Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-13 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/3/13 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
 I run http://cat-v.org on xen, and even really long pages like
 http://ninetimes.cat-v.org take a couple of seconds to load.

 Something was wrong with suckless.org, sometimes a small page could
 take ten seconds, it is better now but still on the slow side of
 things.

I guess you use ipv6?

Kind regards,
--Anselm



Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-13 Thread Uriel
Nope.

uriel

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/3/13 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
 I run http://cat-v.org on xen, and even really long pages like
 http://ninetimes.cat-v.org take a couple of seconds to load.

 Something was wrong with suckless.org, sometimes a small page could
 take ten seconds, it is better now but still on the slow side of
 things.

 I guess you use ipv6?

 Kind regards,
 --Anselm





Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-13 Thread hiro
Me neither.

Here with opera I see that it will only be fast if it has already
resolved the host name. After clearing the cache every single
subdomain of suckless.org takes several seconds to load up at the
first time, whereas cat-v.org will always show up instantly.
I have no idea how to debug this, but perhaps someone can reproduce?

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nope.

 uriel

 On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/3/13 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
 I run http://cat-v.org on xen, and even really long pages like
 http://ninetimes.cat-v.org take a couple of seconds to load.

 Something was wrong with suckless.org, sometimes a small page could
 take ten seconds, it is better now but still on the slow side of
 things.

 I guess you use ipv6?

 Kind regards,
 --Anselm







Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-13 Thread miles
Firefox has an excellent plug-in called firebug.  Anyone on this list that has 
done any sort of web dev is familiar with it I'm sure.  The net tab will tell 
you how fast things are being served.  It wouldn't hurt to post some 
quantitative results.

That being said, here in the midwest of the United States, I have noticed no 
slow down at all.


miles

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Me neither.

Here with opera I see that it will only be fast if it has already
resolved the host name. After clearing the cache every single
subdomain of suckless.org takes several seconds to load up at the
first time, whereas cat-v.org will always show up instantly.
I have no idea how to debug this, but perhaps someone can reproduce?

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nope.

 uriel

 On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/3/13 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
 I run http://cat-v.org on xen, and even really long pages like
 http://ninetimes.cat-v.org take a couple of seconds to load.

 Something was wrong with suckless.org, sometimes a small page could
 take ten seconds, it is better now but still on the slow side of
 things.

 I guess you use ipv6?

 Kind regards,
 --Anselm








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Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-11 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:59:05AM +0100, Uriel wrote:
 Good point, probably the werc stylesheet should be split and
 reorganized to avoid this kind of issues, I will think about it.
 
 Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable, and
 i'm sure that is not werc's fault because http://cat-v.org and many
 other werc sites are quite fast.

Do you use ipv6? It's also a bit slow for me, because I use an ipv6 tunnel from
Hurricane Electric. But that's ok.
 
 uriel

Regards,
Matthias-Christian

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:31 AM, twfb twf...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  suckless.org currently links to two stylesheets /pub/style/style.css and
  /_werc/pub/style.css both are active for media screen. The former
  stylesheet (/pub) uses among other things orange background for the
  midHeader class. This results in a split-second display of a different
  colour scheme (werc default?) as the stylesheets load.
 
  Posting to d...@suckless as w...@suckless was subscriber only.
 
  Regards
  --
  TWFB  -  PGP: D7A420B3
 
 
 



Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-11 Thread pmarin
Why have you change to werc?

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/3/10 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
 Good point, probably the werc stylesheet should be split and
 reorganized to avoid this kind of issues, I will think about it.

 Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable, and
 i'm sure that is not werc's fault because http://cat-v.org and many
 other werc sites are quite fast.

 If it's slow it's definately werc or p9p, because even the old UML
 static web server (now sandbox.suckless.org) was fast enough for
 static pages that nobody complained ;)

 But I don't think that www.suckless.org is too slow.

 Kind regards,
 --Anselm





Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-11 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/3/11 pmarin pacog...@gmail.com:
 Why have you change to werc?

The main reason is I'm not very keen on maintaining a web framework
and Uriel spend his last year on this and I think his werc is very
good.

Kind regards,
--Anselm



Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-11 Thread twfb
On 00:59 Wed 11 Mar , Uriel wrote:
 Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable

Slight exaggeration perhaps... but it is a little bit slow and was
indeed slow even before the switch to werc. Nothing dramatic but
noticable slow for such a low graphic website.

-- 
TWFB  -  PGP: D7A420B3



Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-11 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/3/11 twfb twf...@googlemail.com:
 On 00:59 Wed 11 Mar     , Uriel wrote:
 Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable

 Slight exaggeration perhaps... but it is a little bit slow and was
 indeed slow even before the switch to werc. Nothing dramatic but
 noticable slow for such a low graphic website.

Don't expect too much from a xen instance. But it's more friendly to
the environment than having a full blown dedicated server idling most
of the time ;)

Kind regards,
--Anselm



Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-11 Thread hiro
On 3/11/09, twfb twf...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 00:59 Wed 11 Mar , Uriel wrote:
  Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable

 Slight exaggeration perhaps... but it is a little bit slow and was
 indeed slow even before the switch to werc. Nothing dramatic but
 noticable slow for such a low graphic website.

 --
 TWFB  -  PGP: D7A420B3



I experienced up to 10 seconds to connect, but now everything is ok again here.
Could be that there have been some temporary dns issues.



Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-10 Thread Uriel
Good point, probably the werc stylesheet should be split and
reorganized to avoid this kind of issues, I will think about it.

Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable, and
i'm sure that is not werc's fault because http://cat-v.org and many
other werc sites are quite fast.

uriel

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:31 AM, twfb twf...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Greetings,

 suckless.org currently links to two stylesheets /pub/style/style.css and
 /_werc/pub/style.css both are active for media screen. The former
 stylesheet (/pub) uses among other things orange background for the
 midHeader class. This results in a split-second display of a different
 colour scheme (werc default?) as the stylesheets load.

 Posting to d...@suckless as w...@suckless was subscriber only.

 Regards
 --
 TWFB  -  PGP: D7A420B3





Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch

2009-03-10 Thread Jeremy Jay
It's not that slow to me... although it could definitely use some
caching to keep from reloading the stylesheets every time.
(Last-Modified header etc)

Jeremy

On Wed 11 Mar 2009 - 12:59AM, Uriel wrote:
 Good point, probably the werc stylesheet should be split and
 reorganized to avoid this kind of issues, I will think about it.
 
 Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable, and
 i'm sure that is not werc's fault because http://cat-v.org and many
 other werc sites are quite fast.
 
 uriel
 
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:31 AM, twfb twf...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  suckless.org currently links to two stylesheets /pub/style/style.css and
  /_werc/pub/style.css both are active for media screen. The former
  stylesheet (/pub) uses among other things orange background for the
  midHeader class. This results in a split-second display of a different
  colour scheme (werc default?) as the stylesheets load.
 
  Posting to d...@suckless as w...@suckless was subscriber only.
 
  Regards
  --
  TWFB ??- ??PGP: D7A420B3