Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
2009/3/13 Uriel urie...@gmail.com: I run http://cat-v.org on xen, and even really long pages like http://ninetimes.cat-v.org take a couple of seconds to load. Something was wrong with suckless.org, sometimes a small page could take ten seconds, it is better now but still on the slow side of things. I guess you use ipv6? Kind regards, --Anselm
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
Nope. uriel On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/13 Uriel urie...@gmail.com: I run http://cat-v.org on xen, and even really long pages like http://ninetimes.cat-v.org take a couple of seconds to load. Something was wrong with suckless.org, sometimes a small page could take ten seconds, it is better now but still on the slow side of things. I guess you use ipv6? Kind regards, --Anselm
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
Me neither. Here with opera I see that it will only be fast if it has already resolved the host name. After clearing the cache every single subdomain of suckless.org takes several seconds to load up at the first time, whereas cat-v.org will always show up instantly. I have no idea how to debug this, but perhaps someone can reproduce? On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: Nope. uriel On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/13 Uriel urie...@gmail.com: I run http://cat-v.org on xen, and even really long pages like http://ninetimes.cat-v.org take a couple of seconds to load. Something was wrong with suckless.org, sometimes a small page could take ten seconds, it is better now but still on the slow side of things. I guess you use ipv6? Kind regards, --Anselm
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
Firefox has an excellent plug-in called firebug. Anyone on this list that has done any sort of web dev is familiar with it I'm sure. The net tab will tell you how fast things are being served. It wouldn't hurt to post some quantitative results. That being said, here in the midwest of the United States, I have noticed no slow down at all. miles --Original Message-- From: hiro To: dwm mail list ReplyTo: dwm mail list Subject: Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch Sent: Mar 13, 2009 07:06 Me neither. Here with opera I see that it will only be fast if it has already resolved the host name. After clearing the cache every single subdomain of suckless.org takes several seconds to load up at the first time, whereas cat-v.org will always show up instantly. I have no idea how to debug this, but perhaps someone can reproduce? On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: Nope. uriel On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/13 Uriel urie...@gmail.com: I run http://cat-v.org on xen, and even really long pages like http://ninetimes.cat-v.org take a couple of seconds to load. Something was wrong with suckless.org, sometimes a small page could take ten seconds, it is better now but still on the slow side of things. I guess you use ipv6? Kind regards, --Anselm Sent from my BlackBerry
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:59:05AM +0100, Uriel wrote: Good point, probably the werc stylesheet should be split and reorganized to avoid this kind of issues, I will think about it. Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable, and i'm sure that is not werc's fault because http://cat-v.org and many other werc sites are quite fast. Do you use ipv6? It's also a bit slow for me, because I use an ipv6 tunnel from Hurricane Electric. But that's ok. uriel Regards, Matthias-Christian On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:31 AM, twfb twf...@googlemail.com wrote: Greetings, suckless.org currently links to two stylesheets /pub/style/style.css and /_werc/pub/style.css both are active for media screen. The former stylesheet (/pub) uses among other things orange background for the midHeader class. This results in a split-second display of a different colour scheme (werc default?) as the stylesheets load. Posting to d...@suckless as w...@suckless was subscriber only. Regards -- TWFB - PGP: D7A420B3
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
Why have you change to werc? On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/10 Uriel urie...@gmail.com: Good point, probably the werc stylesheet should be split and reorganized to avoid this kind of issues, I will think about it. Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable, and i'm sure that is not werc's fault because http://cat-v.org and many other werc sites are quite fast. If it's slow it's definately werc or p9p, because even the old UML static web server (now sandbox.suckless.org) was fast enough for static pages that nobody complained ;) But I don't think that www.suckless.org is too slow. Kind regards, --Anselm
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
2009/3/11 pmarin pacog...@gmail.com: Why have you change to werc? The main reason is I'm not very keen on maintaining a web framework and Uriel spend his last year on this and I think his werc is very good. Kind regards, --Anselm
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
On 00:59 Wed 11 Mar , Uriel wrote: Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable Slight exaggeration perhaps... but it is a little bit slow and was indeed slow even before the switch to werc. Nothing dramatic but noticable slow for such a low graphic website. -- TWFB - PGP: D7A420B3
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
2009/3/11 twfb twf...@googlemail.com: On 00:59 Wed 11 Mar , Uriel wrote: Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable Slight exaggeration perhaps... but it is a little bit slow and was indeed slow even before the switch to werc. Nothing dramatic but noticable slow for such a low graphic website. Don't expect too much from a xen instance. But it's more friendly to the environment than having a full blown dedicated server idling most of the time ;) Kind regards, --Anselm
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
On 3/11/09, twfb twf...@googlemail.com wrote: On 00:59 Wed 11 Mar , Uriel wrote: Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable Slight exaggeration perhaps... but it is a little bit slow and was indeed slow even before the switch to werc. Nothing dramatic but noticable slow for such a low graphic website. -- TWFB - PGP: D7A420B3 I experienced up to 10 seconds to connect, but now everything is ok again here. Could be that there have been some temporary dns issues.
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
Good point, probably the werc stylesheet should be split and reorganized to avoid this kind of issues, I will think about it. Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable, and i'm sure that is not werc's fault because http://cat-v.org and many other werc sites are quite fast. uriel On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:31 AM, twfb twf...@googlemail.com wrote: Greetings, suckless.org currently links to two stylesheets /pub/style/style.css and /_werc/pub/style.css both are active for media screen. The former stylesheet (/pub) uses among other things orange background for the midHeader class. This results in a split-second display of a different colour scheme (werc default?) as the stylesheets load. Posting to d...@suckless as w...@suckless was subscriber only. Regards -- TWFB - PGP: D7A420B3
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
It's not that slow to me... although it could definitely use some caching to keep from reloading the stylesheets every time. (Last-Modified header etc) Jeremy On Wed 11 Mar 2009 - 12:59AM, Uriel wrote: Good point, probably the werc stylesheet should be split and reorganized to avoid this kind of issues, I will think about it. Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable, and i'm sure that is not werc's fault because http://cat-v.org and many other werc sites are quite fast. uriel On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:31 AM, twfb twf...@googlemail.com wrote: Greetings, suckless.org currently links to two stylesheets /pub/style/style.css and /_werc/pub/style.css both are active for media screen. The former stylesheet (/pub) uses among other things orange background for the midHeader class. This results in a split-second display of a different colour scheme (werc default?) as the stylesheets load. Posting to d...@suckless as w...@suckless was subscriber only. Regards -- TWFB ??- ??PGP: D7A420B3