Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 04:30:24PM +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Clemmensen_ wrote: Maybe the gnome-settings-daemon (which is also exexuted in my .xinitrc) owerwrites this? It does seem pretty likely that Gnome messes with it. Yes. I can confirm that this was the case, I don't know why I did'nt try this in the first place. Now I just have to find out how to make the gnome-settings-daemon to load my .xmodmap. I remember a dialog asking about this the first login when I first created ~/.xmodmap but I turned it down. Sincerely, - Asbjørn Regards, KSV
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 09:52:54AM +0200, Kalle Svensson wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 08:37:23AM +0200, markus schnalke wrote: tutorial for X (uses `xmodmap' which is in package xbase-clients on Debian systems) in the .xinitrc: /usr/bin/xmodmap $HOME/.xmodmaprc in .xmodmaprc ! have CAPS_LOCK as second ESC remove Lock = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Escape This does, for some reason, not work for me. When the X session starts the xmodmap rules have not been applied, though when manually executed they work fine. I was experiencing a similar problem. Showed up that when using setxkbmap to change keyboard layout, all xmodmap settings were removed. As I use xbindkeys to launch setxkbmap, I just added ; xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc after setxkbmap. Maybe the gnome-settings-daemon (which is also exexuted in my .xinitrc) owerwrites this? It does seem pretty likely that Gnome messes with it. Regards, KSV Sincerely, - Asbjørn
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 08:37:23AM +0200, markus schnalke wrote: tutorial for X (uses `xmodmap' which is in package xbase-clients on Debian systems) in the .xinitrc: /usr/bin/xmodmap $HOME/.xmodmaprc in .xmodmaprc ! have CAPS_LOCK as second ESC remove Lock = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Escape This does, for some reason, not work for me. When the X session starts the xmodmap rules have not been applied, though when manually executed they work fine. Maybe the gnome-settings-daemon (which is also exexuted in my .xinitrc) owerwrites this? Regards, KSV
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
Antoni Grzymala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Sander dixit (2008-04-24, 01:27): Which, in my case, is mapped to the control-key so you're probably an emacs user ;-9 vi friends would map escape to caps lock instead ... however, you'll increase your working speed (if you dont work on foreign computers too often) tutorial for X (uses `xmodmap' which is in package xbase-clients on Debian systems) in the .xinitrc: /usr/bin/xmodmap $HOME/.xmodmaprc in .xmodmaprc ! have CAPS_LOCK as second ESC remove Lock = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Escape meillo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
markus schnalke dixit (2008-04-24, 08:37): Antoni Grzymala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Sander dixit (2008-04-24, 01:27): Which, in my case, is mapped to the control-key so you're probably an emacs user ;-9 vi friends would map escape to caps lock instead Nah. I'm a rather dedicated vim user (though I think emacs could have its uses too if I learned it well. I'm interested in getting to know some Lisp-related stuff deeper). Instead of pressing the Esc-key I press ^[ or ^c in Vim. The latter is not exactly the same as Esc, but both are usually sufficient to get out of insert mode for most editing situations and obviously far more comfortable than reaching for Esc-key. ... however, you'll increase your working speed (if you dont work on foreign computers too often) I still need a comfortable ctrl-key for commandline editing and such, and such placement had also been a standard on my way-back workstations. tutorial for X (uses `xmodmap' which is in package xbase-clients on Debian systems) in the .xinitrc: /usr/bin/xmodmap $HOME/.xmodmaprc in .xmodmaprc ! have CAPS_LOCK as second ESC remove Lock = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Escape Here's my .Xmodmaprc; it's being used by my Xsession scripts automatically OOTB: keycode 66 = Control_L clear Lock add Control = Control_L keycode 117 = ISO_Level3_Shift As a bonus it clears the useless right-hand windows key (contextual menu key) and turns it into a secondary r-alt. A blessing for vim. Best, -- [a] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:43:05PM +0200, Antoni Grzymala wrote: markus schnalke dixit (2008-04-24, 08:37): Antoni Grzymala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Sander dixit (2008-04-24, 01:27): Which, in my case, is mapped to the control-key Wrong quoting, I didn't write that. Caps is OF COURSE mapped to Esc. vim for teh win! in the .xinitrc: /usr/bin/xmodmap $HOME/.xmodmaprc in .xmodmaprc ! have CAPS_LOCK as second ESC remove Lock = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Escape This did not work for me all the time, however, this: clear Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Escape did. Here's my .Xmodmaprc; it's being used by my Xsession scripts automatically OOTB: keycode 66 = Control_L clear Lock For mapping ctrl to caps you don't need xmodmap, Option XkbOptions ctrl:nocaps in xorg.conf is enough. Of course you need root access for that.. cheers Martin
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
On (23/04/08 14:18), pancake wrote: To: dwm@suckless.org From: pancake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings Reply-To: dynamic window manager dwm@suckless.org List-Id: dynamic window manager dwm.suckless.org Recently I tried wmii (for a few minutes :P) and notice that if I press bloq.mayus I was able to use alt-1, alt-2 to change between the tabs in firefox. This makes me think that we can probably take the same idea for dwm to make it ignore the keybindings. Maybe we can also let configurable this bloq. key in config.h and use any other locked key for this. --pancake I prefer to use Mod4 (win key) as MODKEY, so I have no keybinding clash. -- Premysl Anydot Hruby, http://www.redrum.cz/
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
Premysl Hruby dixit (2008-04-23, 14:27): Maybe we can also let configurable this bloq. key in config.h and use any other locked key for this. I prefer to use Mod4 (win key) as MODKEY, so I have no keybinding clash. Agreed, mod4 is far more comfortable. Which brings another question to mind on a related topic: Is it possible to prevent applications to receive dwm-specific keystrokes upon focusing them? My particular problem is that I often work on remote Windows machines via rdesktop and when I switch my view to the tag with the rdesktop client, the client (and subsequently the windows machine) receives the already-pressed win-key event (I use mod4 to switch tags) and opens up the windows start menu which is very annoying. So it it possible to prevent passing pressed dwm-function keys to applications? Regards, -- [a] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
This is one of these bug-features. It should be fixed in rdesktop. not in dwm. 2008/4/23, Antoni Grzymala [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Premysl Hruby dixit (2008-04-23, 14:27): Maybe we can also let configurable this bloq. key in config.h and use any other locked key for this. I prefer to use Mod4 (win key) as MODKEY, so I have no keybinding clash. Agreed, mod4 is far more comfortable. Which brings another question to mind on a related topic: Is it possible to prevent applications to receive dwm-specific keystrokes upon focusing them? My particular problem is that I often work on remote Windows machines via rdesktop and when I switch my view to the tag with the rdesktop client, the client (and subsequently the windows machine) receives the already-pressed win-key event (I use mod4 to switch tags) and opens up the windows start menu which is very annoying. So it it possible to prevent passing pressed dwm-function keys to applications? Regards, -- [a] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkgPOOMACgkQL69KEesxVYNm4gCfc8sV/DoWAOfGbYHharDCqWUV wEkAoJ5sv7Z9+N0bxin3RD9D3Qjt3245 =mMU/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://www.gnuffy.org - Real Community Distro http://www.gnuffy.org/index.php/GnuEm - Gnuffy on Ipaq (Codename Peggy)
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
Enno Gottox Boland dixit (2008-04-23, 15:35): Which brings another question to mind on a related topic: Is it possible to prevent applications to receive dwm-specific keystrokes upon focusing them? My particular problem is that I often work on remote Windows machines via rdesktop and when I switch my view to the tag with the rdesktop client, the client (and subsequently the windows machine) receives the already-pressed win-key event (I use mod4 to switch tags) and opens up the windows start menu which is very annoying. So it it possible to prevent passing pressed dwm-function keys to applications? This is one of these bug-features. It should be fixed in rdesktop. not in dwm. What do you mean by „this is a feature”? I can't imagine a single situation where I'd like my dwm-specific keystrokes to be received by apps. The whole point of wm shortcuts is application non-interference. Best, -- [a] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
Enno Gottox Boland dixit (2008-04-23, 16:27): think of alt+tab. btw. There's a switch to prevent rdesktop from grabbing keys: -K Do not override window manager key bindings. By default rdesktop attempts to grab all keyboard input when it is in focus. I know the -K flag. I use it and it doesn't fix the issue I'm having. When I switch to the tag with rdesktop it sees that win-key is still pressed and accordingly remote windows opens up the start menu. I don't know much about X11 programming, but isn't there an option to make a keypress private once the keypress is used up by dwm? As to alt-tab, or whatever alternative people are using, I still don't see any use in feeding this shortcut to an application after having been used by dwm for whatever purpose. Best, -- [a] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:25:55PM +0200, Antoni Grzymala wrote: Premysl Hruby dixit (2008-04-23, 14:27): I prefer to use Mod4 (win key) as MODKEY, so I have no keybinding clash. Agreed, mod4 is far more comfortable. Not when you have a vintage IBM Model M Keyboard. No Mod4 in sight, still one of the best keyboards around. I like pancake's idea (but I don't have a clue what bloq.mayus is). Martin
Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings
Martin Sander dixit (2008-04-24, 01:27): I like pancake's idea (but I don't have a clue what bloq.mayus is). Caps lock. Which, in my case, is mapped to the control-key, as caps-lock is a key I used probably about three times in my life, everytime by accident. Always made me wonder, why such an utterly useless key has been given such a prominent place on modern PC keyboards. Seems someone anticipated its use in dwm. Not when you have a vintage IBM Model M Keyboard. No Mod4 in sight, still one of the best keyboards around. Just had an idea: make caps lock your control key the old-skool-way, and your ex-control key your mod4. There. A solution. Everyone's happy. Best, -- [a] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
