Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings

2005-07-18 Thread Norm Gertz
Remember.condensation from the extreme changes in temperature also 
creates water.


73   Norm   K1AA]


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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings


I don't know why, but single, double, and triple wraps don't 
matter--mosture still gets in.


Last week I took a 4 element 2m yagi off a 40' tower and when I tilted the 
boom (maybe 40 long) water came pouring out of the end.


This in the Arizona desert in a location that has not seen rain in 6 
months.


de Paul, W8AEF in Phoenix, AZ.


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[DX-CHAT] one more no buro manager

2005-07-18 Thread Art RX9TX
 Hello ,

 I  have no access to a buro so you will need to send direct.. as
 postage  costs are getting worse you will require 2 ircs or $4usd or
 $4euro for postage for the package. Address is below.
  
 That's  what I have lately got in reply to my e-mail request for buro
 QSL.  Since  there is 2 USD step, as I see, who will be the first one
 requesting 6 dollars or 6 Euros for a confirmation? Is the postage in
 Australia THAT expensive? And does VK-buro work THAT bad?

 Conclusion: LoTW rules.

-- 
 73...Art RX9TX  18-Jul-05 13:22 UTC


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RE: [DX-CHAT] one more no buro manager

2005-07-18 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Art, 

  I  have no access to a buro so you will need to send direct.. as
  postage  costs are getting worse you will require 2 ircs or $4usd or
  $4euro for postage for the package. Address is below.
   
  That's  what I have lately got in reply to my e-mail request for buro
  QSL.  Since  there is 2 USD step, as I see, who will be the first one
  requesting 6 dollars or 6 Euros for a confirmation? Is the postage in
  Australia THAT expensive? And does VK-buro work THAT bad?

Whoever sent you this should be reported to ARRL as being unsportsman- 
like.  Looking at the Australian Post Office web site reveals that the 
tariff for international air mail (letter to 50 g) to most of the world 
is 1.80$ (AUD).  Looking at www.oanda.com, the current conversion rate 
between the USD and AUD is 1.336 ... thus the cost is about $1.35 US to 
mail three or four cards from Australia to anyplace in the world (one 
IRC or two GS should be sufficient).  

As to the bureau ... in much of the world, those who are not members of 
the national society do not have access to the bureau.  Quite frankly, 
as slow as it may be, every QSL manager should still be required to be 
a member of his/her national society and respond to bureau cards (even 
if it takes a couple years) ... particularly with demands like this! 

  Conclusion: LoTW rules.
 
Absolutely!  Of course, there are the managers/expeditions that are not 
putting QSOs on LotW until they receive the card (even though their logs

have been available for the on-line searches since day one!  That also 
runs counter to the spirit of LotW.  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV (ex K4IK) 
 

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RE: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs

2005-07-18 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Charlie, 

 I think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS 
 freely if he wants a card back.  Can we be so cheap otherwise?  
 No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, believe me.
 
 If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of 
 modest means; then decide.  73

I doubt that anyone is going to complain about a little bit 
extra to help out needy hams in the most underdeveloped 
countries.  However, this thread started because a VK manager 
refuses to handle bureau cards and is asking for a $2 premium 
above the $2 (actually $1.35 US at current exchange rates) is 
actually costs to return a card.  

For managers in Europe, VK/ZL, the USA, VE ... even some of 
the leading developing nations of South America to behave 
that way is unacceptable.  Not every DX-er is made of money 
- many even in the USA are retired and on fixed incomes.  
The round trip cost of a traditional QSL (card, two envelopes, 
postage, two green stamps) is more than $3.00 and that's not 
a throw away for some.  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV (ex K4IK) 
 

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[DX-CHAT] QSL costs

2005-07-18 Thread Charles Harpole
I am disappointed to hear that any USA ham would not want to be generous 
with DX QSLing.  A can of sugar water soda out of the vending machine is now 
a US dollar.  We gotta get away from the old ideas that somehow we are owed 
a QSL card and want to send the minimum or less to help get one.  I think 
any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS freely if he wants a card 
back.  Can we be so cheap otherwise?  No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, 
believe me.


If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means;  
then decide.  73


Charles Harpole
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Re: [DX-CHAT] one more no buro manager

2005-07-18 Thread Tom Wylie

If you read the back side of an IRC it clearly states:

THIS COUPON IS EXCHANGABLE IN ANY COUNTRY OF THE UNIVERSAL POSTAL UNIONFOR 
THE MINIMUM POSTAGE FOR AN UNREGISTWERED PRIORITY ITEM OR AN UNREGISTERED 
LETTER SENT BY AIR TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY


Therefore 1 IRC should suffice for an air mail envelope and a QSL card. 
Any more is robbery without violence!!


Tom
GM4FDM
(QSL Manager)
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To: 'Art RX9TX' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] one more no buro manager



Art,


 I  have no access to a buro so you will need to send direct.. as
 postage  costs are getting worse you will require 2 ircs or $4usd or
 $4euro for postage for the package. Address is below.

 That's  what I have lately got in reply to my e-mail request for buro
 QSL.  Since  there is 2 USD step, as I see, who will be the first one
 requesting 6 dollars or 6 Euros for a confirmation? Is the postage in
 Australia THAT expensive? And does VK-buro work THAT bad?


Whoever sent you this should be reported to ARRL as being unsportsman-
like.  Looking at the Australian Post Office web site reveals that the
tariff for international air mail (letter to 50 g) to most of the world
is 1.80$ (AUD).  Looking at www.oanda.com, the current conversion rate
between the USD and AUD is 1.336 ... thus the cost is about $1.35 US to
mail three or four cards from Australia to anyplace in the world (one
IRC or two GS should be sufficient).

As to the bureau ... in much of the world, those who are not members of
the national society do not have access to the bureau.  Quite frankly,
as slow as it may be, every QSL manager should still be required to be
a member of his/her national society and respond to bureau cards (even
if it takes a couple years) ... particularly with demands like this!


 Conclusion: LoTW rules.


Absolutely!  Of course, there are the managers/expeditions that are not
putting QSOs on LotW until they receive the card (even though their logs

have been available for the on-line searches since day one!  That also
runs counter to the spirit of LotW.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV (ex K4IK)


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Re: [personal] [DX-CHAT] QSL costs

2005-07-18 Thread KIR
I disagree. First, some people have tried to get rich at ham radio. How 
successful they were is debatable, but certainly no one would argue that 
none have tried. Second, In trying to walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest 
means I believe I would be content and happy to send out thousands of QSL 
cards so long as I zeroed out the cost of making the cards and return 
postage. I say this as a US op of modest means. To me, and I'm sure to many 
other hams QSLing is a pleasurable and integral part of ham radio. Those who 
consider it a chore and send a card only if they receive more than the cost 
of sending one should be scorned. lastly, some old ideas are still viable. 
If I send a card to a DX station with sufficient return postage attached I 
do expect a card in return. This expectation is based on my own set of ham 
radio values instilled in me for over 50 years. Why screw around with 
traditions that have served us well for so long? It's up to the new ops to 
adjust to our hobby's traditions and values not the other way around.


Charles, You're a fine guy but I would not try to shame your fellow hams nor 
try to establish standards based on your own set of values. We are all 
different and entitled to practice our hobby in our own way. What you do is 
your business. Enough said.  73.

Ken
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From: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:03 PM
Subject: [personal] [DX-CHAT] QSL costs


I am disappointed to hear that any USA ham would not want to be generous 
with DX QSLing.  A can of sugar water soda out of the vending machine is 
now a US dollar.  We gotta get away from the old ideas that somehow we are 
owed a QSL card and want to send the minimum or less to help get one.  I 
think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS freely if he wants 
a card back.  Can we be so cheap otherwise?  No one is gonna get rich at 
ham radio, believe me.


If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means; 
then decide.  73


Charles Harpole
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[DX-CHAT] New IRCs for sale

2005-07-18 Thread Charlie, W0YG
I have ten of the NEW IRCs and one of the older (still good) IRCs for sale 
for 14.75 postpaid in the US.  Anybody need this small amount?


All IRCs are properly stamped on the left side!  No rejects in this bunch.

73,

Charlie, W0YG..

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[DX-CHAT] QSL Costs

2005-07-18 Thread Mike Mattes
One of the most irritating things in QSLing is the DX op who complains about 
theft in his country's postal system yet never gets a manager in another 
country with a more secure postal system. One has to wonder if such stations 
aren't DXing for dollars. If they're not, then they should either tell 
stations to 1)not send cards or 2)get a manager as mentioned above.


Mike  W2LO


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Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL Costs

2005-07-18 Thread Russell Kellam Jr

Amen Mike!! Very simple  workable solution. 73 Russ W4UBC
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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:03 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] QSL Costs


One of the most irritating things in QSLing is the DX op who complains 
about theft in his country's postal system yet never gets a manager in 
another country with a more secure postal system. One has to wonder if 
such stations aren't DXing for dollars. If they're not, then they should 
either tell stations to 1)not send cards or 2)get a manager as mentioned 
above.


Mike  W2LO


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[DX-CHAT] QSL costs

2005-07-18 Thread WA2ARS
What about the DX station that requests green stamps to cover the cost of mailing the card and then sends your card via the Buro?

This has happened to me on numerous occassions and probably to just about everyone else.

Mort/WA2ARS

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From: "Charles Harpole" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:03 PM
Subject: [personal] [DX-CHAT] QSL costs


I am disappointed to hear that any USA ham would not want to be generous 
with DX QSLing.  A can of sugar water soda out of the vending machine is 
now a US dollar.  We gotta get away from the old ideas that somehow we are 
owed a QSL card and want to send the minimum or less to help get one.  I 
think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS freely if he wants 
a card back.  Can we be so cheap otherwise?  No one is gonna get rich at 
ham radio, believe me.

 If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means; 
 then decide.  73

 Charles Harpole
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]