Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] VU4/VU3CHE call

2006-04-04 Thread wn3vaw
It would appear that the issuing authorities are using VU4AN as the prefix, as 
opposed to simply VU4.

But what the hey, the important point is that you guys ARE getting the licenses 
and ARE getting proper permission to operate... personally, so long as it's a 
valid license issued by the VU authorities, I don't care WHAT they decide to 
use g!

73


From: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue Apr 04 07:47:16 CDT 2006
To: dx-news@njdxa.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [DX-NEWS] VU4/VU3CHE call

My asssigned Andaman call sign is VU4AN/VU3CHE.

Apparently many ops there will share the VU4AN as part of their call sign.

Hope to hr u all.  73

Charles Harpole  VU3CHE and HS0ZCW
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

2006-04-04 Thread Jerry Keller

Not valid for you?  Or not valid for either you or your unsuspecting QSO
partner as well?

73, Jerry K3BZ

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From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:37 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions



Um, yes, but I do believe that under current DXCC rules, if you are in one
entity and you operate a remote or auxilliary station that's in another, 
the

contacts you make are not valid for DXCC purposes.

73

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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions


On a different slant, I read, recently, in QST that you can set up
some software that will allow remote operation of your own radio from
anywhere in the workd, provided you have access to the internet and
another computer

So, I set this up and what??

the Tango Italy station go ahead

Thank you  This is KF2TI u r 59, name is Steve  over

Tnx Steve this is kp2/kf2ti, I am also 59.  BTW how do i sound over

Kp2/kf2ti, this is kf2ti I sound great over

Rgr me, do i qsl buro or direct

up to you

73 have i hope i have a good operation

Rgr that I am sure I will


On 3 Apr 2006 at 18:13, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote:

Date sent:  Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:13:12 -0700
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
From:   Fred Stevens K2FRD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions


Seems to me if one isn't home to serve as control operator, then the
actual operator would be obligated to use his/her own callsign even if 
it's

the DX operator's gear. I haven't bothered going into the Part 97 Rules to
determine the specifics on this.


I might also have an ethical problem with this, even if this is a 
loophole

in DXCC rules, since it's not really working yourself; rather, it's you
working your own equipment and somebody else.


There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence 
states

that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same time. =-O


It took me several years to make contact with CQ Zone Two from home even

though I have run mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land in Zone Two.


All this said, I *DO* talk to myself a lot these days in my encroaching

old age. :-[


73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS

At 20:37 -0400 03/04/2006, Bill wrote:
What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions.  I have

been told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while
you are on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit. 
Wow,

you can get DXCC and never work a station yourself?  Let someone else use
your station and call and do it for you! Would a DXCC for Hire Person be
in order?


How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over.  According to the rules

this is legal.


See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site.

Bill W4WX

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

2006-04-04 Thread Peter W2IRT
My one wish in this regard is that if they ever re-vamp the DXCC 
rules, some form of credit could go to the operator(s) for the entity 
worked, as a courtesy. I'd hate to miss a once-in-a-lifetime chance 
to travel to a remote entity just because I don't have them on any band.




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Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

2006-04-04 Thread wn3vaw
As I understand the situation (and I could be wrong!), since the control 
operator is not in the same DXCC entity as the remote controlled station, the 
RC station would not be considered acceptable for DXCC purposes.

Therefore, it would not be valid for DXCC for anyone.

Or am I wrong folks?

73

From: Jerry Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue Apr 04 10:10:53 CDT 2006
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

Not valid for you?  Or not valid for either you or your unsuspecting QSO
partner as well?

73, Jerry K3BZ

- Original Message - 
From: Ron Notarius WN3VAW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:37 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions


 Um, yes, but I do believe that under current DXCC rules, if you are in one
 entity and you operate a remote or auxilliary station that's in another, 
 the
 contacts you make are not valid for DXCC purposes.

 73

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of Steve-KF2TI
 Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:00 PM
 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
 Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions


 On a different slant, I read, recently, in QST that you can set up
 some software that will allow remote operation of your own radio from
 anywhere in the workd, provided you have access to the internet and
 another computer

 So, I set this up and what??

 the Tango Italy station go ahead

 Thank you  This is KF2TI u r 59, name is Steve  over

 Tnx Steve this is kp2/kf2ti, I am also 59.  BTW how do i sound over

 Kp2/kf2ti, this is kf2ti I sound great over

 Rgr me, do i qsl buro or direct

 up to you

 73 have i hope i have a good operation

 Rgr that I am sure I will


 On 3 Apr 2006 at 18:13, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote:

 Date sent:  Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:13:12 -0700
 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
 From:   Fred Stevens K2FRD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

 Seems to me if one isn't home to serve as control operator, then the
 actual operator would be obligated to use his/her own callsign even if 
 it's
 the DX operator's gear. I haven't bothered going into the Part 97 Rules to
 determine the specifics on this.

 I might also have an ethical problem with this, even if this is a 
 loophole
 in DXCC rules, since it's not really working yourself; rather, it's you
 working your own equipment and somebody else.

 There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence 
 states
 that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same time. =-O

 It took me several years to make contact with CQ Zone Two from home even
 though I have run mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land in Zone Two.

 All this said, I *DO* talk to myself a lot these days in my encroaching
 old age. :-[

 73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS

 At 20:37 -0400 03/04/2006, Bill wrote:
 What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions.  I have
 been told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while
 you are on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit. 
 Wow,
 you can get DXCC and never work a station yourself?  Let someone else use
 your station and call and do it for you! Would a DXCC for Hire Person be
 in order?
 
 How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over.  According to the rules
 this is legal.
 
 See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site.
 
 Bill W4WX

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[DX-CHAT] HN-31 Heathkit Dummy Load

2006-04-04 Thread jcowens
Is anyone familiar enough with the HN-31 Heathkit Dummy Load (History Lesson)to 
know how much power you can run to this thing in other than key down. I don't 
know if it has transformer oil or Mineral Oil in it. Will it handle 1500W on a 
50% duty cycle for a short time?? Does anyone know where I can buy transformer 
oil, or has OSHA outlawed it by now??

John Owens - N7SEJ

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Re: [DX-CHAT] [TowerTalk] HN-31 Heathkit Dummy Load

2006-04-04 Thread Jack - K4WSB

According to the manual the HN-31 is rated at 1kw.
Duty cycle is 10 minutes using transformer oil  about 2 minutes using 
mineral oil
Check with your local power company.  If you go to the facility that 
handles the transformers you can usually get a fill up at no charge.



At 09:22 AM 4/4/2006 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone familiar enough with the HN-31 Heathkit Dummy Load (History 
Lesson)to know how much power you can run to this thing in other than key 
down. I don't know if it has transformer oil or Mineral Oil in it. Will 
it handle 1500W on a 50% duty cycle for a short time?? Does anyone know 
where I can buy transformer oil, or has OSHA outlawed it by now??


John Owens - N7SEJ


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Re: [DX-CHAT] [TowerTalk] insulating oil (also PCB issues) was Re: HN-31 Heathkit Dummy Load

2006-04-04 Thread Jack - K4WSB

The specs I read where out of the Heath manual...
They offer 2 very different key down times using what they are calling 
transformer oil and mineral oil.


At 11:17 AM 4/4/2006 -0700, Jim Lux wrote:

At 09:22 AM 4/4/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone familiar enough with the HN-31 Heathkit Dummy Load (History
Lesson)to know how much power you can run to this thing in other than key
down. I don't know if it has transformer oil or Mineral Oil in it. Will
it handle 1500W on a 50% duty cycle for a short time?? Does anyone know
where I can buy transformer oil, or has OSHA outlawed it by now??

John Owens - N7SEJ

Transformer oil *is* mineral oil. It's fairly low viscosity, and often has
a small amount of an oxidation inhibitor added so it doesn't spoil.  The
other important thing for this kind of use is that it is (very)dry and
clean.  A very small percentage of dissolved water (well below where you'll
see droplets) greatly reduces the HV breakdown strength. Particulate
contaminants (cloth fibers, in particular) also cause problems with HV
breakdown. This probably isn't an issue for cooling a dummy load.

It's available in 5 gallon pails at most oil jobbers, and should run you
about $4-5/gallon.  Shell Diala, Exxonmobil Univolt, etc.

If you know anywhere local that does transformer rebuilding or servicing
(e.g. a small electric utility), they might be able to sell/give you a
gallon (they buy it in 55 gallon drums).

If you can't get real insulating oil in small quantities, you can go to a
feed store and get regular old USP white mineral oil (used as a laxative
for horses/cows/etc.) by the gallon.  It's not guaranteed dry or clean, so
I wouldn't use it for HV insulating.  You also want to get the lowest
viscosity grade (so that thermal forces can make the oil circulate in the 
can).


Certain kinds of hydraulic fluid will also work (NOT brake fluid. You want
the stuff used for cylinders on tractors, etc.).  You want something that's
low viscosity, and with minimal additives.

Tesla coil hobbyists also use straight weight non-detergent motor oil. You
want the cheapest of cheap, with minimal additives.. all those additives
help with lubrication, but cause problems with insulation.


Now, to the OSHA thing...A LONG digression

Some decades back, a class of miraculous HV insulating liquids (askarels)
were developed that was a) nonflammable, b)a good insulator, c)immiscible
with water, d)didn't chemically decompose or oxidize.   They were a
wonderful material for the HV industry: oil fires are a BIG problem
(particularly in an urban environment) and were a big motivator to going to
Gas Insulated Switchgear using SF6, but that raises its own set of
problems. Imagine the effect of a large fault in a piece of oil filled
switchgear. The extreme heating of the arc causes the oil to decompose, and
the evolved gas causes the oil to be sprayed out in a large cloud of
droplets which is ignited by the spark.  Kind of a king-size molotov
cocktail.  So, Askarels were a god-send.  But


These were all in the generic class of PolyChlorinatedBiphenyls (PCBs), and
for the most part are non-toxic and pretty inert, EXCEPT, that there are
inevitable small amounts (ppm,ppb) contaminants of certain other compounds
(dioxins) which ARE toxic.  And, sadly, because they're so darn inert, they
never decompose, so they accumulate and never go away. By the way, toxic
effects occur just because the molecule is there, and it doesn't get
consumed in the process of doing its evil work, so that contaminant can do
its stuff for a long, long time.

So.. big process of getting rid of PCBs (which are contaminated with
dioxins), leading to superfund sites, etc.  Note that if the PCB is sealed
into a metal can (as in a fluorescent light ballast), there's little
likelihood of it ever being released, and even if it did, it's a small
quantity.  The problem comes in with truckload lots of used insulating
fluid being used, for instance, as road oil on dirt roads to keep the dust
down, or with manufacturing facilities draining their (supposedly) inert
stuff into a big pit.  That's when those ppbs and ppms start to add up
(especially because the stuff never degrades and tends to sit down in the
mud in the bottom of the pond/river).

The PCB problem as applied to hams and electrical hobbyists is that that
there's an enormous amount of really old electrical gear around, some
filled with oil, some filled with PCBs, some re-filled with oil after
having had the PCBs drained.  Think of all those pole transformers
scattered around the country, many having been sitting up there since the
1940s and the REA.  Think of all the non-existent records of just what's in
that piece of electrical gear in the salvage yard.  You have no idea
whether that oilfilled widget might have PCBs in it.

Then there is superfund, which creates cradle to grave liability for those
materials. Cradle to grave liability comes from the practice back in the
bad, old days, of hazmat 

[DX-CHAT] HN-31 Cantenna

2006-04-04 Thread nick cominos
Jack is correct on the HN-31 duty cycle and power.  And, I've just 
discovered that the FULL warranty on my HN-31 Cantenna (90 days) expired 
on 10 June 1970.  Isn't that the way of things.

vy 73,
Nick W9UM 

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Just thought you'd like to know

2006-04-04 Thread Peter W2IRT

At 16:00 04/04/06, Steve-KF2TI wrote:


 01:02:03 04/05/06.
 That won't ever happen again


Well, actually it will (only once in our lifetimes, however). It will 
happen for any country outside the United states at the same time of 
day on the 4th of May of this year (d/m/y instead of m/d/y). Both 
will repeat every thousand years :-)





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Re: [DX-CHAT] Just thought you'd like to know

2006-04-04 Thread Bill Barr

Sure it will happen again in 2106, 3006, etc.!  Maybe not in our life time!

Bill N4NX
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Thought you might like to know this--right up there with Y2K


On Wednesday of this week, at two minutes and three seconds after
1:00 in  the morning, the time and date will be

01:02:03 04/05/06.

That won't ever happen again.
You may now return to your normal stuff.***From the files and piles
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