RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo

2007-06-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> Rag, that is doubtful. There are those for whom hating the US 
> is a hobby rather than a matter of principal.  Radical Islam 
> will have to be in control of western Europe before they 
> figure it out, and then it will be too late. Sad.

As has been said before - those who fail to learn from history 
will be condemned to repeat it. 

Those who refuse to actively oppose Radical Islam are just like the 
collaborators and the rest who failed to speak out against Nazism 
and the "final solution" in the 1940's.  If the US had not stepped 
forward when it did, the National Socialist domination of continental 
Europe would have extended from the Urals to the Atlantic and the 
Arctic to the Cape of Good Hope. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
   


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> 
> At 08:01 PM 6/22/2007, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote:
> 
> It would most certainly improve USA's standing in the rest of 
> the world.
> 
> 73  Rag la5he
> 
> Rag, that is doubtful. There are those for whom hating the US 
> is a hobby rather than a matter of principal.  Radical Islam 
> will have to be in control of western Europe before they 
> figure it out, and then it will be too late. Sad.
> 
> 73,
> Mike, W5UC
> 



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RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo

2007-06-22 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN

Keep the volume down on the subject gang, please.  If you wish to
discuss the international political ramifications of whether or not
Guantanamo Bay (the detention center, the base, and/or both), that's you
business, but this is not the place for it.  

I believe the intent of the original post wondered about the base
simply because if the entire installation is closed, obviously the territory
reverts to Cuba and the DXCC entity disappears.  Getting beyond that into
world politics regarding the detention center and all ramifications thereof
-- belong somewhere else, not here.

Thank you for your understanding.

73, ron w3wn
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RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo

2007-06-22 Thread Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)

At 08:01 PM 6/22/2007, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote:

Even if they tore down the detention center it would not affect the original

base.
---


Or is it principle? Probably so; been asleep in front of the tube as 
the Rangers pound my poor stumbling  Astros.


GN
Mike, W5UC



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RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo

2007-06-22 Thread Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)

At 08:01 PM 6/22/2007, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote:

It would most certainly improve USA's standing in the rest of the world.

73  Rag la5he


Rag, that is doubtful. There are those for whom hating the US is a 
hobby rather than a matter of principal.  Radical Islam will have to 
be in control of western Europe before they figure it out, and then 
it will be too late. Sad.


73,
Mike, W5UC




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RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo

2007-06-22 Thread LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad
Even if they tore down the detention center it would not affect the original

base.
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It would most certainly improve USA's standing in the rest of the world.

73  Rag la5he

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RE: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo

2007-06-22 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
I wonder if the news media realizes the difference?  But I think the closure
only affects the detention center; I can't see the military abandoning
Guantanamo Bay & letting control revert back to Cuba anytime soon!

73

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There's some discussion in the news about Gitmo Bay:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/21/guantanamo/index.html

It's hard to tell if they are talking about just closing the detention
center or closing the whole base.  Hopefully the base will remain.

73, Zack W9SZ


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo

2007-06-22 Thread Norm Gertz
The detention center is a new addition to the Guantanamo basecreated for 
the Gulf War detainees.


The main base at Gtmo has a mission of its own..a Navy squadron, Marines 
and other support personnel.


Even if they tore down the detention center it would not affect the original 
base.


73   Norm  K1AA


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There's some discussion in the news about Gitmo Bay:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/21/guantanamo/index.html

It's hard to tell if they are talking about just closing the detention 
center or closing the whole base.  Hopefully the base will remain.


73, Zack W9SZ


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[DX-CHAT] Gitmo

2007-06-22 Thread Zack Widup

There's some discussion in the news about Gitmo Bay:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/21/guantanamo/index.html

It's hard to tell if they are talking about just closing the detention 
center or closing the whole base.  Hopefully the base will remain.


73, Zack W9SZ


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