[DX-CHAT] P5/4L4FN
Did anyone else see the cluster spots on P5/4L4FN yesterday at 2330Z by A5FU and K1TX. What is that all about. I naturally doubt its validity, and does anyone know these spotters and what their motive is?? John Owens - N7TK Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] P5/4L4FN
It takes some time for signals to reach the edge of our solar system and return. Hmmm. :-)) 73, Jay/AF2C At 06:46 PM 2/18/2008 +, you wrote: Did anyone else see the cluster spots on P5/4L4FN yesterday at 2330Z by A5FU and K1TX. What is that all about. I naturally doubt its validity, and does anyone know these spotters and what their motive is?? John Owens - N7TK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1285 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 5:50 AM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] P5/4L4FN
A5FU? Interesting choice of a phony call sign. My guess would be that the practical jokers just wanted to throw a loop out at the assisted ops in the contest. The gullible or tired may have bit on it, but the smarter ops would have known to ignore it. 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:46 PM To: DX-IS Reflector Cc: DX Chat Subject: [DX-CHAT] P5/4L4FN Did anyone else see the cluster spots on P5/4L4FN yesterday at 2330Z by A5FU and K1TX. What is that all about. I naturally doubt its validity, and does anyone know these spotters and what their motive is?? John Owens - N7TK Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] P5
Has anybody heard anything about the P5 operation or is it another bust. Russ W4UBC Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] P5/KA2HTV
It seems the page has been removed, as I can no longer access it. I do wonder how an American would get operating permission in North Korea, given the current political climate. I guess we'll have to see what happens... 73, Scott, N9AA - Original Message - From: K4WSB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] P5/KA2HTV OK, I give up. There is no reference to this operation on the web site. What am I missing? At 07:03 AM 7/29/2005 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.amsatnet.com/p5a.html Jack Hartley K4WSB QCWA - OOTC - ARRL www.ultimatehat.com 10% discount to hams Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] P5/KA2HTV
http://www.amsatnet.com/p5a.html
Re: [DX-CHAT] P5/KA2HTV
OK, I give up. There is no reference to this operation on the web site. What am I missing? At 07:03 AM 7/29/2005 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.amsatnet.com/p5a.html Jack Hartley K4WSB QCWA - OOTC - ARRL www.ultimatehat.com 10% discount to hams Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] P5, 7O and stuff....
Perhaps Ed realised that people wading in with hob-nailed boots may have upset the very delicate situation? Remember that he spent several years carefully persuading the NK military and had spent a lot of time building up relationships. Sometimes when someone without the requisite diplomatic skills wades in, those who have been carefully talked into agreement begin to either lose their nerve (after all, they had stuck their necks out in a land where that's not encouraged) or go back into their entrenched anti stance and follow the rule book. I would imagine that soldiers in a particularly nasty military dictatorship would react this way! I don't know if Ed knew YT1AD and friends from Adam before they visited NK. I'm sure that they're good guys - indeed when I've spoken to Hrane he seems like a nice and knowledgeable chap - but maybe Ed didn't want to take any chances. Maybe they did screw things up for him as he had his permission revoked not long after that? On the subject of Yemen, I worked 7O/OH2YY in May 2002 - and that was accepted by ARRL. Does anyone know what OH2YY did differently to the 7O1YGF gang? Perhaps he knew the right people, both in Yemen and Newington? I believe he was there to work, rather than for a Dxpedition, and since the Arab world works on a basis of you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours (some people call it other things) maybe that made the difference? Perhaps OH2YY knew the right people at ARRL. A few years ago G3VMW and I were planning a trip to Somalia which never happened - when we approached the ARRL to find out what permission would be needed and from whom, they were most obstructive and unhelpful. Because there was (and still is) no central government in Somalia they just didn't seem interested in exploring other possibilities. Interestingly they now give approval to just about anyone who's got a scrap of paper from anyone who calls themselves an authority in Somalia - exactly what they said they wouldn't do for us. How does that differ from the mess described in this thread? Maybe I should have said I was OH2BH - do you think the answers may have been different? As Ron correctly says Hey folks, it's just DX - why are ARRL so anal about all this permission stuff. Weren't 7O1YGF THERE? Wasn't VU4/VU2JPS THERE? Weren't 7O1A THERE? What bloody difference does a scrap of paper from some little power crazed jerk in a peaked cap make? Remember all the rubbish around BS7H? If ARRL want rules, they should obey them in a consistent manner, not pick and choose on the basis of who they know and how they feel that day. If they'd done that, then there wouldn't be this debate. Ah, that's better. Now I've got that off my chest, I'll have a nice Sunday :-) 73 Dave G0OIL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Notarius Sent: 06 March 2005 00:58 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: Mome Z32ZM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] P5 Am I reading this right? Is it now being asserted that P5/4L4FN went into hiding to avoid contact with YT1AD YU7AV when they attempted the aborted P5A operation? And that Ed may have had something to do with the lack of DPRK Military permission to operate P5A? What is this, the X-Files? Aren't we all letting the conspiracy theories get a little out of hand here? It is extremely unfortunate that the P5A operation was scrubbed. Did YT1AD YU7AV get the proverbial shaft after being led down the proverbial primrose path by the DPRK officials and such they were in contact with? Yes! No doubt! But what did Ed have to do with that? Hey folks, it's just DX. Let's crank the paranoia down a notch or three, shall we? 73 - Original Message - From: Mome Z32ZM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NJDXA DXR dx-news@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] P5 HI OC FRED, You touch the main point (and mni others on QAP too). Just to remaind all DX'ers here: YT1AD-Hrane YU7AV-Vojo been in P5 at the time when P5/4L4FN was active. But, ED was not active at all, when this two verry good frends of mine been in his local, He just deseappear so that AD AV was not eable to see him or his permition licence even the antenna was down , (some R7 or R-7000) AD AV , HAVE a radio-amateur licence to operate from P5, but not the military permition to transmit from P5...so, as everybody know this DXPN finished as Touristic-one. Any way, its verry dificult to think about the things like P5/4L4FN vs P5A 7O1YGF vs 7O/OH2YY. which unfortenetely happend Stay Tuned on SIX !!! 73,GLDX!!! de: MOME - Z32ZM http://www.qsl.net/z32zm -- From: Fred Souto Maior [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] KH8ZM Date: Saturday, March 05, 2005 21:35 PM No Tom.
Re: [DX-CHAT] P5, 7O and stuff....
Dave G0OIL wrote: As Ron correctly says Hey folks, it's just DX - why are ARRL so anal about all this permission stuff. Weren't 7O1YGF THERE? Wasn't VU4/VU2JPS THERE? Weren't 7O1A THERE? What bloody difference does a scrap of paper from some little power crazed jerk in a peaked cap make? I remember a statement of the 7O1A crew, that they had at hand a permission of the Aden office of the Ministry of Communcations and that this paper has also been presented at Newington. The permission has been revoked by a guy at the headquarters of the Ministry of Communications in Sanaa weeks after the operation. Btw...that shows, how weak governmental structures are in that kind of countries. In summer '04 the ARRL announced, that for Somalia written permissions are accepted from any recognized authority that is acknowledged to be in control of a particular region. Authority acknowledged by whom? Particular regions of Somalia have declared their autonomy or independence, but as the CIA World Factbook states, these regions are not recognized by any government. I read, that permissions issued by a development aid volunteer from Australia should be valid for 6O (is that really true?). 7O1A was there and during the operation, they apparently had a written permission. 7O1YGF was there, they had no paper. Both have not been accepted. Ed was in P5, he also had no paper. His operation was accepted. Nowadays for 6O a kind of wildcard-solution is used. I agree with Dave: What difference do such scraps of paper make? It is about time for the league to review some of their decisions... Georg, DL5NO Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
