Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings

2005-07-19 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
What about silicone plumber's tape?  If wrapped first with the 
silicone tape, then with the UV electrical tape, would that seal out the water?


- Jim

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RE: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings

2005-07-19 Thread mausoptik
I see no reason why Silicone tape wouldn't work.  Personally I've always
liked the N type connectors as where the threaded connector fits into the
socket itself is sealed by virtue of a rubber sealing ring in the male
connector.  The cable gland itself (a pressure type cable gland) is
waterproof.  Some people regard use of N types connectors for shortwave as a
waste, but personally I much prefer them to those truly awful PL259s. 

If you want to be a tad more QRO, then use 7/16s or C type.  They're all
dirt cheap at fleamarkets and, unlike the solder body PL259s (glorified CB
connectors) it only takes a minute to desolder them and use them again, and
again, and again

Cheers

Dave G0OIL



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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings

What about silicone plumber's tape?  If wrapped first with the 
silicone tape, then with the UV electrical tape, would that seal out the
water?

- Jim

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Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings

2005-07-18 Thread Norm Gertz
Remember.condensation from the extreme changes in temperature also 
creates water.


73   Norm   K1AA]


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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings


I don't know why, but single, double, and triple wraps don't 
matter--mosture still gets in.


Last week I took a 4 element 2m yagi off a 40' tower and when I tilted the 
boom (maybe 40 long) water came pouring out of the end.


This in the Arizona desert in a location that has not seen rain in 6 
months.


de Paul, W8AEF in Phoenix, AZ.


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[DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings

2005-07-17 Thread Charles Harpole
My blood pressure can not take another citation of the advice to wrap your 
coax plugs with any kind of plastic electrical tape for water sealing 
out-doors (again in Aug. QST ant. article by ed).


I have wrapped and unwrapped exterior coax fittings for 47 years, in cold 
weather and hot, wet and dry.  No brand of plastic electric tape will seal 
against water incursion.  I don't know why, but single, double, and triple 
wraps don't matter--mosture still gets in.  And, the worst thing u can do 
with tape is to stretch-pull the last few inches prior to sticking the last 
end down.  The tape will eventually withdraw and become un-stuck for several 
inches, at least.  That matter is made worse if it is stretched to breaking 
as a way of cutting and creating an end of the tape.  And also worse if 
human fingers hold the end, corrupting the sticky material and lowering its 
holding power (but how else u gonna hold it?).  Even Scotch 33 or its brand 
brothers will curl and become brittle in high heat condx in a few years.  
Cold shrinks it.  Tape is just not the solution.


And PLEASE do not follow Cushcraft's old instructions to squirt silicone 
sealant (which they sometimes supply in the new antenna box or with their 
Coax Boots).  I have poured a few drops of water out of exterior coax 
fittings sealed the Cushcraft way  after three years in the air.


How to do it?
1.  Make one wrap of good plastic electrical tape, do not stretch pull it.  
Then, apply Coax-Seal over the tape.  Lightly wet ur fingers if the CoaxSeal 
sticks to fingers.  Mash the stuff all around the fitting.  Do not put tape 
over the CoaxSeal... that will push the Seal around and ruin the seal.  The 
under layer of tape is only for keeping the Coax Seal easy to remove from 
the shiny coax plugs.  I have a junk coax/connector/coax fitting so 
installed lying in the open on a junk pile here in Fla.  Looked like the day 
I installed it 23 years ago.


1A.  Alternative is to use the hugely expensive ($3. ea.) Cushcraft Vinyll 
Coax Boots (part number VB5) and then Coax Seal over those.  These Boots are 
difficult to push down onto RG-8, and trimming the small hole to fit RG-8 is 
very difficult to get exact.  Coax Seal at either end of the Boot is 
necessary.


2.  Alternative is to use some of the shrink fit plastic tubing that has 
heat-activated shrink AND heat-sealing gunk inside.  Very quick install with 
heat gun.  Leave generous overlap.  This stuff is new to me and I have no 
long term tests on it.  Report later.


To a good tight seal.  73

Charles Harpole
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Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings

2005-07-17 Thread paul
I don't know why, but single, double, and triple wraps don't 
matter--mosture still gets in.


Last week I took a 4 element 2m yagi off a 40' tower and when I tilted the 
boom (maybe 40 long) water came pouring out of the end.


This in the Arizona desert in a location that has not seen rain in 6 months.

de Paul, W8AEF in Phoenix, AZ.


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RE: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings

2005-07-17 Thread mausoptik
Self amalgamating tape, covered with several layers of BLACK pvc tape for uv
protection.  Works every time on coax connectors.  I've never had a failure
yet with this stuff, even here in rainy England.  The stuff usually costs
around GBP 5 per roll, though I got some in Germany recently that cost the
grand sum of 99 euro cents!  I think Farnell.com sell it.

Cheers

Dave G0OIL

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 I don't know why, but single, double, and triple wraps don't 
 matter--mosture still gets in.

Last week I took a 4 element 2m yagi off a 40' tower and when I tilted the 
boom (maybe 40 long) water came pouring out of the end.

This in the Arizona desert in a location that has not seen rain in 6 months.

de Paul, W8AEF in Phoenix, AZ.


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