RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S
Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no excuse for transmitting on a DX station's frequency. Its hard to look someone in the eyes and firmly say what you're doing is wrong, and here's why. At least your friend had you to tell him; for all too many ops, there's no one. We reap what we sow... 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WC7N Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 20:11 PM To: DX-CHAT Subject: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S Today I have been setting here in the Ham Shack, reading a book, because I couldn't hear any of the DX but did check frequencies. (Easy to do whey you are retired and an old F...) I was really amazed at the language I was hearing and first put it on the dumbing down of the ham radio license requirements but then remembered recently I was visiting a friend who has been a ham for probably 12-15 years, he was calling a dx station on CW and some body came up on freq and he went critical with the UP UP UP FU FU FU etc. I asked what are you doing. His answer I work hard all day and when I come home and have time to ham I don't have to put up with that s... Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and just no patience when you get home. Rod WC7N Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S
Well, your friend's only been a ham for 12-15 years, so it could still be dumbing down. After all, he is a product of the V.E. licensing system and never had to take a test in front of an F.C.C. examiner and could just memorize the question pool to get his ticket. Unless, of course, your friend is just a jerk. In that case licensing requirements have nothing to do with his problem. Almost everybody works hard all day and most don't behave as you friend did. The real problem is that we don't have any respect for each other anyone. Part of that problem is the feeling by some people that because someone has been licensed for a certain length of time or upgraded at a certain time, that person has less worth than someone licensed before that point. It could be April 15, 2000 or it could be before 1984, when the V.E. system started. Or it could be a myriad of other points in time where some mythical standard was changed, like when the Dick Dash books became available or when the period of time you had to wait before retaking an exam was shortened. It really doesn't matter, because the real problem is the belief that we don't need to respect someone because of how, what kind or when they took a test. The reason we ought to respect someone should be based on what kind of ham they are, not when they got their ticket. As much as it might bother some people, a lot of hams who were licensed or upgraded after 2000 are pretty good hams, despite the fact that they didn't have to pass a 20 WPM CW test. Some are ignorant, but ignorance can be corrected pretty easily- lack of character and maliciousness are more difficult to deal with. 73, Scott, N9AA WC7N wrote: Today I have been setting here in the Ham Shack, reading a book, because I couldn't hear any of the DX but did check frequencies. (Easy to do whey you are retired and an old F...) I was really amazed at the language I was hearing and first put it on the dumbing down of the ham radio license requirements but then remembered recently I was visiting a friend who has been a ham for probably 12-15 years, he was calling a dx station on CW and some body came up on freq and he went critical with the UP UP UP FU FU FU etc. I asked what are you doing. His answer I work hard all day and when I come home and have time to ham I don't have to put up with that s... Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and just no patience when you get home. Rod WC7N Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S
At 20:56 04/20/06, Dave wrote: Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no excuse for transmitting on a DX station's frequency. Its hard to look someone in the eyes and firmly say what you're doing is wrong, and here's why. At least your friend had you to tell him; for all too many ops, there's no one. We reap what we sow... I was just listening to VU4 on 20 SSB as I was reading this thread when this southern-accented brainless wonder just started going apoplectic on the VU4's frequency telling guys off who were tuning up. I swear, I thought the guy was pop an aneurysm or something. The pile was 1about 15 kHz deep and pretty intense. Meanwhile, on 17 SSB and 20 CW two other VU4s were sitting and easy to pop one-call. Sigh. - Peter W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S
Title: Message
I should have been more clear: "Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there
is no excuse for intentionally transmitting on a DX station's
frequency."
Yes, I
have inadvertently missed the split button,despite havingbuilt
softwareto minimize that possibility.
73,
Dave,
AA6YQ
-Original Message-From: N7MAL
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 21:07
PMTo: Dave; 'WC7N'; 'DX-CHAT'Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT]
[dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S
And you're Mr. Perfect never accidentally forgot to push the split
button...
MAL
N7MALBULLHEAD CITY, AZhttp://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htmhttp://geocities.com/n7mal/Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.It's
already tomorrow in Australia
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From:
Dave
To: 'WC7N' ; 'DX-CHAT'
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 0:56
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT]
Gentlemen HAM'S
Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no
excuse fortransmitting on a DX station's frequency.Its hard to
look someone in the eyes and firmly say "what you're doing iswrong, and
here's why". At least your friend had you to tell him; for alltoo many
ops, there's no one. We reap what we
sow...
73, Dave,
AA6YQ-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf OfWC7NSent: Thursday,
April 20, 2006 20:11 PMTo: DX-CHATSubject: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT]
Gentlemen HAM'S Today I have been setting here in the Ham Shack,
reading a book, because I couldn't hear any of the DX but did check
frequencies. (Easy to do whey youare retired and an old
F...) I was really amazed at the language I was hearing and first
put it on the dumbing down of the ham radio license requirements but
then remembered recently I was visiting a friend who has been a ham for
probably 12-15 years, he was calling a dx station on CW and some body
came up on freq and he went critical with the UP UP UP FU FU FU
etc. I asked "what are you doing." His answer "I work hard
all day and when I come home and have time to ham I don't have to put up
with that s..."Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing
down of the license but working hard to support a family, taking too
much sh.. from the boss and just no patience when you get
home.Rod WC7NSubscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ,
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Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, WC7N wrote: Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and just no patience when you get home. Rod WC7N No, I think it's the way the society is going in general. Total absence of Rule of Law, doing it because others are getting away with it. (I wanted to say monkey see monkey do ...) 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
