Re: [DXR] IRC's ... more
As previously stated here, 1 IRC is 'supposed' to be good for one air mail letter in all countries in the Universal Postal Union. I questioned the UPU about Switzerland requiring 2. She confirmed that they do, and it's due to the Swiss interpretation, and the fact they have multiple rates. She also said the UPU was not pleased with their way of doing it, but nothing they can do about it. Also, IRC's never 'expire'. I can't recall the exact wording, but my interpretation of the 'old surface IRC's' is they may be exchanged in the country of origin. The UPU Regulations are on the Web, but in Adobe, and difficult to find a particular subject. They're listed by chapters, and not pages. Takes some time, but you can find the info if you're patient. The UPU Member's may sell IRC's for whatever they wish, but their value is based on a percentage of the "SDR", and I was never able to find a definition of SDR. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DXR] IRC's ... more
Just to be clear..the newest IRCS (left lower box has in French the phrase (facultative)or 'optional'. Thus, an IRC with NO postal stamp is a VALID IRC...the post office does NOT have to mark it in the left box. Marked in the RIGHT box...and it's NO good...unless you have a very helpful postal clerk (thankfully, I do!) Most current IRCS have the word 'airienne' or 'lettre-avion'...or basically good for one AIRMAIL letter. Older ones are surface, but I don't believe they're issued anymore. In the US, the stamps are added to accomodate using the old ircs with the new postage rate. For example, many I get now are $1.05 with an extra 70 cents in postage attached somewhere, which allows the post office to sell them for $1.75. 73 --- Steve Wheatley KU9C PO Box 5953 Parsippany NJ 07054-6953 (yes, the -6953 is correct!) U.S.A. Phone: 973.644.5111 Fax:973.644.5053 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ku9c.com/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DXR] IRC's ... more
That is not correct. If you look at all IRC's today they all say good for Air Mail Service(about 10 years ago and before they were only good for ground service and that was why you need more than 1) .The stamp as far as the US is concerned it too bring old IRC's to the current price. They must be indorsed on the left hand side by the country that issued them. When they are redeemed the right hand side is stamped and then they have no value. If you buy IRC from QSL managers, make sure that they are not cancelled on the right hand side they will not be accepted. de KD1F Emil Tillona [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tom Wylie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "DX-QSL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'DXR list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: [DXR] IRC's ... more > An IRC must be postmarked. Some postal workers may place a stamp on then > post mark it. I have received them both ways. > An IRC is (as far as I know) supposed to be good for a stamp good for > ground service. If you want air service, then you may be required to use > more than 1 IRC. All countries place a different value on the IRC. > They are a commodity and can be traded. When I was a QSL Manager, I would > get IRC's and sell them for less than the value than if purchased from the > USPS. The cost then was $1.00 each and I would sell them for $.60. Buying > an air mail stamp was less expensive (this was a long time ago!). I would > then use the (little) profit towards the cost of QSL's & envelopes. I > managed for 4 guys in highly wanted areas. This enabled them to get on the > air more frequently and hand out 'another new one' for many DX'ers. > During the period I was managing for them each station had over a 75% > request rate. So you can imagine how expensive it is to QSL, especially > for a foreign highly sought after Amateur in a remote area. > > At 06:40 PM 6/27/01 +, Tom Wylie wrote: > >UK bought IRCs - dont have a cost on them so cant be out of date. When they > >put the price up - you just pay the going rate. > > > >I have seen some messages in the past about EU stations bitching about the > >numbers of IRCs it takes to respond to a QSL card. Some, I think, are > >trying to make a fast buck! > > > >My postmaster confirmed that in the Postal Union it should only take 1 IRC > >to post an air mail QSL. Some German stations and others, I have seen, > >have been demanding 2 or more IRCs. I am trying to be careful as to what I > >say because its actually done on weight. 1 x IRC should be OK for 1 QSL > >card but when you exceed the weight restriction you would need more postage > >hence I guess why folk may want more than 1 IRC. But for a single card - > >I'd say that 1 x IRC should be enough - going by the Postal Union Rules. > > > >73 de tom > > Jack Hartley > K4WSB > ARRL - QCWA - OOTC > http://www.ultimatehat.com > 10% discount to fellow Hams > Put your call on the order > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DXR] IRC's ... more
An IRC must be postmarked. Some postal workers may place a stamp on then post mark it. I have received them both ways. An IRC is (as far as I know) supposed to be good for a stamp good for ground service. If you want air service, then you may be required to use more than 1 IRC. All countries place a different value on the IRC. They are a commodity and can be traded. When I was a QSL Manager, I would get IRC's and sell them for less than the value than if purchased from the USPS. The cost then was $1.00 each and I would sell them for $.60. Buying an air mail stamp was less expensive (this was a long time ago!). I would then use the (little) profit towards the cost of QSL's & envelopes. I managed for 4 guys in highly wanted areas. This enabled them to get on the air more frequently and hand out 'another new one' for many DX'ers. During the period I was managing for them each station had over a 75% request rate. So you can imagine how expensive it is to QSL, especially for a foreign highly sought after Amateur in a remote area. At 06:40 PM 6/27/01 +, Tom Wylie wrote: >UK bought IRCs - dont have a cost on them so cant be out of date. When they >put the price up - you just pay the going rate. > >I have seen some messages in the past about EU stations bitching about the >numbers of IRCs it takes to respond to a QSL card. Some, I think, are >trying to make a fast buck! > >My postmaster confirmed that in the Postal Union it should only take 1 IRC >to post an air mail QSL. Some German stations and others, I have seen, >have been demanding 2 or more IRCs. I am trying to be careful as to what I >say because its actually done on weight. 1 x IRC should be OK for 1 QSL >card but when you exceed the weight restriction you would need more postage >hence I guess why folk may want more than 1 IRC. But for a single card - >I'd say that 1 x IRC should be enough - going by the Postal Union Rules. > >73 de tom Jack Hartley K4WSB ARRL - QCWA - OOTC http://www.ultimatehat.com 10% discount to fellow Hams Put your call on the order Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
