[Dx4win] ADIF Export including QSL Status verified
Hello DX4WINner, Reports/DXCC/Listing containes QSL Status verified by ARRL-DXCC as an asterix * beside QSL Status Label(L), Mailed(M), ConfirmedC. But QSL Status verified by ARRL-DXCC (checked) is not included in ADIF Export file. Anyone has modified the DX4Win ADIF Export Filter with QSL Status verified by ARRL-DXCC yet and would share the filter with others, please ? Thank You for response. 73 de Thomas, DL1AMQ __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] ADIF Export including QSL Status verified
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Thomas Herrmann dl1...@web.de wrote: Reports/DXCC/Listing containes QSL Status verified by ARRL-DXCC as an asterix * beside QSL Status Label(L), Mailed(M), ConfirmedC. But QSL Status verified by ARRL-DXCC (checked) is not included in ADIF Export file. Anyone has modified the DX4Win ADIF Export Filter with QSL Status verified by ARRL-DXCC yet and would share the filter with others, please ? Thomas, just remember that there are no ADIF fields defined for this information, see www.adif.org -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] DX4WIN.CTY country file Release #118 - 10 December 2012
The DX4WIN country file, DX4WIN.CTY Release #118 is now available from: http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/ You can read the release notes at: http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/release.shtml You can (and should) use the DX4WIN Data Updater to update the file: http://dx4win.ad1c.us/updater/ This should resolve all the VP2 prefix errors that I created the last time. I also found/fixed some old KV4 callsigns. If you still find errors, please let me know ASAP. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload
The following works for me in determining the interval LOTW takes to process my uploads. I name my uploads based on the date ie LOTW12102012. Then I note the calender for that date then I just wait for a later date to show under find call in LOTW, this gives me the interval for that upload. Ed KG4W - Original Message - From: Dan Violette dank...@socal.rr.com To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload It shows an upload date which corresponds to when it is processed not first uploaded despite the wording. I verified this with my last upload actual date/time versus when new QSL matches hit.. Dan KI6X -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jesse Wall Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:57 AM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload Hugh, After you do an upload, go to Find Call and search your call? This option says it is the callsign's last upload. I haven't tested this myself. I'm waiting until the backlog clears before I do an upload again. 73 and Merry Christmas to all, Jesse, KA8YYZ --- dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: From: dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: DX4WIN Digest, Vol 104, Issue 11 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:00:02 -0500 Send DX4WIN mailing list submissions to dx4win@mailman.qth.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net You can reach the person managing the list at dx4win-ow...@mailman.qth.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of DX4WIN digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: LoTW file upload (ON4AOI) 2. Re: How to find what new countries I worked (David Kozinn, K2DBK) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:25:58 +0100 From: ON4AOI on4...@skynet.be To: 'Hugh Phillips K7XM' jacsh...@mho.com Cc: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload Message-ID: 002401cdd526$084d4e50$18e7eaf0$@be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hugh It only shows up when you have uploaded those files. No trace afterwards, if b4 28/11/2012 you probably need to upload Again due the BUG they fixed late evening on 28 November Guy ON4AOI -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Hugh Phillips K7XM Verzonden: zaterdag 8 december 2012 1:56 Aan: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Onderwerp: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload I have uploaded two TQ8 files to LoTW recently. Shouldn't those show up somewhere even though they have not been processed by LoTW ? I can't seem to find them, unless I'm not looking in the right place Using Dx4Win v8.05... 73 Hugh K7XM __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:44:57 -0500 From: David Kozinn, K2DBK k2...@arrl.net To: Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu Cc: DX4WIN Reflector dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] How to find what new countries I worked Message-ID: 50c36e89.7040...@arrl.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well for me, the clublog feature was exactly what I wanted in this case, but I can see where there might be other variations as well. None of the examples that I can think of (including the one I started this thread with) are must have things, but rather fall into the category of interesting things you can find out. On 12/7/2012 8:08 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:10 PM, David Kozinn, K2DBK k2...@arrl.net wrote: Actually, that is the perfect solution, and one I'd forgotten about. (I've been a member of Club Log for a long, long time.) That actually gives me the exact information that I was looking for. Thanks for mentioning it. This works for all-time new ones, but not, for example, if I want to see if I worked any new countries during CQWW CW for the CQ DX Marathon in 2012. A while back, I wrote a quick-and-dirty program to display the first time a new country was worked, given an ADIF file as input. It was never meant for release, but I could add filtering to it. That way you could export whatever portion of your log you cared about (to ADIF) and run the report against that. But it would be better if Paul could build this into the program. If I recall, KD7P/N7XR's logging program (whose name escapes me at the moment) was able to do this, back in the mid-1990's! - Jim --
Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload
According to the find call button on LOTW they processed my latest upload today 12/10/12 at 12:07pm. I uploaded on 12/02/12 at 9:43am, so it was in the ballpark of the advertised 7 days. Ed KG4W - Original Message - From: Ed Hughes k...@comcast.net To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload The following works for me in determining the interval LOTW takes to process my uploads. I name my uploads based on the date ie LOTW12102012. Then I note the calender for that date then I just wait for a later date to show under find call in LOTW, this gives me the interval for that upload. Ed KG4W - Original Message - From: Dan Violette dank...@socal.rr.com To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload It shows an upload date which corresponds to when it is processed not first uploaded despite the wording. I verified this with my last upload actual date/time versus when new QSL matches hit.. Dan KI6X -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jesse Wall Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:57 AM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload Hugh, After you do an upload, go to Find Call and search your call? This option says it is the callsign's last upload. I haven't tested this myself. I'm waiting until the backlog clears before I do an upload again. 73 and Merry Christmas to all, Jesse, KA8YYZ --- dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: From: dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: DX4WIN Digest, Vol 104, Issue 11 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:00:02 -0500 Send DX4WIN mailing list submissions to dx4win@mailman.qth.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net You can reach the person managing the list at dx4win-ow...@mailman.qth.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of DX4WIN digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: LoTW file upload (ON4AOI) 2. Re: How to find what new countries I worked (David Kozinn, K2DBK) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:25:58 +0100 From: ON4AOI on4...@skynet.be To: 'Hugh Phillips K7XM' jacsh...@mho.com Cc: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload Message-ID: 002401cdd526$084d4e50$18e7eaf0$@be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hugh It only shows up when you have uploaded those files. No trace afterwards, if b4 28/11/2012 you probably need to upload Again due the BUG they fixed late evening on 28 November Guy ON4AOI -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Hugh Phillips K7XM Verzonden: zaterdag 8 december 2012 1:56 Aan: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Onderwerp: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload I have uploaded two TQ8 files to LoTW recently. Shouldn't those show up somewhere even though they have not been processed by LoTW ? I can't seem to find them, unless I'm not looking in the right place Using Dx4Win v8.05... 73 Hugh K7XM __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:44:57 -0500 From: David Kozinn, K2DBK k2...@arrl.net To: Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu Cc: DX4WIN Reflector dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] How to find what new countries I worked Message-ID: 50c36e89.7040...@arrl.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well for me, the clublog feature was exactly what I wanted in this case, but I can see where there might be other variations as well. None of the examples that I can think of (including the one I started this thread with) are must have things, but rather fall into the category of interesting things you can find out. On 12/7/2012 8:08 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:10 PM, David Kozinn, K2DBK k2...@arrl.net wrote: Actually, that is the perfect solution, and one I'd forgotten about. (I've been a member of Club Log for a long, long time.) That actually gives me the exact information that I was looking for. Thanks for mentioning it. This works for all-time new ones, but not, for example, if I want to see if I worked any new countries during CQWW CW for the CQ DX Marathon in 2012. A while back, I wrote a quick-and-dirty program to display the first time a new country was worked, given an ADIF file as input. It was never
Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Agreed - 8 days 14 hours! At the current rate of growth the delay will be 9 days before tomorrow. Here are the latest numbers I have: Upload Time Time Processed Elapsed Time === 2012/11/23 18:002012/11/27 00:433 06:43:34 2012/11/28 22:322012/12/05 02:086 03:35:10 2012/11/29 18:382012/12/06 05:106 10:32:20 2012/11/30 00:582012/12/06 18:246 17:26:26 2012/11/30 17:042012/12/07 17:287 00:24:16 2012/12/01 08:202012/12/08 19:097 10:49:15 2012/12/01 12:302012/12/09 01:107 12:40:49 2012/12/02 05:002012/12/10 19:318 14:31:29 The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page. If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially. The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of growth in the backlog. Based on the processing time for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs. With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)! I know the folks in Newington are saying trust us, but their performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote: Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine... __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
Not sure how current their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed. But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast. Submitted my annual update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49. So some parts are working well *Steve, N3SL* Sioux City, IA CQ4 ITU7 EN12 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Agreed - 8 days 14 hours! At the current rate of growth the delay will be 9 days before tomorrow. Here are the latest numbers I have: Upload Time Time Processed Elapsed Time ==**= 2012/11/23 18:002012/11/27 00:433 06:43:34 2012/11/28 22:322012/12/05 02:086 03:35:10 2012/11/29 18:382012/12/06 05:106 10:32:20 2012/11/30 00:582012/12/06 18:246 17:26:26 2012/11/30 17:042012/12/07 17:287 00:24:16 2012/12/01 08:202012/12/08 19:097 10:49:15 2012/12/01 12:302012/12/09 01:107 12:40:49 2012/12/02 05:002012/12/10 19:318 14:31:29 The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page. If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially. The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of growth in the backlog. Based on the processing time for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs. With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)! I know the folks in Newington are saying trust us, but their performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote: Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine... __**__**__ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/dx4winhttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
Why is LOTW backlog a thread on DX4WIN? Isn't there a LOTW discussion board... 73's Ed , W1ZZ w...@ymail.com From: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... Not sure how current their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed. But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast. Submitted my annual update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49. So some parts are working well *Steve, N3SL* Sioux City, IA CQ4 ITU7 EN12 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Agreed - 8 days 14 hours! At the current rate of growth the delay will be 9 days before tomorrow. Here are the latest numbers I have: Upload Time Time Processed Elapsed Time ==**= 2012/11/23 18:00 2012/11/27 00:43 3 06:43:34 2012/11/28 22:32 2012/12/05 02:08 6 03:35:10 2012/11/29 18:38 2012/12/06 05:10 6 10:32:20 2012/11/30 00:58 2012/12/06 18:24 6 17:26:26 2012/11/30 17:04 2012/12/07 17:28 7 00:24:16 2012/12/01 08:20 2012/12/08 19:09 7 10:49:15 2012/12/01 12:30 2012/12/09 01:10 7 12:40:49 2012/12/02 05:00 2012/12/10 19:31 8 14:31:29 The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page. If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially. The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of growth in the backlog. Based on the processing time for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs. With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)! I know the folks in Newington are saying trust us, but their performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote: Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine... __**__**__ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/dx4winhttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload - Filenames
I used to use a file-naming convention similar to yours, Ed. I'd use L for LOTW and the upload date such as MMDDYY. For today it would be L121012. It's a pretty common way of doing it and I'm sure a lot of folks probably used a similar system. But, then I read that one of the bugs at the ARRL LOTW computer was that if a Log Submission came in with the same name as an earlier one that hadn't been processed yet, the new one would replace the earlier one in queue. So, if my L120112 came in before John Doe's L120112 file, mine would be deleted from being entered into LOTW and I wouldn't know it unless I was closely tracking everything. I might never know if a lot of Q's were missing. Now, I use a file-naming convention that would be highly unlikely used by anyone else. It's possible, but highly unlikely. The ARRL has fixed this bug and all files are now supposedly loaded into LOTW whether they have duplicate names or not. But, I have to wonder about ones I loaded in the past. Did any get deleted due to being duplicated by name with someone else's newer ones? I still have all my .TQ8 files and I could just re-upload them to LOTW. But, that would just add to the massive delays that the LOTW system has been experiencing. So, I won't do it now. I routinely compare all my credits for DXCC with what I have in DX4WIN to make sure they match. But, it gets very tedious for other Awards and impossibly tedious for WPX. Maybe I'll just do a spot-check to see if any problems show up. Makes you wonder how long the duplicate filename problem existed before anyone finally realized it and the LOTW Software Gurus corrected it. GL/73/MXHNY, Bob K8BL From: Ed Hughes k...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 11:02 AM The following works for me in determining the interval LOTW takes to process my uploads. I name my uploads based on the date ie LOTW12102012. Then I note the calender for that date then I just wait for a later date to show under find call in LOTW, this gives me the interval for that upload. Ed KG4W - Original Message - From: Dan Violette dank...@socal.rr.com To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload It shows an upload date which corresponds to when it is processed not first uploaded despite the wording. I verified this with my last upload actual date/time versus when new QSL matches hit.. Dan KI6X -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jesse Wall Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:57 AM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload Hugh, After you do an upload, go to Find Call and search your call? This option says it is the callsign's last upload. I haven't tested this myself. I'm waiting until the backlog clears before I do an upload again. 73 and Merry Christmas to all, Jesse, KA8YYZ --- dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: From: dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: DX4WIN Digest, Vol 104, Issue 11 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:00:02 -0500 -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:25:58 +0100 From: ON4AOI on4...@skynet.be To: 'Hugh Phillips K7XM' jacsh...@mho.com Cc: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload Message-ID: 002401cdd526$084d4e50$18e7eaf0$@be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hugh It only shows up when you have uploaded those files. No trace afterwards, if b4 28/11/2012 you probably need to upload Again due the BUG they fixed late evening on 28 November Guy ON4AOI -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Hugh Phillips K7XM Verzonden: zaterdag 8 december 2012 1:56 Aan: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Onderwerp: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload I have uploaded two TQ8 files to LoTW recently. Shouldn't those show up somewhere even though they have not been processed by LoTW ? I can't seem to find them, unless I'm not looking in the right place Using Dx4Win v8.05... 73 Hugh K7XM -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:44:57 -0500 From: David Kozinn, K2DBK k2...@arrl.net To: Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu Cc: DX4WIN Reflector dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] How to find what new countries I worked Message-ID: 50c36e89.7040...@arrl.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well for me, the clublog feature was exactly what I wanted in this case, but I can see where there might be other variations as well. None of the examples that I can think of (including the one I started this thread with) are must have things, but rather fall into the category of interesting things you can find out. On 12/7/2012 8:08 PM, Jim
Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
Hi Ed! Probably because a -very- high percentage of DX4WIN users use LOTW and have a high level of interest in LOTW 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Ed Stratton w...@ymail.com wrote: Why is LOTW backlog a thread on DX4WIN? Isn't there a LOTW discussion board... 73's Ed , W1ZZ w...@ymail.com From: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... Not sure how current their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed. But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast. Submitted my annual update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49. So some parts are working well *Steve, N3SL* Sioux City, IA CQ4 ITU7 EN12 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Agreed - 8 days 14 hours! At the current rate of growth the delay will be 9 days before tomorrow. Here are the latest numbers I have: Upload Time Time Processed Elapsed Time ==**= 2012/11/23 18:002012/11/27 00:433 06:43:34 2012/11/28 22:322012/12/05 02:086 03:35:10 2012/11/29 18:382012/12/06 05:106 10:32:20 2012/11/30 00:582012/12/06 18:246 17:26:26 2012/11/30 17:042012/12/07 17:287 00:24:16 2012/12/01 08:202012/12/08 19:097 10:49:15 2012/12/01 12:302012/12/09 01:107 12:40:49 2012/12/02 05:002012/12/10 19:318 14:31:29 The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page. If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially. The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of growth in the backlog. Based on the processing time for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs. With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)! I know the folks in Newington are saying trust us, but their performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote: Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine... __**__**__ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/dx4winhttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About 7 Days Behind
You can see the processing status here: http://www.arrl.org/logbook-queue-status -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] FW: ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About 7Days Behind
With the current state of affairs I thought some might find this helpful. -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:18 To: DX4WIN Reflector Subject: Re: [Dx4win] ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About 7Days Behind You can see the processing status here: http://www.arrl.org/logbook-queue-status -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] FW: ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About7Days Behind
Bugger, sorry meant for another group. By the way thanks for that Jim. -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Shaw Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:41 To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dx4win] FW: ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About7Days Behind With the current state of affairs I thought some might find this helpful. -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:18 To: DX4WIN Reflector Subject: Re: [Dx4win] ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About 7Days Behind You can see the processing status here: http://www.arrl.org/logbook-queue-status -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
Note: All award submissions are fast because dollars are includedSimple... My DX Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow anything with money attached spits out first!! Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your LOTW submission! LOTW is still better than surface mail unless the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up! 73, Art W6KY www.w6ky.com . Male deer have buck teeth. From: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... Not sure how current their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed. But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast. Submitted my annual update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49. So some parts are working well *Steve, N3SL* Sioux City, IA CQ4 ITU7 EN12 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Agreed - 8 days 14 hours! At the current rate of growth the delay will be 9 days before tomorrow. Here are the latest numbers I have: Upload Time Time Processed Elapsed Time ==**= 2012/11/23 18:002012/11/27 00:433 06:43:34 2012/11/28 22:322012/12/05 02:086 03:35:10 2012/11/29 18:382012/12/06 05:106 10:32:20 2012/11/30 00:582012/12/06 18:246 17:26:26 2012/11/30 17:042012/12/07 17:287 00:24:16 2012/12/01 08:202012/12/08 19:097 10:49:15 2012/12/01 12:302012/12/09 01:107 12:40:49 2012/12/02 05:002012/12/10 19:318 14:31:29 The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page. If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially. The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of growth in the backlog. Based on the processing time for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs. With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)! I know the folks in Newington are saying trust us, but their performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote: Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine... __**__**__ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/dx4winhttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations. Bob K8BL --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... To: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com, DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM Note: All award submissions are fast because dollars are includedSimple... My DX Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow anything with money attached spits out first!! Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your LOTW submission! LOTW is still better than surface mail unless the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up! 73, Art W6KY www.w6ky.com . Male deer have buck teeth. From: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... Not sure how current their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed. But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast. Submitted my annual update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49. So some parts are working well *Steve, N3SL* Sioux City, IA CQ4 ITU7 EN12 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Agreed - 8 days 14 hours! At the current rate of growth the delay will be 9 days before tomorrow. Here are the latest numbers I have: Upload Time Time Processed Elapsed Time ==**= 2012/11/23 18:00 2012/11/27 00:43 3 06:43:34 2012/11/28 22:32 2012/12/05 02:08 6 03:35:10 2012/11/29 18:38 2012/12/06 05:10 6 10:32:20 2012/11/30 00:58 2012/12/06 18:24 6 17:26:26 2012/11/30 17:04 2012/12/07 17:28 7 00:24:16 2012/12/01 08:20 2012/12/08 19:09 7 10:49:15 2012/12/01 12:30 2012/12/09 01:10 7 12:40:49 2012/12/02 05:00 2012/12/10 19:31 8 14:31:29 The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page. If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially. The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of growth in the backlog. Based on the processing time for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs. With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)! I know the folks in Newington are saying trust us, but their performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote: Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine... __**__**__ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/dx4winhttp://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations. There is absolutely no issue of singing a portable operation once you have the initial certificate. It takes less than one business day unless the operation is from a location that has specific access and licensing requirements. Even then, it's no more difficult than sending the same documentation to ARRL that would be needed to be accepted for DXCC (typically copy of license and landing permit). Anyone who complains about the sign-up process is too lazy to send copies of license and ID (equivalent to ham ticket and drivers license) with a valid mailing address and wait for the password to be mailed to the address on the ID. In many cases the process can be short circuited by providing the documentation in person at one of the many international conventions ARRL/DXCC/LotW staff attend on a regular basis. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 7:54 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote: There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations. Bob K8BL --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... To: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com, DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM Note: All award submissions are fast because dollars are includedSimple... My DX Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow anything with money attached spits out first!! Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your LOTW submission! LOTW is still better than surface mail unless the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up! 73, Art W6KY www.w6ky.com . Male deer have buck teeth. From: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... Not sure how current their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed. But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast. Submitted my annual update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49. So some parts are working well *Steve, N3SL* Sioux City, IA CQ4 ITU7 EN12 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Agreed - 8 days 14 hours! At the current rate of growth the delay will be 9 days before tomorrow. Here are the latest numbers I have: Upload Time Time Processed Elapsed Time ==**= 2012/11/23 18:002012/11/27 00:433 06:43:34 2012/11/28 22:322012/12/05 02:086 03:35:10 2012/11/29 18:382012/12/06 05:106 10:32:20 2012/11/30 00:582012/12/06 18:246 17:26:26 2012/11/30 17:042012/12/07 17:287 00:24:16 2012/12/01 08:202012/12/08 19:097 10:49:15 2012/12/01 12:302012/12/09 01:107 12:40:49 2012/12/02 05:002012/12/10 19:318 14:31:29 The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page. If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially. The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of growth in the backlog. Based on the processing time for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs. With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)! I know the folks in Newington are saying trust us, but their performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote: Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine... __**__**__ DX4WIN mailing list Home:
Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
I used Lotw for my operation in Belize. It was very easy to sign up. I simply scanned a copy of my license from Belize and emailed it to the DXCC desk at the ARRL. Everything was approved before I left. It couldn't have been much easier. I plan to do the same thing when I go to Grand Cayman this coming February. Dave, N4QS -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 6:54 PM To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations. Bob K8BL --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... To: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com, DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM Note: All award submissions are fast because dollars are includedSimple... My DX Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow anything with money attached spits out first!! Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your LOTW submission! LOTW is still better than surface mail unless the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up! 73, Art W6KY www.w6ky.com . Male deer have buck teeth. From: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... Not sure how current their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed. But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast. Submitted my annual update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49. So some parts are working well *Steve, N3SL* Sioux City, IA CQ4 ITU7 EN12 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Agreed - 8 days 14 hours! At the current rate of growth the delay will be 9 days before tomorrow. Here are the latest numbers I have: Upload Time Time Processed Elapsed Time ==**= 2012/11/23 18:00 2012/11/27 00:43 3 06:43:34 2012/11/28 22:32 2012/12/05 02:08 6 03:35:10 2012/11/29 18:38 2012/12/06 05:10 6 10:32:20 2012/11/30 00:58 2012/12/06 18:24 6 17:26:26 2012/11/30 17:04 2012/12/07 17:28 7 00:24:16 2012/12/01 08:20 2012/12/08 19:09 7 10:49:15 2012/12/01 12:30 2012/12/09 01:10 7 12:40:49 2012/12/02 05:00 2012/12/10 19:31 8 14:31:29 The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page. If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially. The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of growth in the backlog. Based on the processing time for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs. With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)! I know the folks in Newington are saying trust us, but their performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote: Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine... __**__**__ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/dx4winhttp://mailman.qth.net /mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing
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Agreed. Signing up for multiple portable operations is no big deal. But, each non-USA station must send a copy of his/her operating license plus a copy of a government issued ID such as drivers license, passport to this place in Newington. If I asked my local commissar in Blockavia if I should do this, he would probably have me locked up for being so stupid... I am certainly not going to send copies of my drivers license / passport to a foreign country, thru the 'mail' to get an award with the certainty my ID will be stolen... So,I don't think it's lazy, just common sense... It's bad enough sending Green Stamps that never arrive... 73, Art W6KY www.w6ky.com From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 5:19:13 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations. There is absolutely no issue of singing a portable operation once you have the initial certificate. It takes less than one business day unless the operation is from a location that has specific access and licensing requirements. Even then, it's no more difficult than sending the same documentation to ARRL that would be needed to be accepted for DXCC (typically copy of license and landing permit). Anyone who complains about the sign-up process is too lazy to send copies of license and ID (equivalent to ham ticket and drivers license) with a valid mailing address and wait for the password to be mailed to the address on the ID. In many cases the process can be short circuited by providing the documentation in person at one of the many international conventions ARRL/DXCC/LotW staff attend on a regular basis. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 7:54 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote: There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations. Bob K8BL --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... To: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com, DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM Note: All award submissions are fast because dollars are includedSimple... My DX Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow anything with money attached spits out first!! Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your LOTW submission! LOTW is still better than surface mail unless the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up! 73, Art W6KY www.w6ky.com . Male deer have buck teeth. From: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... Not sure how current their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed. But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast. Submitted my annual update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49. So some parts are working well *Steve, N3SL* Sioux City, IA CQ4 ITU7 EN12 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Agreed - 8 days 14 hours! At the current rate of growth the delay will be 9 days before tomorrow. Here are the latest numbers I have: Upload Time Time Processed Elapsed Time ==**= 2012/11/23 18:002012/11/27 00:433 06:43:34 2012/11/28 22:322012/12/05 02:086 03:35:10 2012/11/29 18:382012/12/06 05:106 10:32:20 2012/11/30 00:582012/12/06 18:246 17:26:26 2012/11/30 17:042012/12/07 17:287 00:24:16 2012/12/01 08:202012/12/08 19:097 10:49:15 2012/12/01 12:302012/12/09 01:107 12:40:49 2012/12/02 05:002012/12/10 19:318 14:31:29 The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page. If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially. The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of growth in the backlog. Based on the processing time for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the deadline for
Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
In 2012 alone, I operated portable from 29 different locations (Grid Squares) in the US Canada. It would be easy to get signed up for LOTW for each and every one of these? Maybe I underestimate the process? Bob K8BL --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com, dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 9:21 PM Agreed. Signing up for multiple portable operations is no big deal. But, each non-USA station must send a copy of his/her operating license plus a copy of a government issued ID such as drivers license, passport to this place in Newington. If I asked my local commissar in Blockavia if I should do this, he would probably have me locked up for being so stupid... I am certainly not going to send copies of my drivers license / passport to a foreign country, thru the 'mail' to get an award with the certainty my ID will be stolen... So,I don't think it's lazy, just common sense... It's bad enough sending Green Stamps that never arrive... 73, Art W6KY www.w6ky.com From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 5:19:13 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations. There is absolutely no issue of singing a portable operation once you have the initial certificate. It takes less than one business day unless the operation is from a location that has specific access and licensing requirements. Even then, it's no more difficult than sending the same documentation to ARRL that would be needed to be accepted for DXCC (typically copy of license and landing permit). Anyone who complains about the sign-up process is too lazy to send copies of license and ID (equivalent to ham ticket and drivers license) with a valid mailing address and wait for the password to be mailed to the address on the ID. In many cases the process can be short circuited by providing the documentation in person at one of the many international conventions ARRL/DXCC/LotW staff attend on a regular basis. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 7:54 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote: There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations. Bob K8BL --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Art - W6KY w...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... To: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com, DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM Note: All award submissions are fast because dollars are includedSimple... My DX Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow anything with money attached spits out first!! Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your LOTW submission! LOTW is still better than surface mail unless the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up! 73, Art W6KY www.w6ky.com . Male deer have buck teeth. From: N3SL n3sl.d...@gmail.com To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ... Not sure how current their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed. But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast. Submitted my annual update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49. So some parts are working well *Steve, N3SL* Sioux City, IA CQ4 ITU7 EN12 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago. Agreed - 8 days 14 hours! At the current rate of growth the delay will be 9 days before tomorrow. Here are the latest numbers I have: Upload Time Time Processed Elapsed Time ==**= 2012/11/23 18:00 2012/11/27 00:43 3 06:43:34 2012/11/28 22:32 2012/12/05 02:08 6 03:35:10 2012/11/29 18:38 2012/12/06 05:10 6 10:32:20 2012/11/30 00:58 2012/12/06 18:24 6 17:26:26 2012/11/30 17:04 2012/12/07 17:28 7 00:24:16 2012/12/01 08:20 2012/12/08 19:09 7 10:49:15 2012/12/01 12:30 2012/12/09 01:10 7 12:40:49 2012/12/02 05:00 2012/12/10 19:31 8 14:31:29 The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about
Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
You can use your US certificate to apply for a Canadian one (which will be issued in less than a day in most cases), then you can create locations anywhere in Canada where you've operated. And if you happen to sign W1ABC/R (for Rover) or W9ZYX/0 and want to use that with LotW you simply use your US certificate to apply for another with the self-assigned modifier. Again, the additional certificate will generally be issued in one business day (or less). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/10/2012 9:52 PM, Rick Murphy wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:45 PM, R.T.Liddy k...@ameritech.net wrote: In 2012 alone, I operated portable from 29 different locations (Grid Squares) in the US Canada. It would be easy to get signed up for LOTW for each and every one of these? Maybe I underestimate the process? Yes, it's trivial. Once you have a US certificate, you just create locations for each US-based grid square you operate from. No sign-up required. You can use your US certificate to apply for a Canadian one (which will be issued in less than a day in most cases), then you can create locations anywhere in Canada where you've operated. Once you've gotten through the initial sign-up hurdle, additional locations/entities/etc. are pretty easy. (It's only the rare ones where this is a problem. Applying for a SV/A certificate will likely be held up until you can present a license.) 73, -Rick __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
