Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking
I just updated the application note, in the section I already have DXCC Award credits, but have never tracked them in DX4WIN. The ARRL LoTW site does give you a method of identifying the exact QSO for every DXCC credit you have received, for any award - mixed, band or mode. It's described in this section. This will make it easier to get DX4WIN to match your ARRL records if you did not keep track of which QSLs you submitted for credit. 73 - Jim AD1C On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C jjreis...@alum.mit.edu wrote: I've written a new application note entitled, DXCC Award Tracking. You can find it here: http://dx4win.ad1c.us/appnotes/dxcc.htm This is in response to the various questions on the reflector in recent weeks about DXCC submissions. It attempts to cover the following topics: * The DX4WIN Submission Process * I already have DXCC Award credits, but have never tracked them in DX4WIN. What do I do? * How does LoTW Complicate Things? This is my first draft and is a work in progress. If there are typos or other mistakes, or something isn't clear, or isn't addressed, please let me know so I can update it. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking
Sorry for the bother Mike, however perhaps you (or someone else) will know the answer to the following: If I look at the DXCC summary (excluding deleted) I have 1311 entities/ cards for submission. If I then open the SUBMISSION it only shows 391 stations listed. I have tried clearing the SUBMITTED award flags and then rehitting SUBMISSION with the same result. I just cannot see how those 391 cards will fill in all the gaps. 73 Andy G3SVD _ From: Mike Rhodes [mailto:w...@roadrunner.com] Sent: 13 January 2009 11:04 To: Andy Hewitt Subject: Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking Andy, Not sure why the 30 Q listing. However, you are correct that you will get whatever credits are available from the 1300 cards. One more thing to note is that it is actually the contacts rather than the cards that are counted. That is, if you send in 100 cards but half of them have two confirmations on them, you will end up with 150 credits rather than 100 UNLESS you tag the multi-Q cards with an indication of which Q to count. With a large submission that can be a bit of a surprise when the bill comes in! Good luck and congrats on all the awards. Oh yeah, I think the plaques are overpriced but they sure do look nice on the wall. Mike / W8DN Andy Hewitt wrote: Jim and Mike, No I don't want to break it down at all. I have 216 confirmations on LOTW so really, I think, I only need to worry about the 108 that are not confirmed on LOTW but for which I have cards, plus all the various card confirmations I have for the individual bands. I can get the cards field checked in the UK at one of the conventions/rallies so I am not risking the cards nor paying postage. I will then only have to pay for the certificates plus whatever the field checkers charge over here. This is what comes of only becoming interested in getting wall paper (the only one that matters) late in life. I have found another oddity:- in DX4Win if I go into REPORTS-DXCC-FIVE BAND SUBMISSION I get a list of about 30 stations that I have worked on all five bands. Not the list of stations that make up 100 entities for each band. I don't even know if these 30 are all that I have worked on five bands or not but that is what DX4W brings up. I assume that if I get 1300 cards checked against band and mode when they are entered into the system it will all come out in the wash. Or, is that too simple? 73 Andy G3SVD -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rhodes Sent: 13 January 2009 00:17 To: DX4WIN Subject: Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking Jim, I suspect that is exactly what Andy wants to do, submit separately. With 1300 cards to be checked, that figures up to something like $12 for the first 120 Qs and $177 for the next 1180. Then there will be an additional $12 for each certificate so, assuming 5BDXCC, that is another $60 for each band plus another $12 for the 5BDXCC cert. That brings him to about $261, not counting Registered Mail round trip for about 9 pounds of cards! I don't think I would be willing to trust the PO with nearly every QSL I owned, all in one place at one time! Bu the ARRL still has Andy in a tough (expensive) spot because, unless he wants to spread this job out over several years, he is still going to have to either take the 15 cents/card hit for some oversized shipments or pay the extra $10 per submission to submit more than once per year! Oh yeah, don't forget the extra $12 per for the CW, SSB, and RTTY DXCC certs... Andy, my suggestion is, once you decide how big a hit you want to take at a time, is to export the submissions to EXCEL and sort them into whatever bitesize chunks you desire. Just make sure your export file includes the various submission categories. Mike / W8DN * Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: Hi Andy, As long as the awards you care about are enabled in your DXCC preferences (there are check boxes for the bands and modes, as well as the award types (Band, Mode, Mixed), and those bands are also enabled in your Station preferences, Reports - DXCC - Submission will cause confirmations for *all* relevant awards to be submitted at the same time. You do not have to do them separately. Does that make sense? - Jim On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Andy Hewitt mailto:andyphew...@btopenworld.com andyphew...@btopenworld.com wrote: Jim, As I said in my direct email many thanks for producing this application note. One thing that I do not seem to be able to get right is the SUBMISSION. As I have never submitted an application for DXCC using cards I have something like 1300 cards to be checked if I apply for separate mode and band awards as well as the mixed mode. As I seem to have ticks in all the right boxes I was expecting the submission to contain all the cards to the total shown in the summary
Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking
Andy Are all bands for who you wanna submit flagged in preferences DXCC? Try also 5 bnd submission You can reach me via skype if you like to compare Guy ON4AOI Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Andy Hewitt Verzonden: dinsdag 13 januari 2009 13:35 Aan: 'Mike Rhodes' CC: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking Sorry for the bother Mike, however perhaps you (or someone else) will know the answer to the following: If I look at the DXCC summary (excluding deleted) I have 1311 entities/ cards for submission. If I then open the SUBMISSION it only shows 391 stations listed. I have tried clearing the SUBMITTED award flags and then rehitting SUBMISSION with the same result. I just cannot see how those 391 cards will fill in all the gaps. 73 Andy G3SVD _ From: Mike Rhodes [mailto:w...@roadrunner.com] Sent: 13 January 2009 11:04 To: Andy Hewitt Subject: Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking Andy, Not sure why the 30 Q listing. However, you are correct that you will get whatever credits are available from the 1300 cards. One more thing to note is that it is actually the contacts rather than the cards that are counted. That is, if you send in 100 cards but half of them have two confirmations on them, you will end up with 150 credits rather than 100 UNLESS you tag the multi-Q cards with an indication of which Q to count. With a large submission that can be a bit of a surprise when the bill comes in! Good luck and congrats on all the awards. Oh yeah, I think the plaques are overpriced but they sure do look nice on the wall. Mike / W8DN Andy Hewitt wrote: Jim and Mike, No I don't want to break it down at all. I have 216 confirmations on LOTW so really, I think, I only need to worry about the 108 that are not confirmed on LOTW but for which I have cards, plus all the various card confirmations I have for the individual bands. I can get the cards field checked in the UK at one of the conventions/rallies so I am not risking the cards nor paying postage. I will then only have to pay for the certificates plus whatever the field checkers charge over here. This is what comes of only becoming interested in getting wall paper (the only one that matters) late in life. I have found another oddity:- in DX4Win if I go into REPORTS-DXCC-FIVE BAND SUBMISSION I get a list of about 30 stations that I have worked on all five bands. Not the list of stations that make up 100 entities for each band. I don't even know if these 30 are all that I have worked on five bands or not but that is what DX4W brings up. I assume that if I get 1300 cards checked against band and mode when they are entered into the system it will all come out in the wash. Or, is that too simple? 73 Andy G3SVD -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rhodes Sent: 13 January 2009 00:17 To: DX4WIN Subject: Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking Jim, I suspect that is exactly what Andy wants to do, submit separately. With 1300 cards to be checked, that figures up to something like $12 for the first 120 Qs and $177 for the next 1180. Then there will be an additional $12 for each certificate so, assuming 5BDXCC, that is another $60 for each band plus another $12 for the 5BDXCC cert. That brings him to about $261, not counting Registered Mail round trip for about 9 pounds of cards! I don't think I would be willing to trust the PO with nearly every QSL I owned, all in one place at one time! Bu the ARRL still has Andy in a tough (expensive) spot because, unless he wants to spread this job out over several years, he is still going to have to either take the 15 cents/card hit for some oversized shipments or pay the extra $10 per submission to submit more than once per year! Oh yeah, don't forget the extra $12 per for the CW, SSB, and RTTY DXCC certs... Andy, my suggestion is, once you decide how big a hit you want to take at a time, is to export the submissions to EXCEL and sort them into whatever bitesize chunks you desire. Just make sure your export file includes the various submission categories. Mike / W8DN * Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: Hi Andy, As long as the awards you care about are enabled in your DXCC preferences (there are check boxes for the bands and modes, as well as the award types (Band, Mode, Mixed), and those bands are also enabled in your Station preferences, Reports - DXCC - Submission will cause confirmations for *all* relevant awards to be submitted at the same time. You do not have to do them separately. Does that make sense? - Jim On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Andy Hewitt mailto:andyphew...@btopenworld.com andyphew...@btopenworld.com wrote: Jim, As I said in my direct email many thanks for producing this application
Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking
Jim, As I said in my direct email many thanks for producing this application note. One thing that I do not seem to be able to get right is the SUBMISSION. As I have never submitted an application for DXCC using cards I have something like 1300 cards to be checked if I apply for separate mode and band awards as well as the mixed mode. As I seem to have ticks in all the right boxes I was expecting the submission to contain all the cards to the total shown in the summary. However if I clear all the flags I can get a Mixed mode submission for 324 entities, then I clear the flags again and I get 175 entities for 6m. Do I have to keep doing this for each band and mode? Many 73 Andy G3SVD -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: 11 January 2009 17:49 To: 'DX4WIN' Subject: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking I've written a new application note entitled, DXCC Award Tracking. You can find it here: http://dx4win.ad1c.us/appnotes/dxcc.htm This is in response to the various questions on the reflector in recent weeks about DXCC submissions. It attempts to cover the following topics: * The DX4WIN Submission Process * I already have DXCC Award credits, but have never tracked them in DX4WIN. What do I do? * How does LoTW Complicate Things? This is my first draft and is a work in progress. If there are typos or other mistakes, or something isn't clear, or isn't addressed, please let me know so I can update it. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking
Hi Andy, As long as the awards you care about are enabled in your DXCC preferences (there are check boxes for the bands and modes, as well as the award types (Band, Mode, Mixed), and those bands are also enabled in your Station preferences, Reports - DXCC - Submission will cause confirmations for *all* relevant awards to be submitted at the same time. You do not have to do them separately. Does that make sense? - Jim On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Andy Hewitt andyphew...@btopenworld.com wrote: Jim, As I said in my direct email many thanks for producing this application note. One thing that I do not seem to be able to get right is the SUBMISSION. As I have never submitted an application for DXCC using cards I have something like 1300 cards to be checked if I apply for separate mode and band awards as well as the mixed mode. As I seem to have ticks in all the right boxes I was expecting the submission to contain all the cards to the total shown in the summary. However if I clear all the flags I can get a Mixed mode submission for 324 entities, then I clear the flags again and I get 175 entities for 6m. Do I have to keep doing this for each band and mode? Many 73 Andy G3SVD -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
Re: [Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking
Jim, I suspect that is exactly what Andy wants to do, submit separately. With 1300 cards to be checked, that figures up to something like $12 for the first 120 Qs and $177 for the next 1180. Then there will be an additional $12 for each certificate so, assuming 5BDXCC, that is another $60 for each band plus another $12 for the 5BDXCC cert. That brings him to about $261, not counting Registered Mail round trip for about 9 pounds of cards! I don't think I would be willing to trust the PO with nearly every QSL I owned, all in one place at one time! Bu the ARRL still has Andy in a tough (expensive) spot because, unless he wants to spread this job out over several years, he is still going to have to either take the 15 cents/card hit for some oversized shipments or pay the extra $10 per submission to submit more than once per year! Oh yeah, don't forget the extra $12 per for the CW, SSB, and RTTY DXCC certs... Andy, my suggestion is, once you decide how big a hit you want to take at a time, is to export the submissions to EXCEL and sort them into whatever bitesize chunks you desire. Just make sure your export file includes the various submission categories. Mike / W8DN * Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: Hi Andy, As long as the awards you care about are enabled in your DXCC preferences (there are check boxes for the bands and modes, as well as the award types (Band, Mode, Mixed), and those bands are also enabled in your Station preferences, Reports - DXCC - Submission will cause confirmations for *all* relevant awards to be submitted at the same time. You do not have to do them separately. Does that make sense? - Jim On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Andy Hewitt andyphew...@btopenworld.com wrote: Jim, As I said in my direct email many thanks for producing this application note. One thing that I do not seem to be able to get right is the SUBMISSION. As I have never submitted an application for DXCC using cards I have something like 1300 cards to be checked if I apply for separate mode and band awards as well as the mixed mode. As I seem to have ticks in all the right boxes I was expecting the submission to contain all the cards to the total shown in the summary. However if I clear all the flags I can get a Mixed mode submission for 324 entities, then I clear the flags again and I get 175 entities for 6m. Do I have to keep doing this for each band and mode? Many 73 Andy G3SVD ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] New Application Note: DXCC Award Tracking
I've written a new application note entitled, DXCC Award Tracking. You can find it here: http://dx4win.ad1c.us/appnotes/dxcc.htm This is in response to the various questions on the reflector in recent weeks about DXCC submissions. It attempts to cover the following topics: * The DX4WIN Submission Process * I already have DXCC Award credits, but have never tracked them in DX4WIN. What do I do? * How does LoTW Complicate Things? This is my first draft and is a work in progress. If there are typos or other mistakes, or something isn't clear, or isn't addressed, please let me know so I can update it. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
