[Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion
Well like I said, I agree fundamentally but to be honest I can see both just as well at this point of my life. I'm sure a day will come that I may change that tune. Just in case anyone's wondering I'm on a 19 screen at 1600 x 1200 (thought I was at 1024 x 768 still) because I wanted to have too much open on the screen at once, (like every window) and have done so since version 4.x . I suppose I could used to an O as well any other letter :O) WWMWMWM works too LOL! I think the only solution to this whole problem is to have this: CCC We all can see that one. Anyway, thanks for the bandwidth and I'm mostly just funnin' with everyone cuz' it don't much matter to me what letter is used and if the majority wants something other than M that's fine with me. I want all C's anyway :O) 73, Todd WM8C's Ham Links www.wm8c.com All emails scanned with NIS2003 - Original Message - From: Joe - WD?M To: Todd ; DX 4 Windows Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion Scolded? Naaa.mildly chastised? Maybe. I use a 19 inch LCD screen.I see absolutely everything fine otherwisewhy should I have to compromise with DX4WIN? The report isn't anything I can change. Why not focus (pardon the pun) on customer satisfaction, since it's something I'd think is quite easily changed. Maybe the COLOR could be changed in the report to emphasize the differences, rather than be limited to black on white? The significant confusion factor is the consistency of vertical and slanted lines seen (pun again) in using the M and W. Here's the example: MMWMMWW MMOMMOO Which is easier to distinguish? 73, Joe WD?M (ex WL7M, which is the same upside down!) At 03:54 PM 11/1/2004, Todd wrote: Hmmm...sounds to me like larger screens or lower screen resolutions are in order :O) I only need reading glasses at this point but and still 1024 x 768, but could always go back to 640 x 480 if I had too :O) I agree fundamentally with the point being made but it sounds like the screens are either too small or resolutions too high for the user. I know it's easy to want to get everything on the screen, but maybe time to sacrifice something so you don't have to strain so hard to see it? Just my thoughts and I'm sure I'll get scolded for them... 73, Todd WM8C
[Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion
I too use a 19 inch monitor at 1600x1200. I did this so that I can get the DX4WIN windows on the screen and also open something like MMTTY, HamScope, CWGet or other such programs in the remaining space. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe - WD?M Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:42 AM To: Todd; DX 4 Windows Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion Great idea! I'll change my recommendation to C! :-) 73, Joe WD?M At 03:49 AM 11/2/2004, Todd wrote: Well like I said, I agree fundamentally but to be honest I can see both just as well at this point of my life. I'm sure a day will come that I may change that tune. Just in case anyone's wondering I'm on a 19 screen at 1600 x 1200 (thought I was at 1024 x 768 still) because I wanted to have too much open on the screen at once, (like every window) and have done so since version 4.x . I suppose I could used to an O as well any other letter :O) WWMWMWM works too LOL! I think the only solution to this whole problem is to have this: CCC We all can see that one. Anyway, thanks for the bandwidth and I'm mostly just funnin' with everyone cuz' it don't much matter to me what letter is used and if the majority wants something other than M that's fine with me. I want all C's anyway :O) 73, Todd WM8C's Ham Links www.wm8c.com All emails scanned with NIS2003 - Original Message - From: Joe - WD?M To: Todd ; DX 4 Windows Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion Scolded? Naaa.mildly chastised? Maybe. I use a 19 inch LCD screen.I see absolutely everything fine otherwisewhy should I have to compromise with DX4WIN? The report isn't anything I can change. Why not focus (pardon the pun) on customer satisfaction, since it's something I'd think is quite easily changed. Maybe the COLOR could be changed in the report to emphasize the differences, rather than be limited to black on white? The significant confusion factor is the consistency of vertical and slanted lines seen (pun again) in using the M and W. Here's the example: MMWMMWW MMOMMOO Which is easier to distinguish? 73, Joe WD?M (ex WL7M, which is the same upside down!) At 03:54 PM 11/1/2004, Todd wrote: Hmmm...sounds to me like larger screens or lower screen resolutions are in order :O) I only need reading glasses at this point but and still 1024 x 768, but could always go back to 640 x 480 if I had too :O) I agree fundamentally with the point being made but it sounds like the screens are either too small or resolutions too high for the user. I know it's easy to want to get everything on the screen, but maybe time to sacrifice something so you don't have to strain so hard to see it? Just my thoughts and I'm sure I'll get scolded for them... 73, Todd WM8C ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion
I just realized something...if we change the M to an O what happens when we have this string? CCOCCCOCC Now the O's and C's look alike! Oh nooo... :O) 73, Todd WM8C's Ham Links www.wm8c.com All emails scanned with NIS2003 - Original Message - From: Joe - WD?M To: Todd ; DX 4 Windows Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion Great idea! I'll change my recommendation to C! :-) 73, Joe WD?M At 03:49 AM 11/2/2004, Todd wrote: Well like I said, I agree fundamentally but to be honest I can see both just as well at this point of my life. I'm sure a day will come that I may change that tune. Just in case anyone's wondering I'm on a 19 screen at 1600 x 1200 (thought I was at 1024 x 768 still) because I wanted to have too much open on the screen at once, (like every window) and have done so since version 4.x . I suppose I could used to an O as well any other letter :O) WWMWMWM works too LOL! I think the only solution to this whole problem is to have this: CCC We all can see that one. Anyway, thanks for the bandwidth and I'm mostly just funnin' with everyone cuz' it don't much matter to me what letter is used and if the majority wants something other than M that's fine with me. I want all C's anyway :O) 73, Todd WM8C's Ham Links www.wm8c.com All emails scanned with NIS2003 - Original Message - From: Joe - WD?M To: Todd ; DX 4 Windows Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion Scolded? Naaa.mildly chastised? Maybe. I use a 19 inch LCD screen.I see absolutely everything fine otherwisewhy should I have to compromise with DX4WIN? The report isn't anything I can change. Why not focus (pardon the pun) on customer satisfaction, since it's something I'd think is quite easily changed. Maybe the COLOR could be changed in the report to emphasize the differences, rather than be limited to black on white? The significant confusion factor is the consistency of vertical and slanted lines seen (pun again) in using the M and W. Here's the example: MMWMMWW MMOMMOO Which is easier to distinguish? 73, Joe WD?M (ex WL7M, which is the same upside down!) At 03:54 PM 11/1/2004, Todd wrote: Hmmm...sounds to me like larger screens or lower screen resolutions are in order :O) I only need reading glasses at this point but and still 1024 x 768, but could always go back to 640 x 480 if I had too :O) I agree fundamentally with the point being made but it sounds like the screens are either too small or resolutions too high for the user. I know it's easy to want to get everything on the screen, but maybe time to sacrifice something so you don't have to strain so hard to see it? Just my thoughts and I'm sure I'll get scolded for them... 73, Todd WM8C ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion
That's a good suggestion, Joe. I'd like to see a QSL received date field, but it's also OK to use the Note field, which is what I do now. Kevin K7VI From: Joe - WD?M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 12:50:58 -0700 To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion After checking for new countries/modes/bands/zones worked the day after CW WW SSB was over, I suddenly realized that there is a possible improvement to the report function of DX4WIN. I'd love to see the M for Mailed changed to S for Sent. When scanning a report to check to see if the QSL has been Mailed, it is very hard to discern an M from a W. Given that the LOTW option allows you to Send a card electronically, rather than Mail it, it also makes sense from this perspective. I already have trifocals.and I doubt THAT will improve! ;-) Thanks for considering Joe WD?M ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion
Joe, That is something that I would also like to see. Being beyond trifocals and using the Varilux style glasses with infinite focal points another problem that I have encountered is the difference between asterisk for credited and a period for a blank spot in the report. More than once I read that wrong. My preference would be a dash or blank for an empty block in the reports. An X in lieu of the asterisk would also work. Just changing one so there is more contrast between them would do it for me. That was a suggestion that I made a few revisions back. 73, Bob K2TK
[Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion
Good point. How about O for outbound?? :-) Anything but W and Mus old poops with trifocals/varilux glasses need the help. 73, Joe WD?M At 03:02 PM 11/1/2004, Duane A Calvin wrote: Isn't S already used for Submitted? 73, Duane On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 12:50:58 -0700 Joe - =?iso-8859-1?Q?WD=D8M?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After checking for new countries/modes/bands/zones worked the day after CW WW SSB was over, I suddenly realized that there is a possible improvement to the report function of DX4WIN. I'd love to see the M for Mailed changed to S for Sent. When scanning a report to check to see if the QSL has been Mailed, it is very hard to discern an M from a W. Given that the LOTW option allows you to Send a card electronically, rather than Mail it, it also makes sense from this perspective. I already have trifocals.and I doubt THAT will improve! ;-) Thanks for considering Joe WD?M
[Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion
Not an S, if you think confusing M for a W is a problem, wait till you have an S for sent AND an S for Submit! Don W6FFH - Original Message - From: Joe - WD?M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:50 AM Subject: [Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion After checking for new countries/modes/bands/zones worked the day after CW WW SSB was over, I suddenly realized that there is a possible improvement to the report function of DX4WIN. I'd love to see the M for Mailed changed to S for Sent. When scanning a report to check to see if the QSL has been Mailed, it is very hard to discern an M from a W. Given that the LOTW option allows you to Send a card electronically, rather than Mail it, it also makes sense from this perspective. I already have trifocals.and I doubt THAT will improve! ;-) Thanks for considering Joe WD?M ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion
Scolded? Naaa.mildly chastised? Maybe. I use a 19 inch LCD screen.I see absolutely everything fine otherwisewhy should I have to compromise with DX4WIN? The report isn't anything I can change. Why not focus (pardon the pun) on customer satisfaction, since it's something I'd think is quite easily changed. Maybe the COLOR could be changed in the report to emphasize the differences, rather than be limited to black on white? The significant confusion factor is the consistency of vertical and slanted lines seen (pun again) in using the M and W. Here's the example: MMWMMWW MMOMMOO Which is easier to distinguish? 73, Joe WD?M (ex WL7M, which is the same upside down!) At 03:54 PM 11/1/2004, Todd wrote: Hmmm...sounds to me like larger screens or lower screen resolutions are in order :O) I only need reading glasses at this point but and still 1024 x 768, but could always go back to 640 x 480 if I had too :O) I agree fundamentally with the point being made but it sounds like the screens are either too small or resolutions too high for the user. I know it's easy to want to get everything on the screen, but maybe time to sacrifice something so you don't have to strain so hard to see it? Just my thoughts and I'm sure I'll get scolded for them... 73, Todd WM8C
[Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion
Sure, that's a fair comment. But screen real estate is valuable, especially in a multi-window user interface like DX4Win uses. I run at 1600x1200 on a 20 LCD, but I'm a software developer so am a bit odd... ;-) Seriously, I like having my Reports window stretched out. Ditto my spot window. Plus I have 8 or 9 other small windows open. Makes for a nice logging experience. Can't see how that could be done at 640x480. :) Why not make these characters user configurable? Easy. Just takes time and testing. Provide a default button to stop the insanity and return to the recommended values when the user is tired of customizing. It's so easy to make user interface suggestions. I was a UI designer for nearly 10 years, so I have some appreciation for being on the other side of the compiler. 73 Kevin K7VI From: Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 17:54:59 -0500 To: DX 4 Windows dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion Hmmm...sounds to me like larger screens or lower screen resolutions are in order :O) I only need reading glasses at this point but and still 1024 x 768, but could always go back to 640 x 480 if I had too :O) I agree fundamentally with the point being made but it sounds like the screens are either too small or resolutions too high for the user. I know it's easy to want to get everything on the screen, but maybe time to sacrifice something so you don't have to strain so hard to see it? Just my thoughts and I'm sure I'll get scolded for them... 73, Todd WM8C's Ham Links www.wm8c.com All emails scanned with NIS2003 - Original Message - From: Robert Larson To: Joe - WD?M ; DX 4 Windows Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Report Improvement Suggestion Joe, That is something that I would also like to see. Being beyond trifocals and using the Varilux style glasses with infinite focal points another problem that I have encountered is the difference between asterisk for credited and a period for a blank spot in the report. More than once I read that wrong. My preference would be a dash or blank for an empty block in the reports. An X in lieu of the asterisk would also work. Just changing one so there is more contrast between them would do it for me. That was a suggestion that I made a few revisions back. 73, Bob K2TK ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
