Fwd: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI script and the Opera browser, v7

2003-01-03 Thread Anne-Hilde Vestre 
Hi

Can anyone her help me get in touch with someone that could answer my 
question below about the
DynAPI script written by Dan Steinman and the Opera browser? Thanks :)

Best regards,
Anne-Hilde Vestre
Opera Software

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Just one thing which I forgot to mention. It's Opera 7 that can handle 
DynAPI's MSIE code. Opera 6 didn't have enough DOM support.
So if you are going to test how this works, it has to be done with Opera 
7, beta.

Thank you!

Regards,
Anne-Hilde Vestre
Opera Software


Att: DynAPI developers

Opera Software unfortunately receives a lot of bug-reports on sites that 
use a DynAPI script written by Dan Steinman and maintained by SourceForge.net.
The problem seems to be that you are not identifying Opera correctly and 
therefore not sending us the correct code. If Opera identifies as MSIE, 
the scripts seem to work well. Would it be possible for you to update your 
script and make sure Opera gets the same code as you send to MSIE? That 
would help us a lot.

Below follows examples of how to correctly identify the Opera browser.

---How to identify Opera correctly---
To make sure to correctly check for Opera, we
suggest you look for Opera anywhere in the UA string. The search for
Opera should  be BEFORE all other searches to make sure that Opera is found.


This is how the UA string in Opera may appear:

Opera/6.05 (Windows 98; U) [en]
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98) Opera 6.0 [en]
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 98; U) Opera 6.0 [en]
Mozilla/4.78 (Windows 98; U) Opera 6.0 [en]
Mozilla/3.0 (Windows 98; U) Opera 6.0 [en]

In Opera 7, MSIE 6.0 has been added when ID is set to MSIE:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE, 6.0; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98) Opera 7.0 [en]

Notes:
- It can be Opera/7.0,6.05, 6.04, 6.03,6.02, 6.0, 5.12, 5.02, etc.
- 4.78 may become something else in the future and may have been
something else in the past.  This means that all version numbers may be
changed.
- If you want to see what version of Opera that is used, then please
look AFTER the name Opera. Opera might be followed by either a slash
("/") or a space.
- language may be changed depending on the user's preferences
- note that if you use JavaScript to retrieve information about the
browser, then you will need to use the UA string and not the
application name attribute. This is because the application name
attribute will show MSIE or Netscape if Opera identifies as one of
these.
- Generic regexp pattern for retrieving Opera versions from UA String:
Opera.([\d]+\.[\d]+)
--

We hope this problem can be fixed and hope to hear from you soon regarding 
this problem.


Thanks and regards,
Anne-Hilde Vestre
Opera Software ASA
www.opera.com



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Re: Fwd: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI script and the Opera browser, v7

2003-01-03 Thread Raymond Irving 

Hi Anne,

I think Opera support will only be available in 2.9

I'll take a lot at supporting  opera 7 (and maybe
opera 5 and 6)

--
Raymond Irving


--- Anne-Hilde Vestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Can anyone her help me get in touch with someone
> that could answer my 
> question below about the
> DynAPI script written by Dan Steinman and the Opera
> browser? Thanks :)
> 
> Best regards,
> Anne-Hilde Vestre
> Opera Software
> 
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> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >From: Anne-Hilde Vestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI script and the Opera
> browser, v7
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> >Just one thing which I forgot to mention. It's
> Opera 7 that can handle 
> >DynAPI's MSIE code. Opera 6 didn't have enough DOM
> support.
> >So if you are going to test how this works, it has
> to be done with Opera 
> >7, beta.
> >
> >Thank you!
> >
> >Regards,
> >Anne-Hilde Vestre
> >Opera Software
> >
> >
> >Att: DynAPI developers
> >
> >Opera Software unfortunately receives a lot of
> bug-reports on sites that 
> >use a DynAPI script written by Dan Steinman and
> maintained by SourceForge.net.
> >The problem seems to be that you are not
> identifying Opera correctly and 
> >therefore not sending us the correct code. If Opera
> identifies as MSIE, 
> >the scripts seem to work well. Would it be possible
> for you to update your 
> >script and make sure Opera gets the same code as
> you send to MSIE? That 
> >would help us a lot.
> >
> >Below follows examples of how to correctly identify
> the Opera browser.
> >
> >---How to identify Opera
> correctly---
> >To make sure to correctly check for Opera, we
> >suggest you look for Opera anywhere in the UA
> string. The search for
> >Opera should  be BEFORE all other searches to make
> sure that Opera is found.
> >
> >
> >This is how the UA string in Opera may appear:
> >
> >Opera/6.05 (Windows 98; U) [en]
> >Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98)
> Opera 6.0 [en]
> >Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 98; U) Opera 6.0 [en]
> >Mozilla/4.78 (Windows 98; U) Opera 6.0 [en]
> >Mozilla/3.0 (Windows 98; U) Opera 6.0 [en]
> >
> >In Opera 7, MSIE 6.0 has been added when ID is set
> to MSIE:
> >Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE, 6.0; MSIE 5.0;
> Windows 98) Opera 7.0 [en]
> >
> >Notes:
> >- It can be Opera/7.0,6.05, 6.04, 6.03,6.02, 6.0,
> 5.12, 5.02, etc.
> >- 4.78 may become something else in the future and
> may have been
> >something else in the past.  This means that all
> version numbers may be
> >changed.
> >- If you want to see what version of Opera that is
> used, then please
> >look AFTER the name Opera. Opera might be followed
> by either a slash
> >("/") or a space.
> >- language may be changed depending on the user's
> preferences
> >- note that if you use JavaScript to retrieve
> information about the
> >browser, then you will need to use the UA string
> and not the
> >application name attribute. This is because the
> application name
> >attribute will show MSIE or Netscape if Opera
> identifies as one of
> >these.
> >- Generic regexp pattern for retrieving Opera
> versions from UA String:
> >Opera.([\d]+\.[\d]+)
> >--
> >
> >We hope this problem can be fixed and hope to hear
> from you soon regarding 
> >this problem.
> >
> >
> >Thanks and regards,
> >Anne-Hilde Vestre
> >Opera Software ASA
> >www.opera.com
> 
> 
> 
>
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[Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI and the Opera Browser

2003-01-03 Thread Raymond Irving 
Hello Everyone,

In some of the testing that I've done so far it seems
to me that we should not even attempt to support opera
5 and 6. These versions will only support layers
created before the page loads. 

I think we should just offer support for version 7+ as
it seems to work ok (90%) with the current ie
settings.

PS. Version 2.9 will support opera 7+

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