Re: [easybuild] 2019a update of common toolchains

2019-01-07 Thread pramod kumbhar
Same experience on our systems : we encountered multiple issues,
specifically with libfabric (which is default with Intel MPI 2019).

-Pramod

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:45 PM Alvarez, Damian 
wrote:

> A word of caution regarding Intel MPI 2019: They changed a lot of things
> under the hood, and we have seen lots of issues in our systems on
> relatively large jobs (1.5K+ MPI processes). Basically most collective
> algorithms don't make it through. We have seen that on 2 different
> InfiniBand systems, I am unsure about OmniPath, or about the underlying
> cause (maybe libfabric issues?), but with Intel MPI 2018 we haven't seen
> them.
>
> Best,
> Damian
>
> On 07.01.19, 16:37, "easybuild-requ...@lists.ugent.be on behalf of
> Kenneth Hoste"  kenneth.ho...@ugent.be> wrote:
>
> Dear EasyBuilders,
>
> By tradition at the start of the year, I have started looking at
> updating the 'foss' and 'intel' common toolchains, currently for the
> 2019a update.
> The plan is to include these in the upcoming EasyBuild v3.8.1 release,
> which I hope to release in a couple of weeks.
>
> Current proposals are:
>
> * foss/2019a:
>(see
> https://github.com/easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs/pull/7371)
>
>- GCC 8.2.0 + binutils 2.31.1 [LATEST for both]
>
>- OpenMPI 3.1.3 (latest 3.x)
>
>- OpenBLAS 0.3.5 [LATEST]
>  + ScaLAPACK 2.0.2 [LATEST]
>
> - FFTW 3.3.8 [LATEST]
>
> => There also is OpenMPI 4.0.0, but we generally stay away from new
> major version of a toolchain component for the common toolchains.
>
>Does anyone have a detailed view on how OpenMPI v4.0.0 compares
> to v3.1.3, and whether or not we should consider v4.0.0?
>
>
> * intel/2019a
>(see
> https://github.com/easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs/pull/7372)
>
>- Intel C/C++/Fortran compilers 2019.1.144  [LATEST]
>  (a.k.a. 2019 update 1, a.k.a. 19.0.1.144 according to "icc -V")
>  on top of GCC 8.2.0 + binutils 2.31.1
>
>- Intel MPI 2019.1.144 (a.k.a. 2019 update 1) [LATEST]
>
>- Intel MKL 2019.1.144 (a.k.a. 2019 update 1) [LATEST]
>
>=> Any positive/negative experiences with the latest version of the
> Intel tools, or any remarks that may be relevant to the version we pick
> for intel/2019a?
>
>
> I'm currently testing these foss/2019a and intel/2019a proposals with a
> bunch of existing easyconfigs using the */2018b equivalent.
>
> A couple of minor compilation problems popped up when compiling with
> GCC
> 8.2.0 (for HDF5, NASM, ...), but they were resolved trivially by simply
> updating to the latest version of these dependencies.
>
>
> The 2019a toolchain definitions will also be discussed during the
> EasyBuild conf call this Wednesday (Jan 9th).
>
>
>
> regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
> Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH
> 52425 Juelich
> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich
> Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498
> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher
> Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Wolfgang Marquardt (Vorsitzender),
> Karsten Beneke (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
> Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt
>
> 
>
> 
>
>


Re: [easybuild] 2019a update of common toolchains

2019-01-07 Thread Bart Oldeman
Hi Damian,

I have no idea if it helps but a new version of libfabric has just been
released:
https://github.com/ofiwg/libfabric/releases/tag/v1.7.0

whereas according to
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-mpi-library-release-notes-linux
Intel MPI 2019.1 ships with a customized 1.7.0 alpha version.

Bart

On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 10:46, Alvarez, Damian 
wrote:

> A word of caution regarding Intel MPI 2019: They changed a lot of things
> under the hood, and we have seen lots of issues in our systems on
> relatively large jobs (1.5K+ MPI processes). Basically most collective
> algorithms don't make it through. We have seen that on 2 different
> InfiniBand systems, I am unsure about OmniPath, or about the underlying
> cause (maybe libfabric issues?), but with Intel MPI 2018 we haven't seen
> them.
>
> Best,
> Damian
>
> On 07.01.19, 16:37, "easybuild-requ...@lists.ugent.be on behalf of
> Kenneth Hoste"  kenneth.ho...@ugent.be> wrote:
>
> Dear EasyBuilders,
>
> By tradition at the start of the year, I have started looking at
> updating the 'foss' and 'intel' common toolchains, currently for the
> 2019a update.
> The plan is to include these in the upcoming EasyBuild v3.8.1 release,
> which I hope to release in a couple of weeks.
>
> Current proposals are:
>
> * foss/2019a:
>(see
> https://github.com/easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs/pull/7371)
>
>- GCC 8.2.0 + binutils 2.31.1 [LATEST for both]
>
>- OpenMPI 3.1.3 (latest 3.x)
>
>- OpenBLAS 0.3.5 [LATEST]
>  + ScaLAPACK 2.0.2 [LATEST]
>
> - FFTW 3.3.8 [LATEST]
>
> => There also is OpenMPI 4.0.0, but we generally stay away from new
> major version of a toolchain component for the common toolchains.
>
>Does anyone have a detailed view on how OpenMPI v4.0.0 compares
> to v3.1.3, and whether or not we should consider v4.0.0?
>
>
> * intel/2019a
>(see
> https://github.com/easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs/pull/7372)
>
>- Intel C/C++/Fortran compilers 2019.1.144  [LATEST]
>  (a.k.a. 2019 update 1, a.k.a. 19.0.1.144 according to "icc -V")
>  on top of GCC 8.2.0 + binutils 2.31.1
>
>- Intel MPI 2019.1.144 (a.k.a. 2019 update 1) [LATEST]
>
>- Intel MKL 2019.1.144 (a.k.a. 2019 update 1) [LATEST]
>
>=> Any positive/negative experiences with the latest version of the
> Intel tools, or any remarks that may be relevant to the version we pick
> for intel/2019a?
>
>
> I'm currently testing these foss/2019a and intel/2019a proposals with a
> bunch of existing easyconfigs using the */2018b equivalent.
>
> A couple of minor compilation problems popped up when compiling with
> GCC
> 8.2.0 (for HDF5, NASM, ...), but they were resolved trivially by simply
> updating to the latest version of these dependencies.
>
>
> The 2019a toolchain definitions will also be discussed during the
> EasyBuild conf call this Wednesday (Jan 9th).
>
>
>
> regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
> Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH
> 52425 Juelich
> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich
> Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498
> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher
> Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Wolfgang Marquardt (Vorsitzender),
> Karsten Beneke (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
> Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt
>
> 
>
> 
>
>

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Re: [easybuild] 2019a update of common toolchains

2019-01-07 Thread Alvarez, Damian
A word of caution regarding Intel MPI 2019: They changed a lot of things under 
the hood, and we have seen lots of issues in our systems on relatively large 
jobs (1.5K+ MPI processes). Basically most collective algorithms don't make it 
through. We have seen that on 2 different InfiniBand systems, I am unsure about 
OmniPath, or about the underlying cause (maybe libfabric issues?), but with 
Intel MPI 2018 we haven't seen them.

Best,
Damian

On 07.01.19, 16:37, "easybuild-requ...@lists.ugent.be on behalf of Kenneth 
Hoste"  
wrote:

Dear EasyBuilders,

By tradition at the start of the year, I have started looking at
updating the 'foss' and 'intel' common toolchains, currently for the
2019a update.
The plan is to include these in the upcoming EasyBuild v3.8.1 release,
which I hope to release in a couple of weeks.

Current proposals are:

* foss/2019a:
   (see https://github.com/easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs/pull/7371)

   - GCC 8.2.0 + binutils 2.31.1 [LATEST for both]

   - OpenMPI 3.1.3 (latest 3.x)

   - OpenBLAS 0.3.5 [LATEST]
 + ScaLAPACK 2.0.2 [LATEST]

- FFTW 3.3.8 [LATEST]

=> There also is OpenMPI 4.0.0, but we generally stay away from new
major version of a toolchain component for the common toolchains.

   Does anyone have a detailed view on how OpenMPI v4.0.0 compares
to v3.1.3, and whether or not we should consider v4.0.0?


* intel/2019a
   (see https://github.com/easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs/pull/7372)

   - Intel C/C++/Fortran compilers 2019.1.144  [LATEST]
 (a.k.a. 2019 update 1, a.k.a. 19.0.1.144 according to "icc -V")
 on top of GCC 8.2.0 + binutils 2.31.1

   - Intel MPI 2019.1.144 (a.k.a. 2019 update 1) [LATEST]

   - Intel MKL 2019.1.144 (a.k.a. 2019 update 1) [LATEST]

   => Any positive/negative experiences with the latest version of the
Intel tools, or any remarks that may be relevant to the version we pick
for intel/2019a?


I'm currently testing these foss/2019a and intel/2019a proposals with a
bunch of existing easyconfigs using the */2018b equivalent.

A couple of minor compilation problems popped up when compiling with GCC
8.2.0 (for HDF5, NASM, ...), but they were resolved trivially by simply
updating to the latest version of these dependencies.


The 2019a toolchain definitions will also be discussed during the
EasyBuild conf call this Wednesday (Jan 9th).



regards,

Kenneth






Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH
52425 Juelich
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich
Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher
Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Wolfgang Marquardt (Vorsitzender),
Karsten Beneke (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt





[easybuild] 2019a update of common toolchains

2019-01-07 Thread Kenneth Hoste

Dear EasyBuilders,

By tradition at the start of the year, I have started looking at 
updating the 'foss' and 'intel' common toolchains, currently for the 
2019a update.
The plan is to include these in the upcoming EasyBuild v3.8.1 release, 
which I hope to release in a couple of weeks.


Current proposals are:

* foss/2019a:
  (see https://github.com/easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs/pull/7371)

  - GCC 8.2.0 + binutils 2.31.1 [LATEST for both]

  - OpenMPI 3.1.3 (latest 3.x)

  - OpenBLAS 0.3.5 [LATEST]
+ ScaLAPACK 2.0.2 [LATEST]

   - FFTW 3.3.8 [LATEST]

   => There also is OpenMPI 4.0.0, but we generally stay away from new 
major version of a toolchain component for the common toolchains.


  Does anyone have a detailed view on how OpenMPI v4.0.0 compares 
to v3.1.3, and whether or not we should consider v4.0.0?



* intel/2019a
  (see https://github.com/easybuilders/easybuild-easyconfigs/pull/7372)

  - Intel C/C++/Fortran compilers 2019.1.144  [LATEST]
(a.k.a. 2019 update 1, a.k.a. 19.0.1.144 according to "icc -V")
on top of GCC 8.2.0 + binutils 2.31.1

  - Intel MPI 2019.1.144 (a.k.a. 2019 update 1) [LATEST]

  - Intel MKL 2019.1.144 (a.k.a. 2019 update 1) [LATEST]

  => Any positive/negative experiences with the latest version of the 
Intel tools, or any remarks that may be relevant to the version we pick 
for intel/2019a?



I'm currently testing these foss/2019a and intel/2019a proposals with a 
bunch of existing easyconfigs using the */2018b equivalent.


A couple of minor compilation problems popped up when compiling with GCC 
8.2.0 (for HDF5, NASM, ...), but they were resolved trivially by simply 
updating to the latest version of these dependencies.



The 2019a toolchain definitions will also be discussed during the 
EasyBuild conf call this Wednesday (Jan 9th).




regards,

Kenneth