Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

2008-04-20 Thread Phil Novack-Gottshall

Warren,

I don't know of any studies, but it sounds like an interesting 
topic.  With credit to Greg Wray, a fantastic bird example is the 
hoopoe, with the binomen Upupa epops, supposedly based on its bird-call.


Phil

At 04:21 PM 4/19/2008, you wrote:
Is anyone aware of a comprehensive study or report on the onomatopoeia of
animal names?

Of course their are obvious examples such as chickadee, crow, kookaburra,
katydid, cuckoo. And it seems there may be other less obvious examples in
English and other languages, e.g., duck, cow (Latin bos, German kuh),
titmouse (Scandinavian titt), pig (Latin sui), owl (Latin ulula).

I also remember running across a speculation that human language may have
first evolved as a means of communicating the presence of animals (imagine a
proto-hominid running back to his clan calling out Woo-woo = wolf = vulpe
= lobo).

And can you come up with other possible examples?

Warren W. Aney
Senior Wildlife Ecologist
Tigard, Oregon

~~
  Phil 
Novack-Gottshall[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



  Assistant Professor
  Department of Geosciences
  University of West Georgia
  Carrollton, GA 30118-3100
  Phone: 678-839-4061
  Fax: 678-839-4071
  http://www.westga.edu/~pnovackg
~~


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

2008-04-20 Thread Nancy E. Karraker
Hi Warren,
Two examples I can think of are kodok, which is the Indonesian word for frog,
probably representing the call of a common species. Wah with a rising tone is
the Cantonese word for frog, and I speculate represents the sound made by the
Asiatic painted frog, a common species in that region which emits a rising
bellow. 

Nancy

Quoting Phil Novack-Gottshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Warren,
 
 I don't know of any studies, but it sounds like an interesting 
 topic.  With credit to Greg Wray, a fantastic bird example is the 
 hoopoe, with the binomen Upupa epops, supposedly based on its bird-call.
 
 Phil
 
 At 04:21 PM 4/19/2008, you wrote:
 Is anyone aware of a comprehensive study or report on the onomatopoeia of
 animal names?
 
 Of course their are obvious examples such as chickadee, crow, kookaburra,
 katydid, cuckoo. And it seems there may be other less obvious examples in
 English and other languages, e.g., duck, cow (Latin bos, German kuh),
 titmouse (Scandinavian titt), pig (Latin sui), owl (Latin ulula).
 
 I also remember running across a speculation that human language may have
 first evolved as a means of communicating the presence of animals (imagine a
 proto-hominid running back to his clan calling out Woo-woo = wolf = vulpe
 = lobo).
 
 And can you come up with other possible examples?
 
 Warren W. Aney
 Senior Wildlife Ecologist
 Tigard, Oregon
 
 ~~
Phil 
 Novack-Gottshall[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
Assistant Professor
Department of Geosciences
University of West Georgia
Carrollton, GA 30118-3100
Phone: 678-839-4061
Fax: 678-839-4071
http://www.westga.edu/~pnovackg
 ~~
 


~~
Nancy E. Karraker, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Fellow
Division of Ecology and Biodiversity
University of Hong Kong
Pokfulam Road
Hong Kong, China 
Phone: +852-2299-0678
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

2008-04-20 Thread Carrie DeJaco
 How about the Puerto Rican coqui?

Carrie


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Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 11:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

Hi Warren,
Two examples I can think of are kodok, which is the Indonesian word
for frog, probably representing the call of a common species. Wah with
a rising tone is the Cantonese word for frog, and I speculate represents
the sound made by the Asiatic painted frog, a common species in that
region which emits a rising bellow. 

Nancy

Quoting Phil Novack-Gottshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Warren,
 
 I don't know of any studies, but it sounds like an interesting topic.

 With credit to Greg Wray, a fantastic bird example is the hoopoe, with

 the binomen Upupa epops, supposedly based on its bird-call.
 
 Phil
 
 At 04:21 PM 4/19/2008, you wrote:
 Is anyone aware of a comprehensive study or report on the onomatopoeia

 of animal names?
 
 Of course their are obvious examples such as chickadee, crow, 
 kookaburra, katydid, cuckoo. And it seems there may be other less 
 obvious examples in English and other languages, e.g., duck, cow 
 (Latin bos, German kuh), titmouse (Scandinavian titt), pig (Latin
sui), owl (Latin ulula).
 
 I also remember running across a speculation that human language may 
 have first evolved as a means of communicating the presence of animals

 (imagine a proto-hominid running back to his clan calling out 
 Woo-woo = wolf = vulpe = lobo).
 
 And can you come up with other possible examples?
 
 Warren W. Aney
 Senior Wildlife Ecologist
 Tigard, Oregon
 
 ~~
Phil 
 Novack-Gottshall[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
Assistant Professor
Department of Geosciences
University of West Georgia
Carrollton, GA 30118-3100
Phone: 678-839-4061
Fax: 678-839-4071
http://www.westga.edu/~pnovackg
 ~~
 


~~
Nancy E. Karraker, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Fellow
Division of Ecology and Biodiversity
University of Hong Kong
Pokfulam Road
Hong Kong, China
Phone: +852-2299-0678
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

2008-04-20 Thread Madhusudan Katti

Two examples from India immediately come to mind:

House Gecko - Hemidactylus frenatus - is known as Tiktiki in Bangla  
(or Bengali) language.
Tucktoo (local and English common name) - Gekko gecko - is another  
gecko found in Assam.


I'm sure I can remember plenty of other examples if I sit down and  
think about it for a while.


Madhu

On Apr 19, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Warren W. Aney wrote:

Is anyone aware of a comprehensive study or report on the  
onomatopoeia of

animal names?

Of course their are obvious examples such as chickadee, crow,  
kookaburra,
katydid, cuckoo. And it seems there may be other less obvious  
examples in

English and other languages, e.g., duck, cow (Latin bos, German kuh),
titmouse (Scandinavian titt), pig (Latin sui), owl (Latin ulula).

I also remember running across a speculation that human language may  
have
first evolved as a means of communicating the presence of animals  
(imagine a
proto-hominid running back to his clan calling out Woo-woo = wolf  
= vulpe

= lobo).

And can you come up with other possible examples?

Warren W. Aney
Senior Wildlife Ecologist
Tigard, Oregon


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Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

2008-04-20 Thread Emily R. Whitmer
There's also the Tokay gecko in SE Asia.  

- Original Message -
From: Carrie DeJaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:17:18 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

 How about the Puerto Rican coqui?

Carrie


-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy E. Karraker
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 11:58 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

Hi Warren,
Two examples I can think of are kodok, which is the Indonesian word
for frog, probably representing the call of a common species. Wah with
a rising tone is the Cantonese word for frog, and I speculate represents
the sound made by the Asiatic painted frog, a common species in that
region which emits a rising bellow. 

Nancy

Quoting Phil Novack-Gottshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Warren,
 
 I don't know of any studies, but it sounds like an interesting topic.

 With credit to Greg Wray, a fantastic bird example is the hoopoe, with

 the binomen Upupa epops, supposedly based on its bird-call.
 
 Phil
 
 At 04:21 PM 4/19/2008, you wrote:
 Is anyone aware of a comprehensive study or report on the onomatopoeia

 of animal names?
 
 Of course their are obvious examples such as chickadee, crow, 
 kookaburra, katydid, cuckoo. And it seems there may be other less 
 obvious examples in English and other languages, e.g., duck, cow 
 (Latin bos, German kuh), titmouse (Scandinavian titt), pig (Latin
sui), owl (Latin ulula).
 
 I also remember running across a speculation that human language may 
 have first evolved as a means of communicating the presence of animals

 (imagine a proto-hominid running back to his clan calling out 
 Woo-woo = wolf = vulpe = lobo).
 
 And can you come up with other possible examples?
 
 Warren W. Aney
 Senior Wildlife Ecologist
 Tigard, Oregon
 
 ~~
Phil 
 Novack-Gottshall[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
Assistant Professor
Department of Geosciences
University of West Georgia
Carrollton, GA 30118-3100
Phone: 678-839-4061
Fax: 678-839-4071
http://www.westga.edu/~pnovackg
 ~~
 


~~
Nancy E. Karraker, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Fellow
Division of Ecology and Biodiversity
University of Hong Kong
Pokfulam Road
Hong Kong, China
Phone: +852-2299-0678
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

2008-04-20 Thread Jane Shevtsov
The whippoorwill is another obvious one. Hmm... is this kind of naming most
common in birds?

Jane

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Emily R. Whitmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 There's also the Tokay gecko in SE Asia.

 - Original Message -
 From: Carrie DeJaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
 Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:17:18 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
 Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

  How about the Puerto Rican coqui?

 Carrie


 -Original Message-
 From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy E. Karraker
 Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 11:58 AM
 To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
 Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

 Hi Warren,
 Two examples I can think of are kodok, which is the Indonesian word
 for frog, probably representing the call of a common species. Wah with
 a rising tone is the Cantonese word for frog, and I speculate represents
 the sound made by the Asiatic painted frog, a common species in that
 region which emits a rising bellow.

 Nancy

 Quoting Phil Novack-Gottshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Warren,
 
  I don't know of any studies, but it sounds like an interesting topic.

  With credit to Greg Wray, a fantastic bird example is the hoopoe, with

  the binomen Upupa epops, supposedly based on its bird-call.
 
  Phil
 
  At 04:21 PM 4/19/2008, you wrote:
  Is anyone aware of a comprehensive study or report on the onomatopoeia

  of animal names?
 
  Of course their are obvious examples such as chickadee, crow,
  kookaburra, katydid, cuckoo. And it seems there may be other less
  obvious examples in English and other languages, e.g., duck, cow
  (Latin bos, German kuh), titmouse (Scandinavian titt), pig (Latin
 sui), owl (Latin ulula).
 
  I also remember running across a speculation that human language may
  have first evolved as a means of communicating the presence of animals

  (imagine a proto-hominid running back to his clan calling out
  Woo-woo = wolf = vulpe = lobo).
 
  And can you come up with other possible examples?
 
  Warren W. Aney
  Senior Wildlife Ecologist
  Tigard, Oregon
 
  ~~
 Phil
  Novack-Gottshall[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Assistant Professor
 Department of Geosciences
 University of West Georgia
 Carrollton, GA 30118-3100
 Phone: 678-839-4061
 Fax: 678-839-4071
 http://www.westga.edu/~pnovackg http://www.westga.edu/%7Epnovackg
  ~~
 


 ~~
 Nancy E. Karraker, Ph.D.
 Postdoctoral Fellow
 Division of Ecology and Biodiversity
 University of Hong Kong
 Pokfulam Road
 Hong Kong, China
 Phone: +852-2299-0678
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~




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Re: [ECOLOG-L] Onomatopoeia animal names

2008-04-20 Thread Ellen McRae
In Belizean Creole, the geckos Phylodactylus  Aristrelliger are known as 
karrech for the sound they produce. 
   
  Ellen McRae
  Caye Caulker
  Belize
  Central America
  

Madhusudan Katti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Two examples from India immediately come to mind:

House Gecko - Hemidactylus frenatus - is known as Tiktiki in Bangla 
(or Bengali) language.
Tucktoo (local and English common name) - Gekko gecko - is another 
gecko found in Assam.

I'm sure I can remember plenty of other examples if I sit down and 
think about it for a while.

Madhu

On Apr 19, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Warren W. Aney wrote:

 Is anyone aware of a comprehensive study or report on the 
 onomatopoeia of
 animal names?

 Of course their are obvious examples such as chickadee, crow, 
 kookaburra,
 katydid, cuckoo. And it seems there may be other less obvious 
 examples in
 English and other languages, e.g., duck, cow (Latin bos, German kuh),
 titmouse (Scandinavian titt), pig (Latin sui), owl (Latin ulula).

 I also remember running across a speculation that human language may 
 have
 first evolved as a means of communicating the presence of animals 
 (imagine a
 proto-hominid running back to his clan calling out Woo-woo = wolf 
 = vulpe
 = lobo).

 And can you come up with other possible examples?

 Warren W. Aney
 Senior Wildlife Ecologist
 Tigard, Oregon


   
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