Re: [ECOLOG-L] Wit at last? Re: [ECOLOG-L] 2013 ESA Annual Meeting: Call for Ignite ESA Proposals (Due Nov. 29th)

2012-09-27 Thread Jennifer Riem
Hi Wayne,

I'm glad to hear you like the idea. I think we're in agreement that slides can 
become more of a crutch than a tool for public speaking. One of the benefits of 
Ignite and similar styles (PechaKucha is another) is to step people away from 
over-reliance on slides and toward a more dynamic and engaging speaking style. 
Ignite is definitely intended to be less formal and higher energy than 
traditional presentations. There are some examples linked from the call page 
that demonstrate the format more effectively than I can describe by email. 

Slides are part of the standard Ignite format that we're adopting. The effect 
of the automatic slide advancement every 15 seconds is to make the slides more 
of a prompt and pacing mechanism for the speaker and less of a script. There's 
much less opportunity to use PowerPoint as a teleprompter. A speaker can't 
really read their slides to people at pace set by Ignite. Which means designing 
a slide that's a support for the points being made, not a duplication of them. 

We think this could be a good format for communicating the same kinds of 
science that are already presented more formally, but we're also hoping people 
will propose presentations focusing on ideas, problems, experiences, lessons 
learned, and so on, which wouldn't fit into a more formal presentation style 
and length. Much of the thought behind creating a new session type was prompted 
by hearing how much people really value the time they spend exchanging ideas 
outside of sessions, combined with an interest in seeing some shorter 
presentations types offered.

Jennifer

Jennifer Riem
Science Programs Coordinator
Ecological Society of America
jenni...@esa.org
202.833.8773 x 218

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Tyson [mailto:landr...@cox.net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:06 AM
To: Jennifer Riem; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Wit at last? Re: [ECOLOG-L] 2013 ESA Annual Meeting: Call for Ignite 
ESA Proposals (Due Nov. 29th)

Jennifer et y'all:

What a great idea! Any idea that can't be clearly explained (to your neighbor 
or grandmother) in five minutes may not be well enough worked out yet. Maybe 
y'all are just that much more talented than I am, but I'm still trying to 
summarize ideas that first occurred to me decades ago.

(But why slides? Have we become so dependent upon visuals that we can't 
understand the spoken word? And one every fifteen seconds? Gag me with a
spoon!)

Hmmm, maybe what y'all are doing is dropping the pretense of perfection that 
has weighed down academics for so long, and are just shotgunning a stream of 
consciousness and then retiring to the bar to slug out differences and build on 
each others ideas. Now, THAT I could go for!

WT

Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
I will be brief -- Polonius (Shakespeare's Hamlet)


- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Riem jenni...@esa.org
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:38 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] 2013 ESA Annual Meeting: Call for Ignite ESA Proposals 
(Due Nov. 29th)


Call for Proposals - New Session Type!
Ignite ESA Sessions
Deadline for Submission: November 29, 2012

98th Annual Meeting of the Ecological Society of America
Minneapolis, Minnesota
August 4-9, 2013
http://www.esa.org/minneapolis

We invite proposals for a new session type, Ignite ESA, which will debut 
during the 98th ESA Annual Meeting to be held August 4-9, 2013 in 
Minneapolis, Minnesota. http://www.esa.org/minneapolis/ignite.php

ABOUT IGNITE ESA SESSIONS

Ignite ESA is intended to stimulate the exchange of new and exciting ideas 
in a short time period. Ignite ESA Sessions will be scheduled for 1 hour and 
consist of up to 10 5-minute talks presented in the Ignite style 
(http://igniteshow.com/) which address a common theme. Each Ignite talk will 
feature 20 slides that advance automatically every 15 seconds. Although 
there will be no time during the session for questions and answers, there 
will be a dedicated space nearby where presenters and attendees will be 
encouraged to gather for extended discussion immediately following each 
session.
Each session should be organized around a general theme that is related to 
the advancement of ecology, either conceptually or technologically. These 
sessions will provide an opportunity for ecologists to share information 
with their colleagues that would not fit into the usual session types. The 
more concise speaking slot and quick slide transitions lend themselves to a 
more conversational and storytelling presentation style. Given 5 minutes to 
speak and brief visual aids, what would you share with other ecologists? 
What would you most like to learn from your colleagues?
The One Presentation Rule does not apply to Ignite ESA talks. Speakers may 
speak in an Ignite session in addition to a traditional presentation 
elsewhere in the program. We ask that speakers not commit to more

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Wit at last? Re: [ECOLOG-L] 2013 ESA Annual Meeting: Call for Ignite ESA Proposals (Due Nov. 29th)

2012-09-27 Thread Wayne Tyson

Hi Jennifer,

Good luck with it! It doesn't have to be perfect; in fact, it's appeal 
lies in its imperfection.


I like the restriction to five minutes part, but slides drive me nuts, and a 
regular spacing of every 15 seconds would drive me to distraction. I'd 
rather look at the speaker.


I think the name and the type of presentation are far less important 
than the substance of the ideas themselves. And I would hope that the ideas 
would be challenging ones, not just self-conscious dribbling of ecological 
jargon and pretension.


I would hope that speakers would be directly challenged in the post-session 
sessions and the speakers given time to further explain their ideas in 
rebuttal or in agreement with the criticism.


Even though I have given up going to meetings, I wish I could go to your 
sessions and the follow-ups. Maybe produce a video of the whole 
thing--especially including the bar room brawls. Reality show?


WT

- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Riem jenni...@esa.org

To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Wit at last? Re: [ECOLOG-L] 2013 ESA Annual Meeting: 
Call for Ignite ESA Proposals (Due Nov. 29th)



Hi Wayne,

I'm glad to hear you like the idea. I think we're in agreement that slides 
can become more of a crutch than a tool for public speaking. One of the 
benefits of Ignite and similar styles (PechaKucha is another) is to step 
people away from over-reliance on slides and toward a more dynamic and 
engaging speaking style. Ignite is definitely intended to be less formal and 
higher energy than traditional presentations. There are some examples linked 
from the call page that demonstrate the format more effectively than I can 
describe by email.


Slides are part of the standard Ignite format that we're adopting. The 
effect of the automatic slide advancement every 15 seconds is to make the 
slides more of a prompt and pacing mechanism for the speaker and less of a 
script. There's much less opportunity to use PowerPoint as a teleprompter. A 
speaker can't really read their slides to people at pace set by Ignite. 
Which means designing a slide that's a support for the points being made, 
not a duplication of them.


We think this could be a good format for communicating the same kinds of 
science that are already presented more formally, but we're also hoping 
people will propose presentations focusing on ideas, problems, experiences, 
lessons learned, and so on, which wouldn't fit into a more formal 
presentation style and length. Much of the thought behind creating a new 
session type was prompted by hearing how much people really value the time 
they spend exchanging ideas outside of sessions, combined with an interest 
in seeing some shorter presentations types offered.


Jennifer

Jennifer Riem
Science Programs Coordinator
Ecological Society of America
jenni...@esa.org
202.833.8773 x 218

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Tyson [mailto:landr...@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:06 AM
To: Jennifer Riem; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Wit at last? Re: [ECOLOG-L] 2013 ESA Annual Meeting: Call for 
Ignite ESA Proposals (Due Nov. 29th)


Jennifer et y'all:

What a great idea! Any idea that can't be clearly explained (to your 
neighbor or grandmother) in five minutes may not be well enough worked out 
yet. Maybe y'all are just that much more talented than I am, but I'm still 
trying to summarize ideas that first occurred to me decades ago.


(But why slides? Have we become so dependent upon visuals that we can't 
understand the spoken word? And one every fifteen seconds? Gag me with a

spoon!)

Hmmm, maybe what y'all are doing is dropping the pretense of perfection that 
has weighed down academics for so long, and are just shotgunning a stream of 
consciousness and then retiring to the bar to slug out differences and build 
on each others ideas. Now, THAT I could go for!


WT

Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
I will be brief -- Polonius (Shakespeare's Hamlet)


- Original Message - 
From: Jennifer Riem jenni...@esa.org

To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:38 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] 2013 ESA Annual Meeting: Call for Ignite ESA Proposals
(Due Nov. 29th)


Call for Proposals - New Session Type!
Ignite ESA Sessions
Deadline for Submission: November 29, 2012

98th Annual Meeting of the Ecological Society of America
Minneapolis, Minnesota
August 4-9, 2013
http://www.esa.org/minneapolis

We invite proposals for a new session type, Ignite ESA, which will debut
during the 98th ESA Annual Meeting to be held August 4-9, 2013 in
Minneapolis, Minnesota. http://www.esa.org/minneapolis/ignite.php

ABOUT IGNITE ESA SESSIONS

Ignite ESA is intended to stimulate the exchange of new and exciting ideas
in a short time period. Ignite ESA Sessions will be scheduled for 1 hour and
consist of up to 10 5