Re: Minitab vs. JMP

2000-09-04 Thread Vincent Vinh-Hung

I've used JMP 3.2 mainly for survival analysis,
very recently upgraded to JMP 4,
performance degradation of the survival module was
very disturbing.
File 162541 records, stratification variable 6 levels,
Kaplan-Meier procedure (univariate analysis),
display separately one graph for each of the levels.

JMP 3.2:
Run procedure Summary table = 13 seconds
Click to turn By_mode ON = 18 seconds (my eyes aren't very good)
Run procedure Survival, from start click on command to
final display = 5 seconds
Total time required by JMP 3.2 = 36 seconds.

JMP 4:
Did not require to run Summary table, less mouse clicks.
From start selecting Survival to final display
total time required by JMP 4 = 21 minutes.

I haven't looked at other procedures.
I've no experience of Minitab.

Vincent

Ken wrote:
 
 Although I am currently a full time user of Minitab, I used JMP 3.x for 3 years
 before moving to Minitab.
 
 I would like to hear comments from users of JMP 4.0 comparing it to JMP 3 and maybe
 Minitab 13. What do you think of the changes?
 
 I'd also like to hear other Minitab vs JMP comments. What are your thoughts?
 
 Ken


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Re: Logistic Regression

2000-09-04 Thread Gary Winkel

Hi Ms. Howser

Aside from the Hosmer and Lemeshow reference,  an even more instructive
beginning can be found in:

David Kleinbaum.  Logistic Regression: A Self-Learning Text.  Springer 
Publications, 1994.

Regards,

Gary Winkel

On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 22:56:26 - "Jennifer Howser"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hi everyone,
 
 My background is not statistics.  I finished the first 2 levels of 
 general
 statistics.  I would like to purchase a logistic regression to learn 
 on my
 own.  I am looking for a book that is relatively easy to start with. 
  If you
 have any recommendation, I really appreciate.
 
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
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Re: Logistic Regression

2000-09-04 Thread Middleton Sue

Jennifer Howser wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 My background is not statistics.  I finished the first 2 levels of general
 statistics.  I would like to purchase a logistic regression to learn on my
 own.  I am looking for a book that is relatively easy to start with.  If you
 have any recommendation, I really appreciate.

 Thanks

you cant go past
david kleinbaum's
logistic regression: a self learning text
sue



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Re: Skewness and Kurtosis Questions

2000-09-04 Thread Gary McClelland

in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], christopher.mecklin at
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 Ronny,
 Kurtosis is poorly defined in almost every elementary stat textbook around.
 "Tailedness" and "peakedness" are both components of kurtosis.  It is
 impossible to adequately explain kurtosis with just one component.  A good
 reference that discusses this in much more detail is:
 DeCarlo, L.T.  (1997).  "On the meaning and use of kurtosis".  Psychological
 Methods, 2, 292-307.

I'm joining this thread late but i have to make a couple of comments:

1.  the DeCarlo article is excellent; read it.  why so many (including some
of this thread) is confused about kurtosis is because most textbooks
illustrate kurtosis with figures that vary not only kurtosis but also
variance. if you control the variance to be the same and only vary kurtosis,
the pictures look rather different and don't seem to have much to do with
the peak.

2.  in any discussion of the comparison of means and medians i have to throw
in that wonderful fact that the mean and median can be at most one standard
deviation apart.  one of those lovely results that makes theoretical
statistics so much fun.

gary 
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