Re: garch residuals

2002-02-21 Thread dave fournier

I would fit the data with various (r,p) arma models with the
the desired garch assumption on the evolution of the variance
and consider both the likelihood ratios and autocorrelation
of the standardized residuals to determine the best model
to fit the data. I have code for this if you want (although it is
for multivariate problems and so is inefficient for univariariate garch.)

  Dave
Daan Taks wrote:

 I have a question about my residuals. When testing for autocorrelation
 I come to the conclusion that the models (garch, Egarch, GJR a.k.a.
 Tarch) remove the correlation from the squared standardized residuals
 but not from the standardized residuals. Are my models misspecified??
 I use returns from the FTSE, the DAX, and the SP. These returns are
 (heavily) correlated, should a garch model remove the correlation of
 the returns? Or should it only remove the correlation of the squared
 returns??
 Thanks.

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Re: garch residuals

2002-02-19 Thread Vadim and Oxana Marmer

Stock market returns usually satisfy martingale property, and are
uncorrelated. I think you should check your calculations again for errors.
Are you sure that you are working with returns and not prices? I guess
that by heavy correlation you mean that estimated autoregressive
coefficient is close to 1, which holds for prices. Just a suggestion, hope
it helps.




On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Daan Taks wrote:

 I have a question about my residuals. When testing for autocorrelation
 I come to the conclusion that the models (garch, Egarch, GJR a.k.a.
 Tarch) remove the correlation from the squared standardized residuals
 but not from the standardized residuals. Are my models misspecified??
 I use returns from the FTSE, the DAX, and the SP. These returns are
 (heavily) correlated, should a garch model remove the correlation of
 the returns? Or should it only remove the correlation of the squared
 returns??
 Thanks.






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Re: garch residuals

2002-02-19 Thread Eric Zivot

That stock market returns follow a Martingale in general has been pretty
well disproved. See the survey literature in The Econometrics of Financial
Markets by Campbell, Lo and MacKinlay and A Non-Random Walk down wall street
by Andrew Lo. Index returns show quite significant lag correlations which
can be attributed to significant lead/lag correlations between individual
stocks in the index. It is quite common in GARCH modeling to account for
short lag correlations by including MA terms in the mean equation before
fitting the variance.
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 Stock market returns usually satisfy martingale property, and are
 uncorrelated. I think you should check your calculations again for errors.
 Are you sure that you are working with returns and not prices? I guess
 that by heavy correlation you mean that estimated autoregressive
 coefficient is close to 1, which holds for prices. Just a suggestion, hope
 it helps.




 On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Daan Taks wrote:

  I have a question about my residuals. When testing for autocorrelation
  I come to the conclusion that the models (garch, Egarch, GJR a.k.a.
  Tarch) remove the correlation from the squared standardized residuals
  but not from the standardized residuals. Are my models misspecified??
  I use returns from the FTSE, the DAX, and the SP. These returns are
  (heavily) correlated, should a garch model remove the correlation of
  the returns? Or should it only remove the correlation of the squared
  returns??
  Thanks.
 
 







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Re: garch residuals

2002-02-19 Thread Clint Cummins

Daan Taks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a question about my residuals. When testing for autocorrelation
I come to the conclusion that the models (garch, Egarch, GJR a.k.a.
Tarch) remove the correlation from the squared standardized residuals
but not from the standardized residuals.
Just standardizing residuals should not remove the autocorrelation
from them.  That would require some kind of filtering.
Even filtering might not remove all autocorrelation.
For example, in an AR(1) model estimated with conditional ML,
the filtered residual is e = u - rho*u(-1)  .
The numerator of the first order autocorrelation
of the filtered residual is  (u - rho*u(-1))'(u(-1) - rho*u(-2)).
The first order condition for estimating rho is
(u - rho*u(-1))'u(-1) = 0.  This is not enough to make the numerator
of the first order autocorrelation zero (it doesn't handle the
rho*u(-2) part).

Are my models misspecified??
It's not possible to say, just on the basis of this.

I use returns from the FTSE, the DAX, and the SP. These returns are
(heavily) correlated, should a garch model remove the correlation of
the returns? Or should it only remove the correlation of the squared
returns??
This is a different question (unless there are no RHS variables),
since presumably you are talking about the dependent variable in the
model, and not the residual.

Clint Cummins
TSP International



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