Re: [Edu-sig] Question about certifying teachers

[Wes Turner]

LMS / LRS Specs:
- xAPI/TinCan
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_API
- SCORM
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharable_Content_Object_Reference_Model

Interactive content specs

- H5P
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5P
  https://h5p.org
  https://h5p.org/documentation/developers/h5p-specification

- xBlock (edX)
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBlock
  https://github.com/edX/XBlock
  https://open.edx.org/marketplace-all/

  - https://github.com/edx/cookiecutter-xblock

> This is a cookiecutter template for new XBlocks.
> It enables creation of the XBlock repository as well as a Dockerfile
for building and running your XBlock in the xblock-sdk workbench.

  - https://github.com/ibleducation/jupyter-edx-grader-xblock

> Auto-grade a student assignment created as a Jupyter notebook, using
the nbgrader Jupyter extension, and write the score in the Open edX
gradebook



- [ ] "H5P as an Open Edx XBlock extension"
  https://h5p.org/node/32382


H5P / XBlock <-> LMS / CMS <-> Credential Store


LMS
  Learning Management System
LRS
  Learning Record Store

Credential Store, Repository
  See https://w3c.github.io/vc-data-model/#use-cases-and-requirements for
normative language
  - Badgr (SQL database maintained by: ___)
- https://OpenBadges.org
- https://openbadges.org/about/participating-issuers/
  - Badgr
  - blockchain (replicated immutable datastore)
- https://blockcerts.org/ (W3C Verifiable Claims)

>From https://www.blockcerts.org/guide/roadmap.html :

> Verifiable Claims is a lightweight format for expressing a
cryptographically verifiable claim across many different use cases.
Blockcerts and Open Badges are working towards expressing Open Badges
assertions as a Verifiable Claim.
> This approach will expand (even further) the interoperability that exists
within the Open Badge ecosystem.

On Friday, January 25, 2019, Wes Turner  wrote:

> OpenBadges
>
> https://openbadges.org/get-started/issuing-badges/
>
> > Open Badges provide a flexible way to recognize learning wherever it
> happens, in and out of formal education and the workplace. They can
> represent any achievement from simple participation to evidence-backed
> competency development.
>
> > By adopting the Open Badges Specification you are joining over 3,000
> organizations across the world who believe in supporting a global
> Specification that enables individuals to capture and share the richer
> picture of who they are.
>
> edX supports Badgr (OpenBadges)
>
> - OpenBadges Backpack is now Badgr
> - https://badgr.com
> - https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-server (Django API)
> - https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-ui (Angular 2 UI)
> - https://edx.readthedocs.io/projects/edx-installing-
> configuring-and-running/en/latest/configuration/enable_badging.html
> - https://github.com/edx/credentials
>
>
> Blockcerts (W3C Verifiable Claims)
>
> - https://www.blockcerts.org/guide/roadmap.html
>   - [ ] OpenBadges Verifiable Claims compatibility
>
> - https://github.com/w3c/verifiable-claims
>   - https://w3c.github.io/vc-data-model/
>   - https://w3c.github.io/vc-use-cases/#education
>
>
> ... https://gist.github.com/westurner/4345987bb29fca700f52163c339a270f
>
>
> On Thursday, January 24, 2019, kirby urner  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Charles (fond memories from Google App Engine days... we met at a
>> Pycon in Chicago years ago)...
>>
>> Issuing some proof of completion, in certificate form (an actual document
>> with their name on it, could be PDF) helps your enrollees put something on
>> their resume.  The other half of that equation is not a big name school or
>> company, though that might help, so much as a detailed course outline
>> and/or the actual course content, or both -- such that those following up
>> on this credential get a sense of what it means.
>>
>> What did these students actually work through?  Were there projects?
>> Quizzes.  Describing the program helps too (including with recruiting new
>> enrollees).
>>
>> When O'Reilly School of Technology closed its doors, I was clear that the
>> best way to support our alumni was to preserve a record of what we offered,
>> so those advertising completing our courses could point to something
>> objective, in terms of content covered.  OST listened and our content is
>> still online to this day.
>>
>> Example pages:
>>
>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/programs.html
>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/courses.html
>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/Python1/index.html
>>
>> We show our quizzes, but not our projects, not sure why at this point.
>>
>> Students had to finish all the projects, which were assessed by their
>> human instructors.  We had no robo-grading whatsoever, not even for
>> quizzes, as we wanted them to know they had a real human on the other end.
>>
>> Of course a lot of the code camp type websites don't provide actual
>> instructors to sign off on work, as you know.  They may have students
>> 

Re: [Edu-sig] Question about certifying teachers

[Santiago Basulto]

I'm against certificates as a money making machine (think Cisco). I'd be
great to provide a free (or very cheap) certificates that fulfill its duty
(endorse the knowledge and up-to-date status of the teacher) keeping it
open and accessible. One option I'm thinking is peer-reviewed certificates.
It could be a "cheap" alternative, with all the benefits of having real
eyes on a teacher's evaluation.

As a side note, we provide free training for teachers at RMOTR
. We haven't advertised it much yet, we're working on
the terms. But if anyone knows high school teachers that want to learn
Python please give them my email address.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 9:08 AM Jeff Elkner  wrote:

> Great discussion, and thanks for kicking it off, Dr. Chuck!
>
> To be "relevant" to teachers, whatever scheme you devise should fit easily
> into the re-certification process teachers go through to maintain their
> licenses to teach.  The problem in the US is that there are 50 different
> processes to deal with.
>
> If you do settle on something, I'd be glad to see how it maps to the
> re-certification process in Virginia.
>
> Jeff Elkner
> Arlington Public Schools
> Arlington, Virginia
>
> Let's work together to create a just and sustainable world!
>
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Friday, January 25, 2019 5:25 AM, Stephen Murphy <
> stephen.murph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> This area is very relevant in Ireland at the moment with our new upper
> high school computer science subject being introduced.
>
> I was wondering would someone on this list like to write a short article
> on their experiences with the above topic for the Computer Science
> Teachers' Association of Ireland (CSTAI) monthly magazine?
>
> Your insights and advice would be greatly appreciated by the teachers here
> and might encourage them to uptake some CPD courses.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Stephen
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 6:49 AM Wes Turner  wrote:
>
>> OpenBadges
>>
>> https://openbadges.org/get-started/issuing-badges/
>>
>> > Open Badges provide a flexible way to recognize learning wherever it
>> happens, in and out of formal education and the workplace. They can
>> represent any achievement from simple participation to evidence-backed
>> competency development.
>>
>> > By adopting the Open Badges Specification you are joining over 3,000
>> organizations across the world who believe in supporting a global
>> Specification that enables individuals to capture and share the richer
>> picture of who they are.
>>
>> edX supports Badgr (OpenBadges)
>>
>> - OpenBadges Backpack is now Badgr
>> - https://badgr.com
>> - https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-server (Django API)
>> - https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-ui (Angular 2 UI)
>> -
>> https://edx.readthedocs.io/projects/edx-installing-configuring-and-running/en/latest/configuration/enable_badging.html
>> - https://github.com/edx/credentials
>>
>>
>> Blockcerts (W3C Verifiable Claims)
>>
>> - https://www.blockcerts.org/guide/roadmap.html
>>   - [ ] OpenBadges Verifiable Claims compatibility
>>
>> - https://github.com/w3c/verifiable-claims
>>   - https://w3c.github.io/vc-data-model/
>>   - https://w3c.github.io/vc-use-cases/#education
>>
>>
>> ... https://gist.github.com/westurner/4345987bb29fca700f52163c339a270f
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019, kirby urner  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Charles (fond memories from Google App Engine days... we met at a
>>> Pycon in Chicago years ago)...
>>>
>>> Issuing some proof of completion, in certificate form (an actual
>>> document with their name on it, could be PDF) helps your enrollees put
>>> something on their resume.  The other half of that equation is not a big
>>> name school or company, though that might help, so much as a detailed
>>> course outline and/or the actual course content, or both -- such that those
>>> following up on this credential get a sense of what it means.
>>>
>>> What did these students actually work through?  Were there projects?
>>> Quizzes.  Describing the program helps too (including with recruiting new
>>> enrollees).
>>>
>>> When O'Reilly School of Technology closed its doors, I was clear that
>>> the best way to support our alumni was to preserve a record of what we
>>> offered, so those advertising completing our courses could point to
>>> something objective, in terms of content covered.  OST listened and our
>>> content is still online to this day.
>>>
>>> Example pages:
>>>
>>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/programs.html
>>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/courses.html
>>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/Python1/index.html
>>>
>>> We show our quizzes, but not our projects, not sure why at this point.
>>>
>>> Students had to finish all the projects, which were assessed by their
>>> human instructors.  We had no robo-grading whatsoever, not even for
>>> quizzes, as we wanted them to know they had a real human on the other end.
>>>
>>> Of 

Re: [Edu-sig] Question about certifying teachers

[Jeff Elkner]

Great discussion, and thanks for kicking it off, Dr. Chuck!

To be "relevant" to teachers, whatever scheme you devise should fit easily into 
the re-certification process teachers go through to maintain their licenses to 
teach.  The problem in the US is that there are 50 different processes to deal 
with.

If you do settle on something, I'd be glad to see how it maps to the 
re-certification process in Virginia.

Jeff Elkner
Arlington Public Schools
Arlington, Virginia

Let's work together to create a just and sustainable world!

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Friday, January 25, 2019 5:25 AM, Stephen Murphy 
 wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> This area is very relevant in Ireland at the moment with our new upper high 
> school computer science subject being introduced.
>
> I was wondering would someone on this list like to write a short article on 
> their experiences with the above topic for the Computer Science Teachers' 
> Association of Ireland (CSTAI) monthly magazine?
>
> Your insights and advice would be greatly appreciated by the teachers here 
> and might encourage them to uptake some CPD courses.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Stephen
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 6:49 AM Wes Turner  wrote:
>
>> OpenBadges
>>
>> https://openbadges.org/get-started/issuing-badges/
>>
>>> Open Badges provide a flexible way to recognize learning wherever it 
>>> happens, in and out of formal education and the workplace. They can 
>>> represent any achievement from simple participation to evidence-backed 
>>> competency development.
>>
>>> By adopting the Open Badges Specification you are joining over 3,000 
>>> organizations across the world who believe in supporting a global 
>>> Specification that enables individuals to capture and share the richer 
>>> picture of who they are.
>>
>> edX supports Badgr (OpenBadges)
>>
>> - OpenBadges Backpack is now Badgr
>> - https://badgr.com
>> - https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-server (Django API)
>> - https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-ui (Angular 2 UI)
>> - 
>> https://edx.readthedocs.io/projects/edx-installing-configuring-and-running/en/latest/configuration/enable_badging.html
>> - https://github.com/edx/credentials
>>
>> Blockcerts (W3C Verifiable Claims)
>>
>> - https://www.blockcerts.org/guide/roadmap.html
>>   - [ ] OpenBadges Verifiable Claims compatibility
>>
>> - https://github.com/w3c/verifiable-claims
>>   - https://w3c.github.io/vc-data-model/
>>   - https://w3c.github.io/vc-use-cases/#education
>>
>> ... https://gist.github.com/westurner/4345987bb29fca700f52163c339a270f
>>
>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019, kirby urner  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Charles (fond memories from Google App Engine days... we met at a Pycon 
>>> in Chicago years ago)...
>>>
>>> Issuing some proof of completion, in certificate form (an actual document 
>>> with their name on it, could be PDF) helps your enrollees put something on 
>>> their resume.  The other half of that equation is not a big name school or 
>>> company, though that might help, so much as a detailed course outline 
>>> and/or the actual course content, or both -- such that those following up 
>>> on this credential get a sense of what it means.
>>>
>>> What did these students actually work through?  Were there projects?  
>>> Quizzes.  Describing the program helps too (including with recruiting new 
>>> enrollees).
>>>
>>> When O'Reilly School of Technology closed its doors, I was clear that the 
>>> best way to support our alumni was to preserve a record of what we offered, 
>>> so those advertising completing our courses could point to something 
>>> objective, in terms of content covered.  OST listened and our content is 
>>> still online to this day.
>>>
>>> Example pages:
>>>
>>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/programs.html
>>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/courses.html
>>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/Python1/index.html
>>>
>>> We show our quizzes, but not our projects, not sure why at this point.
>>>
>>> Students had to finish all the projects, which were assessed by their human 
>>> instructors.  We had no robo-grading whatsoever, not even for quizzes, as 
>>> we wanted them to know they had a real human on the other end.
>>>
>>> Of course a lot of the code camp type websites don't provide actual 
>>> instructors to sign off on work, as you know.  They may have students 
>>> aseess each other (or not), ala Coursera, which, in combination with 
>>> deadlines, means not everyone who starts, manages to finish.
>>>
>>> Attrition stats may or may not be relevant in your case.  If they got a 
>>> credential for just showing up (attendance), that's of course not as 
>>> impressive, so you do your students a favor by advertising the rigors of 
>>> your offerings.
>>>
>>> Kirby
>>
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Re: [Edu-sig] Question about certifying teachers

[Stephen Murphy]

Hello all,

This area is very relevant in Ireland at the moment with our new upper high
school computer science subject being introduced.

I was wondering would someone on this list like to write a short article on
their experiences with the above topic for the Computer Science Teachers'
Association of Ireland (CSTAI) monthly magazine?

Your insights and advice would be greatly appreciated by the teachers here
and might encourage them to uptake some CPD courses.

Best wishes,

Stephen

On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 6:49 AM Wes Turner  wrote:

> OpenBadges
>
> https://openbadges.org/get-started/issuing-badges/
>
> > Open Badges provide a flexible way to recognize learning wherever it
> happens, in and out of formal education and the workplace. They can
> represent any achievement from simple participation to evidence-backed
> competency development.
>
> > By adopting the Open Badges Specification you are joining over 3,000
> organizations across the world who believe in supporting a global
> Specification that enables individuals to capture and share the richer
> picture of who they are.
>
> edX supports Badgr (OpenBadges)
>
> - OpenBadges Backpack is now Badgr
> - https://badgr.com
> - https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-server (Django API)
> - https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-ui (Angular 2 UI)
> -
> https://edx.readthedocs.io/projects/edx-installing-configuring-and-running/en/latest/configuration/enable_badging.html
> - https://github.com/edx/credentials
>
>
> Blockcerts (W3C Verifiable Claims)
>
> - https://www.blockcerts.org/guide/roadmap.html
>   - [ ] OpenBadges Verifiable Claims compatibility
>
> - https://github.com/w3c/verifiable-claims
>   - https://w3c.github.io/vc-data-model/
>   - https://w3c.github.io/vc-use-cases/#education
>
>
> ... https://gist.github.com/westurner/4345987bb29fca700f52163c339a270f
>
>
> On Thursday, January 24, 2019, kirby urner  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Charles (fond memories from Google App Engine days... we met at a
>> Pycon in Chicago years ago)...
>>
>> Issuing some proof of completion, in certificate form (an actual document
>> with their name on it, could be PDF) helps your enrollees put something on
>> their resume.  The other half of that equation is not a big name school or
>> company, though that might help, so much as a detailed course outline
>> and/or the actual course content, or both -- such that those following up
>> on this credential get a sense of what it means.
>>
>> What did these students actually work through?  Were there projects?
>> Quizzes.  Describing the program helps too (including with recruiting new
>> enrollees).
>>
>> When O'Reilly School of Technology closed its doors, I was clear that the
>> best way to support our alumni was to preserve a record of what we offered,
>> so those advertising completing our courses could point to something
>> objective, in terms of content covered.  OST listened and our content is
>> still online to this day.
>>
>> Example pages:
>>
>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/programs.html
>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/courses.html
>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/Python1/index.html
>>
>> We show our quizzes, but not our projects, not sure why at this point.
>>
>> Students had to finish all the projects, which were assessed by their
>> human instructors.  We had no robo-grading whatsoever, not even for
>> quizzes, as we wanted them to know they had a real human on the other end.
>>
>> Of course a lot of the code camp type websites don't provide actual
>> instructors to sign off on work, as you know.  They may have students
>> aseess each other (or not), ala Coursera, which, in combination with
>> deadlines, means not everyone who starts, manages to finish.
>>
>> Attrition stats may or may not be relevant in your case.  If they got a
>> credential for just showing up (attendance), that's of course not as
>> impressive, so you do your students a favor by advertising the rigors of
>> your offerings.
>>
>> Kirby
>>
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Re: [Edu-sig] Question about certifying teachers

[Wes Turner]

OpenBadges

https://openbadges.org/get-started/issuing-badges/

> Open Badges provide a flexible way to recognize learning wherever it
happens, in and out of formal education and the workplace. They can
represent any achievement from simple participation to evidence-backed
competency development.

> By adopting the Open Badges Specification you are joining over 3,000
organizations across the world who believe in supporting a global
Specification that enables individuals to capture and share the richer
picture of who they are.

edX supports Badgr (OpenBadges)

- OpenBadges Backpack is now Badgr
- https://badgr.com
- https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-server (Django API)
- https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-ui (Angular 2 UI)
-
https://edx.readthedocs.io/projects/edx-installing-configuring-and-running/en/latest/configuration/enable_badging.html
- https://github.com/edx/credentials


Blockcerts (W3C Verifiable Claims)

- https://www.blockcerts.org/guide/roadmap.html
  - [ ] OpenBadges Verifiable Claims compatibility

- https://github.com/w3c/verifiable-claims
  - https://w3c.github.io/vc-data-model/
  - https://w3c.github.io/vc-use-cases/#education


... https://gist.github.com/westurner/4345987bb29fca700f52163c339a270f


On Thursday, January 24, 2019, kirby urner  wrote:

>
> Hi Charles (fond memories from Google App Engine days... we met at a Pycon
> in Chicago years ago)...
>
> Issuing some proof of completion, in certificate form (an actual document
> with their name on it, could be PDF) helps your enrollees put something on
> their resume.  The other half of that equation is not a big name school or
> company, though that might help, so much as a detailed course outline
> and/or the actual course content, or both -- such that those following up
> on this credential get a sense of what it means.
>
> What did these students actually work through?  Were there projects?
> Quizzes.  Describing the program helps too (including with recruiting new
> enrollees).
>
> When O'Reilly School of Technology closed its doors, I was clear that the
> best way to support our alumni was to preserve a record of what we offered,
> so those advertising completing our courses could point to something
> objective, in terms of content covered.  OST listened and our content is
> still online to this day.
>
> Example pages:
>
> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/programs.html
> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/courses.html
> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/Python1/index.html
>
> We show our quizzes, but not our projects, not sure why at this point.
>
> Students had to finish all the projects, which were assessed by their
> human instructors.  We had no robo-grading whatsoever, not even for
> quizzes, as we wanted them to know they had a real human on the other end.
>
> Of course a lot of the code camp type websites don't provide actual
> instructors to sign off on work, as you know.  They may have students
> aseess each other (or not), ala Coursera, which, in combination with
> deadlines, means not everyone who starts, manages to finish.
>
> Attrition stats may or may not be relevant in your case.  If they got a
> credential for just showing up (attendance), that's of course not as
> impressive, so you do your students a favor by advertising the rigors of
> your offerings.
>
> Kirby
>
>
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Re: [Edu-sig] Question about certifying teachers

[kirby urner]

Hi Charles (fond memories from Google App Engine days... we met at a Pycon
in Chicago years ago)...

Issuing some proof of completion, in certificate form (an actual document
with their name on it, could be PDF) helps your enrollees put something on
their resume.  The other half of that equation is not a big name school or
company, though that might help, so much as a detailed course outline
and/or the actual course content, or both -- such that those following up
on this credential get a sense of what it means.

What did these students actually work through?  Were there projects?
Quizzes.  Describing the program helps too (including with recruiting new
enrollees).

When O'Reilly School of Technology closed its doors, I was clear that the
best way to support our alumni was to preserve a record of what we offered,
so those advertising completing our courses could point to something
objective, in terms of content covered.  OST listened and our content is
still online to this day.

Example pages:

http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/programs.html
http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/courses.html
http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/Python1/index.html

We show our quizzes, but not our projects, not sure why at this point.

Students had to finish all the projects, which were assessed by their human
instructors.  We had no robo-grading whatsoever, not even for quizzes, as
we wanted them to know they had a real human on the other end.

Of course a lot of the code camp type websites don't provide actual
instructors to sign off on work, as you know.  They may have students
aseess each other (or not), ala Coursera, which, in combination with
deadlines, means not everyone who starts, manages to finish.

Attrition stats may or may not be relevant in your case.  If they got a
credential for just showing up (attendance), that's of course not as
impressive, so you do your students a favor by advertising the rigors of
your offerings.

Kirby
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Re: [Edu-sig] Question about certifying teachers

[Nicholas H.Tollervey]

I'm currently working on this: https://codegrades.com/

This is still very early stages.

N.

On 25/01/2019 01:35, Charles Severance wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am working with a group of college professors at small schools and
> developing a program to help them teach programming to non-programmers. 
> One aspect of this is to provide training for the teachers.   It might
> be cool to invent a certificate to give them after they complete training.
> 
> I wonder if there is a common approach to issuing certificates to
> teachers as they do professional development and gain skills.
> 
> This is in the USA and there might be several hundred teachers - it
> would not be worth creating a company to issue these certificates.  It
> would be best if there was some general certificate approach and/or
> infrastructure that I could tap into.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> /Charles Severance
> 
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[Edu-sig] Question about certifying teachers

[Charles Severance]

Hi all,

I am working with a group of college professors at small schools and 
developing a program to help them teach programming to non-programmers.  
One aspect of this is to provide training for the teachers.   It might 
be cool to invent a certificate to give them after they complete training.


I wonder if there is a common approach to issuing certificates to 
teachers as they do professional development and gain skills.


This is in the USA and there might be several hundred teachers - it 
would not be worth creating a company to issue these certificates.  It 
would be best if there was some general certificate approach and/or 
infrastructure that I could tap into.


Thanks in advance.

/Charles Severance

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