Re: [Wikimedia Education] Issues finding tools to measure UNESCO project

[Pine W]

Hi John,

You might also try contacting the GLAM, Commons, Multimedia, and/or Labs
mailing lists to ask for suggestions, and/or put out a request in the GLAM
newsletter.

Pine
On Oct 4, 2015 2:54 AM, "john cummings"  wrote:

> Hi Anna
>
> Thanks, if you have any suggestions for additional tools to provide for
> contributors or any metrics you think I should use for reporting please do
> add them to the list.
>
> Cheers
>
> John
>
> On 2 October 2015 at 21:04, Anna Koval  wrote:
>
>> @Pine, thanks for your reply to John and the tip to ask Leila (not
>> Lila!). ;) It's much appreciated.
>>
>> @John, your metrics tools list [1] is helpful. I saw some tools there
>> that were new(s) to me. BaGLAMa 2 [2], for example. Could that or something
>> similar be used to collect pageviews stats en masse for categories of
>> Commons files uploaded by students in WEPs? Here's one such category from
>> the WEP Tec de Monterrey. [3] Manually mathing out the file totals to get a
>> category total would be painful, imo. There must be an easier way. We have
>> so many tools as a movement, though not all are well used or even well
>> known. Thanks for asking this question on-list so that we all will benefit
>> from the answer. Metrics and measurement matter. It's good that we're
>> talking about how to do so -- smarter not harder.
>>
>> Anna
>>
>> [1]
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
>> [2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/baglama2/index.html
>> [3]
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Student_photos_taken_for_Experiencias_Retadoras_Spring_2015
>>
>> Anna Koval, M.Ed.
>> Manager, Wikipedia Education Program
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> +1.415.839.6885 x 6729
>> Skype: annakoval.wiki
>> ako...@wikimedia.org
>> education.wikimedia.org
>>
>> --
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:23 AM, john cummings 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Pine
>>>
>>> Hi Leila
>>>
>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated, I seem to have got very stuck,
>>> there are some fairly basic things I would like to measure and the tools to
>>> do so either don't exist or I don't know about them.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> John
>>> On 2 Oct 2015 17:36, "Pine W"  wrote:
>>>
 Hi John,

 Those are some good suggestions for tools. I would like to suggest that
 you contact Leila (not Lila!) who I think has been doing some work with
 suggested articles for translation. She may have some ideas for you.
 Regarding your questions for multimedia, I would like to suggest that you
 email those questions to the Multimedia mailing list.

 Good luck,
 Pine
 On Oct 2, 2015 3:42 AM, "john cummings" 
 wrote:

> Hi All
>
> This is my first time posing on this list, I'm sorry if it is perhaps
> a little off topic. I'm currently Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO and
> plan to run an online collaboration, a little bit like a short term
> Wikiproject with two main goals:
>
>
>- Help organise reuse of UNESCO content on Wikimedia projects
>(UNESCO has released content under an open license and will do more
>shortly).
>
>
>- Help improve content on Wikimedia of the subjects of UNESCO
>programmes e.g the World Heritage Sites.
>
>
> I have been planning ways that I can use tools to:
>
>
>- Organise work for contributors across all languages
>- Provide contributors feedback on their contributions (e.g page
>views for all contributions combined)
>- Measure success of the project.
>
>
> I've been doing this on wiki here
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
>
> In short I'm finding it very hard to find the tools needed, I have
> found less than a third of what I think would be helpful but found others
> that may be tangentially useful which I've added in.
>
> Any help would be appreciate, please feel free to comment here, on the
> talk page or just add tools to the fields
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
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Re: [Wikimedia Education] Issues finding tools to measure UNESCO project

[Anna Koval]

@Pine, thanks for your reply to John and the tip to ask Leila (not Lila!).
;) It's much appreciated.

@John, your metrics tools list [1] is helpful. I saw some tools there that
were new(s) to me. BaGLAMa 2 [2], for example. Could that or something
similar be used to collect pageviews stats en masse for categories of
Commons files uploaded by students in WEPs? Here's one such category from
the WEP Tec de Monterrey. [3] Manually mathing out the file totals to get a
category total would be painful, imo. There must be an easier way. We have
so many tools as a movement, though not all are well used or even well
known. Thanks for asking this question on-list so that we all will benefit
from the answer. Metrics and measurement matter. It's good that we're
talking about how to do so -- smarter not harder.

Anna

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
[2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/baglama2/index.html
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Student_photos_taken_for_Experiencias_Retadoras_Spring_2015

Anna Koval, M.Ed.
Manager, Wikipedia Education Program
Wikimedia Foundation
+1.415.839.6885 x 6729
Skype: annakoval.wiki
ako...@wikimedia.org
education.wikimedia.org

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On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:23 AM, john cummings 
wrote:

> Thanks Pine
>
> Hi Leila
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated, I seem to have got very stuck,
> there are some fairly basic things I would like to measure and the tools to
> do so either don't exist or I don't know about them.
>
> All the best
>
> John
> On 2 Oct 2015 17:36, "Pine W"  wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Those are some good suggestions for tools. I would like to suggest that
>> you contact Leila (not Lila!) who I think has been doing some work with
>> suggested articles for translation. She may have some ideas for you.
>> Regarding your questions for multimedia, I would like to suggest that you
>> email those questions to the Multimedia mailing list.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Pine
>> On Oct 2, 2015 3:42 AM, "john cummings"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> This is my first time posing on this list, I'm sorry if it is perhaps a
>>> little off topic. I'm currently Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO and plan
>>> to run an online collaboration, a little bit like a short term Wikiproject
>>> with two main goals:
>>>
>>>
>>>- Help organise reuse of UNESCO content on Wikimedia projects
>>>(UNESCO has released content under an open license and will do more
>>>shortly).
>>>
>>>
>>>- Help improve content on Wikimedia of the subjects of UNESCO
>>>programmes e.g the World Heritage Sites.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been planning ways that I can use tools to:
>>>
>>>
>>>- Organise work for contributors across all languages
>>>- Provide contributors feedback on their contributions (e.g page
>>>views for all contributions combined)
>>>- Measure success of the project.
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been doing this on wiki here
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
>>>
>>> In short I'm finding it very hard to find the tools needed, I have found
>>> less than a third of what I think would be helpful but found others that
>>> may be tangentially useful which I've added in.
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciate, please feel free to comment here, on the
>>> talk page or just add tools to the fields
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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