Re: [Ekiga-list] list manager: could we have this on gmane.org?

2009-02-28 Thread ael

H. S. wrote:

Hello,

This is intended for whoever is maintaining this mailing list. I was
wondering if this list can be made available via gmane.org.


IIRC you simply make the request to gmane. So you are asking in the 
wrong place: instead visit the gmane website and enter the request.


ael
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Re: [Ekiga-list] PTLIB alsa plugin status

2009-02-28 Thread Alec Leamas

Derek Smithies wrote:

Hi,

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Alec Leamas wrote:

I need a whisky.

Coffee is much better. Don't add any impurities though (milk, sugar etc)
I'm was actually using both whisky AND coffe w milk. Sorry, no 
offense...  :-)


After some serious fights w the build system, I've been able to add a 
simple PTRACE to the SetBuffers method in sound_alsa.cxx. Trimmed output:


13:45:49.348  ALSASetting buffers, size: 3840, count: 5
13:45:49.402  ALSADevice default Opened
13:45:49.438  ALSASetting buffers, size: 320, count: 5

which verifies Andreas' logs  i. e., this is what causes the oversized 
alsa hw buffer. I made a quick search, there are no references to 
SetBuffers in the plugin code. So these calls comes from the upper 
layers. For the moment I'll stick to the alsa plugin and will not 
investigate this any further.




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Re: [Ekiga-list] call failure

2009-02-28 Thread Alec Leamas
I've been able to reproduce what I think is the same error (core dumped 
when 520 calls back). Gdb backtrace in 
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ekiga-list/2009-February/msg00282.html


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Michael Stockenhuber wrote:

Hi,

Fair enough. Its great to hear that there are a lot of users.
It is not a gdb backtrace it the debug output from ekiga in linux ( 
ekiga -d 4). Anyway, I have cut out the stuff that was repeated a lot 
and got it down to below 40 kB. File is enclosed.

Maybe someone can help.
 
Cheers


Michael


On February 28, 2009 at 2:54 AM Damien Sandras dsand...@seconix.com 
wrote:


 Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 20:52 +1100, Michael Stockenhuber a
 écrit :
  Hi,
  I have replied and sent the logs but they are too big and wait for
  moderator approval.

 It won't get approved, there are too many subscribers to this list.
 Please post it to pastebin. However, I doubt a gdb backtrace is that
 big.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] list manager: could we have this on gmane.org?

2009-02-28 Thread H. S.
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:57 AM, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote:

 H. S. wrote:

 Hello,

 This is intended for whoever is maintaining this mailing list. I was
 wondering if this list can be made available via gmane.org.


 IIRC you simply make the request to gmane. So you are asking in the wrong
 place: instead visit the gmane website and enter the request.

 ael



Aha! My bad then. I was under the impression a list manager has to allow
gmane (or create and account there or some such thing) to mirror the list as
a newsgroup.

I will take a look at gmane.org.

Thanks.
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[Ekiga-list] no incoming calls behing an ADSL modem

2009-02-28 Thread H. S.
Hi,

I have just convinced a few of my friends to move from Skype to Ekiga.

While testing with one of them, we noticed that he can call me sucessfully
but I cannot call him. If I try calling his sip address, I get a message in
the status Remote user is unreachable. That user is behing a modem which
is working in pppoe mode. His computer computer has a private address. While
configure Ekiga, the stun was selected in the network setting. His computer
is Ubuntu Hardy, Ekiga 2.0.12.

How do we go about solving this problem?

Thanks.
PS: With echo cancellation off, the voice quality is at least as good as we
get with Skype. Good job, ekiga devels! But with echo cancellation on, the
quality is not as good. Proving that the suggestion in online docs to use
headsets is a good once :)
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Re: [Ekiga-list] no incoming calls behing an ADSL modem

2009-02-28 Thread H. S.
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM, H. S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have just convinced a few of my friends to move from Skype to Ekiga.

 While testing with one of them, we noticed that he can call me sucessfully
 but I cannot call him. If I try calling his sip address, I get a message in
 the status Remote user is unreachable. That user is behing a modem which
 is working in pppoe mode. His computer computer has a private address. While
 configure Ekiga, the stun was selected in the network setting. His computer
 is Ubuntu Hardy, Ekiga 2.0.12.

 How do we go about solving this problem?

 Thanks.
 PS: With echo cancellation off, the voice quality is at least as good as we
 get with Skype. Good job, ekiga devels! But with echo cancellation on, the
 quality is not as good. Proving that the suggestion in online docs to use
 headsets is a good once :)


hmm ... he restarted Ekiga and now I am able to call him, even across the
pppoe ADSL modem. Looks like a restart of Ekiga fixed something. Does that
show what could have been missed?

Sorry for all the noise.

Regards.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] PTLIB alsa plugin status

2009-02-28 Thread Derek Smithies

Hi,


 On Sat, 28 Feb 2009, Alec Leamas wrote:


Coffee is much better. Don't add any impurities though (milk, sugar etc)
I'm was actually using both whisky AND coffe w milk. Sorry, no offense... 
:-)

No offense taken. I put that comment in to lighten the tone a little.

After some serious fights w the build system, I've been able to add a simple 
PTRACE to the SetBuffers method in sound_alsa.cxx. Trimmed output:


yeah - it is much easier to avoid such battles and put in cerr 
statements...


These battles are a pain and a complete waste of time. They really really 
annoy me. Like, autoconf was supposed to remove hassle.

It hasn't.
The kernel does not use autoconf -- which suggests to me that autoconf is 
not all capable. The ptlibopal build system consists of multiple projects 
that interdepend on each other. autoconf (ideally) requires us to 
duplicate code and directories, and separate the projects out.  forget 
that.


Derek.

  Derek Smithies wrote:

Hi,

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Alec Leamas wrote:

I need a whisky.

Coffee is much better. Don't add any impurities though (milk, sugar etc)
I'm was actually using both whisky AND coffe w milk. Sorry, no offense... 
:-)



13:45:49.348  ALSASetting buffers, size: 3840, count: 5
13:45:49.402  ALSADevice default Opened
13:45:49.438  ALSASetting buffers, size: 320, count: 5

which verifies Andreas' logs  i. e., this is what causes the oversized alsa 
hw buffer. I made a quick search, there are no references to SetBuffers in 
the plugin code. So these calls comes from the upper layers. For the moment 
I'll stick to the alsa plugin and will not investigate this any further.




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Re: [Ekiga-list] PTLIB alsa plugin status

2009-02-28 Thread Derek Smithies

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009, Alec Leamas wrote:


Derek Smithies wrote:

Hi,

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Alec Leamas wrote:

I need a whisky.

Coffee is much better. Don't add any impurities though (milk, sugar etc)
I'm was actually using both whisky AND coffe w milk. Sorry, no offense... 
:-)


After some serious fights w the build system, I've been able to add a simple 
PTRACE to the SetBuffers method in sound_alsa.cxx. Trimmed output:


13:45:49.348  ALSASetting buffers, size: 3840, count: 5
13:45:49.402  ALSADevice default Opened
13:45:49.438  ALSASetting buffers, size: 320, count: 5


It is set in opal in

OpalAudioMediaStream::OpalAudioMediaStream(
 where soundChannelBuffers is set to the supplied parameter value.

This comes out of the pcssendpoint class, which

which ends up coming from: a method of the pcss endpoint which gets the 
user defined buffer depth...

soundChannelBuffers = pcss endpoint.GetSoundChannelBufferDepth()


so you know what ?

I think this is a bug from outside of ptlibopal. The default values 
for codec sizes in ptlibopal are for a count of 2 buffers (unix) and 3 
buffers(windows).


Derek.

which verifies Andreas' logs  i. e., this is what causes the oversized alsa 
hw buffer. I made a quick search, there are no references to SetBuffers in 
the plugin code. So these calls comes from the upper layers. For the moment 
I'll stick to the alsa plugin and will not investigate this any further.




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