Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie questions

2013-02-16 Thread Polaris


Re #1:  I was able to call another Ekiga user and had him call me. We 
were able to repeat that several times;  therefore the right ports are 
open - yet I keep getting the same annoying error message every time 
Ekiga starts.  [the problems in our connections were described on the 
thread: 'Ekiga test today'] What to do next?


Re #3:  Is echo problem common place with Ekiga and is a head set the 
only way to eliminate it?


Regarding Video Quality:
My camera supports res up to 720p, Ekiga is suppose to support up 
to 480p but the picture I observed on my screen was rather poor. Besides 
lighting, is there anything I can do to improve the picture?



On 2/12/2013 12:19 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote:

On 12/02/13 20:08, Polaris wrote:

Hi, just installed Ekiga and have the following questions:

1. Connectivity: Every time Ekiga starts I get the following error 
message:


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/ekigaporterror.jpg/

I have since manually opened all the required ports and verified that
they are open with PFPortChecker but the same error message still pops
up. In both Echo and Call back tests, I hear and see myself so is
everything working properly and if so how do I prevent this message from
appearing?


Check whether you can be called too.  See 
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Understanding_NAT/firewall_issues_with_SIP_clients_%28eg_ekiga%29 
for some information.



2. To confirm that I am getting out there and to see how things work, I
wanted to call someone but every person I tried in the address book was
unavailable. Would someone be so kind as to make themselves available
for a short chat (I can make myself available during most of the day and
am in GMT - 8 )?

3. Audio: During the tests there was a lot of echo even after I enabled
echo cancellation in preferences. What can I do to improve the sound?


Echo cancellation is not high quality.  Buy a headset.


4. Video: Is there a way to make the video conference window occupy the
whole screen (my monitor is set to 1024x768)?


Use fullscreen in View menu during conversation.




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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today

2013-02-16 Thread Polaris
I was on the other end of this test.  We first assumed that freezing up 
and loop back video problems were due to bugs in the 4.0 ver of 
Ekiga.  If the 3.2 ver is considered more buggy than 4.0 than would 
someone with 4.0 installed like to give me a call so I could test my new 
camera properly?


Thanks,

sip:tr...@ekiga.net


On 2/15/2013 11:16 PM, Genghis Khan wrote:

Hello,

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST)
el_gallo_azul el_gallo_a...@yahoo.com wrote:


I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used
Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test.

1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga
3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help.

Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask?
As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues
which make Ekiga to freeze.


2. We were able to converse.

3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to
see video of himself.

Maybe you did not had the same video codec activated?


4. We had a brief discussion regarding the SIP protocol.Is there more
than one SIP protocol? ie. Is it possible that different software
uses different protocol/s, or part thereof? For example, I believe
Empathy has 'some SIP support'. Do Ekiga and Empathy not talk to each
other at all?

a. It is possible to use different software that use same protocol.
However, there may be an issue of case-problem which would result in
clients that intended to be communicating with each other to not
communicate.

On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:21:27 -0800
Justin Karneges jus...@affinix.com wrote:


I think the right answer is that codec names are meant to be
compared in a case-sensitive way, and the correct name of the Speex
codec is speex and not SPEEX. Psi therefore uses the wrong codec
name completely. This also means that it only ever worked at all with
other clients (e.g. Empathy, Pidgin) because they were sending the
wrong codec name to Psi.

http://lists.affinix.com/pipermail/psi-devel-affinix.com/2012-November/thread.html

b. It is also possible to use different software that use different
protocol via gateway/bridge of 3rd party (i.e. SIP to land-line; Jingle
to land-line; SIP - land-line - Skype).
There are available gateways from SIP to Jingle and from Jingle to SIP.
There is also Asterisk integration with Skype but I think non of them
are available for the public since Microsoft took over
http://freeswitch.org/node/325.

c. In future, I guess, people will make plugins for Ekiga and other SIP
clients that correspond with Skype protocol by reverse-engineered code,
which is being censored by Microsoft and various of ISPs by blocking
BitTorrent traffic of it https://github.com/skypeopensource
http://the-user.org/post/skype-reverse-engineered.


5. I chose Ekiga because it is multi-platform (Linux, Microsoft
Windows, Apple OSX). This is necessary at the moment because most
people I have been using Skype with use computers with Microsoft or
Apple OS. In the long term, I think that people should be able to
choose any SIP software they like, and they should be able to talk to
each other.

I think just like you :-)

Ekiga is not yet available for MacOS, MacOS testers are needed.
Linphone and QuteCom (formerly known as WengoPhone), for
example, do work under all three platforms.


Greg Flint

PO Box 642
Parap
NT 0804
Australia

Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725
Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021
Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5
sip: el_gallo_a...@ekiga.net
sip: 473...@sip.diamondcard.us






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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today

2013-02-16 Thread Bret Busby

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Genghis Khan wrote:



Hello,

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST)
el_gallo_azul el_gallo_a...@yahoo.com wrote:


I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used
Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test.

1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga
3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help.


Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask?
As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues
which make Ekiga to freeze.



Hello.

I do not know whether this message will get through.

I have previously been unable to post to the list, and messages sent to 
people asking for assistance with the mailing list, have been 
unacknowledged.


I have both Ekiga and Skype installed.

The version of Ekiga that is in the Debian 6 (current stable version of 
Debian Linux) repository, is Ekiga 3.2.7-2.


I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to 
make, so far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet connected up 
with anyone, family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via 
Skype or Ekiga), that the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated, and 
is of low resolution, compared with Skype.


The version of Skype that I have installed, is 2.2.0.35-1, which I 
believe (but may be wrong) was in the Debian package repository when I 
installed Debian 6 on this computer. I assume that the existence of 
Skype in the Debian package repository, is from before when Microsoft 
took over Skype.


I am aware that both Ekiga and Skype are in versions 4.x, not, but 
installing Skype from the cuirrent version, on Debian amd64, appears to 
now be too complicated.


And, there is a weiord thing on the Skype web site - it shows that Skype 
is available for Debian, only for Debian 7 multiarch (?) which has not 
yet been released, and, it takes a bit of digging around on the Skype 
web site, to find the references to installing Skype on Debian 6.


Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package 
repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above 
as being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x 
amd64, on an Intel I3 CPU.


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today

2013-02-16 Thread Bret Busby

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Bret Busby wrote:


Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:31:23
From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net
Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org
To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Genghis Khan wrote:



Hello,

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST)
el_gallo_azul el_gallo_a...@yahoo.com wrote:


I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used
Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test.

1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga
3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help.


Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask?
As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues
which make Ekiga to freeze.



Hello.

I do not know whether this message will get through.

I have previously been unable to post to the list, and messages sent to 
people asking for assistance with the mailing list, have been unacknowledged.


I have both Ekiga and Skype installed.

The version of Ekiga that is in the Debian 6 (current stable version of 
Debian Linux) repository, is Ekiga 3.2.7-2.


I have noticed with test calls (that is all that I have been able to make, so 
far, with both Skype and Ekiga - haven't yet connected up with anyone, 
family or otherwise, who have made contact with me via Skype or Ekiga), that 
the Ekiga video of me, is highly pixellated, and is of low resolution, 
compared with Skype.


The version of Skype that I have installed, is 2.2.0.35-1, which I believe 
(but may be wrong) was in the Debian package repository when I installed 
Debian 6 on this computer. I assume that the existence of Skype in the Debian 
package repository, is from before when Microsoft took over Skype.


I am aware that both Ekiga and Skype are in versions 4.x, not, but installing 
Skype from the cuirrent version, on Debian amd64, appears to now be too 
complicated.


And, there is a weiord thing on the Skype web site - it shows that Skype is 
available for Debian, only for Debian 7 multiarch (?) which has not yet been 
released, and, it takes a bit of digging around on the Skype web site, to 
find the references to installing Skype on Debian 6.


Anyway, the latest version of Ekiga that shows in the Debian package 
repository, for Debian 6, is the Ekiga v 3.2.7-2, that I mentioned above as 
being installed on this computer, which is running Debian 6.0.x amd64, on an 
Intel I3 CPU.


--
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you'll know what the answer means.
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Yes!

It got through...

:)

I have just tried, using my version of Ekiga, to call the poster of the 
original message in the thread, to find what would happen.


I got User is not available.

Oh, well...

I tried.

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 you'll know what the answer means.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today

2013-02-16 Thread Bret Busby

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Polaris wrote:


Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:08:57
From: Polaris pola...@vfemail.net
Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org
To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga test today

I was on the other end of this test.  We first assumed that freezing up and 
loop back video problems were due to bugs in the 4.0 ver of Ekiga.  If the 
3.2 ver is considered more buggy than 4.0 than would someone with 4.0 
installed like to give me a call so I could test my new camera properly?


Thanks,

sip:tr...@ekiga.net


On 2/15/2013 11:16 PM, Genghis Khan wrote:

Hello,

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:00 -0800 (PST)
el_gallo_azul el_gallo_a...@yahoo.com wrote:


I just did a test using Ekiga with another noobie Ekiga user. He used
Ekiga 4.0 for Windows, and I used Ekiga 3.2.6 for Linux for the test.

1. I would like to carry out another test with another user of Ekiga
3.2.6. Please respond to me directly if you can help.

Why do you want to use 3.2.6, if I may ask?
As far as I recall, 3.2.6 or 3.2.7 have bad connectivity issues
which make Ekiga to freeze.


2. We were able to converse.

3. I was only able to see video of myself, and he was only able to
see video of himself.

Maybe you did not had the same video codec activated?


4. We had a brief discussion regarding the SIP protocol.Is there more
than one SIP protocol? ie. Is it possible that different software
uses different protocol/s, or part thereof? For example, I believe
Empathy has 'some SIP support'. Do Ekiga and Empathy not talk to each
other at all?

a. It is possible to use different software that use same protocol.
However, there may be an issue of case-problem which would result in
clients that intended to be communicating with each other to not
communicate.

On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:21:27 -0800
Justin Karneges jus...@affinix.com wrote:


I think the right answer is that codec names are meant to be
compared in a case-sensitive way, and the correct name of the Speex
codec is speex and not SPEEX. Psi therefore uses the wrong codec
name completely. This also means that it only ever worked at all with
other clients (e.g. Empathy, Pidgin) because they were sending the
wrong codec name to Psi.

http://lists.affinix.com/pipermail/psi-devel-affinix.com/2012-November/thread.html

b. It is also possible to use different software that use different
protocol via gateway/bridge of 3rd party (i.e. SIP to land-line; Jingle
to land-line; SIP - land-line - Skype).
There are available gateways from SIP to Jingle and from Jingle to SIP.
There is also Asterisk integration with Skype but I think non of them
are available for the public since Microsoft took over
http://freeswitch.org/node/325.

c. In future, I guess, people will make plugins for Ekiga and other SIP
clients that correspond with Skype protocol by reverse-engineered code,
which is being censored by Microsoft and various of ISPs by blocking
BitTorrent traffic of it https://github.com/skypeopensource
http://the-user.org/post/skype-reverse-engineered.


5. I chose Ekiga because it is multi-platform (Linux, Microsoft
Windows, Apple OSX). This is necessary at the moment because most
people I have been using Skype with use computers with Microsoft or
Apple OS. In the long term, I think that people should be able to
choose any SIP software they like, and they should be able to talk to
each other.

I think just like you :-)

Ekiga is not yet available for MacOS, MacOS testers are needed.
Linphone and QuteCom (formerly known as WengoPhone), for
example, do work under all three platforms.


Greg Flint

PO Box 642
Parap
NT 0804
Australia

Phone +61 (0)8 8945 1725
Mobile +61 (0)428 279 021
Australian Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT + 9.5
sip: el_gallo_a...@ekiga.net
sip: 473...@sip.diamondcard.us






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I just tried calling the above poster, with my version of Ekiga.

I again got User is not available.

I think that my SIP address is bret.bu...@ekiga.net .

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