[Ekiga-list] Does ekiga support real-time text chatting?
Hi, All, Does anyone know if ekiga supports real-time text chatting. i.e. does ekiga/opal support RFC4103? Thanks Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Can anyone help me to review the patch?
Hi,All, Can anyone help me to review my PTLib patch posted at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=618624? Thanks Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] closing lid on laptop suspends it
Julien Puydt jpuydt at free.fr writes: That has nothing to do with ekiga, does it? Yes, of course not. It was a simple error in transposing the list address into the recipient. Apologies for the noise. ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
[Ekiga-devel-list] git master and audio latency
I'm using git master and have been noticing the latency with ekiga and my PBX's echo test are quite high. Very audible. For contrast, any of the ATA or IP connected phones around here has very little or no audible latency. FWIW, this is even when I am using ALSA devices directly. Thots? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
[Ekiga-devel-list] closing lid on laptop suspends it
I have a Toshiba Tecra M9 laptop running a 2.6.31 kernel. I'm not even sure if this is really the correct list, but if not, hopefully somebody can give me a gentle shove in the right direction. The problem I'm having with this laptop is that once it has booted up, prior to logging into the gnome desktop, if I (open if not already opened and then) close the lid, it suspends, even when plugged into AC. If I log into gnome, my gnome-power-manager preferences are applied and closing the lid with AC plugged in only blanks the screen, it does not suspend the laptop. Additionally, after this suspend-on-lid-close operation, I get the following complaints on the kernel message buffer: Feb 8 12:33:58 brian-laptop kernel: [14735.616976] NVRM: rm_init_adapter(0) failed Feb 8 12:34:03 brian-laptop kernel: [14739.756068] NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x26:0x38:1096) Feb 8 12:34:03 brian-laptop kernel: [14739.756075] NVRM: rm_init_adapter(0) failed Feb 8 12:34:07 brian-laptop kernel: [14744.044665] NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x26:0x38:1096) Feb 8 12:34:07 brian-laptop kernel: [14744.044671] NVRM: rm_init_adapter(0) failed Feb 8 12:34:11 brian-laptop kernel: [14748.200786] NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x26:0x38:1096) and the graphic display is no longer working. The above of course may or may not be related, but might just be a casualty of some other problem. I just offer it in hopes that it provides more clue as to what is going on. Thots? b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
[Ekiga-list] account question
Hi I''m not sure whether this is the right list to post to, but its the only one I've found - please forward if its not the right list. I created an account a while back with ekiga.net and am struggling to login via ekiga. I suspect it is because I have an inverted comma (') in the password and I've tried resetting my password via the web site, but the password authentication fails online too. Would it be possible to reset my password? My username is brian.silberbauer I have sent a mail to accounts, but it was unclear whether anybody is monitoring the account. Great work BTW, very nice app. Brian -- Brian Silberbauer Consulting +27 (0)83 566 2705 http://www.gamatam.com/ jobs site: http://gamatamjobs.appspot.com/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] account question
Thanks for getting back to me Yannick. There is no rush, do it whenever you have a chance - I'm up to my eyeballs today too :) Brian On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, yannick sev...@free.fr wrote: Brian Silberbauer a écrit : Hi I''m not sure whether this is the right list to post to, but its the only one I've found - please forward if its not the right list. I created an account a while back with ekiga.net and am struggling to login via ekiga. I suspect it is because I have an inverted comma (') in the password and I've tried resetting my password via the web site, but the password authentication fails online too. Would it be possible to reset my password? My username is brian.silberbauer Hello, I'll have a look and let you know your password (probably escaped) there was a bug like this with the old interface which has been fixed with the new one. Unfortunately, I'm quite busy today. Best regards, Yannick I have sent a mail to accounts, but it was unclear whether anybody is monitoring the account. Great work BTW, very nice app. Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Brian Silberbauer Consulting +27 (0)83 566 2705 http://www.gamatam.com/ jobs site: http://gamatamjobs.appspot.com/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Cannot answer calls (no popup window)
Hi, I have the same setup opensuse 11.1 and ekiga 3.0.1 and get the same problem. The difference in my case is that it varies, 1) I have had the popup occur click on it and answer the call as normal. 2) The ring occurs and no popup 3) the ring occurs and it is ringing for an extended time and then the pop occurs. I have never seen the notification box in the tray. Is there a setting for this? To be clear I do have the icon in the tray which normally shows a green circle. When I answer a call it shows a set of headphones. Is it supposed to show something else? Thanks, Brian On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:38:29 +1000, Raúl Z. Martínez r...@iem.cfmac.csic.es wrote: On Saturday 07 February 2009 22:57:47 you wrote: Ekiga 3.0.x can be compiled with libnotify support or without. If it is compiled with libnotify support, you get a nice notification in the notification area like in the following screenshot : http://gaim-libnotify.sourceforge.net/shot.jpg My guess is that Ekiga has been compiled with libnotify support, but for some reason, the notification can not be displayed. Try running it in a terminal, perhaps there are warnings that could lead you to a solution. Hi Damien, and thanks for the response. Sorry, I forgot to mention that I had already tried the terminal, and running ekiga in debug mode(s) also, but didn't see anything suspicious (lots of messages related to ALSA and the video, but nothing that looked like it could be related to this when I receive a call). Additionally, I just finished a new opensuse 11.1 installation in a laptop and the same thing happens yet again! I did it mostly because both of the previous installations were done in 64 bits processors and I wanted to try with the 32 bit version of the distribution. No difference. Btw, one of the ekiga installations was downloaded -as binaries- from ekiga.org, so I am pretty sure the problem has to be related to Suse's system installation, not ekiga itself. I am very puzzled by the fact that nobody else has reported this here or in SuSE forums. If I have managed to find this problem in 3 out of 3 installations with different hardware somebody else must have seen it with this distribution. I have found reports of people who have it working, though. Anyway, I'll keep trying. Thanks again. - BA - ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga errors using Onesuite and Ekiga account
Hi, Yes, check your router if you can you may find that the port 5060 is still being held up. I have had the situatiion where I restart ekiga immediately and the port has been up. So I thought, wait abit and it will recover. It does not. Shut ekiga down, wait for the port timeout and restart. There may be a better way to do this. The above was my case, YMMV. Brian On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:55:37 +1000, ZXT zx...@yahoo.com wrote: When I launched the Ekiga application it register without a problem then I added http://www.onesuite.com/products_Broadband_Main.asp OneSuite sip account . It says Service Unavailable. I restart the Ekiga application and now both SIP accounts has an error. Ekiga.net - Could not register (Illegal status code) Onesuite - Could not register (Service unavailable) Screenshot of Error messages - http://www.nabble.com/file/p21721344/ekiga.JPG ekiga.JPG Anybody got an idea? -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Contact list bug?
Damien, Not sure if this is a genuine bug, if so should I log it somewhere. In the Contact List (3.0.1) if you include a space or return after the sip address it causes the messages below. Yes, you should not do it, but it is pretty hard to find:) It also causes the SUBSCRIBE to fail. It is easily reproducable. Brian 2009/01/27 00:12:41.531 23:51.781 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 SIP Changing SUBSCRIBE handler from Unavailable to Restoring, target=sip:999...@sip.on.net , id=b657f3f1-1fea-dd11-9400-001b11e9b...@l2 2009/01/27 00:12:41.531 23:51.781 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 Socket Illegal RFC952 characters in DNS name sip.on.net ==note space on end 2009/01/27 00:12:41.531 23:51.781 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 Opal Could not find host sip.on.net 2009/01/27 00:12:41.532 23:51.782 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 OpalUDP Binding to interface: 0.0.0.0:5065 2009/01/27 00:12:41.532 23:51.782 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 Socket Illegal RFC952 characters in DNS name sip.on.net ==note space on end 2009/01/27 00:12:41.532 23:51.782 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 Opal Could not find host sip.on.net 2009/01/27 00:12:41.532 23:51.782 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 SIP Could not find udp$sip.on.net :5060 ==so you end up with a space before the port. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Suse 11.1 Compile problems
All, This thread is an attempt to document compile problems on SUSE 11.1 As mentioned in previous emails one of my main problems has been that the compile goes looking for libs in /opt/gnome/lib when all libs seem to be put into /usr/lib now. I managed to get a compile done using this. $ ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-debug --disable-eds --disable-gdu --disable-libtool-lock --disable-gnome However, I cannot make or recieve calls now. I will update this later when I get the problem resolved. The purpose of this email is to highlight the resmgr problem. After I got the libs problem sorted the compile then failed with a 'cannot load resmgr' message. This is correct there is no resmgr on 11.1. So I did a contents search of the 3.0.1 src and found the following have the word resmgr in them. /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/libekiga_engine.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/.libs/libekiga_engine.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/libekiga.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/.libs/libekiga.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/addressbook/evolution/libgmevolution.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/addressbook/evolution/.libs/libgmevolution.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/gui/gtk-core/libgmgtk-core.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/gui/gtk-core/.libs/libgmgtk-core.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/gui/gtk-frontend/libgmgtk-frontend.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/gui/gtk-frontend/.libs/libgmgtk-frontend.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/toolbox/libtoolbox.la /ekiga-3.0.1/lib/toolbox/.libs/libtoolbox.la I am not aware at this stage if any/all of the above actually do a call to load resmgr, they just have the word in there. To be clear, with the normal ./configure I get the resmgr problem, with the above configure I don't. Brian -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] What is 'ekiga's internal roster'?
All, FWIW, we use the term roster in XMPP to refer to a contact list. That's for that very reason it's named like that in ekiga ;-) FYI, roster has a specific meaning in English. It is a list that is rotated. So you put up a roster to operate a school canteen for example. Couple one does it on Monday couple two does it on tuesday etc. May I suggest that copying somebodies bad use of a word does not make it correct. Just me being pedantic, Brian -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Cannot make SIP calls with Ekiga 3.0.1
Clayton, I am currently running ekiga on opensuse 11.1 However, if you do a search of this list for posts from me you will see the issues I had. Two things spring to mind, one is you sy you declined the ekiga sip account, but did you remove the stun server as well? The other is that you are possibly running the wrong version. I would be interested to know(if you are a KDE user) if you managed to compile it. Thanks, Brian On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:51:42 +1000, Clayton smau...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot make SIP calls with Ekiga 3.0.1 on openSUSE 11.1. I was using, up until recently the 2.x releases of Ekiga, and they worked perfectly. I could connect to my VoIP provider and make calls. Ekiga 3.0.1 is another story though. I have cleared out all previous Ekiga config files, and gone through the setup wizard. I declined the ekiga.net SIP account because I already have a SIP account with my long standing VoIP provider. I have set up my SIP account, and Ekiga appears to be able to connect to it. I have triple checked the user name and password used to connect (the same SIP account I have used for several years with Ekiga and my VoIP provider). When I attempt to make a call to a landline (via my VoIP provider), all I seem to get is the message User is not available Ekiga is working (sound setup etc) because if I intentionally mis-dial and enter an invalid phone number I get a voice error message from my VoIP provider. I thought this might be a VoIP provider problem, but if I try Ekiga 2.12 from another Linux install it works fine... so it would appear to be directly linked to this version of Ekiga. Does anyone know what could be going wrong here and how I can fix it? C. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Cannot make SIP calls with Ekiga 3.0.1
Clayton I did a quick search, and I fould messages from you about compiling... but nothing I read seem to link to the prob I'm encountering.. I might have missed something though One of the things you should have found is using gconf-editor to see if you do have the stun server set. While you are there you might want to have a look at your listening port and port range, if they are non standard. From your post I cannot tell, do you ever get registered? Two things spring to mind, one is you sy you declined the ekiga sip account, but did you remove the stun server as well? In the 3.0.1 setup wizard, there is no step that details STUN server setup - not that I saw anyway. There are two steps for establishing an ekiga.net account for outgoing and incoming calls. Both steps have a checkbox at the bottom for skipping that step. Agreed but it still may be worth checking. The other is that you are possibly running the wrong version. The wrong version of what? Ekiga? It was/is the version released with openSUSE 11.1, and the build from the openSUSE repositories. If it's the wrong version, I would imagine that a lot of openSUSE users will be trying to use a broken build :-P i hope that's not the case here. I did mean the wrong version of ekiga. I originally used the opensuse one and could not get my camera to work. I then switched to the rep-oss version and it all worked. To be fair I was trying a LOT of things at the time, so YMMV here. I would be interested to know(if you are a KDE user) if you managed to compile it. Yes, I'm a KDE user... KDE4 to be sepcific. I haven't tried compiling Ekiga, or anything in openSUSE 11.1 yet. Just puling repo stuff for now. Great, if you ever get around to compiling please post the result. I had no problem with PTLIB and OPAL, but could not get ekiga to go. Brian -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] PDU Write failed: Invalid argument
Hi, I downloaded Ekiga from the SUSE repository There EKIGA 3.00 binairies are not (yet) available. The local firewall is not the culprit because with or without the local firewall on I get the same error. More suggestions? I am not sure why you canot get a binary. I have this on my 11.1 which works. Information for package ekiga: Repository: @System Name: ekiga Version: 3.0.1-1.22 Arch: i586 Vendor: openSUSE Installed: Yes Status: up-to-date Installed Size: 4.6 M NOTE: The one from opensuse did not work I had to get it from the repo-oss site. (you can add it to your repositories) Brian -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga 3.0.1 failure
Damien, It's a crash! Can you get us a backtrace next time ? See: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Debugging_Ekiga#How_to_send_us_a_backtrace_from_a_crash Checked out the page and started ekiga with gdb ekiga 21 | tee gdb-ekiga.txt I then got the output below. So I went and checked and I do not have any debug versions. Now I know I can compile PTLIB and OPAL with the the debug enabled. However, as per previous emails I cannot compile ekiga. SO, 1) Is my current gdb run worthwhile? 2) Is it worthwhile running with just ptlib and opal with debug. 3) Can someone supply me with a debug 32bit ekiga that will run on suse 11.1 Thanks, Brian GNU gdb (GDB; openSUSE 11.1) 6.8.50.20081120-cvs Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type show copying and show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as i586-suse-linux. For bug reporting instructions, please see: http://bugs.opensuse.org/... (no debugging symbols found) (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/ekiga (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 0xb548cb90 (LWP 9750)] [New Thread 0xb544bb90 (LWP 9751)] [New Thread 0xb540ab90 (LWP 9752)] [New Thread 0xb53c9b90 (LWP 9753)] [New Thread 0xb5388b90 (LWP 9754)] [New Thread 0xb5347b90 (LWP 9755)] [New Thread 0xb5306b90 (LWP 9756)] [New Thread 0xb52c5b90 (LWP 9757)] [New Thread 0xb5284b90 (LWP 9758)] [Thread 0xb5284b90 (LWP 9758) exited] [New Thread 0xb5243b90 (LWP 9759)] [New Thread 0xb5284b90 (LWP 9761)] -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Problem with SIP registration in Ekiga
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:41:18 +1000, Uditha M de Soysa uditha.madusa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm using ekiga 2.0.12 in Ubuntu 8.10. I have problem with connecting to my SIP account. Sometimes it connects. sometimes it doesn't. I'm using NAT traverdsal 'STUN', and STUN server 'stun.ekiga.net'. ANd im using a HSPA connection for internet I have enable the ip_port_forwarding to '1' too. Pls, help me on this situation. I have just upgraded to 3.0.1. I can recommend this path if you can. In the process of setting up to register with my new provider I did a test to ekiga.net,which worked. When I tried to register with my provider it failed. So I removed the ekiga.net account and it still failed. I then ran wireshark(also recommended to see what is going on) and found that my register process was still trying to use the stun server. To remove this you have to use gconf-editor. See previous posts. Not sure why it was failing when it used the stun server, but it looked like it might have been a timing thing. Now my router has the uPnP facility, which enables applications to find there way through the NAT(if started from inside), also my provider does not require a stun server. Not sure if this was required, in any event the next time I tried to register it worked and has been working ever since. So what I am suggesting is removing the stun server may be worthwhile. I also note that you say your connection works 'sometimes'. I guess there could be many circumstances for this, but his is one and is easy to check. I shut ekiga down once and it would not reregister. On checking my router I found that it was still holding the listening port up, in my case that was port 5065 but it is normally 5060. I just waited for the timeout in the router and ekiga reregistered straight away. So you could check how long your router holds a port up for after it has been disconnected. As always YMMV with any of the above, because I cannot see what is actually going on. However, I say again it is worth getting to know wireshark. Brian -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] ekiga 3.0.1 failure
Damien, I have had the failure below 3 times, this time I managed tocatch it in the log. It does not seem to occur after any specific period. 1) Started ekiga -d 4 output.txt 21, it ran for nearly 24hours. 2) The icon in the tray disappeared and I was left with a window that looked like the attached(hope that is ok). 3) Below is the last bit of the log(doctored). ekiga restarts fine. Brian 2009/01/05 14:16:05.661 13:32:03.106 ekiga OpalUDP Writing to interface 0 - 192.168.1.5%wlan0 2009/01/05 14:16:05.661 13:32:03.106 ekiga SIP Expiry time for PUBLISH set to 300 seconds. 2009/01/05 14:16:05.661 13:32:03.106 ekiga SIP Transaction created. 2009/01/05 14:16:05.663 13:32:03.108 ekiga DNS SRV Lookup sip.internode.on.net service _sip._udp 2009/01/05 14:16:05.676 13:32:03.121 ekiga SIP Transaction remote address is udp$203.2.134.1:5060 2009/01/05 14:16:05.677 13:32:03.122 ekiga SIP Sending PDU (862 bytes) to: rem=udp$203.2.99.1:5060,local=udp$192.168.0.99:5065,if=192.168.1.5%wlan0 PUBLISH sip:0200...@sip.internode.on.net SIP/2.0 CSeq: 2268 PUBLISH Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.0.99:5065;branch=z9hG4bK1085633d-4dd9-dd11-9476-001b11e9b188;rport User-Agent: Ekiga/3.0.1 From: sip:0299...@sip.internode.net;tag=f081633d-4dd9-dd11-9476-001b11e9b188 Call-ID: 4267633d-4dd9-dd11-9476-001b11e9b...@l2 To: sip:02999...@sip.internode.net Contact: sip:02000...@192.168.0.99:5065 Expires: 300 Event: presence Content-Type: application/pidf+xml Content-Length: 341 Max-Forwards: 70 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? presence xmlns=urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:pidf entity=pres:0299...@sip.internode.net tuple id=02999...@sip.internode.net noteonline/note status basicopen/basic /status contact priority=1sip:02999...@sip.internode.net/contact /tuple /presence 2009/01/05 14:16:05.677 13:32:03.122 ekiga SIP Transaction timers set: retry=0.500, completion=6.000 2009/01/05 14:16:05.739 13:32:03.184 Opal Liste...0xb5314b90 OpalUDP Binding to interface: 192.168.0.99:5065 2009/01/05 14:16:05.739 13:32:03.184 Opal Liste...0xb5314b90 SIP Waiting for PDU on udp$203.2.134.1:5060if=udp$192.168.0.99:5065 2009/01/05 14:16:05.740 13:32:03.185 Opal Liste...0xb5314b90 SIP No Content-Length present from udp$203.2.134.1:5060if=udp$192.168.0.99:5065, reading till end of datagram/stream. 2009/01/05 14:16:05.740 13:32:03.185 Opal Liste...0xb5314b90 SIP PDU received: rem=udp$203.2.134.1:5060,local=udp$192.168.0.99:5065,if=192.168.1.5%wlan0 SIP/2.0 405 Method Not Allowed CSeq: 2268 PUBLISH Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.0.99:5065;received=202.78.39.88;branch=z9hG4bK1085633d-4dd9-dd11-9476-001b11e9b188;rport=5065 From: sip:02999...@sip.internode.net;tag=f081633d-4dd9-dd11-9476-001b11e9b188 Call-ID: 4267633d-4dd9-dd11-9476-001b11e9b...@l2 To: sip:02999...@sip.internode.net;tag=aprqngfrt-s62bcj30002od Allow: INVITE,ACK,BYE,REGISTER,CANCEL,PRACK,INFO,SUBSCRIBE,NOTIFY,UPDATE 2009/01/05 14:16:05.740 13:32:03.186 Opal Liste...0xb5314b90 SIP Transaction 2268 PUBLISH completed. 2009/01/05 14:16:05.741 13:32:03.186 Opal Liste...0xb5314b90 SIP Not retrying PUBLISH due to error response 405 Method Not Allowed THIS IS THE END OF THE LOG -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/attachment: ekiga_bad_window.png___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Logon Problem
Damien, I have recently got a working version of 3.0.1 on my suse11.1, the previous one did not give me the option to select a V4L2 camera. As an aside I think this new version is a lot more robust. I am now at the point where I try to login. NOTE: I have used gconf-editor to change my listen port to 5065. This is because I am using ekiga as the softphone while my ATA is still connected(using 5060) to another account. Below is an extract from the log showing the ip/ports coming back correctly but I get a 404. I am pretty sure this is because my account is not set up properly at my provider. Can you confirm or can a 404 mean something else? Note also that I have temporarily removed my ekiga account so I am not using a stun server. Thanks, Brian 2009/01/02 21:30:30.975 0:07.903 Opal Liste...0xb521db90 SIP PDU received: rem=udp$konqueror:5060,local=udp$202.78.39.251:5065,if=192.168.1.5%wlan0 SIP/2.0 404 Not Found CSeq: 1 REGISTER Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.1.5:5065;received=202.78.39.251;branch=z9hG4bK621d3c6e-2ed7-dd11-8a54-001b11e9b188;rport=5065 From: sip:999...@sip.id.on.net Call-ID: 12240d6e-2ed7-dd11-8a54-001b11e9b...@l2 To: sip:999...@sip.id.on.net;tag=aprqngfrt-298smn120 ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Logon Problem
Damien, Please disregard this query. FYI, On checking through the debug output I saw that it was still going out to the ekiga stun server. I used gconf-editor to remove the stun server, and have just made my first call:)). Thanks for a great product, and you, Eugen and Fabrice for your support with this. Brian. Brian wrote: Damien, I have recently got a working version of 3.0.1 on my suse11.1, the previous one did not give me the option to select a V4L2 camera. As an aside I think this new version is a lot more robust. I am now at the point where I try to login. NOTE: I have used gconf-editor to change my listen port to 5065. This is because I am using ekiga as the softphone while my ATA is still connected(using 5060) to another account. Below is an extract from the log showing the ip/ports coming back correctly but I get a 404. I am pretty sure this is because my account is not set up properly at my provider. Can you confirm or can a 404 mean something else? Note also that I have temporarily removed my ekiga account so I am not using a stun server. Thanks, Brian 2009/01/02 21:30:30.975 0:07.903 Opal Liste...0xb521db90 SIP PDU received: rem=udp$konqueror:5060,local=udp$202.78.39.251:5065,if=192.168.1.5%wlan0 SIP/2.0 404 Not Found CSeq: 1 REGISTER Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.1.5:5065;received=202.78.39.251;branch=z9hG4bK621d3c6e-2ed7-dd11-8a54-001b11e9b188;rport=5065 From: sip:999...@sip.id.on.net Call-ID: 12240d6e-2ed7-dd11-8a54-001b11e9b...@l2 To: sip:999...@sip.id.on.net;tag=aprqngfrt-298smn120 ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Logon Problem
Damien, A! Precisely:) What was the solution to the compilation problem ? Unfortunately, there is no solution. I am happy to pursue it further offline if you like. However, I am not sure if it is worth the effort. The problem was/is that I run kde. As such I have almost no gnome stuff installed by default. When I do install gnome stuff it gets put into /usr/lib not opt/gnome/lib where your software goes looking for it. I forgot to ask Fabrice when he said that he managed to compile, if he was using/had installed, the gnome desktop. In addition I think I was picking up some older libs( I did an upgrade from 10.3-11.1) as the compile wanted to use resmgr which no longer exists on 11.1. Again many thanks, Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Logon Problem
Damien, What was the solution to the compilation problem ? Unfortunately, there is no solution. So you are now using a binary package ? Yes, in desperation I downloaded it again and did a reinstall and this time it worked. I am happy to pursue it further offline if you like. However, I am not sure if it is worth the effort. The problem was/is that I run kde. As such I have almost no gnome stuff installed by default. When I do install gnome stuff it gets put into /usr/lib not opt/gnome/lib where your software goes looking for it. I forgot to ask Fabrice when he said that he managed to compile, if he was using/had installed, the gnome desktop. Weird. Agreed. Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Compile Problem Resolved sort of.
Brian, 1) I am still not able to compile. The libtool that gets generated in the ekiga-3.0.1 directory contains a mass of files that are hardcoded with /opt/gnome/lib. As mentioned previously on my particular system SUSE 11.1 32bit I do not have anything in /opt/gnome/lib. All the required files have been put into /usr/lib. I cannot see how to change this setup, so I am going to leave it for now( I may try a fresh install to see what happens). 2) I am able to leave it because I have just done yet another download of the SUSE supplied package and this time it has worked. This is because when you run the config assistant it now gives me the option to select UVC (camera id) (PTLIBV4L2). This option was not available previously. See below for the version I am running. Many thanks Eugen for your pointers. Brian Information for package ekiga: Repository: @System Name: ekiga Version: 3.0.1-1.22 Arch: i586 Vendor: openSUSE Installed: Yes Status: up-to-date Installed Size: 4.6 M Summary: A Gnome based SIP/H323 teleconferencing application ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Compile Problem
Eugen, In the original version (sources only), I do not have these files. After compilation, I do have these files, but they do not reference resmgr. Yes it makes me think that I am picking up a file a I shouldn't, from the old 10.3 system. There should be no reference to resmgr in 11.1. I did a make clean and then started again with your configure options, except I used /user/lib. I think PTLIB and OPAL went a lot better, I definitely saw messages that seemed to be including V4L2 this time. However, on recompiling ekiga I ended up with the same resmgr problem. Next I thing I will try re extracting the tarball and start with a clean slate, but it is 03.00 and I am falling asleep. Later, Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Compile Problem
Eugen, I am still getting these errors. libtool: link: cannot find the library `/opt/gnome/lib/libgnomevfs-2.la' or unhandled argument `/opt/gnome/lib/libgnomevfs-2.la' On doing a reinstall for the package that contains this file I see that it gets put into /usr/lib. Checking /opt/gnome/lib there is literally nothing in there. Is that the case with your system? If so how do I tell the libtool to go look in /usr/lib? Thanks, Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Compile Problem
Eugen, Thanks this put me on the right track. I can confirm that suse 11.1 is the problem. In ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/ it still uses *.la files all these have been removed in 11.1, in addition there is practically nothing in /opt/gnome/lib. Most of those files have been moved to /usr/lib. There were about 6 other files that were deleted altogether. What a mess! Anyway I got over all of them, and engine compiled ok. Now I get to /usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.3/../../../../i586-suse-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lresmgr collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [ekiga] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/src' make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1' make: *** [all] Error 2 Only to discover that suse dropped support for resmgr after 10.3. It nolonger exists in 11.1. Suse now appears to use hal-resmgr. Once I figured out what libs were required where, I coped, but I do not understand how to proceed with this one. Is it possible to remove the requirement to load resmgr? Thanks, Brian Eugen Dedu wrote: Brian wrote: Damien, Can you provide a full log ? Do you mean from a ekiga -d 4? I fear the V4L2 plugin is not installed, but only the 'deprecated' V4L2 plugin... I agree, that is what it looks like and last time I got out of the same situation by installing the latest pwlib. I believe I have the latest installed, see below. Brian pwlib-plugins-v4l2 - V4L2 support for pwlib This plugin enables 'video for linux' (version 2) support (e.g. for USB cameras) for pwlib. The level of support is unspecified pwlib-plugins-v4l2-1.10.10-56.2 - V4L2 support for pwlib This is the old plugin. ekiga 3.0 compiles only with the latest versions of ptlib (previously caled pwlib) and opal: ptlib 2.4.2 (you have here 1.10.10) and opal 3.4.2. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Compile Problem
Damien, FYI I have just got on to the suse forum to see if I could get some help. Keyed in ekiga and the very first hit I get was somebody saying they have just upgraded to 11.1 and it does not work. Later, Brian PS. I will try to find out who the old packager was and see if they can help. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Compile Problem
Eugen, Only to discover that suse dropped support for resmgr after 10.3. It nolonger exists in 11.1. Suse now appears to use hal-resmgr. Once I figured out what libs were required where, I coped, but I do not understand how to proceed with this one. Is it possible to remove the requirement to load resmgr? I didn't know what resmgr is, so I took a look at http://www.lst.de/~okir/resmgr. In debian, my machine, resmgr does not exist. I searched resmgr in ekiga, ptlib and opal, and I haven't found it either. So I imagine it's suse which adds it to the command line?? Look at the parameters of gcc (gcc -v or other flags, I don't know). Also, try to install the package providing resmgr library. On my system the following files reference resmgr. file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/libekiga_engine.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/.libs/libekiga_engine.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/libekiga.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/.libs/libekiga.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/gui/gtk-core/libgmgtk-core.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/gui/gtk-core/.libs/libgmgtk-core.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/gui/gtk-frontend/libgmgtk-frontend.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/gui/gtk-frontend/.libs/libgmgtk-frontend.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/gui/libgmwidgets.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/gui/.libs/libgmwidgets.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/toolbox/libtoolbox.la file:///Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/toolbox/.libs/libtoolbox.la On your debian system do you use *.la files at all? If not then I need to look at why I do. Thanks, Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Compile Problem
Fabrice, a quick mail to say I successfully compiled ekiga 3.0.1 on my OpenSUSE 11.1 (x86_64 version) at work past afternoon. just using the sources tarballs provided at www.ekiga.org I used standard ./configure command the only noticable thing is that I had to provide --libdir=/usr/lib64 explicitelly. Great, at least we know it is possible. Can I ask if you did a new install of 11.1 or an upgrade? I am using the same tarballs as you but somehow I end up looking for resmgr. I'll resend a mail tomorrow with the exact ./configure command I used when I'll be back at work. Will give it another go as soon as I get it. Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Compile Problem
Eugen, pwlib-plugins-v4l2-1.10.10-56.2 - V4L2 support for pwlib This is the old plugin. Yes I agree, unfortunately emails do not convey levels of frustration:) ekiga 3.0 compiles only with the latest versions of ptlib (previously caled pwlib) and opal: ptlib 2.4.2 (you have here 1.10.10) and opal 3.4.2. I have 3.0.1 plus Opal 3.4.3 plus ptlib 2.4.2 here each in a separate directory. I compiled opal and ptlib with no apparent problem. However, try as I might I could not get 3.0.1 to compile. Is there some subtle thing I am missing like putting opal and ptlib in some directory? Telling ekiga where to find the other two? Also not I am running a kde system, so I think it even money that I am missing some gnome stuff. After about two days I have up and went back to the supplied suse version, with as you correctly say pwlib problems. With this the echo test to 5...@ekiga.net works but no video etc. In a nutshell I know I really need to get 3.0.1 going. The frustrating thing is that a friend dropped it in on a deb system and was making calls within 30mins:) Thanks, Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Compile Problem
Damien, Can you provide a full log ? Do you mean from a ekiga -d 4? I fear the V4L2 plugin is not installed, but only the 'deprecated' V4L2 plugin... I agree, that is what it looks like and last time I got out of the same situation by installing the latest pwlib. I believe I have the latest installed, see below. Brian pwlib-plugins-v4l2 - V4L2 support for pwlib This plugin enables 'video for linux' (version 2) support (e.g. for USB cameras) for pwlib. The level of support is unspecified pwlib-plugins-v4l2-1.10.10-56.2 - V4L2 support for pwlib /usr/lib/pwlib/devices/videoinput /usr/lib/pwlib/devices/videoinput/v4l2_pwplugin.so 2 files total pwlib-plugins-v4l2 - V4L2 support for pwlib Alternate Version 1.10.10-56.2 Installed Version 1.10.10-120.55 Build Time: Wed Dec 10 12:02:58 2008 Wed Dec 3 20:36:20 2008 Install Time: Fri Dec 26 15:29:35 2008 Package Group: System/Libraries License: MOZILLA PUBLIC LICENSE (MPL/NPL) Installed Size: 105.0 K 83.0 K Download Size: 34.0 K 0 B Distribution: openSUSE 11.1 Vendor: openSUSE Build Service openSUSE Packager: http://bugs.opensuse.org Architecture: i586 i586 Build Host: URL: http://www.openh323.org/ http://www.openh323.org/ Media No.: 0 0 Authors: Equivalence Pty. Ltd. supp...@equival.com.au Equivalence Pty. Ltd. supp...@equival.com.au ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Compile Problem
Damien, Lets tackle one problem at a time:) argument `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.3/../../../libsigc-2.0.la' Do you have the devel versions of libsigc++2 installed ? Yes I do, the libsigc-2.0.la is not in it. However, I think this may be a package problem(don't quote me:) I did a search for libsigc-2.0.la across my whole system(I have a 10.0 a 10.3 and a 11.1 of suse) and it was only found in the old 10.0 system. So either I have not installed some gnome requirement or the file is no longer valid on newer systems. Then I noticed that this file is called by libtool. I had to install libtool on my system, but you have a shell script called libtool in the /ekiga-3.0.1 directory. I renamed this to see if it would pick up my system libtool and it said /bin/sh: ../../../../libtool: No such file or directory make[6]: *** [liblocal-roster.la] Error 127 make[6]: Leaving directory `/Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/presence/local-roster' etc. Which is correct as I had just renamed it. I guess my question is, should it be using my system libtool? If not what do I have to install to satisfy your libtool so that it can find libsigc-2.0.la, if it is still valid? BTW I am running the normal ./configure make with no flags on either Thanks, Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Compile Problem
Hi, I am trying to compile ekiga 3.0.1 on a SUSE 11.1 system. I am not sure if there are two problems or they are related. 1) My configure comes up with configure:5040: gcc -E conftest.c conftest.c:14:28: error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory configure:5046: $? = 1 configure: failed program was: | /* confdefs.h. */ | #define PACKAGE_NAME ekiga | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME ekiga | #define PACKAGE_VERSION 3.0.1 | #define PACKAGE_STRING ekiga 3.0.1 | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=ekiga; | #define PACKAGE ekiga | #define VERSION 3.0.1 | #define MAJOR_VERSION 3 | #define MINOR_VERSION 0 | #define BUILD_TYPE ReleaseCode | #define BUILD_NUMBER 1 | /* end confdefs.h. */ | #include ac_nonexistent.h configure:5079: result: gcc -E configure:5108: gcc -E conftest.c configure:5114: $? = 0 configure:5145: gcc -E conftest.c conftest.c:14:28: error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory configure:5151: $? = 1 configure: failed program was: | /* confdefs.h. */ | #define PACKAGE_NAME ekiga | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME ekiga | #define PACKAGE_VERSION 3.0.1 | #define PACKAGE_STRING ekiga 3.0.1 | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=ekiga; | #define PACKAGE ekiga | #define VERSION 3.0.1 | #define MAJOR_VERSION 3 | #define MINOR_VERSION 0 | #define BUILD_TYPE ReleaseCode | #define BUILD_NUMBER 1 | /* end confdefs.h. */ 2) The make fails with libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.3/../../../libsigc-2.0.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.3/../../../libsigc-2.0.la' make[6]: *** [liblocal-roster.la] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/presence/local-roster' make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[5]: Leaving directory `/Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine/presence' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib/engine' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib' make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1/lib' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/Documents/SOURCE/SUSE11/ekiga-3.0.1' make: *** [all] Error 2 I have libsigc(2.2.2-40.25) installed. /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.0.0.0 Would I be better off trying to use the head version? If so what is the svn command for it? FYI, I tried to use the supplied ekiga from suse 11.1 but it would not give me the option to use a V4L2 camera. Also I nolonger get the option to do a test during the config wizard. Thanks, Brian ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Logitech Webcam (Not GO) solution
Back when I was a highly-paid engineer in Chicago, one of these little Logitech Webcams got into my stable of parts- musta been 1996-97. I wasted THREE HOURS trying to get the thing working under Windows, but grinned brightly when I plugged it into Linux and it worked right out of the box. Fast forward to now: I just spent my 5th hour and final hour going over google, trying to re-establish this kind of relationship. Everything's newer now, and I understand that, going to 0v511-jpeg, spcxxx, and so on. But short of getting out the source code and wasting the afternoon (why?) I thought I'd ask if someone in this audience has one of them working. Maybe I'll get a reply before someone empties the trashcan. :) I'm running a very 'clean' Ubuntu Hardy, no sourcecode or special projects to get in the way. I'm getting the 'usb-returned -28' thing, which I'm told is supposed to be the same as no space left on device. I really don't want to break into source code; I shouldn't have to- it's the foundational device on which all these others were built, and it once took nothing at all. (We're regressing the way Microsoft's been doing, lately). If you have one of these under Linux, didn't have to hack into the source code, let me know, aye? I'd sure appreciate it. -- Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Logitech Webcam (Not GO) solution
Edward Dunagin wrote: I have a Logitech Quickcam USB running under Hardy and Ekiga 2.0.12 and had no trouble setting it up. It too is very old. Also using v4l.. Hope this helps.ed Actually there are two versions of their webcam between mine and yours; unfortunately yours and ones that followed are the only ones they [writers AND webcam designers] chose to move forward with. That's ok. It's already where it needed to go. I had an IRMan like this the other day; I spent $35 on it back in those days. I must have put dozens of man-hours into getting it to work on various versions of Redhat, then Fedora, then Ubuntu, but it worked for like...30 minutes in it's lifetime. Every once in a while ya need to throw things away, ya know? AND MAN, did it feel good! :) -- Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN ICQ: 5119262 AOL/Yahoo/GoogleTalk: WheelDweller ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list