Re: [Ekiga-list] Maybe was asked lot of time... what is the best platform for ekiga?
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 12:22 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: > Le jeudi 03 décembre 2009 à 11:14 +, Anres Moya a écrit : > > > Ok. I see now. The key is not not to use this (3) alpha version. Strange > > it advertised on website. What is the best way to install stable > > backport on ubuntu 9.10? Just few days with this system. > > > > linphone works with video. But it shows plain messages, so if other side > > uses formated type i am reading all XML messages including "user typing > > message" that is boring ;) My router changes headers so my kamailio deny > > its requests with content-length mismatch. Connecting via VPN as > > workaround ;) Hm, good idea to try Ekiga on VPN, > > > Ekiga 3.2.6 is supposed to be stable. We ran thousands of calls with > it without problem. > > However, external dependancies like pulseaudio or ALSA are sometimes > giving problems. > > > > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ Be IP : http://www.beip.be/ >FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ >SIP Phone : sip:dsand...@ekiga.net > > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list Damien, It is nice to point the finger at someone else, but I'm afraid this is ekiga's problem for 3.2.5 and 3.2.6. I have sent dumps to Yannick after moving to Ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04 with both releases containing NO sound and Windows followed suit. The last stable release of ekiga I've seen is 3.0.1 I even removed pulseaudio from 9.10 which did release SKYPE to select ALSA. I have also told Yannick that Berkeleytips new Asterisk server works fine both audio and video which leads back to your SERVER. I have been forced to return to SKYPE because it works. Stu ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Yannick, Just visited the new site, nice job. Stu On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 23:01 +0100, yannick wrote: > Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 21:01 +0100, geo cherchetout a écrit : > > Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos : > > > Hi, > > > > > > We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to > > > manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors > > > expected it. > > > > > > We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested. > > > > > > For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience, > > > explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a > > > Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga. > > > > Hello Yannick, > > > > On the main page, in the window "Get Ekiga!" the link "Download Ekiga" is > > broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads > > > > > > Indeed. Thank you. It is fixed now. > > Best regards, > Yannick > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Re (2): Re (2): Reaching a north american telephone number via Diamond
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 12:51 +0300, darkfena313 wrote: > Damien Sandras wrote: > > Le lundi 31 août 2009 à 15:24 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca a écrit : > > > >> Folk, > >> > >> Registration of my account is reported for both > >> sip.diamondcard.us and for eugw.ast.diamondcard.us. > >> I guess that eugw.ast.diamondcard.us is an older > >> domain name. The Diamond instructions specify > >> sip.diamondcard.us. Well, in both cases I appear > >> to get access to the Diamond gateway. So far, > >> so good! > >> > >> Incidentally, in the Ekiga account configuration > >> window, what is the distinction between "User" and > >> "Authentication User"? I have them both set > >> to the 6 digit Diamond account number beginning > >> with "4"; not to my user name, peasthope. > >> > >> To test, I dial > >> sip:4...@sip.diamondcard.us and > >> sip:4...@eugw.ast.diamondcard.us > >> according to the extant registration. > >> Also > >> sip:12506293...@sip.diamondcard.us and > >> sip:12506293...@eugw.ast.diamondcard.us . > >> > >> In all cases, no connection is ever really established. > >> "Call completed" status appears within a few milliseconds. > >> > > > > Please post a -d 4 output with one only account active, and a call > > attempt. > > > are you using the newest ekiga? 3.0? I'm not sure what you're attempting but 911,311&411 are hands off in most voip systems try a real number. Stu > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Reaching a north american telephone number via Diamond
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 19:11 +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: > Le samedi 29 août 2009 à 18:53 +0200, yannick a écrit : > > peasth...@shaw.ca a écrit : > > > Folk, > > > > > > Ekiga 3.2.5 in Debian Squeeze has succeeded with > > > one call to a Gizmo client in a Windows XP system. > > > Progress; thanks! > > > > > > Does anyone use the Diamond gateway service in > > > North America? When attempting to reach a > > > telephone, Ekiga fails after a very brief attempt. > > > The message in the status line was "call completed" > > > as I recall; sorry to be indefinite but the machine > > > is on another island. > > > > > > I might have the wrong syntax. This is one of > > > my contacts. > > > sip:16048227...@sip.diamondcard.us > > > 604 is the area code. Can anyone tell me whether > > > that should work? I ask because Skype requires > > > "+1604..." and "604..." could also be plausible. > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Try this method: > > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Calling#The_default_provider > > > > Or ask DiamondCard support for the real number format. (I have no idea > what it is in the US). > -- > _ Damien Sandras I use diamondcard in the US and other places. the escape sequence is 001xx. I had an diamondcard for a couple of years. Stu > (o- > //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ Be IP : http://www.beip.be/ >FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ >SIP Phone : sip:dsand...@ekiga.net > > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Win32 Ekiga 3.2.5 preview
On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 22:54 +0200, yannick wrote: > Michael Rickmann a écrit : > > available at http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/ . They are the files > > containing 3.2.5 . I think that is about what I can achieve at the > > moment. Refinements will follow. Please test!! If you do not have > > Windows, free some 30 -50G partition on one of your disks, google for > > "Windows 7" (I think MS is doing a good job now), get it, install it, > > convince grub to start it (may be tricky), install Ekiga and test. > > Michael > > Following it to users ml: > > If you use windows, please test this version: > http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~mrickma/ekiga/ekiga-setup-3.2.5-release.exe (18MB) > > Please report issues with it. > > Best regards, > Yannick Yannick I have downloaded your new windows and installed it. I experienced NO problems during the install. After the install the WOULD NOT load an ERROR message "Ekiga is free Voice over IP phone has encountered a problem and needs to close". Upon clicking on the more information line, the following appears Error signature, AppName: ekiga.exe App/Ver: 3.2.5.0 ModName: ekiga.exe. New line Modver: 3.2.5.0 Offset: 000c1e5c. It seemed to unstall very thing and I've even tried rebooting long to encounter the same error. I'm currently running XP,sp1,sp2,sp3. Stu (wsl3rd) > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga 3.2.1 taking too much cpu
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 12:40 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> Eugen Dedu wrote:
> > Damien Sandras wrote:
> >> Le jeudi 11 juin 2009 à 11:37 -0400, H.S. a écrit :
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> After a recent upgrade we got new Ekiga in Debian Testing (Ekiga
> >>> 3.2.1~git20090515.9d0263-1). Wonderful, since the last version (3.2.0)
> >>> was segfaulting (due to ptlib I think). But now this new version is
> >>> keeping the CPU busy and the audio is choppy. It used to work
> >>> wonderfully in an earlier version (2.0.12 IIRC).
> >>>
> >>> The problem is usually during a call. CPU usage jumps to 20~50% and the
> >>> audio becomes broken and choppy. It appears as though Ekiga is using up
> >>> too many system resources.
> >>>
> >>> I posted on Debian user mailing list and some have suggested I compile
> >>> the newest version. Before I do anything like that, I am hoping there
> >>> might be a fix for this problem, or at least an explanation.
> >>>
> >>> Anybody else see this problem? I am using the new KDE with pulseaudio.
> >>> Also, I have these installed:
> >>> $> dpkg -l ekiga libasou* *opal* libpt* | grep ^i | gawk '{print $2 "
> >>> " $3}'
> >>> ekiga 3.2.1~git20090515.9d0263-1
> >>> libasound2 1.0.20-2
> >>> libasound2-dev 1.0.20-2
> >>> libasound2-plugins 1.0.19-2
> >>> libopal-2.2 2.2.11~dfsg1-4
> >>> libopal3.6.1 3.6.1~dfsg-1
> >>> libpt-1.10.10 1.10.10-3
> >>> libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa 1.10.10-3
> >>> libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l 1.10.10-3
> >>> libpt2.6.1 2.6.1-2
> >>> libpt2.6.1-plugins-alsa 2.6.1-2
> >>> libpt2.6.1-plugins-v4l2 2.6.1-2
> >>> libpth20 2.0.7-12
> >>> libpthread-stubs0 0.1-2
> >>> libpthread-stubs0-dev 0.1-2
> >>
> >> We never heard of such a problem before...
> >
> > Seems related: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581019
> >
> > I noticed also the audio choppy (i.e. each 5-15 sec, I do not hear
> > anything for 1 sec.)
> >
>
> Tried this on Ubuntu Jaunty as well. Similar problem. Ekiga CPU usage
> jumps to 30~40%.
>
> --
>
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I have just upgraded to 9.04 (i386). I'm experiencing the same problems
in addition to Horizontal stripping of once perfect video. I mean a
single light row and then darker clear row thoughtout the picture. The
audio gap is averaging a second to 2 second when testing on the
5...@ekiga.net. None of this was present on 7.10 or 8.04 under ekiga
3.0.1.
Stu
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Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga 3.2 is in Ubuntu 9.04
Good to hear more from you, I assume you've really been busy. My question is what about a large number of us running Ubuntu 8.04 32 bit mode? I'm especially interested in the WEB camera drivers. They don't seem to be updated when I upgraded both of my systems from 7.10 and secondly the white pages haven't work at least on my system since Ekiga 2.0.12. Stu Lesnett On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 17:47 +0200, yannick wrote: > yannick a écrit : > > H.S. a écrit : > >> yannick wrote: > >>> yannick a écrit : > Hello, > > Ken VanDine from Ubuntu made a package of Ekiga 3.2 for the incoming > Ubuntu 9.04, it lacks several codecs but it is important to try it for a > possible integration to the next stable release of Ubuntu. > > Further information and package here: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/341367 > > Best regards, > Yannick > >>> Ekiga 3.2 has been approved for Ubuntu 9.04: > >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/341367/comments/21 > > > >> Any news about the number of codecs included with it? > > > >> Thanks. > > > > > > Ekiga 3.2.0 just hited the official repository for Ubuntu 9.04, it has > > the G722 audio codec and all the audio codecs previously present. Video > > codecs are H261 and Theora. > > > > Codecs lacking are: > > Audio: CELT and ILBC > > Video: H263, H263-1998, MP4V-ES, H264 > > > > I opened a bug report in Ubuntu BTS about this issue here: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/351606 > > > > In this bug report: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opal/+bug/316971 > a user builded packages for some codecs lacking in the official Ekiga > 3.2 package for Ubuntu Jaunty. > > For now the video codec H.264 and the audio codec iLBC are available in > its PPA: > https://launchpad.net/~bojo42/+archive/ekiga > > He asked for testing them. Any testers are welcome, please report on the > bug report mentionned above. > > > Best regards, > > Yannick > ___ > Ekiga-devel-list mailing list > ekiga-devel-l...@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] sip providers besides diamondcard
Cheapvoice.com might fill your request. good luck.. On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 00:09 +0300, Fedor vonBock wrote: > Hi, > Would anyone recommend any sip provider besides diamondcard offering > cheap rates? > > i'm looking from something suitable for the middle east region 'cause > the rates for the countries here is much more expensive (using either > diamondcard or skype) > > > > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] For or against ?
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 10:25 -0400, Stuart Lesnett wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 11:56 +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Would you be for or against such a scheme ? > > > > http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Fee+Announcement+from+Free+World > > +Dialup > > > Damien, > > I think it depend on what you're trying to accomplish. The URL > provides a considerable amount of information which can be good, if > people find there answers or bad and by bad I mean heading them in the > wrong path. > > In the past several months you seem to be driven toward MS windows and > a SKYPE competitive environment. There seems to be enough differences > in each LINUX vendors release to continue to cause your unpaid staff > problems, so what is your object. SKYPE has already made in-roads > with TMobile and WIFI phones access and their LINUX release, ego, me > seem to work well. > > Even with the problems I've encountered with EKIGA. I continue to try > using it even with my open bugzilla problem, open source provides a > longer fix time and less customer criticism. I personally know I > would like to loose SKYPE after 3 years but it works on all my > platforms and things seem to get fixed. I would NOT like to see you > and your staff fall into the MS category of the blame game and start > using the terms "call the manufacture or OEMer", we can't help. Money > is one thing but general customer satisfaction is another. > > I do wish the best of luck and will save the URL you provided. > > Regards, > W. Stu Lesnett III > > > > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list Damien, I do apologize, I missed the +Dialup portion of the URL. I'm wondering just what the annual $30 fee is really for the SIP or something else. In first trying your software you pointed us toward DIAMOND CARD?? Sorry again, Stu ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] For or against ?
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 11:56 +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: > Hello, > > > Would you be for or against such a scheme ? > > http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Fee+Announcement+from+Free+World > +Dialup Damien, I think it depend on what you're trying to accomplish. The URL provides a considerable amount of information which can be good, if people find there answers or bad and by bad I mean heading them in the wrong path. In the past several months you seem to be driven toward MS windows and a SKYPE competitive environment. There seems to be enough differences in each LINUX vendors release to continue to cause your unpaid staff problems, so what is your object. SKYPE has already made in-roads with TMobile and WIFI phones access and their LINUX release, ego, me seem to work well. Even with the problems I've encountered with EKIGA. I continue to try using it even with my open bugzilla problem, open source provides a longer fix time and less customer criticism. I personally know I would like to loose SKYPE after 3 years but it works on all my platforms and things seem to get fixed. I would NOT like to see you and your staff fall into the MS category of the blame game and start using the terms "call the manufacture or OEMer", we can't help. Money is one thing but general customer satisfaction is another. I do wish the best of luck and will save the URL you provided. Regards, W. Stu Lesnett III > ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Support
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 12:12 +0200, yannick wrote: > Le samedi 02 août 2008 à 23:26 -0400, Stuart Lesnett a écrit : > > > > On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 15:20 +0200, yannick wrote: > > > Le vendredi 01 août 2008 à 23:52 +0200, yannick a écrit : > > > > Intrepid miss H264, H263-98, MPEG4 > > > > > > I found the current version of ffmpeg in Intrepid lacks encoders for > > > H263-98 and MPEG4. > > > > > > I reported this as a bug here: > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg-debian/+bug/254201 > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Yannick > > > -- > > > Me joindre en téléphonie IP / vidéoconférence ? > > > sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org > > > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F > > > > > > ___ > > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > ekiga-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > > > Yannick, > > > > Since you mentioned bugs, I reported a bug (problem) over a month ago > > gnome/ekiga 541091 including a dump and still have not seen any > > action. Am I to assume, your group isn't fixing these problems? > > Hello Stu, > > Thank you for reporting your issue in our bug tracking system. It is > really kind of you and a very helpful practise, quality-wise. > > Unfortunately, few of us have the skills to understand the debug output > you provided and we are currently busy working to release a really big > upgrade of Ekiga, the version 3.0. This explain the delay you are > facing. We are a bunch of people working on Ekiga in our spare time, > none of use is sponsored/pay to do this job. > > I'll try to help you in our bug tracking system. > > Best regards, > Yannick > > > > > Stu > > ___ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- > Me joindre en téléphonie IP / vidéoconférence ? > sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list Thanks for at least acknowledging it. I do understand the pressures of new releases. I will keep watching. Stu ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Packages are back and almost fixed
On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 15:20 +0200, yannick wrote: > Le vendredi 01 août 2008 à 23:52 +0200, yannick a écrit : > > Intrepid miss H264, H263-98, MPEG4 > > I found the current version of ffmpeg in Intrepid lacks encoders for > H263-98 and MPEG4. > > I reported this as a bug here: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg-debian/+bug/254201 > > Best regards, > Yannick > -- > Me joindre en téléphonie IP / vidéoconférence ? > sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list Yannick, Since you mentioned bugs, I reported a bug (problem) over a month ago gnome/ekiga 541091 including a dump and still have not seen any action. Am I to assume, your group isn't fixing these problems? Stu ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga 3 with h.264
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 19:07 +0200, yannick wrote: > Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 11:29 -0400, Stuart Lesnett a écrit : > > Yannick, , I've just visited your URL and only found 2.0.11 > > information nothing newer?? > > Hu? Which URL are you talking about? > > > > > Stu > -- > Me joindre en téléphonie IP / vidéoconférence ? > sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list The one you listed earlier: Take a look here: > https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive > > Best regards, > Yannick > > > -- > > Regards, ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga 3 with h.264
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:38 +0200, yannick wrote: > Le lundi 28 juillet 2008 à 19:04 +0530, vinay simha a écrit : > > 1)is there ekiga 3 for ubuntu gutsy lpia with h.264 binary edition or > > sources, > > 2) IF ekiga 3 is not available for ubuntu gutsy then is there any > > option to add codec of h.264 to ekiga 2.0.11,and please specify the > > steps to add codec of h.264 to gutsy lpia > > > > Hi, > > I build binaries for Gutsy of Ekiga 3 with H.264. But I never succeed to > build for lpia... > > Take a look here: > https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive > > Best regards, > Yannick > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Vinay Simha.B.N. > > > > > > > > ___ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- > Me joindre en téléphonie IP / vidéoconférence ? > sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org > http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list Yannick, , I've just visited your URL and only found 2.0.11 information nothing newer?? Stu ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga 3.00 available for WIN32 *only*
> If I switch from Skype to Acme, I need to make sure everybody has the new > contact details. And in Skype there isn't even anything like call forwarding. > Consumer protection agencies together with telecom regulators in many parts > of the world have fighted for years to enable portability of phone numbers as > this is a prerequisite for serious competition among telcos (fixed and > mobile). Why would we want to drop these achievements without any need? > > Coming back to the infancy of VoIP telephony: Don't mix up geeks and the rest > of us. Skype looks successful, because a lot of people who have a PC have > downloaded it once in their live. There is a ratio of downloaded copies > versus users online of 10:1 or worse. And even if you take the some 2-digit > million downloads of Skype, that would make for a market share in the single > digit percents. No, not of the VoIP market, of the telephone calls market. > Any medium sized european country will have more GSM subscribers than Skype > worldwide. > > I can see a number of roadblocks for the further success of VoIP telephony: > > * Protocol fight. That SIP / H.323 / IAX2 thing is like the VHS / Beta or > HD-DVD / BlueRay thing. Did SMTP / RFC822 ever have to seriously compete > against any other protocols? I am very frustrated that often I can find a > VoIP termination provider which is offering nice rates for a certain > destination, but unfortunately, they don't speak my protocol. > > * The de-facto ENUM boycott. There is exactly one way to handle this IMO: > Regulation. Period. Telco's don't want is, as they did not want number > portability as they did not want a lot of other things. > > * Flatrates and the GSM revolution. I know a number of countries where people > know fixed line phones just from old movies and laught at it. Where people > still use landline phones, more often than not you can get a flatrate for > unlimited national landline calls, for a bit more also national mobile > networks or landlines on the same continent. The argument that VoIP is > cheaper only work in niche situations any more. On the other hand, if GSM > operators keep one thing up, it's their termination fees. (They usually keep > them exactly at what the regulators allow them to charge.) > > There is nothing wrong with GSM, don't get me wrong. But again, IMO > regulation would be needed to force them to open up their networks to VoIP. > > If all that would happen, then a VoIP client (such as Ekiga for example) > would be as popular as a webbrowser (such as Mozilla, for example) just > because everybody needs it, not just some geeks. > > And by the way: > > > (1) Damien currently has 248 error reports on bugzilla unresolved > > No, not Damien. The Ekiga community. If you're annoyed by a bug, you got two > choices: Use something else which is better (for many people this isn't > Skype) or fix it. If you're a business and have a business need: Pay someone > to fix it. > > Regards, > Torsten > > Original-Nachricht > > Datum: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:17:49 -0400 > > Von: Stuart Lesnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > An: Ekiga mailing list > > Betreff: Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga 3.00 available > > for WIN32 *only* > > > If find Dee's comment interesting since, I came from the Windows/Skype > > community to investigate UBUNTU/Ekiga or at that time gnome community. > > I think 2 things have happend: (1) Damien currently has 248 error > > reports on bugzilla unresolved and the ekiga windows package even in > > beta form has always run much better. (2) SKYPE own this all ready > > established market and he's looking for a free ride. > > > > > > Personally, I have had nothing but link-ekiga and received nothing but > > attitude from Damien some of the other staff members have very hard and > > my thanks to them. > > > > > > I hope they will work to cleanup the current bugs on linux. I have used > > SKYPE for 2 years very successfully. > > > > Stu > > > > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 09:20 +, D Webb wrote: > > > > > > Le mercredi 02 avril 2008 à 00:57 +0200, Torsten Schlabach a > > > écrit : > > > > > Mhmmm ... > > > > > > > > > > 2 hours before the end of April 1st! > > > > > > > > > > You got me for some minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was indeed an April Fool ;-) > > > > -- > > > > _ Damien Sandras > > > > > > Sad! Windows is a commercial operating system. Commercial software > > > is quite fitting. It is now 2 April and I am not fooling. > > > > > > Dee > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. > > > > > > ___ > > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > ekiga-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga 3.00 available for WIN32 *only*
If find Dee's comment interesting since, I came from the Windows/Skype community to investigate UBUNTU/Ekiga or at that time gnome community. I think 2 things have happend: (1) Damien currently has 248 error reports on bugzilla unresolved and the ekiga windows package even in beta form has always run much better. (2) SKYPE own this all ready established market and he's looking for a free ride. Personally, I have had nothing but link-ekiga and received nothing but attitude from Damien some of the other staff members have very hard and my thanks to them. I hope they will work to cleanup the current bugs on linux. I have used SKYPE for 2 years very successfully. Stu On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 09:20 +, D Webb wrote: > > Le mercredi 02 avril 2008 à 00:57 +0200, Torsten Schlabach a > écrit : > > > Mhmmm ... > > > > > > 2 hours before the end of April 1st! > > > > > > You got me for some minutes. > > > > > > > It was indeed an April Fool ;-) > > -- > > _ Damien Sandras > > Sad! Windows is a commercial operating system. Commercial software > is quite fitting. It is now 2 April and I am not fooling. > > Dee > > > __ > Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Got SIP response 500 "Server Internal Error" back from 86.64.162.35
IT may not be well maintained but at least it works.. TO bad the Linux UBUNTU 7.10 version doesn't run that well. On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 20:47 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: > Unfortunately, the Windows version is not well maintained :( > > Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 à 15:43 -0400, Stuart Lesnett a écrit : > > 500 and 501 has not worked in our location for 3 days. I fact I don't > > know where you trying it from but it didn't work 10 minutes ago. I've > > just checked my Windows-XP version and it is running 500 but 501 does > > not have the introduction. So, I think you using a windows machine > > instead of Ubuntu 7.10, in fact in the morning we received the > > security check failure. > > > > Good Luck. > > Stu > > > > > > On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 19:38 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: > > > Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 à 11:59 -0600, Edward Dunagin a écrit : > > > > I don't know about the error number, but just now,, 500 will not accept > > > > calld > > > > > > > > > > It seems to work now. > > > -- > > > _ Damien Sandras > > > (o- > > > //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > > > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ > > >FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ > > >SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > ekiga-list mailing list > > > ekiga-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > > ___ > > ekiga-list mailing list > > ekiga-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ >FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ >SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Got SIP response 500 "Server Internal Error" back from 86.64.162.35
500 and 501 has not worked in our location for 3 days. I fact I don't know where you trying it from but it didn't work 10 minutes ago. I've just checked my Windows-XP version and it is running 500 but 501 does not have the introduction. So, I think you using a windows machine instead of Ubuntu 7.10, in fact in the morning we received the security check failure. Good Luck. Stu On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 19:38 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: > Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 à 11:59 -0600, Edward Dunagin a écrit : > > I don't know about the error number, but just now,, 500 will not accept > > calld > > > > It seems to work now. > -- > _ Damien Sandras > (o- > //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ > v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ >FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ >SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > ekiga-list mailing list > ekiga-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Video test
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 18:57 -0700, Edward Dunagin wrote: > On the help wiki it has this: > Date: 2007-12-27: The test service begins with a voice explaining what > will happen, then the echo test begins. The echo test is both an audio > and a video echo function, so when this is running, you can choose to > see local video from your camera or remote video from the remote > machine's echo signal. > > I see no video test when calling 500. > > help please > > Ed, I've encountered the same problem. Request a video because of it. Stu ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
