Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-03-08 Thread Jan Schampera
On Do, 8.03.2007, 11:06, Damien Sandras sagte:

 I have always wondered :
 - should we keep using SERWEB ?
 - should we rewrite it?

 We only use minor features :
 - subscribing
 - modifying account details

 So perhaps modifying it would be the best.

 Perhaps also we could simply write some PHP script for the Call Me
 function, and in Ekiga, we would put a Call Me button that triggers it
 and thus triggers a call.

 Julien, Jan, Yannick, what do you think ?

Hi!

If SERWEB is only our user management tool, and really nothing else, we
shouldn't need it, IMHO, no?
What do we use out of SER itself?

J.


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-20 Thread Damien Sandras
Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 23:31 +0100, Jure Petrovic a écrit :
 
 I have empty methods inside g729codec.cxx, so file compiles
 on command line. How can I get this linked to 
 libopal library? (I don't care if they're empty for now)
 
 

It should generate a plugin (with OPAL CVS) in plugins/pwlib/, but I
guess, only if the voiceage library is present (there is a README).


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-20 Thread Jure Petrovic

Opal CVS is not a problem. I read your article about .so
plugins.

What about OPAL release? Do I have to edit Makefile manually?


 It should generate a plugin (with OPAL CVS) in plugins/pwlib/, but I
 guess, only if the voiceage library is present (there is a README).


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-20 Thread Damien Sandras
Le mardi 20 février 2007 à 10:00 +0100, Jure Petrovic a écrit :
 Opal CVS is not a problem. I read your article about .so
 plugins.
 
 What about OPAL release? Do I have to edit Makefile manually?
 

I think so, but I'm sorry, I have never done that, so I can guide you to
a precise way of doing things.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers?

2007-02-20 Thread Luc Saillard
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 04:32:05PM -0800, JCA wrote:

 refuses to compile on my Slackware 11.0 box:
 
 vidinput_v4l2.h:157: error: field `videoCapability' has incomplete type
 vidinput_v4l2.h:158: error: field `videoStreamParm' has incomplete type
 vidinput_v4l2.cxx:219: error: `V4L2_PIX_FMT_GREY' was not declared in this 
 scope

V4L2 plugins use Linux kernel header. So you must have a recent Linux kernel
header in /usr/include/linux to build pwlib. By default Slackware comes with
a 2.4 kernel so it can't be used. Try to install the 2.6.17.13, if it's help.

Quote from the website:
Slackware 11.0 contains the 2.4.33.3 Linux kernel, 2.6.17.13 in /extra and
2.6.18 in the /testing directory; the default boot option is the dependable
2.4.33.3 kernel, but this time we included more choices and support for 2.6.x
kernels.

Luc
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-20 Thread Jure Petrovic
 I think so, but I'm sorry, I have never done that, so I can guide you
 to
 a precise way of doing things. 

Don't worry. I am back on CVS :)

configure: error: Sorry but the recommended OPAL version is 2.3.2

I have libopal 2.3.2 !! From www.ekiga.org, cvs snapshots
 



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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-20 Thread Jure Petrovic
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 11:14 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote:
 If it tells you you do not have 2.3.2, then you do not have 2.3.2
 installed where it is looking for... 

Ok, that happens if you have 2 opal(s) installed.
Compiled ok, but now it crashes on connection established
with the following error:

2007/02/20 18:36:37.052   1:57.200  SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP
Could not find SDP media description for Video
2007/02/20 18:36:37.052   1:57.200  SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP
Could not find SDP media description for Image

Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x11518)!


No help if I disable that Enable video checkbox.


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-20 Thread Damien Sandras
Le mardi 20 février 2007 à 18:39 +0100, Jure Petrovic a écrit :
 On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 11:14 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote:
  If it tells you you do not have 2.3.2, then you do not have 2.3.2
  installed where it is looking for... 
 
 Ok, that happens if you have 2 opal(s) installed.
 Compiled ok, but now it crashes on connection established
 with the following error:
 
 2007/02/20 18:36:37.052   1:57.200  SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP
 Could not find SDP media description for Video
 2007/02/20 18:36:37.052   1:57.200  SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP
 Could not find SDP media description for Image
 
 Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x11518)!
 
 
 No help if I disable that Enable video checkbox.

Given that George is also encountering a crash, I would think Craig
recently broke something.

Can you do the same operation than George (see other e-mails sent today)
to see if it is the same crash ?
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-20 Thread Craig Southeren
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:23:58 +0100
Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Le mardi 20 février 2007 à 18:39 +0100, Jure Petrovic a écrit :
  On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 11:14 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote:
   If it tells you you do not have 2.3.2, then you do not have 2.3.2
   installed where it is looking for... 
  
  Ok, that happens if you have 2 opal(s) installed.
  Compiled ok, but now it crashes on connection established
  with the following error:
  
  2007/02/20 18:36:37.052   1:57.200  SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP
  Could not find SDP media description for Video
  2007/02/20 18:36:37.052   1:57.200  SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP
  Could not find SDP media description for Image
  
  Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x11518)!
  
  
  No help if I disable that Enable video checkbox.
 
 Given that George is also encountering a crash, I would think Craig
 recently broke something.
 
 Can you do the same operation than George (see other e-mails sent today)
 to see if it is the same crash ?

The only changes I made were to prevent error conditions causing
crashes, and should not actually change existing functionality.

I'll check SIP with video today using simpleopal and let you know how it
goes.

The two log mesages above indicate that the SDP does not contain any
video or image (fax) entries. Without seeing the SDP I can't tell if
this is true.

   Craig

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread Damien Sandras
Le dimanche 18 février 2007 à 09:39 -0800, JCA a écrit :
Before thinking of spreading Ekiga, might it not be better first to
 a) make it totally independent of Gnome, and b) get it to work at
 least as solidly as its competitors? Quite simply, these two are the
 only reasons why I can't get my organization to move to Ekiga, instead
 of the current Skype/Gizmo/Wengo mixture that we do.

a) you can compile it with --disable-gnome
b) you should report all problems you encounter, Ekiga 2.0.x is quite
stable for most users...
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread JCA
 a) you can compile it with --disable-gnome

I will try that. The point is, this should be the default.

 b) you should report all problems you encounter, Ekiga 2.0.x is quite
 stable for most users...

   I have reported my problems, and so far they remain unsolved. The
fact remains that under exactly the same conditions (platform,
distribution, kernel, sound hardware and configuration, and network)
Skype, Gizmo and Wengo are usable (not perfect, but usable) whereas
Ekiga's sound is so choppy (no matter what codec) that it is not
usable. Which is a shame, for if they were all similarly usable, Ekiga
would be my first choice.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread Damien Sandras
Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 08:19 -0800, JCA a écrit :
  a) you can compile it with --disable-gnome
 
 I will try that. The point is, this should be the default.
 
  b) you should report all problems you encounter, Ekiga 2.0.x is quite
  stable for most users...
 
I have reported my problems, and so far they remain unsolved. The
 fact remains that under exactly the same conditions (platform,
 distribution, kernel, sound hardware and configuration, and network)
 Skype, Gizmo and Wengo are usable (not perfect, but usable) whereas
 Ekiga's sound is so choppy (no matter what codec) that it is not
 usable. Which is a shame, for if they were all similarly usable, Ekiga
 would be my first choice.

Have you tried with Ekiga 2.0.5 ?

From my point of view, your problem is an ALSA problem, and it gets
annoying that users are making the confusion between ALSA problems and
Ekiga problems. 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread Natasha
Damien Sandras wrote:
 Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 08:19 -0800, JCA a écrit :
   
 Have you tried with Ekiga 2.0.5 ?
   


  I CANT EVEN GET THE LATEST VERSION TO INSTALL!  AND I may not
  know Unix that well, but I can at least get around (for
  regular easy stuff).


  I like Ekiga, and have recommended it to others, but my 2.0.1
  freezes A LOT.  I wanted to upgrade to 2.0.5 since you said
  it's ready and good.  I tried, cannot get the thing to
  install, no matter I do.  It always wants a version of pwlib
  that I don't have.  I've installed, uninstalled, reinstalled,
  used cvs sources, sources from Jan, and finally the sources
  displayed for download on the website.  I've gotten help from
  another member on this list. This is really too much time
  wasted, and now I feel like a dummy since I can't get it to
  work.  I guess I should wait for the official ubuntu package
  to update.  I'm too stupid to install it myself.

 From my point of view, your problem is an ALSA problem, and it gets
 annoying that users are making the confusion between ALSA problems and
 Ekiga problems. 
   


  THIS is PRECISELY why it's going to be hard to spread
  ekiga.  MOST ppl don't even know what ALSA is, nor cares. 
  They just want a sipphone that WORKS.  You getting annoyed
  is not right.  Explain it on the website!  Why do other
  softphones work out of the box for them but not ekiga?  Have a
  clear installation guide or faq!  You cannot blame the users,
  most have not even taken a cs course, let alone done a thesis
  on it.  Pls rethink this.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread Natasha
I thought that was the problem before and so uninstalled whatever I 
could already, before reinstall to /usr only.
But right now I checked the 'includes' and all I found was one folder 
ptlib, which I saw earlier could be connected with pwlib.
I'm thinking, if OPAL (which I dont know what it is), is related or 
works with pwlib, then maybe I have to uninstall everything and retry it 
all again.  What do I know.

Damien Sandras wrote:
 Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 11:59 -0500, Natasha a écrit :
   
 Damien Sandras wrote:
 
 Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 08:19 -0800, JCA a écrit :
   
 Have you tried with Ekiga 2.0.5 ?
   
   
   I CANT EVEN GET THE LATEST VERSION TO INSTALL!  AND I may not
   know Unix that well, but I can at least get around (for
   regular easy stuff).


   I like Ekiga, and have recommended it to others, but my 2.0.1
   freezes A LOT.  I wanted to upgrade to 2.0.5 since you said
   it's ready and good.  I tried, cannot get the thing to
   install, no matter I do.  It always wants a version of pwlib
   that I don't have.  I've installed, uninstalled, reinstalled,
   used cvs sources, sources from Jan, and finally the sources
   displayed for download on the website.  I've gotten help from
   another member on this list. This is really too much time
   wasted, and now I feel like a dummy since I can't get it to
   work.  I guess I should wait for the official ubuntu package
   to update.  I'm too stupid to install it myself.
 

 Are you sure you do not have conflicting versions installed on your
 system ? (like for example some pwlib headers in /usr/include and some
 other headers in /usr/local/include)
   

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread W.P.
cut

THIS is PRECISELY why it's going to be hard to spread
  ekiga.  MOST ppl don't even know what ALSA is, nor cares. 
  They just want a sipphone that WORKS.  You getting annoyed
  is not right.

/cut
Damien, i think she is right. It is very old difference beetween users
and programmers. There is even nice book by Alan Cooper The Inmates Are
Running the Asylum. ;(
Why don't make some patch: - option to switch sound to 44/48kHz and
donwsample in program, option with help: switch this on if Wengo/Skype
works, but ekiga not. ;) ;)

W.P.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread Damien Sandras
Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 18:43 +0100, W.P. a écrit :
 cut
 
 THIS is PRECISELY why it's going to be hard to spread
   ekiga.  MOST ppl don't even know what ALSA is, nor cares. 
   They just want a sipphone that WORKS.  You getting annoyed
   is not right.
 
 /cut
 Damien, i think she is right. It is very old difference beetween users
 and programmers. There is even nice book by Alan Cooper The Inmates Are
 Running the Asylum. ;(
 Why don't make some patch: - option to switch sound to 44/48kHz and
 donwsample in program, option with help: switch this on if Wengo/Skype
 works, but ekiga not. ;) ;)

The problem here is that we are not sure my code will work when ALSA
code does not work...

Btw, have you tried 2.0.5 ? I have done a critical fix in the ALSA
plugin for broken soundcards... It could help in your case, I am
curious to know :-)
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread Jure Petrovic

Everybody is so into this ekiga spreading stuff, that you don't 
even notice my cry for help.

 - I am trying to play around with plugins a little. Do you suggest
   stable or CVS release? 

 - How can I get va_g729 compiled in release version? 


I know it
works only in windows, but in my case g729codec.cxx is only
a stub so it compiles. Do I have to edit Makefile manually?

Btw. I am using lin since rh4.2, but I just discovered 
ekiga in fc6 as a part of distribution. In my case works
just fine and I like it, because is seamlessly integrates
with gnome desktop



On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 21:39 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote:
 The problem here is that we are not sure my code will work when ALSA
 code does not work...
 
 Btw, have you tried 2.0.5 ? I have done a critical fix in the ALSA
 plugin for broken soundcards... It could help in your case, I am
 curious to know :-) 

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread Damien Sandras
Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 22:16 +0100, Jure Petrovic a écrit :
 Everybody is so into this ekiga spreading stuff, that you don't 
 even notice my cry for help.
 
  - I am trying to play around with plugins a little. Do you suggest
stable or CVS release? 
 

CVS.

  - How can I get va_g729 compiled in release version? 
 

You can't. 

 
 I know it
 works only in windows, but in my case g729codec.cxx is only
 a stub so it compiles. Do I have to edit Makefile manually?
 

Compiling G.729a so that it works with Ekiga means compiling Ekiga for
WIN32. Do you currently have a version of Ekiga on WIN32 that you
compiled yourself ?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread Jure Petrovic


I have empty methods inside g729codec.cxx, so file compiles
on command line. How can I get this linked to 
libopal library? (I don't care if they're empty for now)



On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 22:25 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote:
 Compiling G.729a so that it works with Ekiga means compiling Ekiga for
 WIN32. Do you currently have a version of Ekiga on WIN32 that you
 compiled yourself ? 

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers?

2007-02-19 Thread JCA
 Have you tried with Ekiga 2.0.5 ?

   pwlib 1.10.4, configured with

./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-plugins --disable-oss --enable-v4l2

refuses to compile on my Slackware 11.0 box:

make[3]: Entering directory `/home/IJK/pwlib-1.10.4/plugins/vidinput_v4l2'
mkdir -p ../pwlib/device/videoinput
g++  -DP_USE_PRAGMA -D_REENTRANT -Wall  -fPIC -DPIC
-I/home/IJK/pwlib-1.10.4/include \
vidinput_names.cxx \
-I. -shared vidinput_v4l2.cxx -o
../pwlib/device/videoinput/v4l2_pwplugin.so
In file included from vidinput_v4l2.cxx:145:
vidinput_v4l2.h:157: error: field `videoCapability' has incomplete type
vidinput_v4l2.h:158: error: field `videoStreamParm' has incomplete type
vidinput_v4l2.cxx:219: error: `V4L2_PIX_FMT_GREY' was not declared in this scope

etc.

   Also, I noticed that the configure file for 2.0.5 strongly
recommends not to disable Gnome support:

  --disable-gnomeRemove GNOME support. Don't do this, it
removes essential features

   Which are those essential features?
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-19 Thread George Boyd
I would suggest that you read on Ekiga's site about how to get 2
applications running under alsa at the same time. It doesn't always work
because alsa keeps changing things. One of the biggest problems with
alsa is that it forces the jitter buffer to go wild.

I have my sound in Ekiga to use Default for the sound events. My audio
output device is set to use my sound card and the input device to use
the Default. It works very well here that way. (Default meaning the
alsa default device).

It's not a codec problem, it's alsa. If you have a full duplex sound
card you can try and use that directly or try OSS. But the settings that
I described that I'm using works well for me and most every other
computer that I've installed Ekiga on.

On a side note; I had to remove the custom alsa.config and let alsa
set it back up using Fedora's Sound Card Detection program after the
last update of alsa.



On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 08:19 -0800, JCA wrote:

  a) you can compile it with --disable-gnome
 
 I will try that. The point is, this should be the default.
 
  b) you should report all problems you encounter, Ekiga 2.0.x is quite
  stable for most users...
 
I have reported my problems, and so far they remain unsolved. The
 fact remains that under exactly the same conditions (platform,
 distribution, kernel, sound hardware and configuration, and network)
 Skype, Gizmo and Wengo are usable (not perfect, but usable) whereas
 Ekiga's sound is so choppy (no matter what codec) that it is not
 usable. Which is a shame, for if they were all similarly usable, Ekiga
 would be my first choice.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-13 Thread John B
On Monday 12 February 2007 15:33, Damien Sandras wrote: 

 Sending again.

 Le lundi 12 février 2007 à 22:32 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
  Hi all,
 
 
  Most of you already know that I want to reorganize the Ekiga team to
  bring fresh air into the project.
 
  The current active project leaders including myself would like o
  concentrate on what they do best : coding, packaging, ...
 
  Consequently, we would like to hire new contributors who will help the
  current team.
 
  Here is the list of tasks I have identified, with the proposed
  maintainers.
 
  1) CODING
  -
 
  Moving Ekiga to the 3.00 release is not a small task. People
  coordinating this task are Damien Sandras, Julien Puydt and Jan
  Schampera. New coders are welcome.
 
  2) BUG TRIAGING
  ---
 
  We are receiving bug reports, as any software would. There is a
  preliminary task before accepting a bug report. This task includes :
  checking for duplicates of that bug report, trying to reproduce it,
  making sure that all the relevant information has been given by the
  reporter and closing old bug reports.
 
  Currently, Julien, Jan and myself are doing this task with the GNOME
  bugzilla team. The best would be that some new persons take that task
  into their responsability and that we only do level 2 support for
  those bugs.
 
  3) DOCUMENTATION / FAQ
  --
 
  Writing Documentation on the WIKI and updating the FAQ is a hard job. It
  helps new users with a minimum knowledge to step in and make the
  userbase grow.
 
  I propose Yannick as responsible of this task. Yannick is doing an
  incredible job in the Ubuntu community. Native speakers will be required
  to help him in his job.
 
  4) MANUAL
  -
 
  I am the one to write the manual of Ekiga when there is a new release.
  Christopher Warner and Matthias Redlich wrote the first version of the
  manual. Ekiga 3.00 will require major updates and a new manual.
 
  We are looking for volunteers for that task too.
 
  5) PACKAGING
  
 
  Kilian is the current maintainer for http://snapshots.seconix.com.
  New architectures, new distributions should be supported and added to
  our list. Kilian will need help for that.
 
  6) WEB SERVERS
  --
 
  Having a professional look for http://ekiga.net and http://ekiga.org is
  mandatory for our image.
 
  Fabian Deutsch will coordinate the work for http://ekiga.org, the new
  site will be based on Media Wiki.
 
  We need somebody for http://ekiga.net. It will either require writing a
  skin for SERWEB or writing new code to handle registrations and welcome
  the user. Currently, http://ekiga.net is very limited.
 
  What could be done is incorporating the user signup into
  http://ekiga.org and have one unique site with a global offer. Ekiga.org
  would also give information about the Ekiga.net service but there would
  be no specific site for ekiga.net. We need volunteers for that and
  Fabian needs help.
 
  7) WORD OF MOUTH
  
 
  We need somebody to coordinate the press team. More articles about
  Ekiga, more hype, spread it !
 
  That is an important part of every project. It needs volunteers.
 
  Thanks for reading me !

I'd like to help, but I really don't know how to do any of the listed 
things (other than just reporting bugs as they come up and spreading the word 
about Ekiga) :-(
  Writing, even e-mails, just isn't even close to being a strongpoint for me.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?

2007-02-12 Thread Damien Sandras
Sending again.

Le lundi 12 février 2007 à 22:32 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 
 Most of you already know that I want to reorganize the Ekiga team to
 bring fresh air into the project.
 
 The current active project leaders including myself would like o
 concentrate on what they do best : coding, packaging, ... 
 
 Consequently, we would like to hire new contributors who will help the
 current team.
 
 Here is the list of tasks I have identified, with the proposed
 maintainers.
 
 1) CODING
 -
 
 Moving Ekiga to the 3.00 release is not a small task. People
 coordinating this task are Damien Sandras, Julien Puydt and Jan
 Schampera. New coders are welcome.
 
 2) BUG TRIAGING
 ---
 
 We are receiving bug reports, as any software would. There is a
 preliminary task before accepting a bug report. This task includes :
 checking for duplicates of that bug report, trying to reproduce it,
 making sure that all the relevant information has been given by the
 reporter and closing old bug reports.
 
 Currently, Julien, Jan and myself are doing this task with the GNOME
 bugzilla team. The best would be that some new persons take that task
 into their responsability and that we only do level 2 support for
 those bugs.
 
 3) DOCUMENTATION / FAQ
 --
 
 Writing Documentation on the WIKI and updating the FAQ is a hard job. It
 helps new users with a minimum knowledge to step in and make the
 userbase grow.
 
 I propose Yannick as responsible of this task. Yannick is doing an
 incredible job in the Ubuntu community. Native speakers will be required
 to help him in his job.
 
 4) MANUAL
 -
 
 I am the one to write the manual of Ekiga when there is a new release.
 Christopher Warner and Matthias Redlich wrote the first version of the
 manual. Ekiga 3.00 will require major updates and a new manual.
 
 We are looking for volunteers for that task too.
 
 5) PACKAGING
 
 
 Kilian is the current maintainer for http://snapshots.seconix.com.
 New architectures, new distributions should be supported and added to
 our list. Kilian will need help for that.
 
 6) WEB SERVERS
 --
 
 Having a professional look for http://ekiga.net and http://ekiga.org is
 mandatory for our image.
 
 Fabian Deutsch will coordinate the work for http://ekiga.org, the new
 site will be based on Media Wiki.
 
 We need somebody for http://ekiga.net. It will either require writing a
 skin for SERWEB or writing new code to handle registrations and welcome
 the user. Currently, http://ekiga.net is very limited.
  
 What could be done is incorporating the user signup into
 http://ekiga.org and have one unique site with a global offer. Ekiga.org
 would also give information about the Ekiga.net service but there would
 be no specific site for ekiga.net. We need volunteers for that and
 Fabian needs help.
 
 7) WORD OF MOUTH
 
 
 We need somebody to coordinate the press team. More articles about
 Ekiga, more hype, spread it !
 
 That is an important part of every project. It needs volunteers.
 
 Thanks for reading me !
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