Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
On Do, 8.03.2007, 11:06, Damien Sandras sagte: I have always wondered : - should we keep using SERWEB ? - should we rewrite it? We only use minor features : - subscribing - modifying account details So perhaps modifying it would be the best. Perhaps also we could simply write some PHP script for the Call Me function, and in Ekiga, we would put a Call Me button that triggers it and thus triggers a call. Julien, Jan, Yannick, what do you think ? Hi! If SERWEB is only our user management tool, and really nothing else, we shouldn't need it, IMHO, no? What do we use out of SER itself? J. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 23:31 +0100, Jure Petrovic a écrit : I have empty methods inside g729codec.cxx, so file compiles on command line. How can I get this linked to libopal library? (I don't care if they're empty for now) It should generate a plugin (with OPAL CVS) in plugins/pwlib/, but I guess, only if the voiceage library is present (there is a README). -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
Opal CVS is not a problem. I read your article about .so plugins. What about OPAL release? Do I have to edit Makefile manually? It should generate a plugin (with OPAL CVS) in plugins/pwlib/, but I guess, only if the voiceage library is present (there is a README). ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
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Le mardi 20 février 2007 à 10:00 +0100, Jure Petrovic a écrit : Opal CVS is not a problem. I read your article about .so plugins. What about OPAL release? Do I have to edit Makefile manually? I think so, but I'm sorry, I have never done that, so I can guide you to a precise way of doing things. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers?
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 04:32:05PM -0800, JCA wrote: refuses to compile on my Slackware 11.0 box: vidinput_v4l2.h:157: error: field `videoCapability' has incomplete type vidinput_v4l2.h:158: error: field `videoStreamParm' has incomplete type vidinput_v4l2.cxx:219: error: `V4L2_PIX_FMT_GREY' was not declared in this scope V4L2 plugins use Linux kernel header. So you must have a recent Linux kernel header in /usr/include/linux to build pwlib. By default Slackware comes with a 2.4 kernel so it can't be used. Try to install the 2.6.17.13, if it's help. Quote from the website: Slackware 11.0 contains the 2.4.33.3 Linux kernel, 2.6.17.13 in /extra and 2.6.18 in the /testing directory; the default boot option is the dependable 2.4.33.3 kernel, but this time we included more choices and support for 2.6.x kernels. Luc ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
I think so, but I'm sorry, I have never done that, so I can guide you to a precise way of doing things. Don't worry. I am back on CVS :) configure: error: Sorry but the recommended OPAL version is 2.3.2 I have libopal 2.3.2 !! From www.ekiga.org, cvs snapshots ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 11:14 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: If it tells you you do not have 2.3.2, then you do not have 2.3.2 installed where it is looking for... Ok, that happens if you have 2 opal(s) installed. Compiled ok, but now it crashes on connection established with the following error: 2007/02/20 18:36:37.052 1:57.200 SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP Could not find SDP media description for Video 2007/02/20 18:36:37.052 1:57.200 SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP Could not find SDP media description for Image Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x11518)! No help if I disable that Enable video checkbox. Jure ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
Le mardi 20 février 2007 à 18:39 +0100, Jure Petrovic a écrit : On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 11:14 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: If it tells you you do not have 2.3.2, then you do not have 2.3.2 installed where it is looking for... Ok, that happens if you have 2 opal(s) installed. Compiled ok, but now it crashes on connection established with the following error: 2007/02/20 18:36:37.052 1:57.200 SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP Could not find SDP media description for Video 2007/02/20 18:36:37.052 1:57.200 SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP Could not find SDP media description for Image Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x11518)! No help if I disable that Enable video checkbox. Given that George is also encountering a crash, I would think Craig recently broke something. Can you do the same operation than George (see other e-mails sent today) to see if it is the same crash ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:23:58 +0100 Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 20 février 2007 à 18:39 +0100, Jure Petrovic a écrit : On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 11:14 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: If it tells you you do not have 2.3.2, then you do not have 2.3.2 installed where it is looking for... Ok, that happens if you have 2 opal(s) installed. Compiled ok, but now it crashes on connection established with the following error: 2007/02/20 18:36:37.052 1:57.200 SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP Could not find SDP media description for Video 2007/02/20 18:36:37.052 1:57.200 SIP Handle...er:969c848 SIP Could not find SDP media description for Image Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x11518)! No help if I disable that Enable video checkbox. Given that George is also encountering a crash, I would think Craig recently broke something. Can you do the same operation than George (see other e-mails sent today) to see if it is the same crash ? The only changes I made were to prevent error conditions causing crashes, and should not actually change existing functionality. I'll check SIP with video today using simpleopal and let you know how it goes. The two log mesages above indicate that the SDP does not contain any video or image (fax) entries. Without seeing the SDP I can't tell if this is true. Craig --- Craig Southeren Post Increment VoIP Consulting and Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.postincrement.com.au Phone: +61 243654666 ICQ: #86852844 Fax:+61 243656905 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +61 417231046 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile. Be yourself, no matter what they say. Sting ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
Le dimanche 18 février 2007 à 09:39 -0800, JCA a écrit : Before thinking of spreading Ekiga, might it not be better first to a) make it totally independent of Gnome, and b) get it to work at least as solidly as its competitors? Quite simply, these two are the only reasons why I can't get my organization to move to Ekiga, instead of the current Skype/Gizmo/Wengo mixture that we do. a) you can compile it with --disable-gnome b) you should report all problems you encounter, Ekiga 2.0.x is quite stable for most users... -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
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a) you can compile it with --disable-gnome I will try that. The point is, this should be the default. b) you should report all problems you encounter, Ekiga 2.0.x is quite stable for most users... I have reported my problems, and so far they remain unsolved. The fact remains that under exactly the same conditions (platform, distribution, kernel, sound hardware and configuration, and network) Skype, Gizmo and Wengo are usable (not perfect, but usable) whereas Ekiga's sound is so choppy (no matter what codec) that it is not usable. Which is a shame, for if they were all similarly usable, Ekiga would be my first choice. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 08:19 -0800, JCA a écrit : a) you can compile it with --disable-gnome I will try that. The point is, this should be the default. b) you should report all problems you encounter, Ekiga 2.0.x is quite stable for most users... I have reported my problems, and so far they remain unsolved. The fact remains that under exactly the same conditions (platform, distribution, kernel, sound hardware and configuration, and network) Skype, Gizmo and Wengo are usable (not perfect, but usable) whereas Ekiga's sound is so choppy (no matter what codec) that it is not usable. Which is a shame, for if they were all similarly usable, Ekiga would be my first choice. Have you tried with Ekiga 2.0.5 ? From my point of view, your problem is an ALSA problem, and it gets annoying that users are making the confusion between ALSA problems and Ekiga problems. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
Damien Sandras wrote: Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 08:19 -0800, JCA a écrit : Have you tried with Ekiga 2.0.5 ? I CANT EVEN GET THE LATEST VERSION TO INSTALL! AND I may not know Unix that well, but I can at least get around (for regular easy stuff). I like Ekiga, and have recommended it to others, but my 2.0.1 freezes A LOT. I wanted to upgrade to 2.0.5 since you said it's ready and good. I tried, cannot get the thing to install, no matter I do. It always wants a version of pwlib that I don't have. I've installed, uninstalled, reinstalled, used cvs sources, sources from Jan, and finally the sources displayed for download on the website. I've gotten help from another member on this list. This is really too much time wasted, and now I feel like a dummy since I can't get it to work. I guess I should wait for the official ubuntu package to update. I'm too stupid to install it myself. From my point of view, your problem is an ALSA problem, and it gets annoying that users are making the confusion between ALSA problems and Ekiga problems. THIS is PRECISELY why it's going to be hard to spread ekiga. MOST ppl don't even know what ALSA is, nor cares. They just want a sipphone that WORKS. You getting annoyed is not right. Explain it on the website! Why do other softphones work out of the box for them but not ekiga? Have a clear installation guide or faq! You cannot blame the users, most have not even taken a cs course, let alone done a thesis on it. Pls rethink this. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
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I thought that was the problem before and so uninstalled whatever I could already, before reinstall to /usr only. But right now I checked the 'includes' and all I found was one folder ptlib, which I saw earlier could be connected with pwlib. I'm thinking, if OPAL (which I dont know what it is), is related or works with pwlib, then maybe I have to uninstall everything and retry it all again. What do I know. Damien Sandras wrote: Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 11:59 -0500, Natasha a écrit : Damien Sandras wrote: Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 08:19 -0800, JCA a écrit : Have you tried with Ekiga 2.0.5 ? I CANT EVEN GET THE LATEST VERSION TO INSTALL! AND I may not know Unix that well, but I can at least get around (for regular easy stuff). I like Ekiga, and have recommended it to others, but my 2.0.1 freezes A LOT. I wanted to upgrade to 2.0.5 since you said it's ready and good. I tried, cannot get the thing to install, no matter I do. It always wants a version of pwlib that I don't have. I've installed, uninstalled, reinstalled, used cvs sources, sources from Jan, and finally the sources displayed for download on the website. I've gotten help from another member on this list. This is really too much time wasted, and now I feel like a dummy since I can't get it to work. I guess I should wait for the official ubuntu package to update. I'm too stupid to install it myself. Are you sure you do not have conflicting versions installed on your system ? (like for example some pwlib headers in /usr/include and some other headers in /usr/local/include) ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
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cut THIS is PRECISELY why it's going to be hard to spread ekiga. MOST ppl don't even know what ALSA is, nor cares. They just want a sipphone that WORKS. You getting annoyed is not right. /cut Damien, i think she is right. It is very old difference beetween users and programmers. There is even nice book by Alan Cooper The Inmates Are Running the Asylum. ;( Why don't make some patch: - option to switch sound to 44/48kHz and donwsample in program, option with help: switch this on if Wengo/Skype works, but ekiga not. ;) ;) W.P. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
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Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 18:43 +0100, W.P. a écrit : cut THIS is PRECISELY why it's going to be hard to spread ekiga. MOST ppl don't even know what ALSA is, nor cares. They just want a sipphone that WORKS. You getting annoyed is not right. /cut Damien, i think she is right. It is very old difference beetween users and programmers. There is even nice book by Alan Cooper The Inmates Are Running the Asylum. ;( Why don't make some patch: - option to switch sound to 44/48kHz and donwsample in program, option with help: switch this on if Wengo/Skype works, but ekiga not. ;) ;) The problem here is that we are not sure my code will work when ALSA code does not work... Btw, have you tried 2.0.5 ? I have done a critical fix in the ALSA plugin for broken soundcards... It could help in your case, I am curious to know :-) -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
Everybody is so into this ekiga spreading stuff, that you don't even notice my cry for help. - I am trying to play around with plugins a little. Do you suggest stable or CVS release? - How can I get va_g729 compiled in release version? I know it works only in windows, but in my case g729codec.cxx is only a stub so it compiles. Do I have to edit Makefile manually? Btw. I am using lin since rh4.2, but I just discovered ekiga in fc6 as a part of distribution. In my case works just fine and I like it, because is seamlessly integrates with gnome desktop On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 21:39 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: The problem here is that we are not sure my code will work when ALSA code does not work... Btw, have you tried 2.0.5 ? I have done a critical fix in the ALSA plugin for broken soundcards... It could help in your case, I am curious to know :-) ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
Le lundi 19 février 2007 à 22:16 +0100, Jure Petrovic a écrit : Everybody is so into this ekiga spreading stuff, that you don't even notice my cry for help. - I am trying to play around with plugins a little. Do you suggest stable or CVS release? CVS. - How can I get va_g729 compiled in release version? You can't. I know it works only in windows, but in my case g729codec.cxx is only a stub so it compiles. Do I have to edit Makefile manually? Compiling G.729a so that it works with Ekiga means compiling Ekiga for WIN32. Do you currently have a version of Ekiga on WIN32 that you compiled yourself ? -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
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I have empty methods inside g729codec.cxx, so file compiles on command line. How can I get this linked to libopal library? (I don't care if they're empty for now) On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 22:25 +0100, Damien Sandras wrote: Compiling G.729a so that it works with Ekiga means compiling Ekiga for WIN32. Do you currently have a version of Ekiga on WIN32 that you compiled yourself ? ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
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Have you tried with Ekiga 2.0.5 ? pwlib 1.10.4, configured with ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-plugins --disable-oss --enable-v4l2 refuses to compile on my Slackware 11.0 box: make[3]: Entering directory `/home/IJK/pwlib-1.10.4/plugins/vidinput_v4l2' mkdir -p ../pwlib/device/videoinput g++ -DP_USE_PRAGMA -D_REENTRANT -Wall -fPIC -DPIC -I/home/IJK/pwlib-1.10.4/include \ vidinput_names.cxx \ -I. -shared vidinput_v4l2.cxx -o ../pwlib/device/videoinput/v4l2_pwplugin.so In file included from vidinput_v4l2.cxx:145: vidinput_v4l2.h:157: error: field `videoCapability' has incomplete type vidinput_v4l2.h:158: error: field `videoStreamParm' has incomplete type vidinput_v4l2.cxx:219: error: `V4L2_PIX_FMT_GREY' was not declared in this scope etc. Also, I noticed that the configure file for 2.0.5 strongly recommends not to disable Gnome support: --disable-gnomeRemove GNOME support. Don't do this, it removes essential features Which are those essential features? ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
I would suggest that you read on Ekiga's site about how to get 2 applications running under alsa at the same time. It doesn't always work because alsa keeps changing things. One of the biggest problems with alsa is that it forces the jitter buffer to go wild. I have my sound in Ekiga to use Default for the sound events. My audio output device is set to use my sound card and the input device to use the Default. It works very well here that way. (Default meaning the alsa default device). It's not a codec problem, it's alsa. If you have a full duplex sound card you can try and use that directly or try OSS. But the settings that I described that I'm using works well for me and most every other computer that I've installed Ekiga on. On a side note; I had to remove the custom alsa.config and let alsa set it back up using Fedora's Sound Card Detection program after the last update of alsa. On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 08:19 -0800, JCA wrote: a) you can compile it with --disable-gnome I will try that. The point is, this should be the default. b) you should report all problems you encounter, Ekiga 2.0.x is quite stable for most users... I have reported my problems, and so far they remain unsolved. The fact remains that under exactly the same conditions (platform, distribution, kernel, sound hardware and configuration, and network) Skype, Gizmo and Wengo are usable (not perfect, but usable) whereas Ekiga's sound is so choppy (no matter what codec) that it is not usable. Which is a shame, for if they were all similarly usable, Ekiga would be my first choice. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list Fedora Core 6 Linux Ekiga Rocks!! One program so many ways to connect! sip: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) H323: gk.voxgratia.net:1719 geboyd53 SipBroker: *673-617808 -or- *011-1617808 (alias 617808) e164: +13606660349 or +882 398265 (linked to ekiga) Voipbuster: geboyd53 (chat), 13606660349 (telephone) Forward: 781549 Voxalot: 106153 Gizmo: 17476918163 ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Let's spread Ekiga : volunteers ?
On Monday 12 February 2007 15:33, Damien Sandras wrote: Sending again. Le lundi 12 février 2007 à 22:32 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit : Hi all, Most of you already know that I want to reorganize the Ekiga team to bring fresh air into the project. The current active project leaders including myself would like o concentrate on what they do best : coding, packaging, ... Consequently, we would like to hire new contributors who will help the current team. Here is the list of tasks I have identified, with the proposed maintainers. 1) CODING - Moving Ekiga to the 3.00 release is not a small task. People coordinating this task are Damien Sandras, Julien Puydt and Jan Schampera. New coders are welcome. 2) BUG TRIAGING --- We are receiving bug reports, as any software would. There is a preliminary task before accepting a bug report. This task includes : checking for duplicates of that bug report, trying to reproduce it, making sure that all the relevant information has been given by the reporter and closing old bug reports. Currently, Julien, Jan and myself are doing this task with the GNOME bugzilla team. The best would be that some new persons take that task into their responsability and that we only do level 2 support for those bugs. 3) DOCUMENTATION / FAQ -- Writing Documentation on the WIKI and updating the FAQ is a hard job. It helps new users with a minimum knowledge to step in and make the userbase grow. I propose Yannick as responsible of this task. Yannick is doing an incredible job in the Ubuntu community. Native speakers will be required to help him in his job. 4) MANUAL - I am the one to write the manual of Ekiga when there is a new release. Christopher Warner and Matthias Redlich wrote the first version of the manual. Ekiga 3.00 will require major updates and a new manual. We are looking for volunteers for that task too. 5) PACKAGING Kilian is the current maintainer for http://snapshots.seconix.com. New architectures, new distributions should be supported and added to our list. Kilian will need help for that. 6) WEB SERVERS -- Having a professional look for http://ekiga.net and http://ekiga.org is mandatory for our image. Fabian Deutsch will coordinate the work for http://ekiga.org, the new site will be based on Media Wiki. We need somebody for http://ekiga.net. It will either require writing a skin for SERWEB or writing new code to handle registrations and welcome the user. Currently, http://ekiga.net is very limited. What could be done is incorporating the user signup into http://ekiga.org and have one unique site with a global offer. Ekiga.org would also give information about the Ekiga.net service but there would be no specific site for ekiga.net. We need volunteers for that and Fabian needs help. 7) WORD OF MOUTH We need somebody to coordinate the press team. More articles about Ekiga, more hype, spread it ! That is an important part of every project. It needs volunteers. Thanks for reading me ! I'd like to help, but I really don't know how to do any of the listed things (other than just reporting bugs as they come up and spreading the word about Ekiga) :-( Writing, even e-mails, just isn't even close to being a strongpoint for me. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
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Sending again. Le lundi 12 février 2007 à 22:32 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit : Hi all, Most of you already know that I want to reorganize the Ekiga team to bring fresh air into the project. The current active project leaders including myself would like o concentrate on what they do best : coding, packaging, ... Consequently, we would like to hire new contributors who will help the current team. Here is the list of tasks I have identified, with the proposed maintainers. 1) CODING - Moving Ekiga to the 3.00 release is not a small task. People coordinating this task are Damien Sandras, Julien Puydt and Jan Schampera. New coders are welcome. 2) BUG TRIAGING --- We are receiving bug reports, as any software would. There is a preliminary task before accepting a bug report. This task includes : checking for duplicates of that bug report, trying to reproduce it, making sure that all the relevant information has been given by the reporter and closing old bug reports. Currently, Julien, Jan and myself are doing this task with the GNOME bugzilla team. The best would be that some new persons take that task into their responsability and that we only do level 2 support for those bugs. 3) DOCUMENTATION / FAQ -- Writing Documentation on the WIKI and updating the FAQ is a hard job. It helps new users with a minimum knowledge to step in and make the userbase grow. I propose Yannick as responsible of this task. Yannick is doing an incredible job in the Ubuntu community. Native speakers will be required to help him in his job. 4) MANUAL - I am the one to write the manual of Ekiga when there is a new release. Christopher Warner and Matthias Redlich wrote the first version of the manual. Ekiga 3.00 will require major updates and a new manual. We are looking for volunteers for that task too. 5) PACKAGING Kilian is the current maintainer for http://snapshots.seconix.com. New architectures, new distributions should be supported and added to our list. Kilian will need help for that. 6) WEB SERVERS -- Having a professional look for http://ekiga.net and http://ekiga.org is mandatory for our image. Fabian Deutsch will coordinate the work for http://ekiga.org, the new site will be based on Media Wiki. We need somebody for http://ekiga.net. It will either require writing a skin for SERWEB or writing new code to handle registrations and welcome the user. Currently, http://ekiga.net is very limited. What could be done is incorporating the user signup into http://ekiga.org and have one unique site with a global offer. Ekiga.org would also give information about the Ekiga.net service but there would be no specific site for ekiga.net. We need volunteers for that and Fabian needs help. 7) WORD OF MOUTH We need somebody to coordinate the press team. More articles about Ekiga, more hype, spread it ! That is an important part of every project. It needs volunteers. Thanks for reading me ! -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list