Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-29 Thread Sergei Steshenko

--- Julien Puydt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
  What does the word use mean in this context ?
  
  There is no use account or set account or choose account entry in GUI.
  
  
  Suppose when I start Ekiga, I check (in terms of checkboxes) my both 
  accounts.
  
  So, which of them will be seen by my friend ?
  
  For example, in Ekiga I've entered two accounts and both are registered:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  .
  
  And I'm calling [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
  
  So, will my friend see the call coming from
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  or from
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  ?
 
  From the default account.
 
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Thanks.

Please update the documentation accordingly.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-29 Thread yannick

Le mercredi 28 novembre 2007 à 15:36 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
 --- Carsten Maass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello Sergei,
  
  Sergei Steshenko schrieb:
   So, assuming all the pearing agreements are in place, could you please 
   answer my
   particular question:
   
   For example, in Ekiga I've entered two accounts and both areregistered:
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   .
   
   And I'm calling [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
   
   So, will my friend see the call coming from
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   or from
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   ?
  
  
  i guess the confusion you have is: _registering_ two accounts doesn't
  mean they are both automatically set as default. In the Accounts dialog
  you have the option to set one (and only one!) account as your default
  account, at which point things work like yannick said in his first post.
  
  Answering your question above:
  
  If you didn't set one of your accounts manually as your default account,
  the account you first added to ekiga became your default account
  (identifiable by its bold font) and will be used for the call to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  If you manually set the second account as your default account, this one
  will be used for the call.
  
  Greetings,
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 Thanks for answering.
 
 I suggest to put this info, i.e. the short answer:
 
 
 If you didn't set one of your accounts manually as your default account,
 the account you first added to ekiga became your default account
 (identifiable by its bold font) and will be used for the call to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 If you manually set the second account as your default account, this one
 will be used for the call.
 
 
 into documentation.

I've upgraded our online documentation here:
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Managing_VOIP_Accounts#How_do_I_choose_the_default_account_.3F

Damien, can you check if what I wrote there is right?

Regards,
Yannick

 
 So far all the SIP user agents I've tried had a clear separation between 
 default
 account and current account, i.e. the one from which the call will come to
 destination.
 
 And I believe all those other user agents do the right thing.
 
 So, I also suggest to upgrade Ekiga functionality WRT default - current 
 accounts
 so it will be like the others' one.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-28 Thread yannick
Hi,

Le mardi 27 novembre 2007 à 20:55 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
 If I do so and if I dial a SIP account, from which of the two
 accounts do I dial ?

You can call sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can select one of the accounts and set it as default (in the
accounts window), then you can just dial sip:yourfriend and it will
choose the default automatically.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko

--- yannick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Le mardi 27 novembre 2007 à 20:55 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
  If I do so and if I dial a SIP account, from which of the two
  accounts do I dial ?
 
 You can call sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

OK, suppose, _both_ of my accounts are selected, then from of the accounts will
my call come ?

That was my question.

Some friends may know me through one account of mine, and others through
another, so I do not want my friends to reject my call because they come from
and unknown to them account.

Also, some echo services reject alien accounts.

So, again, if both accounts are selected, from which of them will my friends see
my call ?

It's like I have a number of accounts in my sylpheed-claws, and I choose from
which of them I send an Email.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-28 Thread Damien Sandras

Le mercredi 28 novembre 2007 à 07:41 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
 --- yannick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  Le mardi 27 novembre 2007 à 20:55 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
   If I do so and if I dial a SIP account, from which of the two
   accounts do I dial ?
  
  You can call sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 OK, suppose, _both_ of my accounts are selected, then from of the accounts 
 will
 my call come ?
 
 That was my question.
 
 Some friends may know me through one account of mine, and others through
 another, so I do not want my friends to reject my call because they come from
 and unknown to them account.
 
 Also, some echo services reject alien accounts.
 
 So, again, if both accounts are selected, from which of them will my friends 
 see
 my call ?
 
 It's like I have a number of accounts in my sylpheed-claws, and I choose from
 which of them I send an Email.

Like Yannick said.
Either by the default account, or you have to use the full sip address.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko

--- yannick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Le mercredi 28 novembre 2007 à 07:41 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
  OK, suppose, _both_ of my accounts are selected, then from of the
  accounts will
  my call come ?
  
  That was my question.
 
 The call will go to the provider you tell after the @

I understand where the call will go to, and this is _not_ what I've asked.

May quastion is: from which of _my_ two accounts my friend will see
my call ?

SIP user agents I've used so far show the source of call, and my question
was about the source.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-28 Thread yannick

Le mercredi 28 novembre 2007 à 09:28 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
 --- yannick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Le mercredi 28 novembre 2007 à 07:41 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
   OK, suppose, _both_ of my accounts are selected, then from of the
   accounts will
   my call come ?
   
   That was my question.
  
  The call will go to the provider you tell after the @
 
 I understand where the call will go to, and this is _not_ what I've asked.
 
 May quastion is: from which of _my_ two accounts my friend will see
 my call ?
 
 SIP user agents I've used so far show the source of call, and my question
 was about the source.

The source will be
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

let's say you're calling
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

you friend will see:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you use the second account:
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

your friend will see:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko

--- yannick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Le mercredi 28 novembre 2007 à 09:28 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
  --- yannick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   Le mercredi 28 novembre 2007 à 07:41 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
OK, suppose, _both_ of my accounts are selected, then from of the
accounts will
my call come ?

That was my question.
   
   The call will go to the provider you tell after the @
  
  I understand where the call will go to, and this is _not_ what I've asked.
  
  May quastion is: from which of _my_ two accounts my friend will see
  my call ?
  
  SIP user agents I've used so far show the source of call, and my question
  was about the source.
 
 The source will be

sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 let's say you're calling
 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 you friend will see:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 If you use the second account:
 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What does the word use mean in this context ?

There is no use account or set account or choose account entry in GUI.


Suppose when I start Ekiga, I check (in terms of checkboxes) my both accounts.

So, which of them will be seen by my friend ?

For example, in Ekiga I've entered two accounts and both are registered:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.

And I'm calling [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

So, will my friend see the call coming from

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

or from

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-28 Thread yannick

Le mercredi 28 novembre 2007 à 12:32 -0800, Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
 For example, in Ekiga I've entered two accounts and both are
 registered:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
 
 And I'm calling [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 
 So, will my friend see the call coming from
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 or from
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ?

This just wont work. VoIP is not like email. I wish it could work as
email, but it does not work like an email.

Those networks may join together if there is an agreement between them.
The usual word for this agreement is peering. You add a special prefix
to the sip address to tell your network (the account you want to use) to
link to another network.

Ekiga.net has peering with many VoIP other network, thanks to
sipbroker :
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Peering

Here is exemple of numbers you can dial using Ekiga.net account to join
other network:
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Fun_Numbers
e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*010 is the peering prefix which indicate to Ekiga.net provider to join
the VoIP network Voxalot and to call number 600 in this network (which
is an echo test).

Why is VoIP like this and not like email? I dont know.

Regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-28 Thread Carsten Maass
Hello Sergei,

Sergei Steshenko schrieb:
 So, assuming all the pearing agreements are in place, could you please answer 
 my
 particular question:
 
 For example, in Ekiga I've entered two accounts and both areregistered:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
 
 And I'm calling [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 
 So, will my friend see the call coming from
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 or from
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ?


i guess the confusion you have is: _registering_ two accounts doesn't
mean they are both automatically set as default. In the Accounts dialog
you have the option to set one (and only one!) account as your default
account, at which point things work like yannick said in his first post.

Answering your question above:

If you didn't set one of your accounts manually as your default account,
the account you first added to ekiga became your default account
(identifiable by its bold font) and will be used for the call to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you manually set the second account as your default account, this one
will be used for the call.

Greetings,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko

--- Carsten Maass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Sergei,
 
 Sergei Steshenko schrieb:
  So, assuming all the pearing agreements are in place, could you please 
  answer my
  particular question:
  
  For example, in Ekiga I've entered two accounts and both areregistered:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  .
  
  And I'm calling [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
  
  So, will my friend see the call coming from
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  or from
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  ?
 
 
 i guess the confusion you have is: _registering_ two accounts doesn't
 mean they are both automatically set as default. In the Accounts dialog
 you have the option to set one (and only one!) account as your default
 account, at which point things work like yannick said in his first post.
 
 Answering your question above:
 
 If you didn't set one of your accounts manually as your default account,
 the account you first added to ekiga became your default account
 (identifiable by its bold font) and will be used for the call to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 If you manually set the second account as your default account, this one
 will be used for the call.
 
 Greetings,
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Thanks for answering.

I suggest to put this info, i.e. the short answer:


If you didn't set one of your accounts manually as your default account,
the account you first added to ekiga became your default account
(identifiable by its bold font) and will be used for the call to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you manually set the second account as your default account, this one
will be used for the call.


into documentation.

So far all the SIP user agents I've tried had a clear separation between default
account and current account, i.e. the one from which the call will come to
destination.

And I believe all those other user agents do the right thing.

So, I also suggest to upgrade Ekiga functionality WRT default - current 
accounts
so it will be like the others' one.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] multiple accounts - which of them is used as source ?

2007-11-28 Thread Julien Puydt
Sergei Steshenko a écrit :
 What does the word use mean in this context ?
 
 There is no use account or set account or choose account entry in GUI.
 
 
 Suppose when I start Ekiga, I check (in terms of checkboxes) my both accounts.
 
 So, which of them will be seen by my friend ?
 
 For example, in Ekiga I've entered two accounts and both are registered:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .
 
 And I'm calling [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 
 So, will my friend see the call coming from
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 or from
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ?

 From the default account.

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