Re: [Elecraft] K2: IDing Rev B Boards

2004-10-30 Thread Jeff Hetherington
MessageThanks Gary.  I now have the Rev A boards locked away, and the Rev B
boards sitting on the workbench.  Thanks again!

73/72
 Jeff - VA3JFF
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Re: [Elecraft] Hum coupling?

2004-10-30 Thread Don Brown
Hi

The K2 is susceptible to hum pick up. You must keep all sources of AC magnetic 
fields at least 3 feet away from the K2 or the VFO will be modulated by the 
hum. This has been noted many times here on the reflector. Even a high 
intensity lamp too close to the K2 was a problem. Do not stack the K2 on top of 
a power supply or amplifier or anything with a large power transformer


Don Brown

KD5NDB


  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Althoffmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 4:13 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Hum coupling?


  Ten-Tec recommended putting the matching speaker/power supply of my old 
Omni-V on the RIGHT hand side of the radio.  The audio lines ran on the left 
side and the transformer in the supply caused hum on receive.

  I'm experiencing similar AC hum on the K2 audio.   The K2 sits on top of my 
Titan II and when the HV is set to operate (kicking in the big HV xfmr directly 
under the K2) I get the hum.  If I pick the K2 up and move it about 3 away 
from the Titan then all is well.

  Has anyone else experienced hum from nearby power transformers?   I plan on 
using a 10Amp analog supply (not here yet) and anticipate I might have to keep 
it away from the K2.   I suspect switching supplies do not cause the same 
effect.

  Tom K2TA
  Greenwood Lake, NY
  K2 #1117
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[Elecraft] K2: IDing Rev B Boards

2004-10-30 Thread Jeff Hetherington
Hi Everybody.

Now that the KX1 is up and running, I can move onto my second hand, but
unbuilt K2!  Included with the unbuilt K2 was the complete Rev A to Rev B
upgrade ... and I see the RevB markings on the Control and FP boards ... but
not on the RF board.  Is it marked somewhere that I am just missing ... or
is there another way to tell the two RF boards apart?

Thanks.
73/72
  Jeff - VA3JFF
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[Elecraft] WA3WSJ on Road This Morning at Covered Bridge

2004-10-30 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all,
 
Look for around 1500 utc at a covered bridge in Lancaster County, PA
today on 20m and 40m somewhere in the qrm of the contest around 14.280
and 7.280mhz.  
 
Grab a Spooktificate from the ARCBS by working someone at a covered
bridge. Take a look at the Spooktificate at the link below.
 
http://www.arcbs.org/files/ARCBSPics/Spooktificate.html
 
72/73,
Ed, WA3WSJ
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[Elecraft] BG; status for ALC and RF

2004-10-30 Thread Rich McCabe
If I understand the programmers reference manual the BG command should 
return the BG status depending on what mode you are in. In receive it 
returns S meter and during transmit it should return ALC or RF output 
depending on the mode you are in.


I can see to get it to work. It always seems to return what was the S meter 
before and never RF or ALC?  Anyone ran across this?


Rich
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[Elecraft] N0SS/K6XX SMD CW tuning indicator

2004-10-30 Thread Mike S
Just a quick report. 

Tom did a great job putting together these new kits and they work great. The 
small size of the SMT board allows it to easily fit between the K2 control and 
front panel boards. I used a bit of sticky back Velcro to mount mine.

I think he's just about out of kits, but still has boards available if you want 
to order parts yourself and put one together. This is a great beginner project 
for learning how to deal with surface mount devices. Tom chose to use one of 
the larger device sizes available (1206), which makes it relatively easy 
(0402's are tricky). 

If this is your first time trying SMT, and you're going to try this, I 
recommend that you order some extra components (they're pretty cheap). Although 
Tom recommends soldering the XR2211 IC first, I'd recommend you do it last - 
after you've had some experience with soldering SMT. It's much easier to 
recover from an error on a 2 terminal device than on a 14 terminal one.

More info from Tom at http://www.n0ss.net/ or mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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[Elecraft] Re: Wierd SSB problem on my K2 on 20M

2004-10-30 Thread Tom Althoff
Correction: 17M is also behaving the same way.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Althoff 
  To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 5:37 PM
  Subject: Wierd SSB problem on my K2 on 20M


  I know the BFO filter settings are saved with each mode and filter width...is 
there anything band specific that would cause the following symptoms...

  While listening to SSB signals:
  160/80/40 LSB SSB OK
  20M USB Rig seems to be stuck in LSB though the dial says u.   Signals are 
unintelligable and appear to be wrong sideband or badly adjusted BFO setting
  17/15/12/10 USB SSB OK

  I just checked it out on 20M SSB for the first time a few hours ago so it 
looks like #1117 is not quite ready to play full-time yet.

  Tom K2TA
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[Elecraft] 20 meter problem on new K2

2004-10-30 Thread Rich McCabe
I just noticed that my K2 build 43xx is almost totally dead on 20 meters. I 
think all the other bands are OK.


I hooked up my N-Gen and could not hear anything on 20. I thought I could 
use a scope to follow the generators noise signal but the scope makes about 
as much noise as the generator when going through the bandpass circuit.


I am guessing it is probably bandpass or low pass and I need to start 
checking to make sure the relays are making contact, etc.??


It worked when I built it a couple months ago and am not sure when it quit 
as I dont use 20 often. This K2 is totally optioned  and I have removed the 
100 watt PA to make sure it is not the culprit.


Any comments on the best way to trouble shoot this?

Thanks and 73,

Rich
kd0zv 



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Re: [Elecraft] Wierd SSB problem on my K2 on 20M

2004-10-30 Thread Tom Althoff
I agree...definitely the BFO is off...but dramatically.

The listen for the zero beat of the noise test which worked before I
removed old L33 and replaced it with the torroid version.  I could tune
through either side of the passband with the BFO.   Then I changed all the
crystals using the matched set and did the BFO temp stablilty mod.   I need
to recheck that to be sure I didn't yank a crystal that I wasn't supposed
to.

Initially the BFO High Freq was only 4915.52.I took 2 turns off of each
side of the torroid (boy...that wire is friggin' thin!!!) and got the range
up to 4915.99.

But then I decided to do a practical test and listen in the headphones as I
adjusted the BFO.   Instead of getting the noise zero beat around 4913, the
noise continued to drop until I ran hit 4915.99.

So something is not right.   I wonder if there was something that needed to
be changed or adjusted when I replaced the stock crystals with the matched
set?

I'm going to leave the torroid winding alone at this point.   I've been
going for 24 hours without sleep and I think I'm getting slap happy with
this.  Maybe a fresh start in the morning will bring a new perspective.

Tom K2TA

- Original Message - 
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tom Althoff' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Wierd SSB problem on my K2 on 20M


My guess is that the BFO is misaligned, Tom. The BFO frequency changes
according to the Upper or Lower sideband, and I'll bet that if you check the
CAL FIL function with the counter probe in the BFO test point, you'll see
the SAME frequency for either Upper or Lower sideband. Ham bands below 20
meters normally use the lower sideband, and that's probably okay. But when
the upper sideband was aligned, the BFO was set on the wrong side of the
signal and so USB on 20 meters and up (all the way through 10 meters) will
not work on USB.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

I know the BFO filter settings are saved with each mode and filter
width...is there anything band specific that would cause the following
symptoms...

While listening to SSB signals:
160/80/40 LSB SSB OK
20M USB Rig seems to be stuck in LSB though the dial says u.   Signals are
unintelligable and appear to be wrong sideband or badly adjusted BFO setting
17/15/12/10 USB SSB OK

I just checked it out on 20M SSB for the first time a few hours ago so it
looks like #1117 is not quite ready to play full-time yet.

Tom K2TA
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Re: [Elecraft] Wierd SSB problem on my K2 on 20M

2004-10-30 Thread Tom Althoff
Gosh darn it!

I found out what I screwed up.   I put 5 of the matched crystals in X7-X11,
and instead of putting the other two in X5 and X6 I put them in X3 and X4,
the BFO crystals!

Sorry to waste bandwidth on the reflector with my wiring errors.

I have a pile of crystals here that I pulled from the garbage.   How do I
identify the BFO crystals?   Some say 4.91-S, some say 4.91-0195 etc etc.

This is what happens when you try to do too much in one day!

Any help on how to figure out which 2 of the 14 pullouts are the BFO
crystals for X3 and X4?

Thanks!

Tom K2TA

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Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter problem on new K2

2004-10-30 Thread Joe - aa4nn
I would forget checking relays for the moment. Take a look at the coupling 
capacitors for the 20m/30m circuit, the ones installed on the bottom of the 
board.  Make sure solder flowed through to the top of the board for good 
connection to the traces up there.  This was my 20m problem.

73, Joe, aa4nn

I just noticed that my K2 build 43xx is almost totally dead on 20 meters. I 
think all the other bands are OK.


I hooked up my N-Gen and could not hear anything on 20. I thought I could 
use a scope to follow the generators noise signal but the scope makes 
about as much noise as the generator when going through the bandpass 
circuit.


I am guessing it is probably bandpass or low pass and I need to start 
checking to make sure the relays are making contact, etc.??


It worked when I built it a couple months ago and am not sure when it quit 
as I dont use 20 often. This K2 is totally optioned  and I have removed 
the 100 watt PA to make sure it is not the culprit.


Any comments on the best way to trouble shoot this?

Thanks and 73,

Rich
kd0zv

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Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter problem on new K2

2004-10-30 Thread Rich McCabe
Thanks for the tips guys. After thinking about it, I am not 100% positive it 
worked when new. I do know it went through the alignment without problems, so I 
better check my wound coils just to be safe. Everything else seems to work OK 
and the only issue is lack of sensitivity on 20 meters. 

73,

Rich


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  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter problem on new K2


  A proper signal generator is just about essential to do the job. The problem 
is that you need a fair amount of signal to get any indication on the average 
oscilloscope. The normal method is to use an RF millvoltmeter to trace the 
path. You can use the Elecraft provided RF probe and a DVM providing you can 
inject an on frequency signal of sufficient level to work through the RX 
bandpass filters, etc. Elecraft give a figure of 140mV from the signal 
generator to carry out this test

  There is a good description how to go about it in the rev F, K2 manual 
Appendix E, Troubleshooting page 11.

  It is possible under extreme circumstances to use a TX into a dummy load as a 
signal source, but needs extreme care how you would extract sufficient level 
without smoking the RX front end. Much better to use a suitable signal 
generator.

  Bob, G3VVT
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RE: [Elecraft] 20 meter problem on new K2

2004-10-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Did you seat the band pass filter trimmer caps, Rich? 

Many of those trimmer capacitors come from the factory needing to be twirled
around a number of times to seat them so the sliding contact has
electrical continuity. Just put your screwdriver in the slot and twirl it
around a bunch of times, then re-try the alignment procedure. That CAN
happen after the rig has  been successfully aligned once. Apparently the
contacts need a little 'exercising' to make them seat completely. Once that
is done, they are fine. There's nothing wrong with the trimmers. 

That's the most common reason for a dead band, right up there with perhaps a
dreaded PTTL (poorly-tinned-toroid-lead). Normally a PTTL won't make the rig
quit though. It won't work from the first. 

If you didn't get ALL the enamel burned/scraped off of a toroid lead or you
pulled the lead through the board passed the tinned segment so
enamel-covered wire was in the hole, you might not be making electrical
contact on that lead. 

Leads that aren't tinned properly look fine when soldered unless you look
VERY closely at the wire. You'll often see a tiny ring of dark that looks
like rosin around the conductor. It's actually the enamel. In that case the
wire is trapped in the solder blob and won't pull out, but it isn't making
electrical contact either.

Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-
I just noticed that my K2 build 43xx is almost totally dead on 20 meters. I 
think all the other bands are OK.

I hooked up my N-Gen and could not hear anything on 20. I thought I could 
use a scope to follow the generators noise signal but the scope makes about 
as much noise as the generator when going through the bandpass circuit.

I am guessing it is probably bandpass or low pass and I need to start 
checking to make sure the relays are making contact, etc.??

It worked when I built it a couple months ago and am not sure when it quit 
as I dont use 20 often. This K2 is totally optioned  and I have removed the 
100 watt PA to make sure it is not the culprit.

Any comments on the best way to trouble shoot this?

Thanks and 73,

Rich
kd0zv 


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Re: [Elecraft] 20 meter problem on new K2

2004-10-30 Thread Rich McCabe
Yes, I remember reading about seating the caps. So I gave those two about 20 
spins and did not help.


The  radio seems to peak OK going through the alignment. Just seems to have 
no sensitivity. I just pulled out a TenTec RX-320 and a S-9 singal on the 
TenTec is only a single bar on the K2. I have to crank the audio almost all 
the way up to listen as well.


I doubt in my case it is tinning problems. I am prone to do stupid things 
but I am pretty good with solder and removing the enamel on the wire. NOT to 
say it isnt possible.


I am surprised I did not notice this before but as I said, I am never on 20. 
Its a significant difference in audio as you switch to 20.


Just to be safe I will check trace to trace on the circuit board to make 
sure the torroids are making good contact :)


73,

Rich
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From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Rich McCabe' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Elecraft Reflector' 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 20 meter problem on new K2



Did you seat the band pass filter trimmer caps, Rich?

Many of those trimmer capacitors come from the factory needing to be 
twirled

around a number of times to seat them so the sliding contact has
electrical continuity. Just put your screwdriver in the slot and twirl it
around a bunch of times, then re-try the alignment procedure. That CAN
happen after the rig has  been successfully aligned once. Apparently the
contacts need a little 'exercising' to make them seat completely. Once 
that

is done, they are fine. There's nothing wrong with the trimmers.

That's the most common reason for a dead band, right up there with perhaps 
a
dreaded PTTL (poorly-tinned-toroid-lead). Normally a PTTL won't make the 
rig

quit though. It won't work from the first.

If you didn't get ALL the enamel burned/scraped off of a toroid lead or 
you

pulled the lead through the board passed the tinned segment so
enamel-covered wire was in the hole, you might not be making electrical
contact on that lead.

Leads that aren't tinned properly look fine when soldered unless you look
VERY closely at the wire. You'll often see a tiny ring of dark that looks
like rosin around the conductor. It's actually the enamel. In that case 
the
wire is trapped in the solder blob and won't pull out, but it isn't 
making

electrical contact either.

Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-
I just noticed that my K2 build 43xx is almost totally dead on 20 meters. 
I

think all the other bands are OK.

I hooked up my N-Gen and could not hear anything on 20. I thought I could
use a scope to follow the generators noise signal but the scope makes 
about

as much noise as the generator when going through the bandpass circuit.

I am guessing it is probably bandpass or low pass and I need to start
checking to make sure the relays are making contact, etc.??

It worked when I built it a couple months ago and am not sure when it quit
as I dont use 20 often. This K2 is totally optioned  and I have removed 
the

100 watt PA to make sure it is not the culprit.

Any comments on the best way to trouble shoot this?

Thanks and 73,

Rich
kd0zv


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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2004-10-30 Thread Kevin Rock

Good Evening,
   The annual clock change has me working out a new set of numbers for the 
net.  Thus tomorrow at 2200z it will be 4 PM here in the Pacific Time 
Zone.  The frequencies will remain the same but the propagation seems to 
have improved.  Our sun is back to near where it was a year ago happily 
ionizing our D, E, and F layers.
   I hope you can join us for a few exchanges.  It has been mentioned 
(well actually it was at lunch today with N7NLU) it may be interesting for 
a few of you to interact a bit longer after each of the nets is over.  I 
agree whole heartedly.  Please use this net as a watering hole and either 
use the frequency after we're done or move a bit above and below it to 
meet up.  The Thai food was good as was the conversation.  Hopefully we 
will all try a bit of hiking together and then maybe a bit of Elecraft 
trail operating in the future.


Please join us tomorrow on the Elecraft CW Net held:
Sunday 2200z (Sunday 4pm PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0100z (Sunday 7pm PDT)  7045 kHz

Visit our web site: http://ecn.visionseer.com/ for further details.  Thank 
you for the web space Dan.


All are welcome on ECN; Elecraft radios are not required.

See you tomorrow,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class)
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2004-10-30 Thread Kevin Rock

Good Evening,
The annual clock change has me working out a new set of numbers for 
the net.  Thus tomorrow at 2200z it will be 4 PM here in the Pacific Time 
Zone.  The frequencies will remain the same but the propagation seems to 
have improved.  Our sun is back to near where it was a year ago happily 
ionizing our D, E, and F layers.
I hope you can join us for a few exchanges.  It has been mentioned 
(well actually it was at lunch today with N7NLU) it may be interesting for 
a few of you to interact a bit longer after each of the nets is over.  I 
agree whole heartedly.  Please use this net as a watering hole and either 
use the frequency after we're done or move a bit above and below it to 
meet up.  The Thai food was good as was the conversation.  Hopefully we 
will all try a bit of hiking together and then maybe a bit of Elecraft 
trail operating in the future.


Please join us tomorrow on the Elecraft CW Net held:
Sunday 2200z (Sunday 4pm PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0100z (Sunday 7pm PDT)  7045 kHz

Visit our web site: http://ecn.visionseer.com/ for further details.  Thank 
you for the web space Dan.


All are welcome on ECN; Elecraft radios are not required.

See you tomorrow,
Kevin.  KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class)
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