[Elecraft] RE: K2 #4039 - Distorted transmit audio

2004-12-10 Thread nicolas
Hi,

The distorted audio moves with the Control board, so either K2 can enjoy
distorted transmit audio, if it has the faulty board fitted!

Just to clarify point 3. The 12v rail seemed to modulate on both K2's
when using either the faulty ** OR ** the working Control board!
As this effect is the same for both K2's with either Control board. This
would seem to indicate it is some other measurement (etc) effect, that
we are seeing? 

Thanks again!!!

Regards Nicolas


Original posting.

Hi,

Following reports of poor transmitted audio, and aided by a fellow K2
owner we set about a little investigation.

What happens..

Raspy, clipping?, (distorted by RF?), almost Dalek (For UK readers!!),
sounding transmit audio.

We checked the various board, joints etc, swapped things with the known
working K2 and established..

1. The issue is with the control board, when swapped, it gives the same
fault in either K2. 

2. No obvious component problems.

3. Another interesting observation on both K2's, was how the 12v rail
modulates when you transmit?

Any suggestions, where / what to look for on the control board, or other
ideas?

Thanks!!! 

Regards
Nicolas
www.m1hog.com

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[Elecraft] Re: K2 Muting

2004-12-10 Thread zl1aih
Hi Bob,
Do you want to do SO2R with the 2nd K2?
I have been running two K2s, SO2R using either TRLog or CT 
with an old laptop and a W4AN type homebrew switchbox.
The laptop has only one serial port, so I switch the KIO2 lines with 
a multi-pole relay - not elegant, but it works.
If that's what you're looking for, I'll send details.
73, Ken ZL1AIH
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[Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10

2004-12-10 Thread Charles B. Wilber
--- John W2XS wrote:
The 42-foot wire received slightly lower signal reports than the inverted V,
but most people said that they could still hear me fine on the wire. To my
surprise, though, most people reported no real difference with and without
the counterpoise.  I don't know if this was a circumstance of my particular
installation, but I would have thought that the counterpoise would make more
difference.
--- end of quote ---

John,

I've read in a number of places that the counterpoise should ideally be slightly
longer than the antenna wire. Perhaps that is why little difference was noted.

73,
Charlie
N1AOK
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[Elecraft] FS Ten Tec Delta 580 FS

2004-12-10 Thread John Gabbard
Hi Folks,I  have a TT 580 Delta with CW filter excess to my needs,I am 
offering it for 325 shipped,USA.
 it is in good working and in good shape cosmetically. It has WARC bands 
also,as always, the price is negotiable. Thanks and Feliz Navidad!
 John   KF7OM   72' Fallon, Nv. 



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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10

2004-12-10 Thread Vic Rosenthal

Mychael Morohovich wrote:


Instead of a 1/4 wl wire, I use an MFJ Artificial Ground to tune a wire for
maximum current per given band. While measuring, one thing that
surprised me was to discover that with my 86' EFW, the use of a properly
tuned counterpoise didn't always increase the current to the radiator.
For example, on 40 meters the use of a counterpoise helped
to realize a substantial increase of current into the radiator, while on 80
meters I actually saw more current into the radiator with the counterpoise
unhooked on that band. The effects on 30-10 were really fairly minimal or
neutral in this regard.


Keep in mind that you are measuring the current in the radiator AT A PARTICULAR 
POINT.  Due to the standing waves on the radiator, that current varies depending 
on where you measure it.  Now, since the 'antenna' you are feeding consists of 
the counterpoise PLUS the radiator, tuning the counterpoise will change the 
current distribution on the whole system.  So measuring the current at the 
original point on the radiator does not tell the whole story.  Perhaps adding 
the counterpoise has moved the maximum current point away from the feedpoint (a 
desirable situation)?


What you can do is listen to distant stations while connecting and disconnecting 
the counterpoise.  That will test the overall effectiveness of the antenna.  Of 
course, the counterpoise will also change the horizontal and vertical pattern of 
the antenna, so you will need to listen to a large number of distant stations to 
 control for this effect!


--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco

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RE: [Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10

2004-12-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Vic, K2VCO, wrote:

Keep in mind that you are measuring the current in the radiator AT A
PARTICULAR 
POINT. 
-
The counterpoise is tuned for maximum current at the *rig*! 

The idea is that the more current flowing into the counterpoise for a given
power output the lower the RF voltage at the rig. The objective is to
provide the lowest impedance RF Ground at the rig. 

A well-tuned 1/4 wave wire does a very good job, of course. A 1/4 wave wire
shows an impedance of about 35 ohms. Parallel several and you can reduce
that proportionately. The problem is that in many situations it's not
possible to carefully arrange even one resonant 1/4 wave wire, much less
several. Many so-called grounds consisting of a random length wire thrown on
the floor or a wire running several feet to a ground rod show an impedance
at the rig in the hundreds of ohms, making the rig hot with RF. 

In that case a 35 ohm ground provided by a single tuned counterpoise is
vastly superior for grounding the rig. 

Will it change the efficiency of the antenna? Perhaps. If the antenna is an
end-fed 1/2 wave wire presenting an impedance of  perhaps 2000 ohms to the
rig, the difference in radiation efficiency will be negligible. One can
consider the two resistances in series: the ground resistance, 35 ohms in
this example, and the radiation resistance of the antenna, 2000 ohms in this
example. If .1 amps is flowing inn that circuit, the rig is putting out
20.35. Of that 20 watts, 0.35 watts is dissipated in the counterpoise and 20
is radiated. The advantage of the counterpoise in this case is to keep the
RF voltage at the rig down. It will tend to float to a high RF potential
if there's no ground and cause all sorts of problems. 

If the antenna is shortened to 1/4 wavelength, then the efficiency drops to
50% with equal current and power in the counterpoise and antenna. That
sounds awful but that is, in reality a very respectable figure for such an
antenna. Many short vertical antennas have efficiencies of much less than
50%.

As the antenna is made shorter than 1/4 wave long (that's overall physical
length, adding a loading coil doesn't help the efficiency - it only helps
match impedances) the radiation resistance plummets, and with it the
efficiency unless a really, really good ground system is used. That's the
ultimate challenge with anyone using a loaded monopole of any sort. There
simply is no magic answer to efficiency for physically small antennas -
until we get some really cheap, really good room-temperature superconductors
to make them from...

Ron AC7AC 


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[Elecraft] MFJ 4103

2004-12-10 Thread Ron W

Hi Elecrafters,
Does any one have any info on the MFJ miniature psu type 4103?  Although it 
is a sealed unit I wish to adjust the output to keep my internal battery 
charged. The nominal output voltage is 13.8 and I wish to adjust to give 
14.2 as measured by the K2.  I think the unit could be carefully cut open 
and after adjustment sealed up again.  Before starting on this exercise I 
thought I would check with your collective wisdom.

73
Max/ZL4vv

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Re: [Elecraft] Antennas and counterpoise was Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10

2004-12-10 Thread Jim Larsen - AL7FS

Thanks for the good infoI am slowly learning.

73, Jim, AL7FS

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

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[Elecraft] Building Help in Florida

2004-12-10 Thread Lisa Jones
I have had a request from a new customer who would like to talk with an 
Elecraft customer and possibly get some help as he builds his K2/100.


He is in the Boca Raton area and would like to talk with someone local. 
He may even need a little face-to-face help along the way.


If you are interested please email me directly first, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you and have a great weekend!

Lisa




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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10

2004-12-10 Thread Mychael Morohovich



Vic wrote: I was making the point that his experiment of unhooking the
counterpoise and measuring the current into the radiator did not indicate 
that

the counterpoise was or was not improving antenna performance.
-

The method I used was to first tune the antenna with my KAT100 for a flat 
SWR, tune the counterpoise for max current at the rig, then tweak both until 
the KAT100 reported a flat SWR for the antenna while the Artificial Ground 
reported maximum current into the counterpoise. Using the rf sensor, I 
measured the current of the antenna [and counterpoise because I was curious] 
at a spot close to the back of the rig. I then removed the counterpoise, 
retuned the antenna for a flat SWR, and measured the current again for 
reasons of comparison.


This showed me the amount of current that was going into a properly tuned 
antenna both with and without a tuned counterpoise in place.


Mychael



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[Elecraft] A big thankyou

2004-12-10 Thread Ian J Maude
Hi all,
I would just like to take the time for a moment and thank Ron, AC7AC for
his support and assistance in helping me get my XV144 working recently.
As usual, I went about things the hard way and decided to run the
transverter at low level from the KX60V.  As it happened, the
documentation had not yet caught up with the process and I got in a
muddle.  Ron was there immediately and his help was invaluable to me in
getting the whole thing working.  It is now working like a dream in
exactly the way I wanted.

Many thanks Ron!

Ian
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[Elecraft] OT-Preserving CW memories

2004-12-10 Thread Thom R. Lacosta
From time to time I make a post reminding folks that there's a web site where 
the content comes from a submarine radio operator (www.zerobeat.net/submarine) 
.


I'd love to do a similar site with the memories and stories of folks who made 
their living pounding brass, whether aboard ship, at a Coast Station, Police

Communications, Railroard or other venues.

Yep...it appears that hardly anyone does any of the above now, and I'd like to 
preserve your memories on the web so that those of use that use and enjoy cw 
have a frame of reference other than amateur radiowhen you're not around, 
you'll take those memories with you.


If ya have a mind to, drop me an emailI'll be happy to turn it into HTML 
and devote as much space on the server as it takes to tell the story of the 
magical music.


73,Thom-k3hrn
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[Elecraft] Re: #4472 made my first Rtty contact with my K2

2004-12-10 Thread jerry
Finally got the K2 SSB kit to work and my first contact was with ZS6PVT, South 
Africa, on rtty at 5 watts.  He had a hard time hearing me, but we exchanged 
reports fb.
What a radio,  thanks to all.

Jerry, N2UZ






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