Re: [Elecraft] RE: what DC connectors?
Thanks Steve and and all for the info, placed an order for the WMR 4012 which includes the Powepole connectors. 73, Deni F5VJC On 9/5/06, Steven Pituch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=1001 For a good explanation. I buy mine from them. Steve, W2MY/5 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: K2 RF Speech Processor?
I was surprised that RF clipping or compression for ssb was not mentioned as a requirement for the K3 (or K 0.5 or K4). The German unit looks great (tiny). Decades ago, before I forgot the phone I used a board produced by DATONG (UK). Back then (late 70's early 80's??) it was small but would be considered huge today. But it worked extremely well and, as the German unit appears to do, it converted audio frequencies to RF, clipped, then converted back to audio freq. You just stuck it between your mic and the mic input of the radio. It had two adjustments...clipping level and output. I ran mine off of a 9V battery, which lasted at least the entire 48 hours of a contest. The DX and Contest crowd (those who remember the phone) would love something like this on the next K2 or as an add-on option. They really do work! de Doug KR2Q K2/5285 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF Speech Processor?
Henry, [EMAIL PROTECTED] , wrote: Has anyone tried any of the DF4ZS RF speech processors (http://jwm.de/afu/index0.htm) with a K2 yet? For those who think the SSB punch is a little weak, maybe this would help. In fact, maybe this would be a good Mini-Module Kit. -- Great idea! Although I have not used DF4ZS's speech processor, I have used various forms of this type of audio processor and RF clippers over the years and have found that they are useful, perhaps more so than low cost (not studio) audio compression devices. Personally if I intended to buy one of his processors I would go for the larger external unit, because reasonably good SSB filters should be used before and after the RF clipping circuits, all followed by an audio low pass filter at the output with a cutoff around 3kHz, all of which I believe he has included in the larger unit. This could of course be done with a smaller unit which included these items, but is there enough space inside the K2 to fit it in? Also the processor should be shielded to avoid the risk of RF feedback, and prevent the processor's LO signal from getting out. When used with a K2, I suspect that the K2's audio compressor should be set for a small degree of compression, if any, and most / all of the audio processing done by the RF clipper - just an unproven hunch. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF Speech Processor?
Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Henry, [EMAIL PROTECTED] , wrote: Has anyone tried any of the DF4ZS RF speech processors (http://jwm.de/afu/index0.htm) with a K2 yet? For those who think the SSB punch is a little weak, maybe this would help. In fact, maybe this would be a good Mini-Module Kit. -- Great idea! Although I have not used DF4ZS's speech processor, I have used various forms of this type of audio processor and RF clippers over the years and have found that they are useful, perhaps more so than low cost (not studio) audio compression devices. Personally if I intended to buy one of his processors I would go for the larger external unit, because reasonably good SSB filters should be used before and after the RF clipping circuits, all followed by an audio low pass filter at the output with a cutoff around 3kHz, all of which I believe he has included in the larger unit. This could of course be done with a smaller unit which included these items, but is there enough space inside the K2 to fit it in? Also the processor should be shielded to avoid the risk of RF feedback, and prevent the processor's LO signal from getting out. When used with a K2, I suspect that the K2's audio compressor should be set for a small degree of compression, if any, and most / all of the audio processing done by the RF clipper - just an unproven hunch. 73, Geoff GM4ESD Hi Geoff, I would suggest if your making a mini-module let it be a speech compression device, not a clipper. Compression increases average power used and sounds louder. If set too high it sounds odd and can create clipping that generates unwanted sidebands. On my radio I run compression all the time. It works in conjunction with the Automatic Linearity Control the radio has. If you don't have ALC it is harder to set the Compression. 73 Karl K5DI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF Speech Processor?
Hi Geoff, cut your weeds and we can both think hard on what Speech Compression really is. I got to thinking and about all it can be is clipping of the high voice peaks, and increasing audio drive. I will look at the ARRL Hand Book and see what they have. 73 Karl K5DI Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Karl Larsen, K5DI wrote: Hi Geoff, I would suggest if your making a mini-module let it be a speech compression device, not a clipper. Compression increases average power used and sounds louder. If set too high it sounds odd and can create clipping that generates unwanted sidebands. On my radio I run compression all the time. It works in conjunction with the Automatic Linearity Control the radio has. If you don't have ALC it is harder to set the Compression. - Hi Karl. A moot point!! I'll have to get back to you later today as I must get out to mow down the grass, mutating into elephant grass. With my K2/100 I use the audio compressor and a 'flicker' of ALC, but RF clipping and again a 'flicker' of ALC in the homebrew rig. One has to be very careful not to use too much ALC - other problems can arise. My apology for my haste, will reply later. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] SOC Marathon Sprint
Starts in just three hours: SECOND CLASS OPERATOR'S CLUB MARATHON SPRINT SOC Marathon Sprint Most sprints run four hours, but since we're Second Class Op's, we need more time! Date/Time: Sep. 9, 2006, 1800Z through 2400Z Exchange: Member - RST, State/Province/Country, SOC Number Non-Member - RST, State/Province/Country, Power Out QSO Points: Member = 5 Points Non-Member, Different Continent = 4 Points Non-Member, Same Continent = 2 Points Multiplier: SPC (State/Province/Country) total for all bands. The same station may be worked on more than one band for QSO points and SPC credit. Power Multiplier: 0 - 250 mW = X 15; 250 mW - 1 Watt = X 10; 1 W - 5 W = X 7; Over 5 W = X 1. Suggested Frequencies: 160 Meters1810 kHz 80 Meters 3560 kHz 40 Meters 7040 kHz 20 Meter 14060 kHz 15 Meters21060 kHz 10 Meters28060 kHz Score: Points (total for all bands) X SPCs (total for all bands) X Power Multiplier Apply an additional multiplier of 1.5 if using a homebrew paddle (kits such as the NorCal and AZ ScQRPions paddles qualify). All entries are Multi-Band to promote maximum participation. Entry includes a copy of the log and a separate summary sheet. Indicate total time-on-the-air, and include a legible name, call, SOC Number (if any) and address. All entries must be received within 30 days of the contest date. The highest output power used will determine the power multiplier. Include a description of homebrew equipment (including paddle or key), commercial equipment, and antennas used with each entry. Results may be posted on QRP-L and on the SOC Website. The final decision on all maters concerning the contest rests with the contest manager. Entries are welcome via E-Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , or by snail mail to: Bob Patten, N4BP 2841 N.W. 112 Terrace Plantation, FL 33323 -- 73, Bob Patten, N4BPPlantation, FL E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.qsl.net/n4bp QRP ARCI #3412SOC #1ARS #799SMIRK #6625 FISTS #7871 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF Speech Processor?
Karl Larsen wrote: Hi Geoff, cut your weeds and we can both think hard on what Speech Compression really is. I got to thinking and about all it can be is clipping of the high voice peaks, and increasing audio drive. I will look at the ARRL Hand Book and see what they have. In the AM days, many hams incorporated simple diode audio clippers in their modulators to clip the negative-going peaks of the audio signal, followed by lowpass filters to clean up the high-frequency distortion products produced by clipping. This permitted a higher level of modulation in the positive direction without splatter, thus increasing the average power in the signal. Some amount of compression was often used as well in order to increase the average modulation percentage. Processed AM signals sounded much louder without significant widening if the processing was done properly. When SSB came along, it was found that audio peak clipping did not have the desired result, because the height of the peaks in the RF envelope did not correspond directly to the audio envelope. So RF clipping came into use in which the clipping and filtering takes place after the generation of the SSB (or at least DSB) signal. AS Geoff points out, if you want to do this in the audio chain, you need to generate an RF signal, clip and filter it, and then convert it back to audio. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF Speech Processor?
the K2 already has a variale compression and noise gate chip for the mic preamp... analog devices SSM2165-1 see: http://www.analog.com/UploadedFiles/Data_Sheets/2864404SSM2165_b.pdf#search=%22ssm2165-1%22 I too would be interested to see how much additional distortionless average amplitude could be generated beyond the AD chip. bill ny9h ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF Speech Processor?
Hi, I have modified my K2 with the internal SSM2165. With the SSBC-Menu I can choose the compression 1:1 (1:1), 3:1 (2:1), 6:1 (3:1) and 9:1 (4:1) - the original in bracket -. The mod is very easy: You change RP5 to a 150k and connect Pin 2 and Pin 3 of RP5. Thats all! You find the mode in 'QRP-Report' 3/2004 (only in german). For interest, I can send a pdf. 72 Karl-Heinz, DF7KHK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Smooth Voice Controller? was K2 RF Speech Processor?
And along the same lines, what about a better VOX? The Smooth Voice Controller from April 1992 QST used a bucket brigade audio delay system to prevent any audio from being chopped off by the VOX. A QSK system for voice. Probably lots of better technology exists now than 14 years ago when that article was written by John Cowan, W4ZPS. Would also make a good Mini-Module Kit. Darrell VA7TO K2#5093 On September 8, 2006 06:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who think the SSB punch is a little weak, maybe this would help. In fact, maybe this would be a good Mini-Module Kit. -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] ECN - Info on 20m jammer
If this has been posted before, forgive me for the bandwidth. The following is excerpted from the ARRL letter: As the so-called Firedragon jammer continues to transmit in one or more Amateur Radio bands, the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) and three of its Region 3 member-societies so far have appealed to the jammer's target to move elsewhere. The Firedragon's all-music transmissions from the People's Republic of China (PRC) appear aimed at blocking the much-weaker broadcasts of the clandestine Sound of Hope (SOH), located outside the PRC.[ .] the SOH said its supporters use various avenues including Amateur Radio frequencies to get their message into the PRC. Through our investigation, we learned that the transmissions of SOH programs through Amateur Radio frequencies come from areas around China, and they each only target a local area of China with very low power, only for the intended audience and would interfere with nobody else, said SOH's Yue Chen. snip Wireless Institute of Australia (WIA) Director Glenn Dunstan, VK4DU, told the Sound of Hope via e-mail this week that if it wants the support of the international community, it should move its transmissions into legitimate broadcasting spectrum. snip Bihlmayer said September 6 that the Firedragon was back on 14.050 MHz -- a part of the 20-meter band allocated to the Amateur Radio Service on an exclusive basis worldwide -- after spending two days on 14.400 MHz. Over the past several months, the jammer also has been heard on 10.135 MHz, 14.260 MHz, 18.080 MHz and 18.160 MHz. The music jammer takes apparent monitoring breaks on the hour. When the jammer's carrier is off, Bihlmayer, who lives in Southern Germany, says he's heard a weak carrier on 14.050 MHz broadcasting a Chinese program that included speech. Note the use of 14050, and the breaks on the hour - just in time for Kevin to get the net started! 73 Ray K2HYD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF Speech Processor?
Thanks Bill for all the information and the fact that the K2 has a chip from Analog Devices that should do the desired job. I have the pdf thanks Bill and will study that with interest. A question. Does the K2 have a variable resistor at R! Compression ratio set? 73 Karl Bill NY9H wrote: the K2 already has a variale compression and noise gate chip for the mic preamp... analog devices SSM2165-1 see: http://www.analog.com/UploadedFiles/Data_Sheets/2864404SSM2165_b.pdf#search=%22ssm2165-1%22 I too would be interested to see how much additional distortionless average amplitude could be generated beyond the AD chip. bill ny9h ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KX1/pm works Central Russia
i worked RZ0AF in central Russia (Krasnoyarsk) on 20 meters with my KX1 to a 10 foot whip and a 13 foot drag wire from Kansas on 9-9-06 at 0200z. i had my drag wire heading north. In spite of the Bottom of the Cycle conditions, 20 meters is having openings. We had no mosquitoes in Kansas that night because the wind was blowing from the south. The only thing pedestrian mobiles have to watch out for are the stickers and the rattlesnakes ! i saw a snake along the road. Paul w0rw ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement -- change of venue
Good Evening Folks, Once again my nephew has worked me in to the ground. I am very relaxed :) The woodshed holds enough seasoned wood to get me through the end of the heating season. We are not going to stop cutting but will put the remainder under wraps outside. He'll get a decent amount home to Vancouver too. They like to have a fire now and then to heat their house. I've been warned of a recommencement of the folks playing music on 14050 kHz. If you hear music when you tune in look either 10 kHz up or down. I'll try to run off the edge of the jammer enough to allow weak signals to get through. Which brings up another point: I'll be running both nets from Shute Park in Hillsboro, Oregon. I'll not be at home on the ridge at 2000 feet with a doublet up at 65' but rather down in the valley with city RF noise and a doublet mounted as an inverted V. I was able to find a good deal on some Trojan T-105s so I will be running from batteries again. Both at the park and as a regular occurrence. Up until my deep cycle battery decided it was time to move on to battery heaven I've been running nets on emergency power. Occasionally I lose AC power for minutes to hours at a time. Battery power helps me through those times. I've grown used to being able to run CW while the house is off the grid. I am going to buy a few more before the next price jump and charge them via solar panels. Hopefully I can get more of my house of the grid in the future (like the well!!!) Since we will be under surveillance during ECN I may be distracted by folks asking questions while I have my normally puzzled expression firmly planted on my face. Be patient, I will get to you. Hopefully I will plant a few seeds and at least show them how CW works across the county with minimal gear. I think I'll take a few other CW rigs along and show them a variety of paddles too. I am going to have my headphones on through a Y-cable with the other section running a computer speaker. I've rigged the speaker to run through an Anderson Power Pole connection to my battery. If there is AC power available, however, I'll have a backup Astron power supply so I don't have to lug the batteries a hundred yards to the operation position. I am laying out contingency plans tonight. These are ARES folks so I'd better be prepared ;) Please join us: Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4pm PDT) 14050 kHz as per the jammer's tastes. Monday 0200z (Sunday 7pm PDT) 7045 kHz Until tomorrow, Kevin. KD5ONS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Lightning damage result/repair
Hi Yesterday a thunderstorm ran through here, and while I didn't think it was anywhere too close, the SWR bridge diodes in the KPA100 thought otherwise. A few hours after the storm, I fired the K2/100 up and it was receiving fine, but my troubles started when I tried to tune up. I don't recall all the events, but I do know I was quite surprised when the K2 started to tune and suddenly all the lights went out. A quick check of the fuse in the power cord showed the 20amp fuse had blown. Replacing the fuse bought the set to life again, but when I tried to transmit, the display showed unusual readings and it was obvious there was no power going up the spout. Immediate panic set in as I visualized sending to Elecraft for a pair of new finals. However, after taking the shield off the PA and poking around with the DMM, I quickly found the FWD diode in the SWR circuit open circuit and the REV diode gave a reading of 2.2ohms both ways round. The final out come resulted in a repair that cost me two 98c diodes and a couple of hours work, as Elecraft cunningly put the SWR bridge diodes in probably the most awkward place they could think of in the KPA100. Everything works fine again now, but I have to wonder what else may have been damaged and just waiting for the likes of Field Day to stop working? Another mystery to me is why didn't the diodes in the bridge circuit of the KAT100 go as well?? And what made the 20 amp fuse blow? (perhaps the power being ramped up too high as the diodes were in their death throws?) Cheers...Ron ZL1TW -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 8/09/2006 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K-2 and digital question
On Aug 30, 2006, at 11:02 AM, H.Cary III wrote: Has anyone connected a RigBlaster with their K2 for SSTV or PSK-31? I don't use a RigBlaster, but I built a homebrew box with a couple of transformers that I've successfully used both with MMTTY on an old Toshiba laptop and with CocoaModem on my PowerBook G4 12 laptop. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: Not within a thousand years will man ever fly! -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ECN - Info on 20m jammer
Thank you Ray. I've included a note to move up or down for tomorrow's 20 meter net if anyone hears the music. Hopefully my 'hearing' will not be impaired too much by working from a city with a less than optimal antenna. If all goes well I'll pull your KX1 out from the noise floor. But, your KX1 has done phenomenally well thus far; Wayne must have put a little something extra into that one ;) However, a good antenna and a bit of hardline has won a certain op from Colorado a great signal up into the wilderness above Buxton! I do hope tomorrow's nets go well for many reasons. We can have our usual enjoyment and some ARES/CERT folks can see the big grin on the Net Op 5th Class' face :) I get a big kick out of running these two nets each week and would miss them dearly if I could not run them. Thank you for all the enjoyment I've received over the years, Kevin. KD5ONS On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 10:01:24 -0700, Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this has been posted before, forgive me for the bandwidth. The following is excerpted from the ARRL letter: As the so-called Firedragon jammer continues to transmit in one or more Amateur Radio bands, the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) and three of its Region 3 member-societies so far have appealed to the jammer's target to move elsewhere. The Firedragon's all-music transmissions from the People's Republic of China (PRC) appear aimed at blocking the much-weaker broadcasts of the clandestine Sound of Hope (SOH), located outside the PRC.[ .] the SOH said its supporters use various avenues including Amateur Radio frequencies to get their message into the PRC. Through our investigation, we learned that the transmissions of SOH programs through Amateur Radio frequencies come from areas around China, and they each only target a local area of China with very low power, only for the intended audience and would interfere with nobody else, said SOH's Yue Chen. snip Wireless Institute of Australia (WIA) Director Glenn Dunstan, VK4DU, told the Sound of Hope via e-mail this week that if it wants the support of the international community, it should move its transmissions into legitimate broadcasting spectrum. snip Bihlmayer said September 6 that the Firedragon was back on 14.050 MHz -- a part of the 20-meter band allocated to the Amateur Radio Service on an exclusive basis worldwide -- after spending two days on 14.400 MHz. Over the past several months, the jammer also has been heard on 10.135 MHz, 14.260 MHz, 18.080 MHz and 18.160 MHz. The music jammer takes apparent monitoring breaks on the hour. When the jammer's carrier is off, Bihlmayer, who lives in Southern Germany, says he's heard a weak carrier on 14.050 MHz broadcasting a Chinese program that included speech. Note the use of 14050, and the breaks on the hour - just in time for Kevin to get the net started! 73 Ray K2HYD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
