[Elecraft] size of radio limits?
I do not accept Elecraft's reasoning that their rig is too small for that feature. At under 9 lbs, and the dimensions less than a loaf of bread, the K3 is already so small that it is nearing functional limits on the front panel compared to the size of fingers. And, yes, I think the IC-706 went well beyond the functional limit... too small. Ok, let us say a couple of desired features, like band stacking registers, would have added a half inch height to the front panel oh, gee, what a horror! Let us say another feature like band buttons or two other features would have added a whole pound to its weight, oh, no, its maybe even 12 pounds I can't carry it !!! Please, when a radio is this small, sacrificing reasonable other features because of size or weight is just not a reasonable excuse in my book. Cost, maybe; size, no. When ever did a ham say, oh gosh, this radio is just too big? Maybe the one day when he carries it onto his desk? Many more likely say, as I have hrd so often, the rig is too llittle for me. So where is the drive coming from for smaller is better? Ok, mobile rigs need to be small. So, I am going mobile with my K3 ? not, and few are, I bet. There does not even seem to be a mobile mount sold with it, telling us something there. I need a light rig for DXpeditions-- got one already (706), and how few K3 owners will go on DXpeditions? Maybe 2 dozen? So, maybe the need for a small K3 amounts to about 100 mobile uses and maybe 50 DXpeditioners. For 150 customers, lets design a small radio and let the other thousands of buyers cope with tiny, but, let us excuse left off features by saying everyone wanted it small Ha ! BUT, please keep my order for a K3 kit active 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ http://newlivehotmail.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: size of radio limits?
Charles, I'm the principal designer of the K3. I agonized over size/weight/functionality constraints for a full year, with a lot of help from twelve very smart colleagues, including my Elecraft co-founder Eric (WA6HHQ). Dozens of variables were debated. I went through over 200 iterations of the concept drawing. You could burn my 2005 phone bill to power a small town. I lost most of my hair, buried two cats, had a son, and worked until dawn more times than I want to admit. What you see is what you get :) 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 26, 2007, at 11:06 PM, Charles Harpole wrote: I do not accept Elecraft's reasoning... --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: size of radio limits?
I want this on a T-shirt! - jeff wk6i wayne burdick wrote: I'm the principal designer of the K3. I agonized over size/weight/functionality constraints for a full year, with a lot of help from twelve very smart colleagues, including my Elecraft co-founder Eric (WA6HHQ). Dozens of variables were debated. I went through over 200 iterations of the concept drawing. You could burn my 2005 phone bill to power a small town. I lost most of my hair, buried two cats, had a son, and worked until dawn more times than I want to admit. What you see is what you get :) -- Jeff Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Twisted Oak Winery http://www.twistedoak.com/ Winery Blog http://www.elbloggotorcido.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Help ! i have just killed my K1
Was just off to work and decided to take my K1 with me for a a play a lunch time, picked up a antenna i had been playing with and just connected it to the k1 in the shack with the antenna thrown around the room, but i was powering the K1 from a varable bench supply at the time, put it in tune mode and the k1 started to tune, i then noticed that the bench supply was reading around 17v DC (must be rf getting into it as it was 12.5v before) and current limiting at around 1.5 Amps. before i could do anything the K1 went off and a smell of burning from it could be detected. now the K1 reads a direct short when you apply power , got to run to work now but any ideas where to start looking when i get home would be a great help. regards Paul M0BMN ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] size of radio limits?
I don't get this rant. There ARE band-stacking registers on the K3. In fact, FOUR per band instead of the three per band on the ProIII and only two per band in some other radios. Yes, the band-changing UI is different than the ProIII and other radios, but you know what? ... I've gotten to like it even more, once I opened my mind up to a different UI. Believe me, I and several other focus group members and field testers have pounded on Wayne and the design team for over two years now on the critical features needed in the K3. Band registers is one of them. Yes, the K3 band-changing UI is different than many other radios, but that doesn't make it wrong or bad or inferior ... just different. I suggest you QRX until you get your hands on a K3 and that you approach it with an open mind. It is an amazing and impressive radio. 73, Ed - W0YK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Harpole Sent: Thursday, 26 July, 2007 23:06 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? I do not accept Elecraft's reasoning that their rig is too small for that feature. At under 9 lbs, and the dimensions less than a loaf of bread, the K3 is already so small that it is nearing functional limits on the front panel compared to the size of fingers. And, yes, I think the IC-706 went well beyond the functional limit... too small. Ok, let us say a couple of desired features, like band stacking registers, would have added a half inch height to the front panel oh, gee, what a horror! Let us say another feature like band buttons or two other features would have added a whole pound to its weight, oh, no, its maybe even 12 pounds I can't carry it !!! Please, when a radio is this small, sacrificing reasonable other features because of size or weight is just not a reasonable excuse in my book. Cost, maybe; size, no. When ever did a ham say, oh gosh, this radio is just too big? Maybe the one day when he carries it onto his desk? Many more likely say, as I have hrd so often, the rig is too llittle for me. So where is the drive coming from for smaller is better? Ok, mobile rigs need to be small. So, I am going mobile with my K3 ? not, and few are, I bet. There does not even seem to be a mobile mount sold with it, telling us something there. I need a light rig for DXpeditions-- got one already (706), and how few K3 owners will go on DXpeditions? Maybe 2 dozen? So, maybe the need for a small K3 amounts to about 100 mobile uses and maybe 50 DXpeditioners. For 150 customers, lets design a small radio and let the other thousands of buyers cope with tiny, but, let us excuse left off features by saying everyone wanted it small Ha ! BUT, please keep my order for a K3 kit active 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ http://newlivehotmail.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help ! i have just killed my K1
Paul, First of all, my condolences! The easiest way to approach it is to look at the schematic and find which devices connect to 12 volts, and suspect any or all of them until they have proved themselves OK. The initial list is D19, Q7, Q6, U9 and U5 (plus any components associated with these active devices). You may have to resort to removing them one at a time to discover which one failed and then try to figure out which passive components that device took out after it shorted. 73, Don W3FPR Paul Webb wrote: Was just off to work and decided to take my K1 with me for a a play a lunch time, picked up a antenna i had been playing with and just connected it to the k1 in the shack with the antenna thrown around the room, but i was powering the K1 from a varable bench supply at the time, put it in tune mode and the k1 started to tune, i then noticed that the bench supply was reading around 17v DC (must be rf getting into it as it was 12.5v before) and current limiting at around 1.5 Amps. before i could do anything the K1 went off and a smell of burning from it could be detected. now the K1 reads a direct short when you apply power , got to run to work now but any ideas where to start looking when i get home would be a great help. regards Paul M0BMN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Puffery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: When ever did a ham say, oh gosh, this radio is just too big? You're new around here, aren't you? :-) I do not accept Elecraft's reasoning... O...well then, you're free to design your own! Obviously many thousands of happy Elecrafters don't agree with you... John K5MO K1/K2 and hopefully soon, K3 owner ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 : band stacking registers
I'd like to understand more about the use of the buttons M1 through M4, as they apply to memory recall within a given band. The best way for Elecraft to show off this radio's bazillion functions is to create a meta-tagged MPEG4 video of someone (Wayne?) going through each function of the entire rig. With such a searchable file, I could simply click for what I wanted to see, instead of having to watch an entire 40 minute 3 GB tutorial. This demo video would help sell the second thousand of these radios. Back to the M1 - M4 buttons ... For them to be effectively used as band stack registers they would have to perform that function without a two-tap modality; in other words, this action would best not happen with a press-and-hold, multiple tap, or as an 'F' type process. Just looking at the rig, I can't tell if that's how these buttons work. It seems like they are there for voice and CW keyer functions, not for memory recall. How does the radio know that pressing M3 means go to the 3rd memory for this band rather than play the voice message #3 or send the CW message #3 ?? ... *all* of which ought to be one-press functions. Tough to do this well with what I see on the front panel. I'm not given to K4VUD's acerbicity, but if you read deeper into what he's saying, it's based on a sincere interest and rooted in this concern. The ultimate use scenario matrix for the K3 front panel remains quite attractive. For example, one generally uses band stacking registers AFTER one is already on the band. As I attempt to think how the designer was thinking, the arrival at this particular design decision has to have been at least partly based on this ergonometric fact. (I've talked to the guy enough to find that he's pretty bright.) Yes, it would be nice to just hit the 40m button to get there and then tap it again to move between frequencies on that band. An hour up at HRO in Sunnyvale playing with a PROIII front panel would have convinced me of that. But I'd gladly go through the K3's 'other' band select mechanism(s) if I knew that once I was there, the M1 - M4 buttons worked the way I want them to. Because my time with the K2 at Dayton was limited, I was unable to self-teach on the topic. This lack of understanding of this keypad operation is one of the very few remaining barriers to ordering a K3 for myself. Again, a tagged digital feature-walk-through video would be immensely useful. This keypad operation is more than an academic interest to me. Since control panel ergonomics and ultra high dynamic range mixers are my two radio passions, the K3 could be a true pinnacle of design reference in my own experience. I already know how much engineering went into the BUTTONS themselves!! You would not believe the details these guys sweated over. Of course, the K3 being a firmware driven animal, whatever the operational differences between what I'd like and what's there now, the fact that numerically sufficient and labeled buttons exist in real-space is all that really matters. The firmware engineer will be able to make it do what it needs to do. Finally, even if that fails, there's an external control system which would allow ME to build a MCU-equipped external keypad. This keypad would create the band-stack register functionality that the radio itself might lack, by sending the suitable commands to the radio's control input. If Elecraft doesn't make the rig work the way I want it to, which I do NOT expect, I will simply build this external keypad gizmo and sell copies (as kits, of course) to others who are looking for the same thing I am. gee. Profits from the sale of this gizmo could pay for the radio! 73 Steve KZ1X/4 Chapel Hill Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 : band stacking registers
Steve Jackson wrote: Yes, it would be nice to just hit the 40m button to get there and then tap it again to move between frequencies on that band. An hour up at HRO in Sunnyvale playing with a PROIII front panel would have convinced me of that. I used to agree with that - that having Band Buttons to press to change bands was the only way to go. And maybe 20 years ago it was - Band Buttons or Bandswitch. And I thought that was going to be a major problem that I would have with the K2. But it was not a problem. Why? Because 90% of my band or frequency changes come from the laptop or PC. Type the frequency where I want to go. Click on the DX spot. Go Band Up or Band Down from the function keys. Maybe it's a workaround for not having Band Buttons, but I don't miss not having them on the K2 and won't miss having them on the K3. 73HankK8DD -- --- 'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.'-anon --- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3's physical size
I had a 756PRO years ago which I sold after I got the K2. The band scope was a nice toy, but I really didn't miss it. It made no difference to my signal at the other end, and it didn't help me copy people better either. As for helping to spot activity on a dead band, well, the K2 has a nice scanning feature that will do that and you don't even have to be in the same room to be alerted by it. I guess the K3 has something similar (perhaps you will even be able to program in the computer birdies so it doesn't stop on them?) I'm not saying those who want a band scope shouldn't have one, but why does it have to be an integral part of the radio? An external option is a much better idea. I might even buy one myself in a few years time if I have money burning a hole in my pocket after I've filled up the K3 with filters. Better than having a radio with too many empty holes for options you don't want or can't afford, right from the start. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Puffery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: When ever did a ham say, oh gosh, this radio is just too big? I've looked at the Ten-Tec Orion and the bigger Yaesus and said exactly that. A glance at the picture on my home page will explain why. Mind you, after I said that, I also said never mind, I can't afford it anyway! -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: size of radio limits?
It's not the content of the response that's impressive - it's the fact that you got one in the first place. This contributes to why so many people are willing to lay down their hard earned cash on a radio they have never seen. From Charles I do not accept. From Wayne giant phone bill, new son, cats, hair loss...WYSIWYG Tom, AK2B (Ok, I lied, I was more impressed by the content.) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug
- Original Message - From: Charles Allison To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:20 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug Chris, My wife got the bug bug, the straight key bug, the iambic key bug... fairly recently too. She is a dedicated but fairly slow cw operator as well and keeps a 1960 vintage vibroplex, a blackwidow iambic and a modern russian knockoff of the world war II Junkers german key all tied to her K2 at the same time. She's also got 3 or 4 more bugs, mostly Vibroplex. One can buy weights for the Vibroplex to slow it down and I think she's got 2 weights on her regular key. One of the keys had a 4-40 screw hole tapped in the side of the weight. It was explained that this used to be done by some operators that installed a copper tube, squashed and drilled, to provide an extra weight as a lever that could be used to immediately change speeds by pushing the top outward or inward - without having to loosen the weight screw, position the weight and then tightening the weight screw down again. best regards, Charles wb5izd Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:08:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Kantarjiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got the bug bug about a year ago, and found a 1923 Vibroplex in decent shape. Yeah, the dot rate is way too fast to learn with. After exploring many options for slowing it, I went to a local hobby shop and got a bit of brass tubing that has an ID that is a slip fit over the rod. About 6 did it for me - slows the dots right down and still allows me to do some adjusting. 73 de chris K6DBG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
I suggest that Elecraft START their K3 WARRANTY, at shipment date. Wording on Elecraft site, talks about order-date. But with the initial waiting periods, and now another 4-week delay in shipments - it makes much more sense, to start our K3 rig warranties, from the day the units ship. I realize Elecraft has a great customer satisfaction program - but it just makes sense to date our K3 Warranties, from date Elecraft actually shipped it to us. Fred, N3CSY, NY/FL . snowbird, a'waiting Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Wood bits
On this side of the lake these bits are known as brad-points...There is another similar type known as Forstner, but they are much more expensive and I am not sure they are available in the smaller diameters... Jerry, wa2dkg Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but, I've tried using wood drills (the ones with the point which only cut on the outside edge, good for thin sheet metal, too) to make copper lands on a plain board. I think they are also known as torpedo drills. I've seen kits made up of lots of little squares or circles of pcb material that you stick onto your main copper clad board. That's a little more messy, but works. I prefer the drill method, it also starts a hole for your component wire. David G3UNA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3's physical size
I would say because the display can be used for lots more then JUST a band scope. The band scope is most useful in AM mode that I operate frequently, a bit harder to read when using ssb and cw maybe...but it can tell you if a band has any signals on it at a glance. If you remember, you could punch the menu button and get listings and displays of the options and their settings, like 25 things on one screen. That's sort nice to have. I think it can make a radio simple to learn and operate if its done right. I don't think I ever needed to open the manual when using the 756 pro. I would need to with the K2, and likely would with the K3. In my industry, we seem to have two types of equipment, one with multi menus, and one with buttons. One particular piece of test equipment I hated was a phoenix? that had a screen, 4 arrow buttons and an enter button. It also had about 5000 menu and sub menu locations, all unknown unless you searched using the arrows and enter buttons. Whoever designed that should have been fired. They should have used the screen to display gobs of info and menu choices, with buttons to select things. Instead they just displayed the one menu spot you were at. Hey, except for the K2, all my gear is home brew tube stuff, so I don't need modern gizmo's but I DID find the big display very useful and nice to have. Besides the user interface and band scope, the 756 pro was a poor performer though... Brett N2DTS I had a 756PRO years ago which I sold after I got the K2. The band scope was a nice toy, but I really didn't miss it. It made no difference to my signal at the other end, and it didn't help me copy people better either. As for helping to spot activity on a dead band, well, the K2 has a nice scanning feature that will do that and you don't even have to be in the same room to be alerted by it. I guess the K3 has something similar (perhaps you will even be able to program in the computer birdies so it doesn't stop on them?) I'm not saying those who want a band scope shouldn't have one, but why does it have to be an integral part of the radio? An external option is a much better idea. I might even buy one myself in a few years time if I have money burning a hole in my pocket after I've filled up the K3 with filters. Better than having a radio with too many empty holes for options you don't want or can't afford, right from the start. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Second call: K2 broken after KPA100 mod
I was hoping someone would answer me on this one. The phone lines at Elecraft don't open until I am at work. I am about done with part 1 of the assembly of the KPA100 option. I opened the K2 and removed pin 4 from P4 on the control board per the instructions. Rather than connect the partially assembled KPA100 to the K2, I powered up the K2 first. Now the K2 doesn't initialize. Apparently my K2 is not completely broken. With the antenna hooked up, the receiver is definitely alive. It appears that the control board isn't functioning. The display stops ELECrAFt and doesn't go further. The tuning knob has no function. The S meter doesn't move. But sometimes signals are heard. I DON'T hear the 4 MHz clock in another receiver per the K2 troubleshooting section. I did the firmware reset hoping that might fix it. It didn't. I did have the CAL FIL BFO settings saved in a spreadsheet. But I didn't have any CAL PLL settings written down. Once the K2 is back, I'll have to learn that procedure since this is a used K2. One definite repeatable symptom, is that the power has to be toggled on TWICE, before anything is displayed on the LCD. Please I hope for some assistance here. It is probably a loose connection, but everything seems solid. I will be emailing Elecraft support also. 73, Steve N6VL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
Fred: Don't worry, pal... they'll make it 'right'.. Tom Hammond N0SS At 09:39 07/27/2007, Fred (FL) wrote: I suggest that Elecraft START their K3 WARRANTY, at shipment date. Wording on Elecraft site, talks about order-date. But with the initial waiting periods, and now another 4-week delay in shipments - it makes much more sense, to start our K3 rig warranties, from the day the units ship. I realize Elecraft has a great customer satisfaction program - but it just makes sense to date our K3 Warranties, from date Elecraft actually shipped it to us. Fred, N3CSY, NY/FL . snowbird, a'waiting Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: size of radio limits?
In the spirit of the movie Tommy Boy: That was -- awesome! --- but sorry about your cats and hair though I usually lurk here, but couldn't resist commenting on Wayne's response to an apparent rant. I got my hands on the K3 in Dayton while working in the Elecraft booth. I watched Wayne, Eric, Lyle and many others, tirelessly; give demonstrations of the multiple units in the booth. After spending a few hours with the K3, you can see the hours of agony that went into the UI and that like anything new, it just takes a little time to find your way around it. I have a software development background with a lot of UI development, and after talking and listening to Wayne after a few hours, you can tell that this UI has gone through painstaking iterative design. I can assure you that all of the common functions are a button away. Others are only a couple of buttons away. In fact much more functionality is available on the front panel than the K2 and I didn't think the K2 was bad after learning the ropes, so to speak. I'm sure there is no way to satisfy everyone, but I think after spending a little time with this radio, the sharpest critics will begin to see the beauty. And, if there is something more you need, all of the functions have been externalized for software (and some hardware) control so you can roll your own (as I'm sure Simon is doing right now). Besides, if they put everything the K3 can do on a front panel, you would have to put the UI on a panel the size of a wall, and as a short Ham, I would have to resort to a ladder to reach the top buttons :-) Wayne, Eric, Lyle, all at Elecraft, all of the beta testers, and all of the list contributors, keep up the good work. It is VERY evident to me that the K3 is going to be a great product and I am patiently waiting for mine to arrive. And I mean patiently - the delay does not bother me one bit knowing that I'm going to receive your best effort when it hits my door. Besides, I'm still having a great time with my K2 and playing around with some different antennas this summer. Stay the course, get some sleep when you can - can't help you with the hair - I lost all of mine long ago! BTW Wayne - congrats on your son. Hope you get to spend some time with him :-) 73, Dave W8FGU Charles, I'm the principal designer of the K3. I agonized over size/weight/functionality constraints for a full year, with a lot of help from twelve very smart colleagues, including my Elecraft co-founder Eric (WA6HHQ). Dozens of variables were debated. I went through over 200 iterations of the concept drawing. You could burn my 2005 phone bill to power a small town. I lost most of my hair, buried two cats, had a son, and worked until dawn more times than I want to admit. What you see is what you get :) 73, Wayne N6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Wood bits
On this side of the lake these bits are known as brad-points...There is another similar type known as Forstner, but they are much more expensive and I am not sure they are available in the smaller diameters... After a few days use, I've found the diamond core drills to work pretty well for making island pads. Depending on where you purchase them and the drill size, the price runs between $4 and $12 each. They seem to be available commonly on Ebay as sets from Hong Kong. Domestic US sources are more expensive. The diamond core drills are used in stained glass and rock collecting hobbies. They are a true core drill and do not cut a center hole. This also means the work can get away from you if not clamped to the drill press table. I have 5 mm (3/16), 7 mm (1/4) and 8 mm (5/16) core drills and find myself using the 7 mm more than the others. Jack K8ZOA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3
W4ZV: How are these indicated on the display? I don't see an indication on the high resolution picture. Of course I used an Orion for several years without band- stacking indication but I hope the K3 has one. No indication planned on the display. You select the per-band memory you want by tapping M-V followed by the appropriate M1-M4 button. (Programmed by V-M.) Numbered memories 00-99 are global. How would you use an indicator? 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Wood bits
Forstner bits are available to 1/8th inch, but are expensive. The reason not to use them is that the cutting edge would dull in no time due to the copper clad board. A real waste of a good bit. Mike K4ELV - Original Message - From: Jeremiah McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Wood bits On this side of the lake these bits are known as brad-points...There is another similar type known as Forstner, but they are much more expensive and I am not sure they are available in the smaller diameters... Jerry, wa2dkg Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but, I've tried using wood drills (the ones with the point which only cut on the outside edge, good for thin sheet metal, too) to make copper lands on a plain board. I think they are also known as torpedo drills. I've seen kits made up of lots of little squares or circles of pcb material that you stick onto your main copper clad board. That's a little more messy, but works. I prefer the drill method, it also starts a hole for your component wire. David G3UNA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/922 - Release Date: 7/27/2007 6:08 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 : band stacking registers
I lost most of my hair, buried two cats, had a son, and worked until dawn more times than I want to admit. I'm calling Yaesu today to find out how many cats they buried in the development of the FT1000MP. I want the BEST. Or is this a Michael Vick reference? I sure hope Wayne didn't fall into the Aptos cat fighting crowd. disclaimer - PLEASE don't email me on this it's a joke joke funny - okay? !!! ;-) [Elecraft] Re: size of radio limits? wayne burdick n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jul 27 02:19:52 EDT 2007 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug
Don't feel bad Fred. It's such a problem for me I avoid keyers now. I considered Arnie's option because, being nominally a leftie as a child I learned the straight key left handed then learned the bug right handed (ambidextrousness is a bonus at times). I never had any confusion with muscle memory between the two types of keys that way. I learned a keyer right handed too, and had grown quite proficient using Iambic or squeeze keying and loved it, but those darn bug paddles don't do anything useful when you squeeze them. When I do use a keyer these days (e.g. my KX1 in the field) I use it like a 'bug', tapping the dash lever for each dash, etc. Not an ideal solution, but it helps avoid my reverting to keyer muscle memory and 'forgetting' how to use a bug again. For me, that happens very quickly. If I let myself, it only takes a few minutes to be whizzing along with an Iambic keyer again, then it takes hours to regain some semblance of decent timing on the bug. That's not too surprising. A keyer requires but the most rudimentary sort of timing compared to a bug. That's one of the keyer's attractive features. Years ago I suggested a bug mode in the Elecraft keyers in which they would simply produce the outputs a bug does: key down as along as the dash paddle is closed and a string of dots at the speed set when the dot paddle is closed. It never happened. I suppose there aren't enough of us bug-oriented masochistic curmudgeons around to make it worthwhile ;-) Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Fred, I had the same problem 30 yrs ago. Ended up working the keyer with my left hand and the vibroplex with my right. Instant switching is possible without any mistake. Hope this helps. 73 Arie PA3A -- I try to use it on SKN, but it's a chore. Switching between a bug and keyer is harder than one might think. 73, Fred K6DGW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 : band stacking registers
I am not at all enamored with a band stacking register indicator. They added one to the Orion and it is meaningless. How do I remember what band stacking register 3 on 20 meters is vs. band stacking register 4 or band staking register 3 on 40 meters. The display already shows you the frequency and mode. If you aren't where you want to be, push the button again. It is that easy. Let's wait until the radios get delivered to start fine tuning the interface. And to the guys at Elecraft: THANK YOU for wanting to get it right before you release. We can wait. Disclaimer - No cats were harmed in the making of this message. Craig Buck k4ia Fredericksburg, Virginia USA ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3
W0YK: No indication planned on the display. You select the per-band memory you want by tapping M-V followed by the appropriate M1-M4 button. (Programmed by V-M.) Numbered memories 00-99 are global. I've got it now. You directly access the desired stack memory by choosing M1-M4. So I would adopt a simple convention M1 = CW, M2 = SSB, etc. The stack in Orion was accessed by pressing the band button with the 4-stack memory rotating in one direction only. The only way to tell which stack you were on was to scroll through all 4. Eventually (...after 3 years) they added an ABCD indicator to the display. How would you use an indicator? Given the way the K3 stack works I agree one is unnecessary. I also like being able to directly access a stack memory with just 2 button presses, rather than potentially using 4 presses via scrolling, as in Orion and Omni VII. I've always been pleasantly surprised by the ergonomics of the K2. Translation: It does what I expect and doesn't do unexpected and unwanted things. With the thought that has obviously gone into the K3, I expect I'll continue to be pleasantly surprised and even delighted. I also appreciate Elecraft using some very competent contesters (e.g. N6TR, N6XI, W0YK, etc) as beta testers and taking their inputs seriously. 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: When I do use a keyer these days (e.g. my KX1 in the field) I use it like a 'bug', tapping the dash lever for each dash, etc. Not an ideal solution, but it helps avoid my reverting to keyer muscle memory and 'forgetting' how to use a bug again. For me, that happens very quickly. If I let myself, it only takes a few minutes to be whizzing along with an Iambic keyer again, then it takes hours to regain some semblance of decent timing on the bug. I've found that squeeze keying is different enough from side-to-side bug operation that only a small amount of practice is needed to get the ability to use the bug back. This was not the case when I used to use a single-lever paddle. Years ago I suggested a bug mode in the Elecraft keyers in which they would simply produce the outputs a bug does: key down as along as the dash paddle is closed and a string of dots at the speed set when the dot paddle is closed. It never happened. I suppose there aren't enough of us bug-oriented masochistic curmudgeons around to make it worthwhile ;-) I've tried such things and they never work because (at least for me) the tactile feedback from the momentum of the bug weight is important to my timing. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3
No wonder I was being confused by all this - HEY, if you can access any of the 4 memories randomly, then it is no longer a 'stack'! From what little programming I learned, a 'stack' is accessed only from the top - you stuff things into it, and then remove the topmost one, throw it away if that is not what you wanted and do it over again until you have the correct one. (OK, my mind goes back to the 8080 PUSH and POP instructions). If it were me, I would have named them something like 'In-band memory' rather than 'Band Stacking Memory', but I guess there is some precedent for that name. In any case, I am glad that the K3 offers random access for these memories. 73, Don W3FPR Bill Tippett wrote: W0YK: No indication planned on the display. You select the per-band memory you want by tapping M-V followed by the appropriate M1-M4 button. (Programmed by V-M.) Numbered memories 00-99 are global. I've got it now. You directly access the desired stack memory by choosing M1-M4. So I would adopt a simple convention M1 = CW, M2 = SSB, etc. The stack in Orion was accessed by pressing the band button with the 4-stack memory rotating in one direction only. The only way to tell which stack you were on was to scroll through all 4. Eventually (...after 3 years) they added an ABCD indicator to the display. How would you use an indicator? Given the way the K3 stack works I agree one is unnecessary. I also like being able to directly access a stack memory with just 2 button presses, rather than potentially using 4 presses via scrolling, as in Orion and Omni VII. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Tune into #elecraft channel once in a while - IRC.WorldIRC.ORG
Here is a sample conversation from the #elecraft channel. Try out your irc skills. It would be nice to have a little more activity. On irc IRC.WorldIRC.ORG (WordIRC) channel #elecraft n7gmt well, not at home but ... :-) nv7f yes, where can I buy that really small 50 ohm coax used inside radios for connecting 50 ohm rf points n7gmt that's either RC-174 or RG-316(?) (military equiv.) n7gmt I think wireman carries it - http://wireman.com/ nv7f thank you, I will give it a try nv7f don't want to stress the circuit board on this kit n7gmt any place that sells coax will likely have it -- or can get it nv7f only need 18 inches n7gmt rr n7gmt I picked some up at a local electronic supply house n7gmt call around and ask for RG-174 nv7f ok great idea, we have standard supply here in salt lake nv7f are you the moderator? n7gmt the military-grade has teflon dialectric, iirc n7gmt nope, just one of the senior flunkies n7gmt yeah, standard should have it, iirc * n7gmt works in S. Jordan nv7f I build a tenna dipper and it works - maybe there is hope for me n7gmt I got mine from Central Utah down in Provo n7gmt :D n7gmt good luck on that hope thing nv7f I have to work up to the elecraft kit status - it may take a while * n7gmt attended training recently where the pseudo-motto was I feel much better now that I have given up hope. n7gmt the mini kits are quite easy n7gmt I have built a KX1 and K2 nv7f yes, maybe an atu? nv7f or a signal source generator n7gmt yeah, I've done the T1 -- handheld auto tuner ... nv7f Yes - a want a K2 nv7f good qrp rig nv7f do you like the T1 n7gmt the only tricky thing (for me) on the T1 was getting the BNC panel-mount connectors on without melting the dialectric nv7f does it work? n7gmt yes, I do. it works well, is quite fast, and it fits in your pocket nv7f Thats just what I want nv7f I have gotten some great ideas off the reflector too nv7f Like Kestler 44 solder! n7gmt the T1, combined with the 1:1+4:1 balun (I forget the SKU) is great for balanced-line doublets and horiz. loops n7gmt yeah, I need to get some kestler ... some day sigh nv7f great idea - I am a balanced line type n7gmt so much time, so little to do ... scratch that; reverse it -- Willy Wonka nv7f Also the soldering iron at Circuits Specialist for $40 same as Hakko n7gmt same quality as the Hakko? n7gmt my wife got me a nice Weller station years ago, so I've never gone shopping. nv7f don't have it yet, go to the web site and check it out - looks exactly the same nv7f I use the hakko at the lab at the college with all the test equipment n7gmt do you like the Hakko in the lab? nv7f If there was more activity here this irc would grow - but it is getting it started. n7gmt yeah, we go in little spurts nv7f yes, very much. Very good tips and good temp control. Highly recommended. n7gmt mostly there's about a half-dozen of us that hang out in here on a regular basis. nv7f I am going to build a DC40A and then a MMR-40 SSB/CW rig. n7gmt good to know @ hakko; I've heard good stuff on the reflector about them nv7f check out ciruit specialists. nv7f it is on the front page. And with a $50 order then give you what looks like a very nice DVM n7gmt NICE! @ qrpkits.com -- I might have to get those too nv7f I am going to modify the DC40A with a ceramic resonator so I can plug it farther - make it tunable. n7gmt which reminds me ... I have a 20m RockMite still in kit form hiding in the basement somewhere. :-/ nv7f The MMR-40 is having good success at the build level. n7gmt need to go find that nv7f yes nv7f The DC40A is a good fixed freq rig. 2nd generation nv7f But there is a mod to pull the xtal 2khz with a var capacitor n7gmt that would be handy. nv7f I may post this conversation on the reflector to get people interested - what do you think? n7gmt no skin off /my/ nose :) nv7f Well I could say here is what's happening on the #elecraft channel - tune in! n7gmt but then they might show up and I would be forced to ignore them! ;-) nv7f By the way the tenna dipper is a cool little kit - with a pic chip! nv7f It send morse code of the freq of the antenna. Choice of 15wpm and 21wpm n7gmt another project I'd like to pick up nv7f Very useful and easy to build. n7gmt hmm ... no 5WPM eh? nv7f sorry nv7f I admit it - I have to use the 15wpm n7gmt lol well, all the more reason to increase my CW skills nv7f It has 4 bands and you just tune till the led goes out - then press a button and the freq is sent in CW! nv7f Actually it has 8 bands - a high and low range nv7f But you have to realign the osc for each range when switching ranges n7gmt rr ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3
Don Wilhelm wrote: No wonder I was being confused by all this - HEY, if you can access any of the 4 memories randomly, then it is no longer a 'stack'! From what little programming I learned, a 'stack' is accessed only from the top - you stuff things into it, and then remove the topmost one, throw it away if that is not what you wanted and do it over again until you have the correct one. (OK, my mind goes back to the 8080 PUSH and POP instructions). If it were me, I would have named them something like 'In-band memory' rather than 'Band Stacking Memory', but I guess there is some precedent for that name. In any case, I am glad that the K3 offers random access for these memories. Right on, Don. It is not a stack. The implementation of band-stacking resisters in most of the available rigs today is that of a circular queue, a first-in first-out (FIFO) mechanism that is only accessible in one direction from the starting point. I much prefer the Elecraft K3 random-access array of memories. Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Second call: K2 broken after KPA100 mod
Steve, There is no direct relationship between your symptoms and what you intended to accomplish. So this is something that inadvertently happened along the way. The first thing to do is inspect the control board visually - in most cases an unsoldered or poorly soldered connection is to blame for behavior like that. Move things around a bit to see if you can make it change from working to not working. Also check the soldering of the connectors at the front of the RF Board - they provide a path between the front panel and the control board. Be certain the microprocessor (Control Board U6) is properly seated in its socket and no pins are bent under the chip (you may have to remove it to check for bent under pins - use good anti-static measures if you remove it). If the problem does not reveal itself visually, the next step is to do DC voltage measurements on the control board and possibly the Front Panel board. Compare to the DC Voltage chart in the back of the manual. Since you purchased a used K2, the level may be important - please let us know the serial number and state of updating that it may have had. I am sorry I cannot provide a more concrete answer, but it does have nothing to do with the KPA100 installation at the point where you are now. 73, Don W3FPR Steve Kallal wrote: I was hoping someone would answer me on this one. The phone lines at Elecraft don't open until I am at work. I am about done with part 1 of the assembly of the KPA100 option. I opened the K2 and removed pin 4 from P4 on the control board per the instructions. Rather than connect the partially assembled KPA100 to the K2, I powered up the K2 first. Now the K2 doesn't initialize. Apparently my K2 is not completely broken. With the antenna hooked up, the receiver is definitely alive. It appears that the control board isn't functioning. The display stops ELECrAFt and doesn't go further. The tuning knob has no function. The S meter doesn't move. But sometimes signals are heard. I DON'T hear the 4 MHz clock in another receiver per the K2 troubleshooting section. I did the firmware reset hoping that might fix it. It didn't. I did have the CAL FIL BFO settings saved in a spreadsheet. But I didn't have any CAL PLL settings written down. Once the K2 is back, I'll have to learn that procedure since this is a used K2. One definite repeatable symptom, is that the power has to be toggled on TWICE, before anything is displayed on the LCD. Please I hope for some assistance here. It is probably a loose connection, but everything seems solid. I will be emailing Elecraft support also. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3
unnecessary. I also like being able to directly access a stack memory with just 2 button presses, rather than potentially using 4 presses via scrolling, as in Orion and Omni VII. Exactly. Leave it to Elecraft to thoughtfully consider the use case for band-stacking registers and implement a better solution. We should probably stop perpetuating the name band-stacking registers since the K3 has random access band memories. That's just the name everyone knows the function by since prior radios implemented it that way. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] COQP Logs Due
Hi, A reminder that logs for the Colorado QSO Party need to be submitted by July 31st. As of July 27th, 144 logs were received. Only about 20 are mobile logs. From received logs it appears there should be nearly 50 mobile logs. Please submit your in-state or out-of-state logs by the above date. We will accept manual logs postmarked by the above date. Email cabrillo logs to coqplogs-at-ppraa.org. For in state cabrillo logs be sure to include the county abbreviation in the file name. Attach the file to the email only rather than including it in the body of the email. Mail manual logs to: PPRAA-COQP Logs PO Box 16521 Colorado Springs, CO 80935-6521 We have over 50 plaques to give to deserving category winners. Certificates will go to second and third place winners in each category. Please take the time to sent in your logs. They are usable even if you only had a few contacts. Thank you and look forward to receiving your logs. 73, Jim, AB0UK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3
unnecessary. I also like being able to directly access a stack memory with just 2 button presses, rather than potentially using 4 presses via scrolling, as in Orion and Omni VII. Exactly. Leave it to Elecraft to thoughtfully consider the use case for band-stacking registers and implement a better solution. We should I think that even two keypresses could be improved to only one. Suggested if you press (anyKey) + M1 it deactivates the keyer/voice keyer function and the button operates only in the band select mode until the next power down or (anyKey) + M1. Also, I was assuming that if I press M1 and it takes me to say 21.030 CW and I dial to 21.060 and then press the M2, that I'm taken to whatever is stored in M2 --after-- 21.060 is saved at M1. Yaesu calls this tunable memories in the FT890 and it's great because I'll always forget to do a V-M after QSY to 21.060 and before pressing M2. If you leave the computer off while operating, non-tunable memories are cumbersome. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] WB3AAL BB#35 on the Appalachian Trail
Hello, The Flight of the Bumblebees is upon us again and I will try to be out on the Appalachian trail as BB#35. I like to operate this contest a lot but I never have too much success with the weather. Usually get rained out with violent thunderstorms. The weather for my BB area on Sunday has a 60% chance of Thunderstorms. I would like to hike to the top of the mountain near Eckville, PA. This would place me on top of the mountain and it is a 45 minute hike about 2 1/2 mile up a rocky trail. If the weather looks bad on Sunday I will head to my other location which is about a 10 minute hike and it places me on the side of a mountain close to the top. Look for me from the Appalachian Trail as BB#35. I will also be looking for stations that are on the Appalachian Trail in the States of MA and ME. I need QSO's from the AT with HI, MT and SD States for my WAS. I will be using the Black Widow Vertical and my K1. 72, Ron de WB3AAL BB #35 www.wb3aal.com www.n3epa.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3
At 12:15 PM 27/07/07, you wrote: We should probably stop perpetuating the name band-stacking registers since the K3 has random access band memories. That's just the name everyone knows the function by since prior radios implemented it that way. 73, Ed - W0YK How about direct access band memories? Random makes it sound like when you press M1-4, you don't know what you're going to get. John k7up ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft K1, KX1, K2, K2/100 AND K3
Hello Good People..! I just HAD to add my 2p/2c worth to this one.. Speaking primarily as a guy who has been involved in radio as a Window To The Outside World..and a disabled operator In a wheelchair, where radio IS his life.. for communication, pleasure and the HIM the umpteenth Wonder Of The World..! I don't given a rat's ***..! What the ANY of the Elecraft stuff does or does'nt do..! PERIOD..! For me the description on Wayne Eric's equipment when we all firstly came across this outstanding achievement both Personally (for them as radio hams, engineers,enthusiasts .. and people who had a goal..!) it say's it ALL for me.. For a boy who uses his radio as a medium which for the most part far out seeds the normal guy on the block, and who Since the first day of his birth has had to fight to stay alive, .. and had a Boyhood Dream since the age of 11 ..to build a radio.. like those radio ham guy's have ...and talk to the world.. AND I DID IT..! TWICE.. (Elecraft K2 S/n 01432 Elecraft K2 S/n 05469).. so for me, they have fulfilled EVERY DREAM I have ever had to be as good as the next guy, be noticed in the crowd.. That.! to me is worth more than all the Money in the world - more than words can ever say.. NO Mean Feat Of Achievement I can assure you, with all the physical and neurological problems that I have had since Birth.. and that's NOT taking away ANYTHING from each and everyone of us here on the list, who undertook and ACHIEVED The very same thing... These guy's (may) (may not) be the best in their fields, ..that is NOT for us to Discuss, Ponder, or be Judge 'n Jury On.. They have played with Something Old (Ham Radio), Something Borrowed (possibly some of their idea's).. and Something New (the drive for those of use who have lost it - to GET BACK INTO Ham Radio - and that can ONLY be a good thing..they've re-kindled old spirit - in EACH and EVERYONE of us..! They've even brought the product(s) to our attention at a time where we are pushing the boundaries of electronics WORLDWIDE, with many changes going on around us, that we have no control over and incorporated some of this technology into their products.. .FOR EACH AND EVERYONE.. OF..US..! They've even possibly played with Something Blue too.. (think teeth).. Who know's what lies ahead in the coming months - Years from The Bhoys In San Aptos, they've certainly made their mark, made themselves known with a BIG Bang..! NO ONE Can doubt that.. Everyone's talkin' about Elecraft.. It's more talked about even, than the OJ Trial..! They kept their secret weapon a secret..! We had no idea, so gentlemen, what can we expect ? Yes, they listened-in on Us here on the reflector for all that time, but NON OF US..knew.. Knew what was going on behind the scenes ..we still don't (think Linears).. But one thing's for sure, ..they came thru and they came thru BIG TIME.. And as you all are aware too I'm Sure.. THEY'LL DO IT AGAIN.! So, why don't we all just sit back wait and see what the delivery date(s) bring us, and BE THANKFUL for what we have in such A professional, dedicated, hard-working, generous, LISTENING team in ALL those at Elecraft..! There will be plenty time for us to wish for more, Bigger, better, more personalised things to come.. Don't let things, get into a how-deep-are-your-pockets can-YOU-afford-this-I-CAN scenario..! For the meantime, ..Enjoy..! What has been done here, ..for EACH and EVERYONE of US, and for those who have yet To See The Light and join our illustrious family.. All Things Come To Those Who Wait.. Wayne, Eric.. Everyone down there, ..THANKYOU for all you have given us.. 72's 73's[EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy GM0NWI Elecraft K2 Fully Loaded QRP S/n 01432 Elecraft K2 Fully Loaded QRO S/n 05469 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/922 - Release Date: 27/07/2007 06:08 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Manhattan-style pad capacitance
Geoff, GM4ESD, has asked the relevant question how much shunt capacitance is present in a PCB island when cut with a core drill? I've tried to answer that question with a combination of theory and measured data, which are in close agreement. The details are at http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Prototyping.htm#Island_Pad_Prototyping. You can read the entire page, or jump to the capacitance discussion via the in-page link. The short answer to the questions is some and whether some is too much depends on a variety of things discussed in the analysis. I will say, however, that the data has caused me to reconsider using the very thin 0.029 PCB stock for work at higher frequencies, as convenient as it may be for cutting and hole punching. Jack K8ZOA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Manhattan-style pad capacitance
The link I posted has a direct jump to bookmark and might cause some browsers a problem. The main prototyping page is at http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Prototyping.htm and might be a better starting point. Jack K8ZOA Jack Smith wrote: Geoff, GM4ESD, has asked the relevant question how much shunt capacitance is present in a PCB island when cut with a core drill? I've tried to answer that question with a combination of theory and measured data, which are in close agreement. The details are at http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Prototyping.htm#Island_Pad_Prototyping. You can read the entire page, or jump to the capacitance discussion via the in-page link. The short answer to the questions is some and whether some is too much depends on a variety of things discussed in the analysis. I will say, however, that the data has caused me to reconsider using the very thin 0.029 PCB stock for work at higher frequencies, as convenient as it may be for cutting and hole punching. Jack K8ZOA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Wood bits
In a previous post I stated that I had a set of bits that were designed specifically for this purpose. I dug the kit out of my PCB toolkit and have the following information. Note: The reference to the company that made the kit yielded only one reference on Google and a post on kkn.net archives which are password protected. It seems assured that the company no longer exists: A. F. Stahler Co. PO Box 354 Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 252-4219 4 part kit consists of 4 plastic vials. 1) Part Number 156915 - a single drill mill shank dia. .200, mill end dia. .150, concentric drill dia. .028 2) Part Number 156910 - a single drill mill shank dia. .200, mill end dia. .108, concentric drill dia. .028 3) Part Number 156920 - a single drill mill shank dia. .200, mill end dia. .200, concentric drill dia. .028 4) No PN contains 3 spare diamond drills .028 dia. and about a dozen nylon hex head screws, abt #4 x 1/8 long The purpose of the nylon screws is to drill into a PCB and insert then dril thru hole in nylon to create an insulated standoff or feedthru. My recollection was that A F Stahler was or may have been a ham who did a lot of building and back in 1970s he provided the tools as a method of breadboarding. He may also have been an antenna designer with many patented designs. This may be more significant: one of the items I found in my toolkit was a similar device that is/was made by VECTOR. As may be recalled they manufactured a breadboard system that employed vector board which had a grid of holes where you could push in a small metal clip that was sometimes referred to as a flea clip. it had a couple small holes in it and could also daisy chain buss wire and component leads in a serrated slit on top. Spreading the slit slightly secured it in the vectorboard. It was solderable, but a circuit could be created by purely mechanical pressure fit. They advanced to the aid of PCB breadboarding later and supplied what I have is a VECTOR P-138 bit. _http://www.vectorelect.com/Catpdf/Page%2071.pdf_ (http://www.vectorelect.com/Catpdf/Page%2071.pdf) If you drilled a hole in a blank copperclad board there is a pilot pin on the bit that would go in the hole and by turning bit in a small drill it cuts a doughnut shaped pattern on board. The URL shows an array of tools - also check out the home page for a vast array of prototyping tools and materials. Sold by Mouser and others _http://www.vectorelect.com/_ (http://www.vectorelect.com/) Good Luck, AL WA6VNN ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3
John, The 'random' goes with the 'access' and not with 'memory'. The terms 'random access' and 'serial access' have been used since the days computers started to move away from tape I/O devices (serial access) to other devices where you could point to any data address and access it (random access). So to my computer oriented mind, random access is preferable - the fact that the word 'stack' has been glued into the fact that such memories exist is the problem when it should refer to the access method. 73, Don W3FPR John wrote: At 12:15 PM 27/07/07, you wrote: We should probably stop perpetuating the name band-stacking registers since the K3 has random access band memories. That's just the name everyone knows the function by since prior radios implemented it that way. 73, Ed - W0YK How about direct access band memories? Random makes it sound like when you press M1-4, you don't know what you're going to get. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3
My point exactly! John k7up At 01:12 PM 27/07/07, you wrote: We have too much time on our hands. Bob Serwy - N9RS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:03 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3 At 12:15 PM 27/07/07, you wrote: We should probably stop perpetuating the name band-stacking registers since the K3 has random access band memories. That's just the name everyone knows the function by since prior radios implemented it that way. 73, Ed - W0YK How about direct access band memories? Random makes it sound like when you press M1-4, you don't know what you're going to get. John k7up ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? - K3
Hi Don Gary As a person who has been sending RAM uploads to satellites since 1964, 21 years with the Air Force and 20 years working for NASA, I have somewhat of an idea of what RAM is. Had to build loads and send them real time on the fly many times in emergency situations, to ensure things like attitude control algorithms were functioning properly . I was just adding my 2 cents worth to the thread. It just seems like we get on a subject here and beat it to death. BTW, retired here and enjoying radio. Been licensed since 1958 and these Elecraft radios are about the neatest radios I've ever owned and have had the pleasure to operate. John k7up At 01:41 PM 27/07/07, you wrote: John, The 'random' goes with the 'access' and not with 'memory'. The terms 'random access' and 'serial access' have been used since the days computers started to move away from tape I/O devices (serial access) to other devices where you could point to any data address and access it (random access). So to my computer oriented mind, random access is preferable - the fact that the word 'stack' has been glued into the fact that such memories exist is the problem when it should refer to the access method. 73, Don W3FPR John wrote: At 12:15 PM 27/07/07, you wrote: We should probably stop perpetuating the name band-stacking registers since the K3 has random access band memories. That's just the name everyone knows the function by since prior radios implemented it that way. 73, Ed - W0YK How about direct access band memories? Random makes it sound like when you press M1-4, you don't know what you're going to get. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Manhattan-style pad capacitance
Geoff, GM4ESD, has asked the relevant question how much shunt capacitance is present in a PCB island when cut with a core drill? - I have found that it's useful capacitance at the right times and very problematic at other times. I've never used Manhattan style construction. Years ago I also had one of the drills that produced a round island on pc board copper and, if I wanted, simultaneously drilled a hole in the center for a lead. I used it a lot, but I *never* built a stable, free-running VFO on double sided pc board with that method because the capacitance through the board was sufficient to cause considerable instability in the oscillator's frequency. Circuit board material makes a fairly unstable capacitor dielectric, so the shunt capacitance changed with all sorts of environmental changes. For those applications single-sided pc board was the answer. With other circuits, such as low-level RF amplifiers and even some audio amplifiers, the stray capacitance introduced by the ground plane on the opposite of the board looking at the circuit pad through the board material helped ensure stability at very high frequencies. The board then acted like a low-value bypass connected to every point in the circuit, helping to discourage VHF and UHF parasitics. Manhattan construction would be FB for amplifiers and other things where the stray capacitance might help, but I'd not use that technique to build a circuit where capacitance had to be stable, such as a VFO. From forming pads with the special drill bit I subsequently went on to using a Dremel router tool to grind out copper to form traces on my boards. Works FB for simple boards. Most of my breadboarding on pc material is done using standoff insulators for all circuit points not at dc ground. Such standoffs are plentiful, cheap and tiny: 1/8 watt 10 megohm resistors. Cut one end short, bend it at right angles and solder it to the board at the right spot. Then the lead at the other end is the insulated terminal for the circuit junction. With very few circuits in solid state gear showing an impedance of more than a few hundred thousand ohms and usually much, much less, a 10 megohm resistor is as good as the best insulator in that application. Indeed, a 1 megohm resistor would be as good in most circuits. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2/K3 size
I would -NOT- want to see the K3 larger, especially if only to accomodate a band display! I've just sold an IC-756 PRO II to help cover the cost of my K3 ... never used the band display. The small size is a (minor) consideration in my choice. It will be used in our RV six months out of each year, as is/was my K2. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Wood bits
Ah, yes, thanks for the reminder. I think the 'torpedo' refers to Australia. I got this tip from a QRP manual. David G3UNA - Original Message - From: Jeremiah McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Wood bits ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
Warranty isn't an issue for me, given Elecraft's reputation. As others have said in one way or another ... there aren't many (any?) manufacturers/dealers that we'd stand in line to say, Here, please take my money and ship when you can. (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2/K3 size
The small size is a (minor) consideration in my choice. It will be used in our RV six months out of each year, as is/was my K2. I wasn't going to contribute to the noise, but with people questioning the relative importance of size I wanted to add one voice in favor of small. I work from home. I have two computers under my desk and two monitors on top. My shack is an area about 24 wide and 24 deep on one of the arms of my wrap-around desk. My K3 will be under my K2 which is under my K1 which is under my KX1. The only reason (ONLY reason) I don't own any cool vintage Collins equipment (which was made here in Cedar Rapids and is where I used to work) is because I don't have room for it. I know I'm the only one to whom size matters. We all have different reasons, I'm sure, but I'm willing to bet that size, weight, appearance, cost, and other superficial issues are at least as important, if not more important, to many of us than are receiver sensitivity, band stacking registers, roofing filters, and other features and performance issues. To make supposedly objective observations about the relative merits of any one feature or benefit of the K3 or any radio is to be myopic at best and narcissistic at worst. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K2/K3 size
What can I say? We pored over many ancient texts on archaeology, architecture, alchemistry, and the Dynamics of Mojo. We consulted Ouija. We drank strong northern California herbal teas and stout Microbrew. Under the circumstances, the evidence was irrefutable: only an enclosure exactly 4H, 10 1/2W, and 10D would optimize the index of cognitive gestalt for a multipurpose amateur transceiver. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Craig Rairdin wrote: The small size is a (minor) consideration in my choice. It will be used in our RV six months out of each year, as is/was my K2. I wasn't going to contribute to the noise, but with people questioning the relative importance of size I wanted to add one voice in favor of small. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K2/K3 size
Holy Crap, that tea must be good! Can I add to my order some of that (what Wayne is having) please? :-) [Elecraft] Re: K2/K3 size wayne burdick n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jul 27 17:55:49 EDT 2007 Previous message: [Elecraft] K2/K3 size Next message: [Elecraft] size of radio limits? Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] What can I say? We pored over many ancient texts on archaeology, architecture, alchemistry, and the Dynamics of Mojo. We consulted Ouija. We drank strong northern California herbal teas and stout Microbrew. Under the circumstances, the evidence was irrefutable: only an enclosure exactly 4H, 10 1/2W, and 10D would optimize the index of cognitive gestalt for a multipurpose amateur transceiver. 73, Wayne N6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: K2/K3 size
So it had nothing to do with the fact that it looked nice? :) Must remember to get cognitive gestalt into my next dull meeting at work! 73 Paul M1PAF -Original Message- Under the circumstances, the evidence was irrefutable: only an enclosure exactly 4H, 10 1/2W, and 10D would optimize the index of cognitive gestalt for a multipurpose amateur transceiver. 73, Wayne N6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K2/K3 size
Expelliarmus! Accio K3! Leigh/WA5ZNU N6KR wrote: What can I say? We pored over many ancient texts on archaeology, architecture, alchemistry, and the Dynamics of Mojo. We consulted Ouija ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 39, Issue 33
Ron, I plan to be atop MacDonald Pass (6,500 feet) just outside of Helena, MT with my Outbacker and my KX-1 (and ATS-3A) as BB#219. So I hope to give you MT for WAS...73, Ci Ci Jones, WU7R FISTS #10789, CC# 1853 SKCC #22, C#38 NAQCC #306 QRPARCI #12163 In a message dated 07/27/07 14:57:11 Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need QSO's from the AT with HI, MT and SD States for my WAS. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Iwatsu 75 CPR optical encoder for sale
I purchased this encoder from CUI as a replacement for the stock encoder so that it would tune faster in the 10Hz mode. The stock encoder is 25 CPR so it tunes 1Khz per revolution in 10 Hz mode. With this encoder, you will tune 3 Khz per revolution in 10 Hz mode. Will sell for $25 and that includes postage in the US. 73 Neal ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2/100 loaded station for sale
I have decided to slim down the shack in order to buy the latest and greatest, so offer my K2 for sale. It is serial nr 4490 and has the latest firmware. It has been checked and professionally aligned by Wilcox Engineering (and the report will be sent with the rig). The K2 has: - KPA100 - KDSP2 - KSB2 - K160RX - KNB2 - KAT100 in the EC2 cabinet - Elecraft Heil Mike (full size, not the hand mike) - FT100 Knob replacement - Finger dimple - Nifty guidebook. This package would sell for over $1700 but will sacrifice for $1150 (plus we split shipping costs in the US). US sales only. Thanks and 73 Neal k3nc ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K2/K3 size
In a message dated 7/27/07 5:55:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: only an enclosure exactly 4H, 10 1/2W, and 10D would optimize the index of cognitive gestalt for a multipurpose amateur transceiver. Sure beats having it be a monolithic black slab in the ratio 1:4:9. --- Four hours to bury a cat? (too obscure?) -- Seriously, though, *any* rig design is a set of compromises. Size, performance, features, price, power consumption, etc. - you can't have and eat the same cake, etc. 73 de Jim, N2EY who gave up coffee ten years ago, and now has only tea... ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] To The K3 Design and Production Team
It is amazing to me that such a small group of individuals can design and produce a product of this complexity and quality. That a handful of people did this is just . amazing. Where is their multimillion dollar research department, their HR department, their executive support? How could they possibly have accomplished this without the support of the Harvard Business School? A handful of people have risked almost everything to participate in a project in which they believed. Maybe I'm just grouchy sitting here on the backside of the clock in Shanghai but the sniping at the design by some of us who did nothing to contribute to the project is starting to get irritating. (Yeah I know, irritation can produce a pearl.) I apologize in advance for being such a curmudgeon but I would say to the outside experts:Lead, follow, or get out of the way. I salute Eric, Wayne, et al for even having the ambition to start such an undertaking. Thank you, Elecraft, you are an inspiration for more than just your radios. Ed Lambert, PE K2 1999, KX1 1492 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K2/K3 size
wayne burdick wrote: We drank strong northern California herbal teas and stout Microbrew. I didn't know Starbuck's had strong herbal teas. But then, Elecraft IS in the Bay Area, as is Barry Bonds. I was aware of the stout Microbrew however. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT100: No SWR Indication [SOLVED]
For the sake of the Archives, here's the epilogue. I replaced D1 and D2, with no change in behavior. Tracing showed that there was close to 0V at the outputs of U5 during transmit. With power off, the resistances at the inputs of U5 were about 10 ohms! The op amps must have been zapped as well. I replaced U5 and now all is well. (I also repeated the Power Calibration alignment step). Thanks for the help. 73 Jonathan Jonathan, If it was working before, it may be that the wattmeter bridge diodes in the KAT100 were zapped with a lightning surge. I suggest the first step is to obtain 2 1N5711 diodes and replace D1 and D2. While you are doing that, check the soldering/tinning on the leads of T1. If that does not restore normal operation, other tests may be done. BUT - if it has NOT worked properly before, you may have other problems. In that case, check T1 very carefully to be certain the correct leads are in the proper holes and the leads are well tinned and soldered. In the future, for your personal safety and the health of your equipment, disconnect antennas when not in use. 73, Don W3FPR Jonathan Taylor, K1RFD wrote: After working OK for several years, my KAT100 no longer indicates SWR, nor does it tune properly. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug
One thing about Vibroplex: they never figured out how to make a weight!! Their weights are small in diameter. That means they essentially make the pendulum thicker! That doesn't work worth a darn. My Vibroplex will drop to about 23 WPM with THREE Vibroplex weights loading up the pendulum. It'll drop to about 17 WPM with ONE E.F. Johnson Speed-X weight on the pendulum. The difference is that the Johnson weight is much larger in diameter, so the effective position of the weight is nearer the end of the pendulum. As we discussed earlier, simply making the pendulum slightly longer, as many have done with clips, weights, bits of tubing, etc., has had better effect than adding a row of Vibroplex weights. Maybe that's why we have the digital revolution. The Elecraft rigs shift speed regardless of the paddles. Too bad for Vibroplex. I was always a fan of Les Logan who invented the famous Speed-X bug anyway. To me, he was sort of the Elecraft of the 1930's bug business: superior product at a superior price. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Chris, My wife got the bug bug, the straight key bug, the iambic key bug... fairly recently too. She is a dedicated but fairly slow cw operator as well and keeps a 1960 vintage vibroplex, a blackwidow iambic and a modern russian knockoff of the world war II Junkers german key all tied to her K2 at the same time. She's also got 3 or 4 more bugs, mostly Vibroplex. One can buy weights for the Vibroplex to slow it down and I think she's got 2 weights on her regular key. One of the keys had a 4-40 screw hole tapped in the side of the weight. It was explained that this used to be done by some operators that installed a copper tube, squashed and drilled, to provide an extra weight as a lever that could be used to immediately change speeds by pushing the top outward or inward - without having to loosen the weight screw, position the weight and then tightening the weight screw down again. best regards, Charles wb5izd ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] To The K3 Design and Production Team
Maybe you've heard the old saying Too many Chefs spoil the Broth or words to that effect. Many years of developing highly sophisticated space hardware taught me and many in my field that nothing can compete with a compact and highly motivated development team. In fact the best ones depend on a manager who can effectively deal with cost so interference from top management is minimized. Anyone who has worked in this environment doesn't have to think long about the Elecraft Team and how they do what they do. Kudos!! Al WA6VNN ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
