[Elecraft] external soundcards for digimodes

2007-08-19 Thread Chris Gibson
Just to say many thanks for the numerous really helpful replies I received
(on- and off-reflector) to my queries about using external soundcards for
digimodes. I now know exactly what I need to do before the K3 arrives.

73 Chris, MØPSK (and just a tiny bit jealous of Tom, K3PSK)
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[Elecraft] K2 RF Board Part 1 - Setting AGC Threshold

2007-08-19 Thread JT Croteau
I am currently building K2 6233.

Setting AGC Threshold - Manual states to turn R1 until pin 5 on U2
reads 3.8V.  However, I can't get the voltage this high.  When I turn
R1, the voltage range is from 3.75V to 2.638V.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

-- 
JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 RF Board Part 1 - Setting AGC Threshold

2007-08-19 Thread DolfinDon
Hi

This voltage will depend on the tolerance of the 8 volt regulator. If the 8 
volt supply is on the low side of the tolerance then you will not be able to 
reach the 3.8 volts. However 3.75 should be close enough as this is just a 
ballpark adjustment. The final adjustment will be made later by turning the 
AGC on and off and adjusting for no change in the background noise.

Don Brown

KD5NDB




- Original Message - 
From: JT Croteau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 RF Board Part 1 - Setting AGC Threshold


 I am currently building K2 6233.

 Setting AGC Threshold - Manual states to turn R1 until pin 5 on U2
 reads 3.8V.  However, I can't get the voltage this high.  When I turn
 R1, the voltage range is from 3.75V to 2.638V.

 Anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks

 --  

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[Elecraft] K2 PLL Reference Oscillator failure

2007-08-19 Thread sbm


Hi all,
	I'm part way done building #6197, arriving at the Alignment and 
Test, Part II of the RF aasembly on page 63 (Rev G of the K2 manual).


	At step 3, I plug-in the probe as described and enter CAL FCTR to 
enable the on-board counter.  I'm getting a reading of 189.52, rapidly 
changing by around +/- 0.30.  This doesn't look anything at all like what 
I should be expecting according to step 3.


	I have pulled the assembly apart, retraced parts placement and 
connections, and aside from correcting RFC14's winding (just one turn of 
wire too many), I've not gotten any change in counter reading.  I also 
re-did the thermistor board just in case, as it was sitting a bit askew 
and almost making contact with RFC14's toroid core.  Power up and test 
yielded the same result.


	All else up to this point, including the 4MHz calibration (using a 
Sony IC-SW7600G for zero-beat), checks out fine.  Also, as posted in a 
very recent message referring to a PLL range test filaure, I have 
checked RP2, D16, D17 and R19 for proper values and orientation, as well 
as for cold solder joints.


	The silver lining in all of this is that I did try the first few 
steps of the BFO test on page 65 and that turned out perfect.


	Otherwise, I'm pretty much stuck at this point as to where to go from 
here.  Any pointers appreciated.


Thanks,

Will
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement addenda

2007-08-19 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Afternoon,
   I have not posted the ECN website in many weeks.  Here is the link: 
http://ecn.visionseer.com/  I will have more 'free time' after the end of 
August so I will put website maintenance on my to do list.  I will activate 
more of the links Pat provided when she created the site.  One of these 
computers has the raw code for the HTML, it is simply a matter of searching for 
it and the login and passwords.  
   See you in a few hours,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS
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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2007-08-19 Thread Ed Muns
SARTG WW RTTY Contest

Call: W0YK
Operator(s): W0YK
Station: W0YK

Class: SOAB HP
QTH: CA
Operating Time (hrs): 18
Radios: SO2R

Summary:
 Band  QSOs  Pts   Mults
-
   80:   66   63522
   40:  183  198045
   20:  311  351071
   15:   40   45522
   10:0 0 0
-
Total:  600  6580   160  Total Score = 1,052,800

Club: Northern California Contest Club

Comments:

This will likely be a check-log as I forgot to sign '/6'.  I realized this a
couple hours in but didn't change so I wouldn't mess up other people's logs.

Conditions met expectations ... poor.  Mainly I wanted to pound on the
Elecraft
K3 as one of the radios.  I ran a bandwidth of 250Hz which allowed the 250Hz
roofing filter to play, making the DSP's job easier.  QRM from the second
radio was much less severe in the K3 compared to the ProIII with its 15KHz
roofing filter.  (I haven't yet installed the INRAD 4-5KHz roofing filter
mod in the ProIII I used in SARTG.)

Both radios ran cool, although the ProIII fan could be heard with the
headphones off.  The K3 fans are super quiet, and while running, they were
virtually inaudible.  The K3 Dual-Tone Filter puts a 50Hz DSP filter around
each tone and provides better filtering than the ProIII Twin Peak Filter. 
However, I have yet to find an example where the K3 outperforms the ProIII
in signal copy, except for its greater immunity to large, close-in signals.

I swapped radios between the two bands I was on throughout the contest to
get a comparison.  For comparing weak signal reception, I connected the RX
Antenna Out from the K3 to the RX Antenna jack on the ProIII.  Then, by
switching the RX ANT on and off in the K3, I could alternately view the same
signal on each radio. 
They were very similar on weak signals fading below the noise floor.  It
seemed that the K3 was a bit better, but that is subjective.  The MMTTY
waterfall is narrower (each tone) with the K3 50Hz tone filters compared to
the ProIII twin peaking circuit.  Also the null between the tones is much
deeper on the K3. 
Again, I couldn't find any substantial examples where one performed better
than the other, save for IMD dynamic range.  However, the robust
configuration capability of the K3 and its built-in RTTY features make
interconnection far simpler than the ProIII or other radios.

73,
Ed - W0YK

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RE: [Elecraft] Delay between key in, key out on XV

2007-08-19 Thread Evert Bakker (PA2KW)

Hi John,

I've been struggling around as well to realize a safe and reliable setup for
the combination K2 / Transverter / Power-Amp / Pre-Amp / Coaxial relay, from
which the last three components in a separate box mounted in top of the
antenna tower.

It is no way safe to use the 8R or 8T voltage as a command line without
positive feedback from your relay as to acknowledge that it has changed
state. So I decided not to make use of that option.

I designed and built myself an interface box to which the microphone and
paddle-key are connected. By activating the PTT (mic) or the paddle, I first
generate a TX-request which is led to the sequencer. The sequencer takes
care for proper timing and switching of the coaxial relay, preamp and power
amplifier. If all has been switched over, the sequencer gives a
TX-acknowledge which is fed back to the K2 interface and together with the
request puts the PTT or paddle-key through to the K2.

I use the K2 interface as well for proper isolation of audio signals between
auxiliary peripherals like PC / audio-keyer / etc.

There is a quick  dirty way of preventing RF injection from the K2 into
your XV system. Use the (drof of) 8R voltage as an input for your sequencer.
Make the timing and switching happen, and use the feedback (TX-acknowledge)
to switch a small coaxial relay which is connected to the RF-out connector
of the K60XV. 

Coax-Rel

/--- NC -- 50 Ohm 1W
K2 K60XV RF-out ---/  
 --- NO -- to IF-in XV 

Just an additional hint:
Make sure that you use the coaxial relay at the antenna side in such a way
that it is in the TX mode when NO voltage is applied. If your cable brakes,
or the power supply fails, the power amp will always see the antenna. If you
use the relay this way, a failure is easily detected as your receiver is
dead.

73's and Good luck

Evert PA2KW






I've been searching around and I can't seem to locate any information
on whether and how much delay there is between key in (or 8R) and key
out on the XV series transverters. I need an early PTT for my
about-to-be-integrated outboard T/R relays .. I've got a external
sequencer solution, but I got to thinking that if there's at least 50
or 100 ms delay coming out of that I could get rid of the diode on the
key in connector and use the 8R to fire a driver for the T/R relay.
Anyone know?

de w1rt/john

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[Elecraft] KSB2 No Transmit Audio

2007-08-19 Thread Beth Wenzel
Hi guys, i built my k2 about a year and a half ago, I've recently decided to 
add a Ksb2, all wen together well, but... alas it doesn't work. I've checked 
all of the signal voltages, everything is ok. I've traced (with an o-scope) a 
nice looking modulated signal to the top of D3, then nothing. Checking D3 in 
circuit it looks ok (.6 ohm forward,  100k reverse) I'm assuming the sig 
should pass through to the base of Q3 (?).

Is there a circuit description that can help me with the trace?

73 AB9LZ Mark,
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[Elecraft] Narrow bandwidth ESSB?

2007-08-19 Thread Darwin, Keith
I've wondered for a while how to achieve this.  By this I mean top-notch SSB 
audio without resorting to wide bandwidth.
 
Say we limit the bandwidth to 2.8 KHz.  What sorts of things should be done to 
make the audio as good as possible? I'm thinking a signal chain like this:
 
 - Good condensor mic (probably not a communications mic)
 - Parametric EQ.
 - Compresser running 6:1 or so (RNC?)
 - Maybe a bit of overdrive (tube distortion, just a touch?)
 - BBE Sonic Maximizer to put some sparkle into things.
 
Any other ideas?  I think a lot can be done without resorting to wide 
bandwidth.  I'm interested in clear audio that cuts through without sounding 
like a contester.
 
- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
 
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[Elecraft] Appalachian Trail on Saturday . . . Canceled

2007-08-19 Thread Fred (FL)
Ron -

On your wilderness jaunts, what do you use for
POWER and ANTENNA?  

I've often thought of doing HF, on my boat
up here on the St. Lawrence River - would
be fun making some HF contacts.  Not sure
what I could string or stick up from my
19foot boat!  I suspect the river, would
make a heck of a groundplane.

I just got a VX-7F HT from yaseu, 5 watter,
guess at least I could do 6, 2, 220 and 440.

Fred, de N3CSY


   

Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play 
Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
http://sims.yahoo.com/  
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[Elecraft] K1 transmitter problem...any help appreciated.

2007-08-19 Thread Ron

Hi Guys,
As a last resort I am appealing to the Elecraft collective to 
see if I can get help with this problem.
I have a K1 that has been going great for years , but during a band filter 
change it was fired up without the ATU replaced and it fried the output 
transistor and D19.(also damaged T4 which has been re-woundand double 
checked since)
I replaced both the output transistor and D19 and it sort of  went for a 
while then decided to die on transmit completely.
I replaced the driver.no change... Then I started looking with my very 
limited quality scope. I appear to be getting drive through the Transmit 
mixer OK, and the buffer stage appears to giving me a 10x increase in drive 
level. The signal looks OK until I get to point TR1 at the junctions of D5 
and D14 where it goes into the BPF. There is not much drive appearing at 
point TR2 certainly not enough to get the driver excited enough to 
work
This problem is common to each band on two different 2 x Band boards, so I 
have to presume they are OK.
Because the level drops at point BPF on the cct diagram, I immediately 
thought there was a problem in the T-R switching circuit.The diodes tested 
OK , but to make sure I removed all diodes and they did indeed test fine, so 
did the resistances associated with them. Q4 appeared to be doing it's job 
OK but I swapped it out for a new onereplaced all the diodes. OP1 still 
showed on transmitnothing on the power meter.
I then decided it might be a lack of drive earlier on so replaced Q5 
...still no changefrom memory there was about 6v being applied to the 
Drain of Q5 from the MCU.
I might be wrong, but I expected to see about the same outputs from the 
Mixer/Osc chips U7 and U8.they are pretty much the same.
The set receives just fine...another reason not to suspect the BPF's. If I 
listen to the weak signal that *is* produced, I can peak all the filters on 
it while listening to the signal on another receiver.
So...where does one look from here? What is a very basic transmitter circuit 
has me bluffed at present...luckily I have little hair left to pull out. Any 
Ideas???

Regards.Ron ZL1TW


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[Elecraft] higher sensitivity headset

2007-08-19 Thread Mike Scott
I know this subject has been addressed before but I need a refresher.

I am looking for a higher sensitivity headset for my KX1.

I am using a Sennheiser HDC451. I really like the fit but would like a bit
more audio.

These headsets are what are called supra-aural. They don't enclose my ears,
they don't stick into my ears, I really don't like earbuds. These are like
flat speakers that lay gently against my ears. These specific headphones are
noise cancelling, but this is not what I need, I almost never turn the
cancellation on.

I can't find the specs now but from memory I think the sensitivity is 107
dB. More is better.

Mike Scott

AE6WA
Tarzana, CA

Elecraft KX1
40M Inverted V
20M Dipole

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[Elecraft] Amplifier sequencing device (DX ENgineering product)

2007-08-19 Thread George
DX Engineering has a sequencer for about $150, which can provide up to 30 ms of 
delay/buffering, so as to avoid amplifier hot switching.  Anyone out there 
familiar with it or better still own one and can provide appraisal of it?
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[Elecraft] FS: KFL1-2

2007-08-19 Thread Scott Richardson

For sale: KFL1-2 + K1B30

K1 2-band filter board for 80 and 20 meters, plus 30m parts.

K1 #139 started out as a 30/20 transceiver, but became 40/30/20/15 when the 
KFL1-4 came out. I replaced 30m with 80m on the old board, but lack an 80m 
antenna so never used it.


The filter board and spare parts have been in a drawer for years and I've 
decided not to store them any longer. Give your K1 2 new bands. Several of 
these boards are on 160m (see archive).


New, unbuilt price from Elecraft = $65 + $7.50 + shipping =~$75

I'll sell postpaid to a US address for $65.

Scott N1AIA

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RE: [Elecraft] Narrow bandwidth ESSB?

2007-08-19 Thread Brett gazdzinski
I would say you want to EQ the available audio so it sounds
best for the bandwidth you have available.

You want to have as low distortion as possible, not add 
tube type distortion.

Some audio compression and limiting, and maybe a bit of noise
gate if done gently.

Berrenger makes a box that does everything, the ultra voice 
VX 2000.
It works quite well for the (low) price.

Keep in mind, you need to consider the receiver at the other end.
A fantastic sounding signal can sound bad in a narrow receiver
as it may sound bassy and stuffy.
In a wide receiver a narrow signal can sound thin and hard.

In ssb, the most nasty aspects are vox and heavy compression,
with loud blower noise in the background.

With AM, you have the carrier to quiet the frequency and can
speak normally, pauses are quiet, compression can be much
less and sound more natural.


Brett
N2DTS 

 
 I've wondered for a while how to achieve this.  By this I 
 mean top-notch SSB audio without resorting to wide bandwidth.
  
 Say we limit the bandwidth to 2.8 KHz.  What sorts of things 
 should be done to make the audio as good as possible? I'm 
 thinking a signal chain like this:
  
  - Good condensor mic (probably not a communications mic)
  - Parametric EQ.
  - Compresser running 6:1 or so (RNC?)
  - Maybe a bit of overdrive (tube distortion, just a touch?)
  - BBE Sonic Maximizer to put some sparkle into things.
  
 Any other ideas?  I think a lot can be done without resorting 
 to wide bandwidth.  I'm interested in clear audio that cuts 
 through without sounding like a contester.
  
 - Keith N1AS -
 - K2 5411.ssb.100 -
  
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RE: [Elecraft] Narrow bandwidth ESSB?

2007-08-19 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
That's an excellent suggestion, Keith. 

My K2 has a bandwidth of about 2.8 kHz. When I tune in an AM station here in
the USA (with the 160 meter option it tunes down to about 1500 KHz), the
sound in my external loudspeaker is every bit as good as most AM radios. 

A little research indicates that the effective audio bandwidth of many AM
receivers is less than 3 kHz and some might be less that 2 kHz!* And that's
a media that broadcasts music to the satisfaction of a great many listeners.


It suggests that raw bandwidth isn't the main issue facing better voice
quality on the Ham bands. Indeed we might do very well with not much more
than what we're already using. 

Looking to what the commercial operators do as the answer isn't such a
good idea. If Marconi had done what the experts knew for a fact would not
work,  he'd never have made wireless a practical reality. Of course the
experts of the day didn't realize the effect of frequency on propagation.
Hertz' experiments that proved electromagnetic waves wouldn't bend over the
horizon or around many structures were done at what today we call VHF.
Marconi worked at much lower frequencies which we now know is a much
different world. 

That's the point. Highly-paid experts know just what's so, until someone
shows them differently.  

Finding a way to improve the sound of voice on the Ham bands without
drastically increasing bandwidth is just the sort of thing that has
attracted Hams over the years! The fact that commercial interests haven't
done it only means that it hasn't been done - yet. Often it's up to Hams to
prove it can be.

After all, it was Ham experimenters who proved that SSB was practical. In
the early 50's many expert engineers said the SSB was totally impractical
and would never be useful in normal operations. The frequency tolerances and
tuning were simply too critical for it ever to be practical. 

Hams showed them differently. 

Ron AC7AC

*  http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.4031.html

-Original Message-
I've wondered for a while how to achieve this.  By this I mean top-notch
SSB audio without resorting to wide bandwidth.
 
Say we limit the bandwidth to 2.8 KHz.  What sorts of things should be done
to make the audio as good as possible? I'm thinking a signal chain like
this:
 
 - Good condensor mic (probably not a communications mic)
 - Parametric EQ.
 - Compresser running 6:1 or so (RNC?)
 - Maybe a bit of overdrive (tube distortion, just a touch?)
 - BBE Sonic Maximizer to put some sparkle into things.
 
Any other ideas?  I think a lot can be done without resorting to wide
bandwidth.  I'm interested in clear audio that cuts through without sounding
like a contester.
 
- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Narrow bandwidth ESSB?

2007-08-19 Thread John Huggins
Darwin, Keith wrote:

I've wondered for a while how to achieve this.  By this I mean top-notch SSB 
audio without resorting to wide bandwidth.
 
Say we limit the bandwidth to 2.8 KHz.  What sorts of things should be done to 
make the audio as good as possible? I'm thinking a signal chain like this:
 
 - Good condensor mic (probably not a communications mic)
 - Parametric EQ.
 - Compresser running 6:1 or so (RNC?)
 - Maybe a bit of overdrive (tube distortion, just a touch?)
  

Hmmm well I think we know what you are after with the tube overdrive. 
You seek the rounded gain curve at the tube's input limits right?  This
is the same as a form of compression so I would just stick with a real
compressor chip or device to get what you want.

It should be noted since compression deviates from perfect translation
from input to output, it is distortion... at least a form of it.  So
your view of tube distortion is an interesting one and is a good
reminder that compression should be used gingerly.

 - BBE Sonic Maximizer to put some sparkle into things.
 
Any other ideas?  I think a lot can be done without resorting to wide 
bandwidth.  I'm interested in clear audio that cuts through without sounding 
like a contester.
 
- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for August 19th 20th, 2007

2007-08-19 Thread Kevin Rock

Good Evening,
   Whew, good thing I have some pipe organ music to listen to because the  
40 meter QRN caused ringing in my ears.  The pedal tones seem to cover it  
up ;)  I have no clue how Tom can hear anything since he is in the middle  
of it mentioning S9 noise.  But, thanks to his help, we have 37 folks  
logged for today's two nets.  I just got done looking up a call.  Seems  
like Leigh has a very new amateur at his house.  Congratulations Yuki!   
Licensed for less than a month and already running CW on ECN.  Way to go!
   When we started the twenty meter net I thought it was going to be a  
slow evening.  Tom mentioned not being able to hear anyone when I passed  
control to him.  However he proceeded to rack up quite a few contacts  
before he was done.  When I signed off to make dinner for Sam and myself I  
logged it as z so the net ran for one hour.  Pretty good for the  
bottom of the sunspot cycle in the middle of summer!  I got a note from  
John, KI6WX, stating I fell off the edge about five minutes into the net.   
When he worked Tom I only heard the Missouri end of the contact.  But  
right off the bat I did get WB3AAL in Pennsylvania running QRP.  I wonder  
if my signal was gradually pushing outward as time progressed because  
AH6RE was the strongest signal I heard.  Never can tell about propagation.


   On to the lists =

   On 14050 kHz at 2300z:
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
WB3AAL - Ron - PA - K2 - 1392
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031
W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767
N0BK - Bruce - MN - K2 - 3646
AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993
VE3XL - Ric - ON - K1 - 968
W1WCG - Van - CT - K2 - 2634
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422   QNI #65
W3MC - Mike - MD - K2 - 5568
WU7R - Ci - MT - K2 - 4615   QNI #5!
AH6RE - Curt - HI - KX1 - 464
K4GT - Jim - GA - K2 - 2015  QNI #20!!
K4DGW - David - VA - K2 - 5982
VE7OM - Ralph - KX1 - 1151
NK6A - Don - CA - K2 - 1217
KI6WX - John - CA - K3 - 006
NM7N - Karl - OR - K2 - 4227
KJ7BS - Mark - AZ - K2 - 539 QNI #10!
N7KRT - Jeff - NV - K2 - 5471
W7VXS - Don - WA - ?
KT5E - Jay - CO - K2 - 5037

   On 7045.5 kHz at 0200z:
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
W1TCJ - Fred - CT - K1 - 2148
W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767QNI #40!!!
KI6LFR - Yuki - CA - K2 - 3121 Welcome to ECN and Amateur Radio!!!
K9ZTV - Kent - MO
KT5E - Jay - CO - K2 - 5037
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K2 - 5345
AA4NN - Joe - SC - K2 - 3751
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
WD4LST - Pete - FL - K2 - 5813
VE3XL - Ric - ON - K1 - 968
K5BGB - Rod - TX - K2 - 1126 QNI #15!!
K1THP - Dave - CT - K2 - 3942
N0BK - Bruce - MN - K2 - 3646
AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993

   A few years ago I had complaints from the SO about turning the motion  
lights on during the 40 meter net.  I moved the antenna so it was not so  
parallel with the sensors and fixed the problem (for the most part).   
Seems like there is another method of creating one's own QRN.  John  
mentioned running his K3 at 100 watts for the first time tonight.  While  
doing so he was getting strange behavior from his sprinkler system.  It  
turned on and off causing noises which he found disconcerting.  Kind of  
like when I first tried CW on my Icom 706.  The relays clacking on and off  
during full QSK caused me to flub a lot of characters.  I had been spoiled  
by my Aptos rig for so long I did not know any better :(  Hmmm ... I  
wonder if they will sell me a K3?


   Hopefully I made it through the above lists without error but I did  
have to guess on which rig occasionally so please be kind :)  Kent did  
mention his KX1 is out on a trip but did not take him along.  Rigs these  
days!


   Thank you very much for your continued support.  It has been great fun  
over the years.  As I mentioned earlier today I will have free time after  
the end of August.  I will apply some of it to updating the ECN website.   
I would like ot encourage all of you to think about acting as NCS some  
time in the future.  As the sunspot cycle changes we will begin to have  
more and more stations attempting to check in.  With your help we can make  
it much easier to log all who desire it.  Plus you get to chat with them  
while I log :)

   Until next week stay well,
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)





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