Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

2008-10-07 Thread Larry Phipps
OK Simon. I added support for AG$, IS, MD$, OM, RG$, RVA, RVF and RVR to 
LP-Bridge. That seems to allow HRD to work properly, at least for the 
commands that you appear to have added to the main polling routine. I 
will look through the dev reflector for further new commands that need 
to be added. I pass all your new SET commands through, so I only need to 
be concerned about new GET commands at the moment.


After a little testing, I will release this version, but I will leave 
the current version on my website as well for those who are not running 
the K3 beta firmware.


73,
Larry N8LP

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From: Simon (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Larry Phipps [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride


  

 Hi Larry,

 Here's 1989 - 
 http://mannindustries.net/hrd/public/betas/041/HRDv041b1989_Full.exe


 This implements everything available in Wayne's CAT support, as the radio 
 stays in K31 all the time I hope your bridge is no longer broken - let's 
 see.


 Simon Brown, HB9DRV
 www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

 - Original Message - 
 From: Simon (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 New kit in about 30 minutes, I'll be in K31 mode all the time (as 
 pre-1988) with the exception of the FW command where I'll send 
 K30,FW;K31;.


  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 HRD lastest beta not working with LP-Bride

2008-10-07 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)

Hi Larry,

That's it - the only commands not used in Polling are those used when you 
press the Menu button to get at all that Config stuff.


Are you on the K3 Software list? If so we can co-ordinate this kind of thing 
there, I don't expect any major updates like build 1988 / 1989 until Wayne 
gets the channel support working.


Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

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OK Simon. I added support for AG$, IS, MD$, OM, RG$, RVA, RVF and RVR to 
LP-Bridge. That seems to allow HRD to work properly, at least for the 
commands that you appear to have added to the main polling routine. I will 
look through the dev reflector for further new commands that need to be 
added. I pass all your new SET commands through, so I only need to be 
concerned about new GET commands at the moment.


After a little testing, I will release this version, but I will leave the 
current version on my website as well for those who are not running the K3 
beta firmware. 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: 60 metre coverage in UK

2008-10-07 Thread Don Wilhelm

Tom,

Yes, I recall that there is a fix in the form of a 'run-once' firmware 
routine, but I don't know what it is.  Send a query to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain a definitive answer instead of a guess.


73,
Don W3FPR

Tom Boucher wrote:
I think this subject has been covered before - so apologies for 
missing the reply:
 
The UK allocated 60 metre channels extend down to 5.2585 MHz but my K3 
will not transmit below 5.330 MHz and VFO B displays 'END'. Is there a 
fix?
 
Tom G3OLB



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RE: [Elecraft] K3: delay in ssb monitor

2008-10-07 Thread Stewart GM4AFF
Olli,
I had this problem until this weekend when I downloaded the latest firmware
(2.38). I (and others) had thought it was associated with the audio ground
and my SO2R controller, but looks like it wasn't!
73
Stewart
GM4AFF

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3: delay in ssb monitor


Hi K3 reflector,

i worked today with the K3 on SSB and i noticed a little delay between
my spech and the monitored signal. I guess this is caused by the TX-
Audio Synthy.
Is there any sugestion for the settings to get off this delay?

thanks Olli, DH2WQ


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[Elecraft] K3: 2.7 vs 2.8 Filters Audio Impressions

2008-10-07 Thread list1
I have read in the archives about the slope, bandwidth and IMD differences
in these filters.

But wondering if one is noticeably better than the other at making the LSB
and USB received audio sounding similar.  Also wondering if the transmitted
audio sounds significantly better with using one of these over the other.

If everything is about equal I'd definitely go with the cheaper 5 pole
filters.

Steve, W2MY, AAR6CX

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Strange noise

2008-10-07 Thread Lee Buller

Steve

Do you have a switching power supply?  Is there one near it?

Lee - K0WA


In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
Common Sense divine?

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, n4lq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: n4lq [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Strange noise
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:45 PM

Recently I've been hearing a strange noise. I've installed the latest FW

2.46 but I'm not sure when this started.
It's only audible from an external speaker and cannot be heard through the 
front headphone jack.
The noise is a random, pulsating tone of about 360Hz and sounds a bit like 
RTTY but only one tone. It follows the band noise. It shows up on any band, 
any frequency. With the antenna disconnected, it disappears. It can be heard 
in any mode. I can swing the manual notch across the spectrum and it 
disappears when set to about 360HZ.

Please someone check for this.
Settings:
1. Antenna connected
2. Tune to any band, any mode.
3. Do not tune in a signal.
4. Must use an external speaker plugged into rear jack.
5. Fitler opened wide.
6. Listen closley under the band noise for low pitch, pulsating tone around 
320 to 400 hz.

Let me know if you hear anything like this. Thanks.


Steve Ellington
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: Oct 10 - Nov 9 2008

2008-10-07 Thread Ken Newman

~
N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR  
October 10 - November 9, 2008

~
10-10 Day Sprint (All) ... QRP Category
Oct 10, 0001z to 2359z
Rules: http://www.ten-ten.org/rules.html
~
Worked All Britain HF Contest (Phone) ...QRP Category
Oct 11, 1200z to Oct 12, 1200z
Rules: http://wab.intermip.net/Contest%20Rules.php
~
Pennsylvania QSO Party (CW/SSB/Digital) ... QRP Category
Oct 11, 1600z to Oct 12, 0500z
Oct 12, 1300z to Oct 12, 2200z
Rules: http://www.nittany-arc.net/paqso.html
~
EU SPRINT CONTEST (CW) ... 100W category
Oct 11, 1600z to 1959z
Rules: http://www.eusprint.com/index.php?page=140lang=g
~
FISTS Fall Sprint (CW) ... QRP Category
Oct 11, 1700z to 2100z
Rules: http://www.fists.org/sprints.html
~
North American Sprint (RTTY) ... QRP Category
Oct 12, Z to 0400Z 
Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/sprintrules.php

~
SKCC Weekend Sprintathon (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category
Oct 12, z to 2359z
Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/wes/
~
NAQCC Straight Key/Bug Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
EDT: Oct 14, 8:30 PM to 10:30 PM
UTC: Oct 15, 0030Z to 0230Z
Rules: http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/contests.html
~
LZ Open 80m Sprint (CW) ... QRP Category
Oct 18, z to 0400z
Rules: http://www.lzopen.com/lzocc80/index.htm
~ 
QRP ARCI Fall QSO Party (CW) *** QRP Contest ***

Oct 18, 1200z to Oct 19, 2400z
Rules: http://www.qrparci.org
~
Worked All Germany Contest (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Oct 18, 1500z  to Oct 19, 1459z
Rules: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/xedcgr.htm
~
070 Club 160m Great Pumpkin Sprint (PSK) ... QRP Category
Oct 18, 2000 to Oct 19, 0200 (Local Time)
Rules: 
http://www.podxs070.com//contests/160m_sprint_rules08.htm

~
Illinois QSO Party (CW/PH)... QRP Category  
Oct 19, 1700z to Oct 20, 0100z

Rules: http://www.w9awe.org/ILQP.html
~
RUN FOR THE BACON (CW) *** QRP CONTEST ***
EDT: Oct 19, 9 PM to 11 PM
UTC: Oct 20, 0100z 0300z
Rules: http://fpqrp.net:80/fpqrprun.php
~
SKCC Sprint (Straight Key CW)  ... QRP Awards
Oct 22, z to 0200z
Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/sks/
~
CQ WW DX Contest (SSB)  ... QRP Category
Oct 25, z to Oct 26, 2400z
Rules: http://www.cqww.com/2008_rules_cqww.pdf
~
Ten-Ten QSO Party (CW/Digital) ... QRP Category
Oct 25, 0001z to Oct 26, 2359z
Rules: http://www.ten-ten.org/rules.html
~
MQFD Monthly Sprint (CW/PH/Digital) *** QRP Contest ***
Oct 25, 1800z to 2200z
Rules: http://w2agn.net/mqfdsprint.html
~
Zombie Shuffle (CW) *** QRP CONTEST ***
Nov 1, Local Sundown to Local Midnight (Any 4 hour period)
Rules: http://www.zianet.com/QRP/
~
HA-QRP Contest (CW - 80 Meters) *** QRP Contest***
Nov 1, z to Nov 7, 2400z
Rules: http://www.radiovilag.hu/haqrp2.htm
~
Ukrainian DX Contest (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Nov 1, 1200z to Nov 2, 1200z
Rules: http://www.ucc.zp.ua/urdxc2007rules_eng.htm
~
ARRL Sweepstakes (CW) ... QRP Category 
Nov 1, 2100z to Nov 3, 0300z

Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2008/novss.html
~
Daylight Savings Time Ends Nov 2, 0200 AM 
~

High Speed Club Contest (CW) ... QRP Category
Nov 2, 0900z to 1100z and 1500z to 1700z
Rules: http://www.dl3bzz.de/html/hscconte.html
~
Adventure Radio Spartan Sprint (CW) *** QRP Event! ***
Nov 4, 0200z to 0400z (First Monday 9 PM EST)
Info: http://arsqrp.pbwiki.com/Spartan+Sprints
~
WAE RTTY Contest ... 100W Category
Nov 8, z to Nov 9, 2359z
Rules: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/xedcwr.htm

Re: [Elecraft] K2 Transmitted Phase Noise?

2008-10-07 Thread Torsten Clay



Kenneth Silverman wrote:
 
 Do K2/100's have a known transmitted phase noise issue?   I looked at the
 reflector archives, and there was some comment by K6SE (SK) in 2005 that
 seemed to indicate there was, but the scenario seemed rather specific.
 

I used a pair of K2/100's as a SO2R pair for 5 years. I never felt that TX
phase noise was a limitation for me. I could listen quite well on other
bands except near the harmonics of the transmitter. This is at either 100W
or 1500W level. I have ICE bandpass filters and stubs and most of my
antennas have reasonable isolation.

Tor
N4OGW

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Re: [Elecraft] KX-1 vs K1 Side-tone

2008-10-07 Thread Sandy

Keith,
Don't forget the LCD illumination mod.  That is essential for dimly lit 
rooms or outside at night portable operation!


You will have a lot of fun with the K1.  Great little rig.

73,

Sandy W5TVW

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Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:40 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KX-1 vs K1 Side-tone


Thanks Don, that just about seals it for me then  - K1 (fully loaded) for 
Christmas!


73

Keith GW4OKT


-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 October 2008 10:37
To: Williams, Keith R SEIC-AL
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX-1 vs K1 Side-tone


Kieth,

The KX1 sidetone is generated by an MCU output and is sent through an RC
filter to smooth it, so the result is more sine wave-like than a square
wave (but it is not perfect).
The K1 uses a DAC output for the sidetone, so it should be more like a
real sinewave.

73,
Don W3FPR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am trying to decide on my next kit purchase, either KX1 or K1.  I
read reviews on the KX-1 indicating the side-tone is a square wave,
which I am not keen on; is the K1 side-tone the same? I really would
like a good sine wave if possible.


Keith Williams GW4OKT





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[Elecraft] Katiegram

2008-10-07 Thread Philip Leonard WVØT
Received a Katiegram last evening (10/6) for my 2nd K3.  The first one 
has been so lonely lately.


Philip
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[Elecraft] K3: 60 metre coverage in UK

2008-10-07 Thread Tom Boucher
I think this subject has been covered before - so apologies for missing the 
reply:

The UK allocated 60 metre channels extend down to 5.2585 MHz but my K3 will not 
transmit below 5.330 MHz and VFO B displays 'END'. Is there a fix?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Strange noise

2008-10-07 Thread drewko
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:45:01 -0400, Steve Ellington wrote:

Recently I've been hearing a strange noise. I've installed the latest FW 
2.46 but I'm not sure when this started.
It's only audible from an external speaker and cannot be heard through the 
front headphone jack.


Is your AFX on? I think that can produce weird results through a mono
speaker.

73,
Drew
AF2Z

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[Elecraft] Tennessee QSO Party Log Submission deadline

2008-10-07 Thread Julius Fazekas
Just a friendly reminder to anyone who played and has not submitted their log 
yet, logs are due on October 9th. We'd love to have yours!

See who takes home the generously donated Elecraft XG-1 kit!

Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/

Elecraft K2/100 #3311
Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Strange noise

2008-10-07 Thread Ken K3IU

G'morning, Steve:

I set my K3 up as you specified, listening on 20(nothing but noise at 
this hour) and hear nothing like you describe. Nothing showing up on 
Spectrogram, either.


73,
Ken K3IU
K3 #202

n4lq wrote:
Recently I've been hearing a strange noise. I've installed the latest 
FW 2.46 but I'm not sure when this started.
It's only audible from an external speaker and cannot be heard through 
the front headphone jack.
The noise is a random, pulsating tone of about 360Hz and sounds a bit 
like RTTY but only one tone. It follows the band noise. It shows up on 
any band, any frequency. With the antenna disconnected, it disappears. 
It can be heard in any mode. I can swing the manual notch across the 
spectrum and it disappears when set to about 360HZ.


Please someone check for this.
Settings:
1. Antenna connected
2. Tune to any band, any mode.
3. Do not tune in a signal.
4. Must use an external speaker plugged into rear jack.
5. Fitler opened wide.
6. Listen closley under the band noise for low pitch, pulsating tone 
around 320 to 400 hz.


Let me know if you hear anything like this. Thanks.


Steve Ellington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: 60 metre coverage in UK

2008-10-07 Thread Dave G4AON

Tom

This has cropped up before and also been discussed on the UK Elecraft 
net. For some bizarre reason not all K3 transceivers shipped to the UK 
will transmit across the UK allocation, mine from November 2007, will 
transmit from 5.150 to 5.420 MHz. As per your other reply, contact 
Elecraft support for an update.


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
---
I think this subject has been covered before - so apologies for missing 
the reply:


The UK allocated 60 metre channels extend down to 5.2585 MHz but my K3 
will not transmit below 5.330 MHz and VFO B displays 'END'. Is there a fix?


Tom G3OLB
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 : no CAT mode change (was Split Operation)

2008-10-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

nothing to do with split
I see this problem with MacLoggerDX - if the mode of the band to which  
I'm tuning the K3 is different, invariably, I need to make it tune  
twice, so the mode gets set. However, if the mode of the band is  
correct, everything is ok.
Don, the author of MacLoggerDX tells me he sends a mode change, a  
frequency change and then a mode change again, but the K3 doesn't  
appear to see it. using 2.45 (but others did so too)


Any ideas, those that write interface software?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

On 5 Oct 2008, at 21:54, Bill NY9H wrote:


when clicking on a DX4WIN spot,  I now need to click twice...
once for the freq and a second time if the mode is different


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[Elecraft] K3: Strange Noise

2008-10-07 Thread Mike

Nothing similar here on #0215 with FW 2.38/1.90 Steve.

73 de Mike, zl1mh.
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 : no CAT mode change (was Split Operation)

2008-10-07 Thread Julian, G4ILO



David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
 
 nothing to do with split
 I see this problem with MacLoggerDX - if the mode of the band to which  
 I'm tuning the K3 is different, invariably, I need to make it tune  
 twice, so the mode gets set. However, if the mode of the band is  
 correct, everything is ok.
 Don, the author of MacLoggerDX tells me he sends a mode change, a  
 frequency change and then a mode change again, but the K3 doesn't  
 appear to see it. using 2.45 (but others did so too)
 
 Any ideas, those that write interface software?
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
 
 
I remember having this trouble early on in the development of KComm. I seem
to remember what I did was send the frequency change, wait a bit and then
send the mode change. The K3 seems to perform some commands asynchronously,
i.e. it goes on to the next command before the prevoius one has been fully
executed. The problem you are seeing is probably that the mode change is
being sent before the K3 has recalled the last mode used on that band, so it
is being overridden.

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Re: [Elecraft] k3 : no CAT mode change (was Split Operation)

2008-10-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

Thanks Julian, what the length of the delay?
I assume that’s how you fixed it?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 7 Oct 2008, at 18:16, Julian, G4ILO wrote:





David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:


nothing to do with split
I see this problem with MacLoggerDX - if the mode of the band to  
which

I'm tuning the K3 is different, invariably, I need to make it tune
twice, so the mode gets set. However, if the mode of the band is
correct, everything is ok.
Don, the author of MacLoggerDX tells me he sends a mode change, a
frequency change and then a mode change again, but the K3 doesn't
appear to see it. using 2.45 (but others did so too)

Any ideas, those that write interface software?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174


I remember having this trouble early on in the development of KComm.  
I seem
to remember what I did was send the frequency change, wait a bit and  
then
send the mode change. The K3 seems to perform some commands  
asynchronously,
i.e. it goes on to the next command before the prevoius one has been  
fully
executed. The problem you are seeing is probably that the mode  
change is
being sent before the K3 has recalled the last mode used on that  
band, so it

is being overridden.


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[Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?

2008-10-07 Thread James Young

Thanks, in advance for your help! I apologize if this question hasbeen asked 
before, but here goes.What would be the least expensive initial configuration 
for a new(factory assembled) K3? My operating preference is SSB, but I may 
trysome of the digital modes at some point.I can do without the general 
coverate receive feature, but I'm not sureabout the need for the second 
receiver for the K3. Also, will thestock filters (including the roofing filter) 
be good for awhile? Whatother options should I consider and would you recommend 
any of the K3mods that have been produced? Can the other options be easily 
added inthe future?Again, thank you for your advice.Very 73,Jim K9RII
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 : no CAT mode change (was Split Operation)

2008-10-07 Thread Julian, G4ILO



David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
 
 Thanks Julian, what the length of the delay?
 
200ms.

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[Elecraft] AGC behaviour redux

2008-10-07 Thread Monty Shultes
I solved the problem originally described below by installing a PCI Express 
serial port card in my PC.  They are expensive, but all the noise is gone.  (PC 
has No PCI slots)  Thanks to all who responded.

Monty K2DLJ

I have very high white noise in my K3 on 75 meters when connected to the 
serial port computer interface. Removing this connection greatly reduces the 
noise.  If you use HRD, LP-BRIDGE, or any control software, you can also 
hear a pulsing noise related to polling the K3 over the serial port.  I 
believe this can be lessened, but have not tried as yet.  Here in Florida, 
USA, the level of thunder storms creates a naturally high noise level in the 
summer, but the effects described above are clearly noticeable.  I use the 
Elecraft KUSB as serial interface.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?

2008-10-07 Thread Lyle Johnson

Hello James!


What would be the least expensive initial configuration for a new
(factory assembled) K3? My operating preference is SSB, but I may try
some of the digital modes at some point.


Either the basic 10W unit, or the basic 100W unit will get you on the 
air. Just add an antenna, power supply and microphone :-)


If your budget is tight, you might want to seriously consider the kit 
option.  It is a no-soldering kit.  Much like building a computer, you 
need a screwdriver and not much else.  A dummy load is very useful for 
getting the transmitter power calibration done.  You can buy a used 
dummy load, or even a new one, for much less than the difference in cost 
between the kit and the assembled unit.


If you already have an antenna tuner, then that's all you need. 
Otherwise, you might consider the K3's internal ATU.



...Can the other options be easily added in the future?


All options can be added at a future date.  An advantage of the kit is 
that you know how it goes together -- and comes apart -- so you have 
added confidence for adding options at a later date as your preferences, 
needs and budget allows.


Also, note that the K3 manual, and manuals for the various options, are 
all available for download and review on our website.


73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?

2008-10-07 Thread Monty Shultes
The Base K3 comes fully equipped to do what you wish at 10 watts power.  Opt 
for the 100-watt version if you need the power.  The included roofing filter 
will work on all modes for reception; if you want to transmit AM or FM, you 
will need the corresponding AM/FM roofing filter.  All other transmit modes can 
use the stock 2.7 khz filter.  All options can be retrofitted to a K3 in the 
field by the user.The second receiver is not needed for regular operation.

Monty K2DLJ

Thanks, in advance for your help! I apologize if this question has
been asked before, but here goes.

What would be the least expensive initial configuration for a new
(factory assembled) K3? My operating preference is SSB, but I may try
some of the digital modes at some point.

I can do without the general coverate receive feature, but I'm not sure
about the need for the second receiver for the K3. Also, will the
stock filters (including the roofing filter) be good for awhile? What
other options should I consider and would you recommend any of the K3
mods that have been produced? Can the other options be easily added in
the future?

Again, thank you for your advice.
Very 73,
Jim K9RII
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?

2008-10-07 Thread Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM



James Young wrote:

Thanks, in advance for your help! I apologize if this question has
been asked before, but here goes.

What would be the least expensive initial configuration for a new
(factory assembled) K3? My operating preference is SSB, but I may try
some of the digital modes at some point.


I'd say a stock K3/100 would be a great start.



I can do without the general coverate receive feature, but I'm not sure
about the need for the second receiver for the K3.


If you had a real need for the second receiver, you would know it. It's
used in specific situations in contesting - like when you're working
JA's split, but wanting to listen on your own transmit frequency as well
as theirs, or search'n'pouncing and running at the same time.



Also, will the  stock filters (including the roofing filter) be good for awhile?


Yes, I would expect so... unless you want to do AM or FM.



What other options should I consider


A hand mic, if you don't have something ready.

The USB adapter, if you don't have an old-skool serial port on the
computer you'll be using for digital modes.

Maybe the ATU, if you don't have something already.

Maybe the transverter interface, if you think you might want to get
a transverter for the high-bands later, or for the IF output to
something like an LP-PAN.

The DVR might be worth considering too, but it's not in production yet
anyway.



and would you recommend any of the K3 mods that have been produced?


Probably not for a beginner, but I haven't really studied them.



Can the other options be easily added in the future?


I believe some disassembly is required for some of the options.

~Iain

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?

2008-10-07 Thread Don Wilhelm

James,

You can order the basic K3/10 and it will do all modes.  All the options 
can be added later, so you can get your feet wet with the basic K3 while 
deciding what else you will need for your operating preferences.  The 
stock filter will work just fine as long as you are not into working on 
a crowded band under extreme conditions such as weak signal DXing or 
heavy contesting..


73,
Don W3FPR

James Young wrote:

Thanks, in advance for your help! I apologize if this question has
been asked before, but here goes.

What would be the least expensive initial configuration for a new
(factory assembled) K3? My operating preference is SSB, but I may try
some of the digital modes at some point.

I can do without the general coverate receive feature, but I'm not sure
about the need for the second receiver for the K3. Also, will the
stock filters (including the roofing filter) be good for awhile? What
other options should I consider and would you recommend any of the K3
mods that have been produced? Can the other options be easily added in
the future?

Again, thank you for your advice.
Very 73,
Jim K9RII


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?

2008-10-07 Thread John Buck

Hi James,

The basic K3 with no options is a fantastic value.

You will save a couple hundred dollars by assembling it your self.  No 
electronic assembly, just a lot of screws.  The mantra is read the 
assembly manual, and follow the manual exactly.  Elecraft manuals are 
far better than others I have encountered including Heathkit.
Count on spending at least 9 hours on the assembly and setup.  Even near 
total klutzes have succeeded.  Again, follow each step exactly to avoid 
problems.  Options are easy to add later but may consume some time with 
quite a few screws.


Unless you are into QRP on SSB you will want the 100 watt unit.  SSB QRP 
is really on my too hard pile.  With 100 watts and patience, I can 
usually break the dx station pile-ups.


The Second Receiver in not needed unless you are into dx pileups and 
really want to tune a second receiver to hear where the off frequency 
station is transmitting.  You can do this using the a/b or REV button on 
the single receiver although it is a bit more work.
I have the second receiver and perhaps would not have ordered it if I 
had played with LP-PAN and the computer first.  I did install the module 
with the IF port so I could have a interface to the IF for the LP-Pan 
and a separate RX antenna.  Check it out.  There is also at least one 
cheap (20 or $30) DSP radio kit that can support the available free 
software for panadapter use with a computer and a good sound card.  The 
LP pan has internal filter and HI Z buffer included that might need to 
be added for best performance of the low end unit. 

You definitely do not need additional roofing filters beyond the stock 
filter.  Remember that the dsp sets the actual bandwidth with greater 
than 100 db dynamic range inside the roofing filter.   They are easy to 
add later if you decide you want one or more.


If you can squeeze it into the budget and intend to use a variety of 
antennas you will want the excellent internal antenna tuner.  If you 
have an external tuner already you can use that for now.


So that is it.  Basic K3-100 with optional tuner.  Basic K3-100 
performance beats just about everything on the market.  As a matter of 
fact, I do not know anything that outperforms the receiver.  And the 
compression in the transmitter helps the 100 watts sound bigger without 
distortion when adjusted properly.


Make sure you have a usable microphone, Elecraft provides capability to 
interface with a variety of microphones, both biased and dynamic, with 
excellent results.  If you have something to try, do not buy another one 
yet. The internal monitor (using Headphones) allows you to adjust the 
transmit chain in test mode until it sounds right before going on the 
air.  I use an inexpensive headset most of the time.  The VOX is so 
smooth that I am not tempted to use a separate ptt switch.


You will want to plug in a stereo speaker set to get the benefit of the 
AFX effects capability.  Again not necessary immediately.


You will want a computer preferably PC with a serial output to connect 
to the K3 for firmware updates.  If your computer has USB and no RS-232 
output ports you will need
the USB to RS-232 adapter.  I suggest getting the one they sell.  Not 
all are created equal.
There is also an update program available for the Apple OS-X.  I was 
unsuccessful using it on a friend's very old apple with an early version 
of OS-X.  I was told that Apple had said that this computer was obsolete 
and could not be updated to current OS-X versions.


The Serial port performs very well with a variety of computer logging 
programs and LP-Pan I mentioned before.  If you do not have a suitable 
computer find a friend who will assist you in updating the K3 firmware.  
It is great now but continues to improve rapidly.
Update as soon as you get it assembled far enough to do so and you will 
avoid older version issues that have already been fixed.


I hope this helps.  I have had my K3 for 10 months now and end up 
smiling every time I use it.  No other radio in my 50+ years of ham 
radio has had that effect.  There is also no other radio that I 
recommend to serious new hams if they can bite the bullet for a one time 
investment.  If you order, no charge is made until shipping time.


That said, antennas are even more important than the perfect radio.  The 
two together are awesome even in our current no sunspot condition.  The 
perfect radio does very little without decent antenna.


Aloha,
John KH7T, K3 #125




James Young wrote:

Thanks, in advance for your help! I apologize if this question has
been asked before, but here goes.

What would be the least expensive initial configuration for a new
(factory assembled) K3? My operating preference is SSB, but I may try
some of the digital modes at some point.

I can do without the general coverate receive feature, but I'm not sure
about the need for the second receiver for the K3. Also, will the
stock filters (including the roofing filter) be good for 

Re: [Elecraft] k3 : no CAT mode change (was Split Operation)

2008-10-07 Thread Kok Chen


On Oct 7, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Julian, G4ILO wrote:

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:


Thanks Julian, what the length of the delay?


200ms.


For what its worth, I just wrote a quick test.

Environment


K3 FW 2.23
Computer: PowerMac 2x2.3 GHz, Mac OS X 10.5.3
Serial Port: Keyspan High Speed USB adapter, 4800 baud
Software: homebrew test, with GET and SET running on different threads
termios:
  input flags: (ICANON | ECHO | ECHOE | ISIG)
  output flags: ~OPOST
  VMIN = 0, VMAX = 255

Test sequence
-

1) manually set VFO A to 7070, DATA mode (as a reference point)
2) manually changed A to 14195, USB mode
3) sent CAT to the K3 with the following two commands

[ self set:FA7067610; ] ;   
[ self set:MD3; ] ;

Result: rig is properly set to 7067.61 CW.
---

The time-stamped log shows:

2008-10-07 13:34:38.912 K3 Test[42025:10b] [SET] FA7067610;
2008-10-07 13:34:38.913 K3 Test[42025:10b] [SET] MD3;
2008-10-07 13:34:39.824 K3 Test[42025:3303] [GOT] IF7067610
2008-10-07 13:34:39.864 K3 Test[42025:3303] [GOT]   -00 000300
2008-10-07 13:34:39.904 K3 Test[42025:3303] [GOT] 0001 ;IF7067
2008-10-07 13:34:39.943 K3 Test[42025:3303] [GOT] 610 -00
2008-10-07 13:34:39.977 K3 Test[42025:3303] [GOT] 000301 ;

The rig was initially set to AI1, so I see all changes echoed back in  
the form of IF packets.


I'd sent the MD command right after the FA command without checking  
for status since a separate thread is used to read the returned IF  
packets.  The read thread in this case received the IF packet after a  
little over 910 ms.  (Lots of relay clicking.)  I have seen an FA  
response come back as early as 73 ms after sending the command if it  
is within the same band.


I was hoping to find out what the FA to MD delay needs to be, but  
apparently none is needed in my test (I repeated it many times,  
without a failure).  I tried adding 10ms and 50ms worth of delay  
between the FA and MD commands, and the extra delays didn't hurt,  
either.


Please note that I have bypassed the K3 ATU.  That might change the  
results, or it might not :-).


73
Chen, W7AY


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?

2008-10-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Sorry Don ... 

 You can order the basic K3/10 and it will do all modes.

Not quite.  If you want FM transmit/receive you must add 
the KFL3B-FM (FM Filter).  If you want AM transmit you must 
add the KFL3B-6K (6 KHz filter).  AM receive is possible 
with significantly restricted fidelity using the stock 
SSB filter. 



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
 Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:43 PM
 To: James Young
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?
 
 
 James,
 
 You can order the basic K3/10 and it will do all modes.  All 
 the options 
 can be added later, so you can get your feet wet with the 
 basic K3 while 
 deciding what else you will need for your operating preferences.  The 
 stock filter will work just fine as long as you are not into 
 working on 
 a crowded band under extreme conditions such as weak signal DXing or 
 heavy contesting..
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 James Young wrote:
  Thanks, in advance for your help! I apologize if this question has 
  been asked before, but here goes.
 
  What would be the least expensive initial configuration for a new 
  (factory assembled) K3? My operating preference is SSB, but 
 I may try 
  some of the digital modes at some point.
 
  I can do without the general coverate receive feature, but I'm not 
  sure about the need for the second receiver for the K3. 
 Also, will the 
  stock filters (including the roofing filter) be good for 
 awhile? What 
  other options should I consider and would you recommend any 
 of the K3 
  mods that have been produced? Can the other options be 
 easily added in 
  the future?
 
  Again, thank you for your advice.
  Very 73,
  Jim K9RII
 
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[Elecraft] K3 #1879 - ordered June 23rd

2008-10-07 Thread Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM


Brown truck just dropped a box on my doorstep. Kit ordered June 23rd,
shipped UPS ground yesterday. Nice to be in W6-land, except having to
pay sales-tax :/

Now the fun starts :)

~Iain


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[Elecraft] K2 PLL range test SN 05233

2008-10-07 Thread kf4pob

I am at the end of part II and have started my alignment procedures. When I got 
to CAL FCTR the frequency was 12597.91 with a little fluctuation in the .91? 
The next step was to the PLL reference oscillator range test. When pushing the 
Band+ or Band- I get no frequency change at all.? I performed the following 
voltage test with the rig set on 40 meters.
U6??? lead 1?? 7.6 vdc U5?? Lead 1?? 4.9 vdc RP3?? Lead?? 1 
7.6 vdc
?? 2?? 4.1 vdc??? 2?? 5.0 
vdc2 4.1 vdc
???3???4.1 vdc??? 3?? 5.0 
vdc??? 3 4.1 vdc
???4???0.0 vdc??? 4?? 4.9 
vdc??? 4 0.0 vdc
?? 5?? 4.1 vdc??? 5???0.0 
vdc??? 5 0.0 vdc
???6?? .67 vdc??? 6?? 2.0 
vdc??? 6 4.2 vdc
?? 7?? 8.3 vdc??? 7?? 4.1 
vdc??? 7 4.2 vdc
?? 8?? 8.3 vdc8?? 4.1 
vdc8 8.3 vdc

One thing I did notice that before I pushed any of the band buttons the bar 
graph was on +20.
When I hit Band + or Band - the bar dropped down one led. I don't know if this 
indicates or points to the problem. I checked and rechecked my soldering and it 
looks ok.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
73
Dan 
af4lb
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RE: [Elecraft] K3: 60 metre coverage in UK

2008-10-07 Thread Peter Howson
Tom
 
Current K3s shipped to the UK appear to be set to US band limits. In order to
transmit on the UK 60 metre channels you need to send a request to Garry --
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- and give him your serial no.
 
You will receive a quick reply and a small programme. Install it on your PC.
This programme removes ALL band limits, whilst enabling all 60 metre channels it
does allow you to transmit, subject to the band pass filters, out of band. The
programme can also be used to reinstate the band limits. There is still one
restriction left, high power can not be used within the CB allocation. Also I
understand that the current firmware disables transmitting between 7.5 to 9.0
MHz at high power so that the 8.125 MHz IF trap on the KAT3 and KANT3 is not
damaged.
 
Wayne, can I suggest that you consider a mod to this programme that will allow
Region 1 band limits to be set and some way of setting the 60 metre channels
country by country.
 
73
Peter
GM8GAX
 

 
 

I think this subject has been covered before - so apologies for missing the
reply:
 
The UK allocated 60 metre channels extend down to 5.2585 MHz but my K3 will not
transmit below 5.330 MHz and VFO B displays 'END'. Is there a fix?
 
Tom G3OLB

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 PLL range test SN 05233

2008-10-07 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dan,

You do have a problem there somewhere.   The initial frequency is much 
higher than expected, so check L31, C84, C85, D16 and D17 as well as the 
soldering on RP2 and R19 before anything else.  Be certain D16 and D17 
are the proper type and are oriented correctly.


After that, if the problem is not corrected, we have to investigate to 
find the source. Start at the beginning of the analog portion for the 
PLL frequency control and make the following measurements.
Set the menu to CAL FCTR and monitor the voltage at U5 pin 7 while 
tapping the BAND+ and BAND- buttons alternately.  The voltage should 
change from about 4 volts to about zero volts.  If that happens, the 
digital portion is doing its job, so move on to the next point.  But if 
you get no change, stop because further measurements of the analog 
signals is futile until you get a voltage swing at U5-7.


If all was well, check the next point, U6 pin 1 which should swing from 
about 8 volts to about zero volts.
If all was good so far, check for a voltage swing at RP2 pin 2 or pin 
4.  It should be similar to that at U6 pin 1.
Then if all that was good, check at the cathode of D16 and the cathode 
of D17.  Again, the voltage swing should be similar to that at U6 pin 1.


If the DC voltages are behaving as expected in the tests above when 
BAND+ and BAND- are tapped, then there is something wrong with the PLL 
crystal, L31, C84, or C85 - recheck those very carefully.


Let us know what you find.  If you are familiar with schematics, you may 
want to follow along at those points on the left side of RF Board 
schematic sheet 1.  The PLL Reference oscillator is nothing but a VXO 
circuit tuned by the varactors D16 and D17.


Note, the LED bargraph indication has nothing to do with this problem, 
so ignore that, and focus on the points I mentioned.


73,
Don W3FPR

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I am at the end of part II and have started my alignment procedures. 
When I got to CAL FCTR the frequency was 12597.91 with a little 
fluctuation in the .91  The next step was to the PLL reference 
oscillator range test. When pushing the Band+ or Band- I get no 
frequency change at all.  I performed the following voltage test with 
the rig set on 40 meters.
U6lead 1   7.6 vdc U5   Lead 1   4.9 vdc RP3   
Lead   1 7.6 vdc
   2   4.1 vdc2   5.0 
vdc2 4.1 vdc
   3   4.1 vdc3   5.0 
vdc3 4.1 vdc
   4   0.0 vdc4   4.9 
vdc4 0.0 vdc
   5   4.1 vdc5   0.0 
vdc5 0.0 vdc
   6   .67 vdc6   2.0 
vdc6 4.2 vdc
   7   8.3 vdc7   4.1 
vdc7 4.2 vdc
   8   8.3 vdc8   4.1 
vdc8 8.3 vdc


One thing I did notice that before I pushed any of the band buttons 
the bar graph was on +20.
When I hit Band + or Band - the bar dropped down one led. I don't know 
if this indicates or points to the problem. I checked and rechecked my 
soldering and it looks ok.

Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
73
Dan
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?

2008-10-07 Thread Rob May

Just to add my voice to the choir, go for the K3/100 kit with the stock filter. 
 If the budget allows, the KAT3 antenna tuner is the best I've used.  If for 
some reason you are not happy with it after a couple of months (impossible!), 
you can sell it for what you have in or even a little more since you added some 
sweat equity building it.
Rob
NV5E

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?








Thanks, in advance for your help! I apologize if this question has
been asked before, but here goes.

What would be the least expensive initial configuration for a new
(factory assembled) K3? My operating preference is SSB, but I may try
some of the digital modes at some point.

I can do without the general coverate receive feature, but I'm not sure
about the need for the second receiver for the K3. Also, will the
stock filters (including the roofing filter) be good for awhile? What
other options should I consider and would you recommend any of the K3
mods that have been produced? Can the other options be easily added in
the future?

Again, thank you for your advice.
Very 73,
Jim K9RII

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?

2008-10-07 Thread Rob May

Just to add my voice to the choir, go for the K3/100 kit with the stock filter. 
 If the budget allows, the KAT3 antenna tuner is the best I've used.  If for 
some reason you are not happy with it after a couple of months (impossible!), 
you can sell it for what you have in or even a little more since you added some 
sweat equity building it.
Rob
NV5E

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:09:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Initial Configuration?








Thanks, in advance for your help! I apologize if this question has
been asked before, but here goes.

What would be the least expensive initial configuration for a new
(factory assembled) K3? My operating preference is SSB, but I may try
some of the digital modes at some point.

I can do without the general coverate receive feature, but I'm not sure
about the need for the second receiver for the K3. Also, will the
stock filters (including the roofing filter) be good for awhile? What
other options should I consider and would you recommend any of the K3
mods that have been produced? Can the other options be easily added in
the future?

Again, thank you for your advice.
Very 73,
Jim K9RII

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[Elecraft] K3 channel hopping erratum

2008-10-07 Thread Joe Planisky
I recently tried setting up my K3 for channel hopping on 60M and  
realized that there is an error in the owner's manual (rev D1).  On  
page 39, in the right hand column in the paragraph that begins To set  
up channel hopping, the 2nd and 5th steps say to tap MV.  I believe  
it should say to tap VM.


I also have a suggestion.  When in 'channel hopping' mode, it might be  
nice to momentarily display the memory number and text label for a few  
seconds in the VFO B area when changing channels.


73
--
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[Elecraft] K3 VFO rate in channel hopping mode

2008-10-07 Thread Joe Planisky

Sorry, forgot to mention this in my previous post.

It would also be nice if the VFO A rate were reduced in channel  
hopping mode.  With the default setup, it seems like a single encoder  
count corresponds to one channel, which means the slightest touch of  
the VFO A knob changes channels.


73
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[Elecraft] Noise blanking

2008-10-07 Thread Gary Smith
Curious how the E3 is as rergards power line QRM. I have a Corsair II 
and an Omni V. Both hear the noise but the Corsair does a better job 
of eliminating the power line QRM with it's resident noise blanker. 
Both are 20 year old radios although the older Corsair has a better 
noise blanker.

After setting up a receive antenna for the low bands and finding I'm 
still dealing with the noise, I'm interested in hearing how the K3 
noise blanker deals with QRM.

Thanks

Gary
KA1J
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