[Elecraft] Firmware final?

2012-06-26 Thread Wolfgang -DK9VZ-
Hi

current beta firmware 4.51 did show great improvements in WPX CW contest.
When will it be final?
or is there any issue that will be added/changed in the final version?

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[Elecraft] KX3 Utility Memory Editor

2012-06-26 Thread Edward R. Cole
I believe this has been asked before:

Is the K3 Utility usable with the KX3; is the k3 memory editor usable 
with the KX3?


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Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Suggestions

2012-06-26 Thread WILLIS COOKE
The two levers are independent on an iambic paddle so that you can close either 
contact or both at one time by squeezing.  A Bug, such as the Original has a 
single lever that allows you to close either contact, but not both at the same 
time.  With an iambic keyer if you close both contacts it will alternate dits 
and dahs with the first element determined by which contact closes first.  
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart


- Original Message -
From: Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com
To: Randy Moore wrmoor...@gmail.com
Cc: Ed G ed.g...@comcast.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Suggestions

So, a question...

With the dual levers of a single lever (non-iambic) SP2 paddle, when you press 
one paddle, does the opposite paddle move in concert or is it actually 
disconnected from the lever action of the other paddle.  In other words, do the 
paddles swing like an old Vibroplex Original (which is also sitting on my desk) 
or like an iambic although without iambic keying.

phil, K7PEH


On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Randy Moore wrote:

 I have an N0SA SP1, predecessor to the current SP2, both single lever 
 paddles. I love the way it operates and looks. Excellent workmanship! Its 
 really pretty small. Not sure what's different between my SP1 and the newer 
 SP2.  These single lever paddles won't do iambic, which I never could master. 
 The two finger pieces give good spacing for thumb and forefinger, but they 
 are attached to the same lever. 
 
 The paddle was a gift from my YF on my 50th anniversary as a ham :-)
 
 73,
 Randy, KS4L
 
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:
 
 These look nice -- does anyone here own one?  I am probably weak on 
 understanding the terminology though.  Does single-lever imply that it is 
 not an iambic squeeze type paddle.  I noticed that the single-lever version 
 appears to have two levers but guessing that these do not offer the Squeeze 
 feature (which by the way I have never really learned to use).
 
 phil, K7PEH
 
 
 On Jun 25, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Ed G wrote:
 
 Check out Larry's paddles at:
 http://n0sa.com/
 Beautiful machine work with highly efficient low-mass arms; a real bargain
 for the price he charges.  There is also a single-lever version available. 
 --Ed--
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Suggestions

2012-06-26 Thread Randy Moore
Phil,

On the SP1/2, there is only one lever, and both finger pieces are 
attached to it.  The lever and the two finger pieces move as one.

73,
Randy, KS4L

On 6/26/2012 12:12 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 So, a question...

 With the dual levers of a single lever (non-iambic) SP2 paddle, when you 
 press one paddle, does the opposite paddle move in concert or is it actually 
 disconnected from the lever action of the other paddle.  In other words, do 
 the paddles swing like an old Vibroplex Original (which is also sitting on my 
 desk) or like an iambic although without iambic keying.

 phil, K7PEH


 On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Randy Moore wrote:

 I have an N0SA SP1, predecessor to the current SP2, both single lever 
 paddles. I love the way it operates and looks. Excellent workmanship! Its 
 really pretty small. Not sure what's different between my SP1 and the newer 
 SP2.  These single lever paddles won't do iambic, which I never could 
 master. The two finger pieces give good spacing for thumb and forefinger, 
 but they are attached to the same lever.

 The paddle was a gift from my YF on my 50th anniversary as a ham :-)

 73,
 Randy, KS4L



 On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:

 These look nice -- does anyone here own one?  I am probably weak on 
 understanding the terminology though.  Does single-lever imply that it is 
 not an iambic squeeze type paddle.  I noticed that the single-lever version 
 appears to have two levers but guessing that these do not offer the Squeeze 
 feature (which by the way I have never really learned to use).

 phil, K7PEH


 On Jun 25, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Ed G wrote:

 Check out Larry's paddles at:
 http://n0sa.com/
 Beautiful machine work with highly efficient low-mass arms; a real bargain
 for the price he charges.  There is also a single-lever version available.
 --Ed--



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Re: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?

2012-06-26 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
I've had a lot of keys in my 48 years of hamming - and I've kept them all 
(they are on display in my living room!).  For portable use, I've used a 
Palm Paddle for several years.  Very nice, light, inexpensive and works very 
well.  I just replaced it with a Begali Traveller Light.  The Begali is 
excellant, but the trade-off is cost, weight and size.  To me the trade-off 
is worth it.  My home key is a Begali Sculpture.

Phil - AD5X 

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[Elecraft] K3 - improved tuning knob

2012-06-26 Thread Bill
I abhor spending money when it is not needed. However, I did wish to 
improve on the feel of the tuning knob. So, I went to the junk box and 
found a new unused black tuning knob tire from TenTec that fits the K3's 
stock knob perfectly.

You can see the tires (TenTec calls them trim rings) at: 
http://www.tentec.com/categories/Accessories/Trim-Rings/

I do not recall which one I have, model number wise, but it makes the 
tuning knob larger in diameter and looks like it grew there.

Thanks,

Bill W2BLC

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[Elecraft] FD generator quiet problem

2012-06-26 Thread Jim Douglass
We used the Honda generators at our FD site this year. They were so 
quiet it seemed like we were on the ac mains!
As a solution to the quite problem some others have experienced our 
club as an old 6 face ac voltage meter out of
an old power plant that we could hook up via extension cord from one of 
the generator outlets and have it at the
operating area to indicate whether or not we have ac being generated. 
Just an idea for next year.

Jim AC0E
guest op
Trojan ARC - NWØK
Colby, Kansas
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[Elecraft] QRP field day

2012-06-26 Thread Robert 'RC' Conley
I hope Jessie will forgive me for reposting his Email, but now that we
have a whole year
to plan for the next field day maybe now is the time to do this.
-
From: Jessie Oberreuter
Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:14 PM
Subject:  QRP FD
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
 We used to run FD at 100w.  Half a dozen years back, I talked the
group into trying a QRP FD, and we had mixed results.  We switched back
and forth a few times, and ultimately found that our scores didn't change,
but, in general, we enjoyed the QRP FDs more -- especially once we added
PSK31.  IMHO, operating FD QRP is actually a lot more fun b/c it's easier
to set up and tear down, easier to avoid QRMing your own operators, and,
if you traditionally use generators, it's also much quieter.  Your
contacts are worth more, and we get a kick out of operating simple radios.
 If you're considering a QRP FD, here are some further points and
suggestions for your club's consideration:

 * Running QRP is a great way to reduce the QRM from your own
operators :).

 * The solar contacts are great bonuses, and those of us with low
power radios often find ourselves running solar for most of the day.  We
have a separate set of power plugs for solar, so anyone who wants to run
it can, and we try to each make at least five rather than just making five
as a group.

 * We try to collectively earn a WAS.  Not only does this create a
group goal (rather than competing for most contacts), it also gives folks
an incentive to move on from hard to make contacts and seek out other
contact opportunities.

 * Bring outboard filters if you have 'em -- they can really make a
difference.  Try different antenna directions and orientations -- it can
make a huge difference in background noise.  Use of separate tx and rx
antennas can also offer a huge improvement in noise reduction, and adding
support for split tx/rx to your field radios can be a great club project!
Folks often think that a clear, but relatively quiet station won't hear a
QRP signal.  Don't be so sure!  It's S/N, not power, that makes the
difference :).  The more stations you can hear, the more stations you can
potentially work!

 * Don't forget the digital modes!  PSK31 has been serving us well.
Don't forget VHF!  A 6m opening can be a life changing experience!  Don't
forget local contacts on 80m.  You don't need to have a huge antenna and
you don't need to fight the QRN -- just make occasional passes to collect
locals.  Also remember that VHF isn't just 2m FM and a mag-mount.  If you
have a 6m or 2m SSB radio to spare, bring it, and scare up a beam or make
a simple quad -- your tech who would otherwise be trying to scrape up a
dozen 2m FM contacts with an HT will love you!  Remember: horizontal
polarization!

 * Be willing to work different bands.  Some folks have pet bands that
they just won't leave even when they're not having much success.  We've
also had folks actively avoid 20m SSB because it just seems like too much
of a bedlam.  Again, good filters, directional antennas, and the RF Gain
knob can make a huge difference!

 * Mentor less experienced ops -- a few simple practices can go a LONG
way towards making contacts more successful. Sometimes it's knowing how to
exchange numbers in other ways than just repeating 3A 3A (eg one, two,
three alpha), how to use attenuation, how to note when a station is clear
but too busy to hear you, move on, and try again later.  These are great
points of education for members who may have never developed such skills
because they've never needed to.

 * Leave the big shack radios in the shack :).  One of the things that
can make FD stressful is having to tear down the home station, pack it
into a hostile environment, pack it back, and then rebuild the shack.
Many of us have our shack radios and also have several field radios that
we might not otherwise consider for FD because they are lower power rigs.
If you're operating a QRP field day, you can leave the home shack intact,
and just bring your field radios which are also more accustomed to being
abused.  Our FDs used to be something of a show of force, where folks
would seemingly bring every piece of radio equipment they owned.  Now, we
try to do the opposite and typically pack complete stations in laptop and
camera bags.  Having extra field rigs in your ranks can also be great for
newer members who a) may be more afraid to bring their nice base rigs into
the field, and b) often really appreciate the opportunity to operate other
kinds of radios.

 * With smaller, low power field radios, it's much easier to pack for
camping as well as operating.  Small radios, batteries, solar chargers,
and headphones all around makes 

[Elecraft] all Elecraft FD entry

2012-06-26 Thread cloud runner
FWIW ... W5YA 3AB (QRP) was an all Elecraft K3 entry on field day this year.  
The performance broke the previous category record set by another all Elecraft 
team, K7EAR, in 2005.  The K3's performed flawlessly.

73,  Fred - KT5X
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?

2012-06-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wolfgang,

If by final you are referring to the number 4.51 - that number is 
final right now - if there are any changes made,  the number will be 
changed.

If the beta test is successful, that same version will be declared 
release level - but the code3 will be unchanged.

So, bottom line, if you are having success with 4.51, continue to use it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/26/2012 3:30 AM, Wolfgang -DK9VZ- wrote:
 Hi

 current beta firmware 4.51 did show great improvements in WPX CW contest.
 When will it be final?
 or is there any issue that will be added/changed in the final version?



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[Elecraft] [K3] Gain to KXV3 wideband IF output

2012-06-26 Thread Roger Dixon
I've finally completed my Soft Rock for use as a pan adapter.  However it is
rather deaf.

 

On investigation, my measured gain from the K3 antenna input to the KXV3
IF output (terminated in 50 ohms) is -20dB.  Looking at the K3 block/circuit
diagrams, this would appear to be on the low side.  Is this typical or do I
need to conduct an internal examination.

{Note I have not done any of the mods to increase the gain}.

 

Roger - G4BVY

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[Elecraft] K3s at W4NT

2012-06-26 Thread Gregg Marco W6IZT
This year we operated 3E using 3 K3s. The radios performed flawlessly. The
receivers are amazing. At times we had a CW and SSB station on the same band
with only occasional and minimal interference between stations. The antennas
were only separated by about 200 ft. Just short of 4200 Qs. A great time was
had by all!

73
Gregg
W6IZT

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[Elecraft] KX1 KXPD1 (was Re: CW Key suggestions ?)

2012-06-26 Thread Michael Babineau
Phil :

Where the KXPD1 is really useful is if you ever decide to operate portabl 
somewhere without a  table (i.e. sitting in a lawn chair etc).
The nice thing about the KX1 / KXPD1 combo is that you can easily use it on a 
clipboard in your lap with the rig / paddles on top. 

 I have a clipboard that is big enough to hold legal-sized paper and it makes a 
great lap-desk for portable operating, sitting
on the ground or in a camp chair . If I put a few sheets of  paper on it then I 
can just jot my notes down beside the rig and copy
 them to a proper log later.  Likewise I have used the same combo while 
operating from my car, with either a mobile antenna 
or a portable antenna adjacent to the car.  You could still use a separate 
paddle with the clipboard but it is very 
convenient to have the all-in-one package as it has a very small footprint. 

Michael VE3WMB 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Gain to KXV3 wideband IF output

2012-06-26 Thread Jack Smith
-18 dB transfer loss is typical of what I measure.

Solution involves making the mods to the FET follower and in most cases 
adding amplification between the IF output port and the Soft Rock input.

Jack K8ZOA

On 6/26/2012 9:25 AM, Roger Dixon wrote:
 I've finally completed my Soft Rock for use as a pan adapter.  However it is
 rather deaf.

   

 On investigation, my measured gain from the K3 antenna input to the KXV3
 IF output (terminated in 50 ohms) is -20dB.  Looking at the K3 block/circuit
 diagrams, this would appear to be on the low side.  Is this typical or do I
 need to conduct an internal examination.

 {Note I have not done any of the mods to increase the gain}.

   

 Roger - G4BVY

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Re: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?

2012-06-26 Thread Michael Babineau
Ron AC7AC wrote : 

My *only* complaint about the KX1 paddles is the same complaint I have about
every Elecraft rig - there's no keyer mode that lets me make my own dashes.
I would greatly enjoy a keyer mode that spits out dits automatically with
one paddle and then allows me to make dashes with the other paddle manually.
Right now, if I want to go portable with any of the rigs I must either haul
a straight key with me (bugs don't travel well) or live with the keyer. 

Ron : 

It sounds like what you need is a Palm Paddle and the integrated Code Cube 
Keyer.
The Code Cube is a custom version of the Jackson Harbour PK4 keyer and it does 
have
a Bug mode. The combination of the two would give you a very compact eBug 
that
should solve your problem. 

http://www.mtechnologies.com/palm/cc.htm

The code cube manual is here :

http://www.mtechnologies.com/palm/cc-83p_e.pdf

If you check out Menu #4 you'll see that there is a Bug Mode. 
I have one and I have tried Bug mode and it works fine. 

Michael VE3WMB 


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Memory Editor

2012-06-26 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The KX3 Utility is used with the KX3 and the K3Utility is used with the K3.

The most recent version of the K3 Frequency Memory Editor may be used for both 
K3 and KX3.  

73 de Dick, K6KR

On Jun 26, 2012, at 1:20 AM, Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:

 Is the K3 Utility usable with the KX3; is the k3 memory editor usable 
 with the KX3
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?

2012-06-26 Thread Bill Gerth
Ron,

I don't know about the K3, but my KX3 has a HAND mode which allows  
the KXPD3 paddles to function as a straight key.  Either paddle works  
as a straight key.  I use it when folks want my SKCC number for a  
straight key QSO.

73,

W4RK - Bill Gerth
Jefferson City, MO
billge...@embarqmail.com




On Jun 26, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Michael Babineau wrote:

 Ron AC7AC wrote :

 My *only* complaint about the KX1 paddles is the same complaint I  
 have about
 every Elecraft rig - there's no keyer mode that lets me make my own  
 dashes.
 I would greatly enjoy a keyer mode that spits out dits  
 automatically with
 one paddle and then allows me to make dashes with the other paddle  
 manually.
 Right now, if I want to go portable with any of the rigs I must  
 either haul
 a straight key with me (bugs don't travel well) or live with the  
 keyer.

 Ron :

 It sounds like what you need is a Palm Paddle and the integrated  
 Code Cube Keyer.
 The Code Cube is a custom version of the Jackson Harbour PK4 keyer  
 and it does have
 a Bug mode. The combination of the two would give you a very  
 compact eBug that
 should solve your problem.

 http://www.mtechnologies.com/palm/cc.htm

 The code cube manual is here :

 http://www.mtechnologies.com/palm/cc-83p_e.pdf

 If you check out Menu #4 you'll see that there is a Bug Mode.
 I have one and I have tried Bug mode and it works fine.

 Michael VE3WMB


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Re: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?

2012-06-26 Thread Michael Babineau
Bill :

It sounds like the KXPD3 could be used as a cootie key (aka Sideswiper) if 
both left and right paddles are active in HAND mode.
Cool ! 

Michael VE3WMB

P.S. In HAND mode on the KX1/K1  I think that only one side of the paddle is 
active. 

On 2012-06-26, at 10:21 AM, Bill Gerth wrote:

 Ron,
 
 I don't know about the K3, but my KX3 has a HAND mode which allows the 
 KXPD3 paddles to function as a straight key.  Either paddle works as a 
 straight key.  I use it when folks want my SKCC number for a straight key QSO.
 
 73,
 
 W4RK - Bill Gerth
 Jefferson City, MO
 billge...@embarqmail.com
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Gain to KXV3 wideband IF output

2012-06-26 Thread Roger Dixon
Thanks Jack,
I was beginning to suspect the FET but you have put my mind at rest on that
one.

Roger - G4BVY

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jack Smith
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Gain to KXV3 wideband IF output

-18 dB transfer loss is typical of what I measure.

Solution involves making the mods to the FET follower and in most cases 
adding amplification between the IF output port and the Soft Rock input.

Jack K8ZOA

On 6/26/2012 9:25 AM, Roger Dixon wrote:
 I've finally completed my Soft Rock for use as a pan adapter.  However it
is
 rather deaf.

   

 On investigation, my measured gain from the K3 antenna input to the KXV3
 IF output (terminated in 50 ohms) is -20dB.  Looking at the K3
block/circuit
 diagrams, this would appear to be on the low side.  Is this typical or do
I
 need to conduct an internal examination.

 {Note I have not done any of the mods to increase the gain}.

   

 Roger - G4BVY

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Memory Editor

2012-06-26 Thread nr4c
I looked ahead and no-one answered you. So

The KX3 has it's own Utility program.  It is too unlike a K3 to share 
the Util program.

But, the K3 memory editor works with the KX3 as well.

And I believe they share the Programming language.

Good luck, hope you enjoy yours as much as I'm enjoying mine.

...bill   nr4c

On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:20:12 -0800, Edward R. Cole wrote:
 I believe this has been asked before:

 Is the K3 Utility usable with the KX3; is the k3 memory editor usable
 with the KX3?


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Re: [Elecraft] FD generator quiet problem

2012-06-26 Thread Bob
Since the concern is that a quiet generator will run out of gas and nobody
will know (those folks using AC  = Charger = Battery = K3 setups), how
about this instead?

The EU2000 will run for more than 24 hours on an external 6 gallon tank of
gas under full load.  If you use that setup you don't have to refuel every
4 to 6 hours, which means no spilling gas, fumbling in the dark, or worries
about running out of gas during the contest.

You can use a standard portable 6-Gallon gas tank ($50 from WalMart) with a
primer hose and fuel connector for an outboard motor (like a Johnson).  You
then replace the standard Honda gas cap (the one that as the ON/OFF air
vent), with a special cap that has the mating connector for your outboard
motor on it.

As gas is drawn out of the generator tank, the vacuum it produces draws gas
from the 6-gallon tank back into the generator tank.

You fill up the Generator tank and 6-gallon tank at a gas station before
the contest, then just plug the stuff together in the field, start it up,
then turn it off when the contest is done.  Expect 24-28 hours of run time
at full load, and a couple of days at partial load.

Google Honda Generator Extended Run Gas Cap

An example of a complete assembly (tank, fittings, hose, cap) is here:
http://www.wisesales.com/bergs-6-gal-system-for-honda-etq-generac-all-power.html#.T-nNl5GDl8E

An example of the cap-only is here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-Eu2000i-GENERATOR-EXTENDED-RUN-FUEL-CAP-SYSTEM-/170855572266?pt=BI_Generatorshash=item27c7c9232a

I used a setup like the one I described for several days after we lost
power during a hurricane late last year.  Because I was only drawing a few
hundred watts (a few desk lamps and our refrigerator), it ran for 2 days
before I put more gas into the external tank, which was about six feet away
from the generator -- so I didn't even stop the generator.

73, Bob, WB4SON

(Love my Honda and K3; two things that just work right all the time)
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Suggestions - info on N0SA paddles

2012-06-26 Thread Rick Johnson


I sent Larry an email saying I would like to order the SP2 paddle
His response:


Rick
 Thank you for your interest in my paddles.
I believe my last SP paddle has just been sold. I am waiting to hear back 
from the person about the sale.
If he decides not to buy then you can have it.
 I am in the process of retiring so I am selling all the paddles I already 
have built. After that I will continue to build on a very limited basis and 
just 
list what I have for sale. No more waiting list and no custom orders. I will 
just build for fun.
73's and I will let you know what happens with the SP.
Larry Naumann
n0sa

So I guess the paddles will become difficult to get ahold of now.

73,
Rick W3BI


 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:23:00 -0500
 From: wrmoor...@gmail.com
 To: phys...@mac.com
 CC: ed.g...@comcast.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Suggestions
 
 Phil,
 
 On the SP1/2, there is only one lever, and both finger pieces are 
 attached to it.  The lever and the two finger pieces move as one.
 
 73,
 Randy, KS4L
 
 On 6/26/2012 12:12 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
  So, a question...
 
  With the dual levers of a single lever (non-iambic) SP2 paddle, when you 
  press one paddle, does the opposite paddle move in concert or is it 
  actually disconnected from the lever action of the other paddle.  In other 
  words, do the paddles swing like an old Vibroplex Original (which is also 
  sitting on my desk) or like an iambic although without iambic keying.
 
  phil, K7PEH
 
 
  On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Randy Moore wrote:
 
  I have an N0SA SP1, predecessor to the current SP2, both single lever 
  paddles. I love the way it operates and looks. Excellent workmanship! Its 
  really pretty small. Not sure what's different between my SP1 and the 
  newer SP2.  These single lever paddles won't do iambic, which I never 
  could master. The two finger pieces give good spacing for thumb and 
  forefinger, but they are attached to the same lever.
 
  The paddle was a gift from my YF on my 50th anniversary as a ham :-)
 
  73,
  Randy, KS4L
 
 
 
  On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:
 
  These look nice -- does anyone here own one?  I am probably weak on 
  understanding the terminology though.  Does single-lever imply that it is 
  not an iambic squeeze type paddle.  I noticed that the single-lever 
  version appears to have two levers but guessing that these do not offer 
  the Squeeze feature (which by the way I have never really learned to use).
 
  phil, K7PEH
 
 
  On Jun 25, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Ed G wrote:
 
  Check out Larry's paddles at:
  http://n0sa.com/
  Beautiful machine work with highly efficient low-mass arms; a real 
  bargain
  for the price he charges.  There is also a single-lever version 
  available.
  --Ed--
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Suggestions - info on N0SA paddles

2012-06-26 Thread Greg
I hope he gets it.  I have an SP2 from N0SA and love it.

73
Greg
AB7R


On 6/26/12, Rick Johnson w3bi.r...@hotmail.com wrote:


 I sent Larry an email saying I would like to order the SP2 paddle
 His response:


 Rick
  Thank you for your interest in my paddles.
 I believe my last SP paddle has just been sold. I am waiting to hear back
 from the person about the sale.
 If he decides not to buy then you can have it.
  I am in the process of retiring so I am selling all the paddles I already
 have built. After that I will continue to build on a very limited basis and
 just
 list what I have for sale. No more waiting list and no custom orders. I will

 just build for fun.
 73's and I will let you know what happens with the SP.
 Larry Naumann
 n0sa

 So I guess the paddles will become difficult to get ahold of now.

 73,
 Rick W3BI


 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:23:00 -0500
 From: wrmoor...@gmail.com
 To: phys...@mac.com
 CC: ed.g...@comcast.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Suggestions

 Phil,

 On the SP1/2, there is only one lever, and both finger pieces are
 attached to it.  The lever and the two finger pieces move as one.

 73,
 Randy, KS4L

 On 6/26/2012 12:12 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
  So, a question...
 
  With the dual levers of a single lever (non-iambic) SP2 paddle, when you
  press one paddle, does the opposite paddle move in concert or is it
  actually disconnected from the lever action of the other paddle.  In
  other words, do the paddles swing like an old Vibroplex Original (which
  is also sitting on my desk) or like an iambic although without iambic
  keying.
 
  phil, K7PEH
 
 
  On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Randy Moore wrote:
 
  I have an N0SA SP1, predecessor to the current SP2, both single lever
  paddles. I love the way it operates and looks. Excellent workmanship!
  Its really pretty small. Not sure what's different between my SP1 and
  the newer SP2.  These single lever paddles won't do iambic, which I
  never could master. The two finger pieces give good spacing for thumb
  and forefinger, but they are attached to the same lever.
 
  The paddle was a gift from my YF on my 50th anniversary as a ham :-)
 
  73,
  Randy, KS4L
 
 
 
  On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:
 
  These look nice -- does anyone here own one?  I am probably weak on
  understanding the terminology though.  Does single-lever imply that it
  is not an iambic squeeze type paddle.  I noticed that the single-lever
  version appears to have two levers but guessing that these do not
  offer the Squeeze feature (which by the way I have never really
  learned to use).
 
  phil, K7PEH
 
 
  On Jun 25, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Ed G wrote:
 
  Check out Larry's paddles at:
  http://n0sa.com/
  Beautiful machine work with highly efficient low-mass arms; a real
  bargain
  for the price he charges.  There is also a single-lever version
  available.
  --Ed--
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Key suggestions ?

2012-06-26 Thread Chip Stratton
I like the Navy flameproof 26003 for portable straight key operation.
Like the J38 it is meant to be screwed down, but I mounted mine on a
rectangle of Lexan, which gives me a fairly light and stable key with
contacts shielded from easy contamination. It also appears to be a
fairly rugged design. You can still get New Old Stock from J. Bunnell
for about $80, and used ones for less elsewhere and on ebay. It has a
nice feel, very similar to the Junkers key I use at home. One key I
don't like is the Chinese army K4.

Chip
AE5KA
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Field Day observations

2012-06-26 Thread Barry LaZar
Wayne,
 In an earlier response I indicated that that I might not have 
understood. I didn't! I was so out of it from FD that I probably made 
little sense.

 I did discover APF during some familiarization in my shack. We did 
not use it during FD as I had totally forgotten about it during the 
hectic goings on. I have rebuild my home shack and am kicking myself for 
having forgotten about this feature. During my few days of 
familiarization at home, I found APF to be quite useful. As I think 
about it, I suspect operator fatigue would have been less had it not 
been for this oversight. I suggest every CW operator who has this 
feature on his radio, whether using a KX3 or not, to use it. It really 
can clean up noisy signals. Sure wish we had you on our site.

Vy 73,
Barry
K3NDM



On 6/25/2012 3:29 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Did you find about about APF in time to use it during FD?  :)

 Wayne

 On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:50 PM, k3...@comcast.net wrote:

 I received my KX3 about a week ahead of FD. Therefore, I hadn't much 
 experience with it. We were running 2A on solar power; the other rig 
 was a K2.

 FWIW: The features in the KX3 allowed me to about double my QSO rate 
 as compared to the K2 and other rigs I have used. My general 
 impression is that the KX3 makes an ideal, or nearly so, FD radio. We 
 ran 546 Q's on these two radios. Why didn't we do better? Operator 
 fatigue. Had we had maybe three more operators we probably could have 
 made 1000 Q's. And, we were QRP!!!

 What was amusing is the comment of one of our operators. He is a QRO 
 contest op who likes to run full legal limit. He kept commenting that 
 he couldn't believe what we were doing at 5W. Oh, yes. He owns a K3.

 Wayne/Eric,
  You guys done good!! The KX3 is a keeper!

 Vy 73,
 Barry
 K3NDM

 From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 To: Phillip Shepard ph...@riousa.com
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:25:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Field Day observations

 Thanks for the report, Phillip. We had two KX3s at our FD site (K6SRA)
 with similar results.

 Regarding VFO tuning noise, did you try using RX SHFT on the affected
 band(s)? This turns out to be very effective, especially in
 combination with VFO NR. Both menu entries can be set up per-band, and
 are typically needed only the highest bands.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 On Jun 24, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Phillip Shepard wrote:

  Field Day this weekend was the first real test of my new KX3 (s/n
  268).
  Before Saturday it had only seen light picnic table use and one SOTA
  peak
  activation.  How did I like it during FD?  This is one sweet little
  radio!
  I operated somewhat casually in a search and pounce mode, with 90%
  of the
  QSOs on CW and the rest on SSB.
 

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[Elecraft] Just Placed my order for the KX3

2012-06-26 Thread Phil Townsend
Oh Boy... Oh Boy... Oh Boy... can't wait.

They said 90 days or so... just in time for a trip to Turkey.

Phil
Santa Fe, NM
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[Elecraft] Really old receivers

2012-06-26 Thread ERIC MANNING
Does anyone else remember or have a Wireless Set Nr. 19?

Built during WW2 for the Canadian Army Armoured Corps and our Soviet 
Allies [it had Russian and English markings],
it was a transceiver, weighed a lot, and I cut my teeth on one. Covered 
ALL ham bands [between 2 and 8 Mc/s].
Most repairs could be made by dropping it on a hard surface.

[Other than that, I don't have a good thing to say about the old beast. 
It reached truly new lows in performance, even for the 1940s.]

Eric
VA7DZ



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[Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter) for weak-signal CW work

2012-06-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
Both the K3 and KX3 have an APF control (audio peaking filter). APF  
can be extremely effective when you're trying to copy weak CW signals  
buried in noise.

Most DSP filters have very steep skirts; they're often referred to as  
brick-wall filters for this reason. This is the type of filtering  
associated with the WIDTH control (K3) or PBT control (KX3).

In contrast, the APF is a filter with a very narrow peak (about 30 Hz  
at the -3 dB points) and very broad skirts. The narrow peak brings up  
the signal amplitude slightly, while the broad skirts prevent noise  
from being amplified and delayed in such a way as to dominate the  
signal. The APF function used in the K3 and KX3 is a modern DSP  
reinterpretation of the hardware APF circuit found on some legacy  
transceivers, which was very effective.

On the KX3, the APF switch is labeled APF (tap), while on the K3,  
it's labeled DUAL PB (hold). The K3 actually provides two different  
special filter functions; use the DUAL PB menu entry to set up the  
switch for APF.

When you turn on APF, the DSP graphic changes to remind you of the  
nature of APF, with its narrow peak and broad skirts.

I suggest setting the passband width to about 250-300 Hz when using  
APF. The DSP graphic still shows an approximate representation of the  
width even with APF turned on.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3s at W4NT

2012-06-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
That's an unbelievable number of Q's, Gregg. You're using base 5, right?

Wayne

On Jun 26, 2012, at 6:36 AM, Gregg Marco W6IZT wrote:

 This year we operated 3E using 3 K3s. The radios performed  
 flawlessly. The
 receivers are amazing. At times we had a CW and SSB station on the  
 same band
 with only occasional and minimal interference between stations. The  
 antennas
 were only separated by about 200 ft. Just short of 4200 Qs. A great  
 time was
 had by all!

 73
 Gregg
 W6IZT

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Re: [Elecraft] K3s at W4NT

2012-06-26 Thread Ian Kahn
Wayne,

I know some of the other hams Gregg worked with at W4NT, all members of the
Southeastern DX Club, big-time contesters and DXers.  Given the group, I'm
surprised they *only* worked 4200 QSOs.  :-)

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
K3 #281, P3 #688
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team


On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 That's an unbelievable number of Q's, Gregg. You're using base 5, right?

 Wayne

 On Jun 26, 2012, at 6:36 AM, Gregg Marco W6IZT wrote:

  This year we operated 3E using 3 K3s. The radios performed
  flawlessly. The
  receivers are amazing. At times we had a CW and SSB station on the
  same band
  with only occasional and minimal interference between stations. The
  antennas
  were only separated by about 200 ft. Just short of 4200 Qs. A great
  time was
  had by all!
 
  73
  Gregg
  W6IZT
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 key-down issue

2012-06-26 Thread N4TY
Hi Tom (and others),

Don's advice fixed the key-down issue: use a stereo plug, not a mono plug.
There was some other posted advice on how to auto-detect the plug, and I'll
get into that too, many thanks!

Field Day was better with this K2, compared to my OMNI6+, in several subtle
ways.
But the biggest tangible was the remarkably lower audio noise level...less
fatigue after 24 hours.

I have to replace the headphone jack someday too

- Tyler N4TY


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter) forweak-signal CW work

2012-06-26 Thread Andrew Faber
Wayne,
I was pleased to see the APF added to the K3, though I think it is not as 
useful on radios with such good basic filtering, as compared to older 
radios.  OTOH: it's a favorite feature of my old FT1000D!
73, andy ae6y

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Burdick
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:19 AM
To: k...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter) 
forweak-signal CW work

Both the K3 and KX3 have an APF control (audio peaking filter). APF
can be extremely effective when you're trying to copy weak CW signals
buried in noise.

Most DSP filters have very steep skirts; they're often referred to as
brick-wall filters for this reason. This is the type of filtering
associated with the WIDTH control (K3) or PBT control (KX3).

In contrast, the APF is a filter with a very narrow peak (about 30 Hz
at the -3 dB points) and very broad skirts. The narrow peak brings up
the signal amplitude slightly, while the broad skirts prevent noise
from being amplified and delayed in such a way as to dominate the
signal. The APF function used in the K3 and KX3 is a modern DSP
reinterpretation of the hardware APF circuit found on some legacy
transceivers, which was very effective.

On the KX3, the APF switch is labeled APF (tap), while on the K3,
it's labeled DUAL PB (hold). The K3 actually provides two different
special filter functions; use the DUAL PB menu entry to set up the
switch for APF.

When you turn on APF, the DSP graphic changes to remind you of the
nature of APF, with its narrow peak and broad skirts.

I suggest setting the passband width to about 250-300 Hz when using
APF. The DSP graphic still shows an approximate representation of the
width even with APF turned on.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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[Elecraft] KX3 first impressions

2012-06-26 Thread Edward R. Cole
I calibrated the KXFL3 (using my XG3) last night and all went well 
(quite the involved procedure but instructions are without fault).  I 
did some listening Monday with the internal speaker and that takes 
some adjustment from what I hear using my K3 (10-inch National 
speaker from the 1950's).  Not a fair comparison.  I will probably 
either use headphones or ext speaker most of the time.  I connected 
my computer (H/K) speakers and less harsh sound.

Getting acquainted with the little radio with manual open.  Listened 
to a net on 14.290 this morning.  Haven't tested the radio with 
meters, yet.  I got to scoot up the tower before it rains again to 
fix my TR line for my 222 and 432 antennas.

Interesting way the filters switch.  Passband tuning is a bit 
different.  I had an initial antenna issue which looked like a bad 
cable on the BNC but turned out a bad exterior coax.  Auto-tuning 
looks like it is working.

Next it to pre-program the memories for my favorites (will try 
copying my K3 list).

Thanks for making the cutest ham radio!  I got lots of folks looking 
forward to my Hamfest demo 14July.

Over the 4th I will begin looking at SDR I/F control  wiring.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] Really old receivers

2012-06-26 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 12-06-26 01:57 PM, ERIC MANNING wrote:
 Does anyone else remember or have a Wireless Set Nr. 19?

I used to have a Nr. 19 set complete with the English and Russian writing on 
it. I had it on a sturdy table in my bedroom and used it to listen to the 
ham bands and some shortwave stations.

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Cheers!

Kevin.

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Re: [Elecraft] Really old receivers

2012-06-26 Thread Conard Murray
I tinkered with a WS19 and had it on the air and worked a few people
with it. I found out the hard way that there is full transmitter B+ on
the key. Ouch!
73,
Conard, WS4S
K2 # 0074

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[Elecraft] Fusing the K3 Power Line

2012-06-26 Thread Lee Buller

Reading the manualit says that two 25 amp fuses should be in both the 
positive and negative leads going to the K3 from the battery.  Now, what about 
AC supply like and Astron 35M.  Should you also have the same thing - two fuses 
inline from the PS to the K3.  The manual talks about a battery but doesn't 
address that specifically (or you could infer) for a AC power supply.  Or, am I 
just loosing my mind?

Lee


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Re: [Elecraft] Really old receivers

2012-06-26 Thread peter solly
On 6/26/2012 4:52 PM, peter solly wrote:
 On 6/26/2012 1:57 PM, ERIC MANNING wrote:
 Does anyone else remember or have a Wireless Set Nr. 19?

 Built during WW2 for the Canadian Army Armoured Corps and our Soviet
 Allies [it had Russian and English markings],
 it was a transceiver, weighed a lot, and I cut my teeth on one. Covered
 ALL ham bands [between 2 and 8 Mc/s].
 Most repairs could be made by dropping it on a hard surface.

 [Other than that, I don't have a good thing to say about the old beast.
 It reached truly new lows in performance, even for the 1940s.]

 Eric
 VA7DZ


 Eric: My friend  Greg, ve3oga, has at least 2, 19 sets that are 
 complete and working. I think both units have the # 29 set which has 
 a 220 mhz xcvr used as an intercom between very nearby tanks.  the 19 
 set provided limited AM communications; but far better albeit chirppy 
 cw.
 73 de ve3ad



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Re: [Elecraft] Fusing the K3 Power Line

2012-06-26 Thread Matthew Zilmer
Hi Lee,

The manual (rev D10) doesn't really say 25A fuses, just that the power supply 
should be rated 25A and that two fast-blow fuses should be used in the supply 
cabling for protection.  I use 30A fast-blow fuses, one in each of the pos and 
neg lines.  Power comes from a battery, and the battery is solar-charged.

Matt Zilmer
Consultant - Product Management Dept.
Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
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Cell: (909) 730-6552
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lee Buller
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:57 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Fusing the K3 Power Line


Reading the manualit says that two 25 amp fuses should be in both the 
positive and negative leads going to the K3 from the battery.  Now, what about 
AC supply like and Astron 35M.  Should you also have the same thing - two fuses 
inline from the PS to the K3.  The manual talks about a battery but doesn't 
address that specifically (or you could infer) for a AC power supply.  Or, am I 
just loosing my mind?

Lee


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don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't 
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[Elecraft] Purchase a XG3 ?

2012-06-26 Thread Ronald Nutter
While waiting patiently for my KX3, I read through the manuals and saw a 
section that talks about calibrating the KX3.  By the time my unit 
ships, I may very well have added a module or two more than what I have 
on order at this point.  I want to do this right and get the best 
results, so that begs the question - should I consider purchasing the XG3 ?

Ron
KA4KYI
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Re: [Elecraft] Purchase a XG3 ?

2012-06-26 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Ron,

I have one and love it.  Before I bought it I had built the Xg2 and found it
very helpful in calibrating equipment, not just my Elecraft stuff.  The XG3
is a great tool for the Kx3 but not a kit.  The XG2 is.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ronald Nutter
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:21 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Purchase a XG3 ?

While waiting patiently for my KX3, I read through the manuals and saw a
section that talks about calibrating the KX3.  By the time my unit ships, I
may very well have added a module or two more than what I have on order at
this point.  I want to do this right and get the best results, so that begs
the question - should I consider purchasing the XG3 ?

Ron
KA4KYI

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter) forweak-signal CW work

2012-06-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
It really does make a difference on some signals, even on the K3 and  
KX3, especially when there's a lot of band noise.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 26, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Andrew Faber wrote:

 Wayne,
 I was pleased to see the APF added to the K3, though I think it is  
 not as useful on radios with such good basic filtering, as compared  
 to older radios.  OTOH: it's a favorite feature of my old FT1000D!
 73, andy ae6y

 -Original Message- From: Wayne Burdick
 Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:19 AM
 To: k...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter)  
 forweak-signal CW work

 Both the K3 and KX3 have an APF control (audio peaking filter). APF
 can be extremely effective when you're trying to copy weak CW signals
 buried in noise.

 Most DSP filters have very steep skirts; they're often referred to as
 brick-wall filters for this reason. This is the type of filtering
 associated with the WIDTH control (K3) or PBT control (KX3).

 In contrast, the APF is a filter with a very narrow peak (about 30 Hz
 at the -3 dB points) and very broad skirts. The narrow peak brings up
 the signal amplitude slightly, while the broad skirts prevent noise
 from being amplified and delayed in such a way as to dominate the
 signal. The APF function used in the K3 and KX3 is a modern DSP
 reinterpretation of the hardware APF circuit found on some legacy
 transceivers, which was very effective.

 On the KX3, the APF switch is labeled APF (tap), while on the K3,
 it's labeled DUAL PB (hold). The K3 actually provides two different
 special filter functions; use the DUAL PB menu entry to set up the
 switch for APF.

 When you turn on APF, the DSP graphic changes to remind you of the
 nature of APF, with its narrow peak and broad skirts.

 I suggest setting the passband width to about 250-300 Hz when using
 APF. The DSP graphic still shows an approximate representation of the
 width even with APF turned on.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Purchase a XG3 ?

2012-06-26 Thread Greg
I don't get to use mine as often as I would like to.  It seems to be
loaned out to friends who find it just as handy as I do.  It is a
great tool.

73
Greg
AB7R


On 6/26/12, Bill K9YEQ k9...@live.com wrote:
 Ron,

 I have one and love it.  Before I bought it I had built the Xg2 and found
 it
 very helpful in calibrating equipment, not just my Elecraft stuff.  The XG3
 is a great tool for the Kx3 but not a kit.  The XG2 is.

 73,
 Bill
 K9YEQ


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ronald Nutter
 Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:21 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Purchase a XG3 ?

 While waiting patiently for my KX3, I read through the manuals and saw a
 section that talks about calibrating the KX3.  By the time my unit ships, I
 may very well have added a module or two more than what I have on order at
 this point.  I want to do this right and get the best results, so that begs
 the question - should I consider purchasing the XG3 ?

 Ron
 KA4KYI

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Re: [Elecraft] Really old receivers

2012-06-26 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
I spent many hours under the hot African sun in Natal South Africa during 
the 1940s using the 19, which was the beast which those of us in the 
signals group of my school's cadet corp had to use.  The 19s which we had 
included the VHF B, and during one exercise a school friend and I 
discovered that we could maintain contact using the VHF B over distances 
of a couple of miles or more,depending upon the terrain.  I suspect that 
this discovery might have caused some concern, because the B was 
designed for secure comms between tanks no more than 800 yards apart - 
according to our Instructor.  Anyway my friend and I were asked a lot of 
questions :-)

73,
Geoff
LX2AO



On June 26, 2012 at 7:57 PM, ERIC MANNING wrote:


 Does anyone else remember or have a Wireless Set Nr. 19?

 Built during WW2 for the Canadian Army Armoured Corps and our Soviet
 Allies [it had Russian and English markings],
 it was a transceiver, weighed a lot, and I cut my teeth on one. Covered
 ALL ham bands [between 2 and 8 Mc/s].
 Most repairs could be made by dropping it on a hard surface.

 [Other than that, I don't have a good thing to say about the old beast.
 It reached truly new lows in performance, even for the 1940s.]

 Eric
 VA7DZ

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Re: [Elecraft] QRP field day

2012-06-26 Thread Jim Lowman
All excellent suggestions!  See other comments below:

On 6/26/2012 5:37 AM, Robert 'RC' Conley wrote:
   * We try to collectively earn a WAS.  Not only does this create a
  group goal (rather than competing for most contacts), it also gives folks
  an incentive to move on from hard to make contacts and seek out other
  contact opportunities.
I've always found it fun to try to work a clean sweep of all of the US 
and Canadian
sections, even though there is no award for doing so as in Sweepstakes.
   * Don't forget the digital modes!  PSK31 has been serving us well.
  Don't forget VHF!  A 6m opening can be a life changing experience!  Don't
  forget local contacts on 80m.  You don't need to have a huge antenna and
  you don't need to fight the QRN -- just make occasional passes to collect
  locals.  Also remember that VHF isn't just 2m FM and a mag-mount.  If you
  have a 6m or 2m SSB radio to spare, bring it, and scare up a beam or make
  a simple quad -- your tech who would otherwise be trying to scrape up a
  dozen 2m FM contacts with an HT will love you!  Remember: horizontal
  polarization!
Two friends and I operated 6m/2m SSB/CW QRP one year at our QRP Field 
Day and had a
great time!  From 7,000' ASL we had a nice shot directly up the Central 
Valley of California,
with a number of large cities from Bakersfield up to Sacramento.  If we 
relocated our FD
site up another 1,000' we would also have a clear shot to LA/OC/SD and 
the Inland Empire.
But getting to that site is a challenge.  It's on a ridge at the top of 
a ski run.  It wouldn't be
as convenient to run into Wrightwood for supplies or meals, so we'd have 
more to pack in.
Also, usually it's cold and windy enough where we usually operate.
   * Leave the big shack radios in the shack :).  One of the things 
 that
  can make FD stressful is having to tear down the home station, pack it
  into a hostile environment, pack it back, and then rebuild the shack.
  Many of us have our shack radios and also have several field radios 
 that
  we might not otherwise consider for FD because they are lower power rigs.
  If you're operating a QRP field day, you can leave the home shack intact,
  and just bring your field radios which are also more accustomed to being
  abused.  Our FDs used to be something of a show of force, where folks
  would seemingly bring every piece of radio equipment they owned.  Now, we
  try to do the opposite and typically pack complete stations in laptop and
  camera bags.  Having extra field rigs in your ranks can also be great for
  newer members who a) may be more afraid to bring their nice base rigs 
 into
  the field, and b) often really appreciate the opportunity to operate 
 other
  kinds of radios.
Until recently I would have subscribed to this advice, but one of our 
group has brought his
K3 to the last two Field Days.  While the K3 wasn't necessarily designed 
for portable
operation in the sense of the KX3, it served our 20m station well. The 
fact that there are
so many K3s that go on DXpeditions attests to its durability. However, 
it ran off a 100-Ah
battery that was charged by solar means.  Weighing 95 pounds, I 
understand that it took
two guys to lug it to the tent.  But at 5w, it would run for a long, 
long time.

Thanks to Jessie for the ideas, and to Robert for sharing.

72/73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] all Elecraft FD entry

2012-06-26 Thread Jim Lowman
We were almost there - three K2s, one K3, one KX3 and an Argonaut V.

72/73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 6/26/2012 6:17 AM, cloud runner wrote:
 FWIW ... W5YA 3AB (QRP) was an all Elecraft K3 entry on field day this year.  
 The performance broke the previous category record set by another all 
 Elecraft team, K7EAR, in 2005.  The K3's performed flawlessly.

 73,  Fred - KT5X


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Re: [Elecraft] Fusing the K3 Power Line

2012-06-26 Thread Fred Townsend
Lee your K3 is protected from over current in a number of ways. The worst
case I can imagine in your shack is a heavy metal object falling across and
shorting the unprotected power leads to the K3. I have had this happen. To
protect against this you place fuses at the battery. Your Astron has
foldover current limiting so it is also self-protecting but if it is
connected directly to the battery you will need a second set of fuses at the
battery to protect the charging circuit from reverse feeding a shorted
cable. I think the Astron primary is already fuse protected.

You have already indicated you have grounded everything in your shack. If
that includes the negative of your battery then there is no need to fuse the
negative since you have provided a shunt path around the negative fuse.

A word about fuses and fuse holders. Buy the best quality available and that
usually means buy American. Fuse holders are probably the least reliable
component in your system. Fuse are the second least reliable. Use only spade
type fuses (that's called a faston connector). Protect the assembly from
heat and moisture. Clean up any corrosion with a baking soda paste and a
toothbrush. Remember a bad fuse is one that doesn't fuse at its rated
current. A good fuse is one that fuses at its rated current. No wonder there
is so much confusion about fuses.
73, Fred, AE6QL

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lee Buller
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:57 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Fusing the K3 Power Line


Reading the manualit says that two 25 amp fuses should be in both the
positive and negative leads going to the K3 from the battery.  Now, what
about AC supply like and Astron 35M.  Should you also have the same thing -
two fuses inline from the PS to the K3.  The manual talks about a battery
but doesn't address that specifically (or you could infer) for a AC power
supply.  Or, am I just loosing my mind?

Lee


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don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you
can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common
Sense.  Is Common Sense divine?

Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my
mind. 
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Re: [Elecraft] all Elecraft FD entry

2012-06-26 Thread Ariel Jacala
We were also an all Elecraft entry with 2 K2s running on battery and solar and 
QRP.  We had a tri bander hex beam and a multi band dipole for 40-20-10 EFHW. 
Sleep limited us (slept from midnight to about 6 AM). The K2s worked without a 
hitch. The heat was oppressive but it was still fun working the contacts.  
Photos at http://www.ny4g.blogspot.com

Ariel NY4G

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 26, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 We were almost there - three K2s, one K3, one KX3 and an Argonaut V.
 
 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW
 
 On 6/26/2012 6:17 AM, cloud runner wrote:
 FWIW ... W5YA 3AB (QRP) was an all Elecraft K3 entry on field day this year. 
  The performance broke the previous category record set by another all 
 Elecraft team, K7EAR, in 2005.  The K3's performed flawlessly.
 
 73,  Fred - KT5X
 
 
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[Elecraft] K3 intermittent speaker connection at FD

2012-06-26 Thread Erik Basilier
My K3 did a great job at Field Day, as in previous years. A slight
embarrassment was caused when one of the speakers went silent, and the
operator had to jiggle the 3.5 mm stereo plug to get the sound back. It is
not the first time for me, but the first time someone else using the radio
noticed it. When I first got the radio I was lazy and started using a Radio
shack cable that splits off into two RCA female connectors, and that cable
has stayed with the rig since. Generally I like to make my own cables, but
that would require some suitable wire that is small enough. I like using
RG-174 for purposes such as this, and maybe with a suitable plug double
RG-174 could be used. Anyway, my guess is that the problem with the old
cable is oxide and/or a poor mechanical fit of the 3.5 mm plug. I know that
the subject of quality plugs was discussed recently, and I will be able to
find those posts. Did anybody use those quality plugs with double RG-174? Or
with some other type of cable that makes it easy to split the channels at
the other end? Or is there a ready-made Y cable available like the one I
have, but very reliable when used for K3 stereo speaker connection?

 

Thanks in advance.

73,

Erik K7TV

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Re: [Elecraft] all Elecraft FD entry

2012-06-26 Thread Milt -- N5IA
Congrats Fred.

I was the FD Chairman for Eastern AZ Amateur Radio Society, Inc.   
http://eaars.com/   for the 2005 operation of K7EAR from the Pinaleno Mtn. 
Range in South Eastern AZ.

The lineup then, of course was all K-2s.  See the photos at   
http://eaars.com/05fieldday.html

Again congrats.  Onward and upward.

Milt, N5IA


-Original Message- 
From: cloud runner 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:17 AM 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] all Elecraft FD entry 

FWIW ... W5YA 3AB (QRP) was an all Elecraft K3 entry on field day this year.  
The performance broke the previous category record set by another all Elecraft 
team, K7EAR, in 2005.  The K3's performed flawlessly.

73,  Fred - KT5X
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[Elecraft] The ins and outs of PSK on the K3?

2012-06-26 Thread tomb18
I have been running PSK for a couple of months now on the K3 and am wondering
if I am using it in the best way.
I am using DM780 that comes with Ham Radio Deluxe and I usually set the K3
in USB and pick the stations from the waterfall. I also have a P3. Up until
now, I have been using the 2.8 KHz filter setting and have had AGC on.  It
always seemed that there were two flaws in this:  One was that it was not
easy to pick the actual signal using the P3 markers, you always were using
the USB lower frequency point that was some number of hz away from the
signal.  The second was how do you get an actual frequency for the signal
instead of just 14.070 (20M)?  Sometimes you can see stations spotted at
14.072 but finding it was always a search of spots one by one.


Today I played around a bit.  For one, I used the manual notch filter to
remove a really strong signal.  I turned of AGC. This works well.  I also
set the radio in DATA mode instead of USB.  The nice thing about this, is
that I can use the P3 with a +/- 2 KHz span, and see all of the signals in
the usual PSK range, but now I can click on one I see, and it will actually
center it in the passband and give me a frequency readout that seems better
than the standard 14.070 for 20m.  Furthermore, I can use a narrower filter
and the reception seems much better and the decoding more accurate.

So my question is, is my new found way of using the K3 a better way and
possibly the best?
Thanks for any insight.
Tom VA2FSQ



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Re: [Elecraft] Really old receivers

2012-06-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Are you ever dating yourself  :)Did the Brits ever get those early
National military receivers to use, or did only the Yanks have them?

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.luwrote:

 I spent many hours under the hot African sun in Natal South Africa during
 the 1940s using the 19, which was the beast which those of us in the
 signals group of my school's cadet corp had to use.  The 19s which we had
 included the VHF B, and during one exercise a school friend and I
 discovered that we could maintain contact using the VHF B over distances
 of a couple of miles or more,depending upon the terrain.  I suspect that
 this discovery might have caused some concern, because the B was
 designed for secure comms between tanks no more than 800 yards apart -
 according to our Instructor.  Anyway my friend and I were asked a lot of
 questions :-)

 73,
 Geoff
 LX2AO



 On June 26, 2012 at 7:57 PM, ERIC MANNING wrote:


  Does anyone else remember or have a Wireless Set Nr. 19?
 
  Built during WW2 for the Canadian Army Armoured Corps and our Soviet
  Allies [it had Russian and English markings],
  it was a transceiver, weighed a lot, and I cut my teeth on one. Covered
  ALL ham bands [between 2 and 8 Mc/s].
  Most repairs could be made by dropping it on a hard surface.
 
  [Other than that, I don't have a good thing to say about the old beast.
  It reached truly new lows in performance, even for the 1940s.]
 
  Eric
  VA7DZ

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[Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 order number to time/date conversion

2012-06-26 Thread Thomas Horsten
Guys,

There's been a lot of questions about how to convert the order number to a
time/date. I've made a script to do this for you, just enter your order
number and the time your order was accepted will be displayed in various
time zones.

http://thomas.horsten.com/kx3-order.php

73, Thomas M0TRN
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Re: [Elecraft] The ins and outs of PSK on the K3?

2012-06-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tom,

There is nothing wrong with the way you are doing it - and works well 
for anyone having a panadapter display to work with (P3 or LP-Pan)  With 
that you can narrow up the filters and eliminate interference.
If you do it that way (tune the K3 to the signal desired rather than 
clicking on a waterfall), then you may want to investigate using the K3 
Utility terminal rather than DM780 if all you want to decode is PSK31 or 
RTTY, or you might want to investigate Fldigi and give the K3 polling 
(and your computer reaources) a rest.

OTOH, there is a convience to using that full SSB bandwidth (but in DATA 
A submode) along with a waterfall display.  Click on a signal on the 
waterfall, the K3 frequency does not change, but the PSK31 application 
shows you the frequency of the signal.  Yes, using that wide bandwidth, 
you would want to turn AGC off, or if that is not desirable, turn the RF 
gain down as required - the soundcard application filters are plenty 
good, but strong signals within the bandpass will pump the AGC and 
change the gain of the receiver.  One problem with HRD/DM780 is that it 
does not properly recognize the K3 data submodes and will force your K3 
to USB if you allow it to do whatever it wants - you can change the mode 
manually to DATA A, but that is a pain.  I gave up on HRD for exactly 
that reason.  I use Fldigi with RigCAT selected.

73,
Don W3FPR.

On 6/26/2012 8:36 PM, tomb18 wrote:
 I have been running PSK for a couple of months now on the K3 and am wondering
 if I am using it in the best way.
 I am using DM780 that comes with Ham Radio Deluxe and I usually set the K3
 in USB and pick the stations from the waterfall. I also have a P3. Up until
 now, I have been using the 2.8 KHz filter setting and have had AGC on.  It
 always seemed that there were two flaws in this:  One was that it was not
 easy to pick the actual signal using the P3 markers, you always were using
 the USB lower frequency point that was some number of hz away from the
 signal.  The second was how do you get an actual frequency for the signal
 instead of just 14.070 (20M)?  Sometimes you can see stations spotted at
 14.072 but finding it was always a search of spots one by one.


 Today I played around a bit.  For one, I used the manual notch filter to
 remove a really strong signal.  I turned of AGC. This works well.  I also
 set the radio in DATA mode instead of USB.  The nice thing about this, is
 that I can use the P3 with a +/- 2 KHz span, and see all of the signals in
 the usual PSK range, but now I can click on one I see, and it will actually
 center it in the passband and give me a frequency readout that seems better
 than the standard 14.070 for 20m.  Furthermore, I can use a narrower filter
 and the reception seems much better and the decoding more accurate.

 So my question is, is my new found way of using the K3 a better way and
 possibly the best?
 Thanks for any insight.
 Tom VA2FSQ



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Re: [Elecraft] Fusing the K3 Power Line

2012-06-26 Thread Carl Clawson
A better way to say it would be A good fuse is one that meets its written
specifications. They aren't all guaranteed to ever blow at their rated
current. Some are, some aren't. Looking one up at random on littelfuse.com
just now, I found time to open specified as:

150% of rating, max 30 minutes
300% of rating, max 10 seconds

Another one says

100% of rating, min 4 hours
135% of rating, max 1 hour
200% of rating, max 1 second

Circuit breakers are rated similarly. Remember, nothing is 100% accurate or
100% perfect, so there has to be some slop somewhere.

73 and thanks for listening,
Carl WS7L
Mr Pedantic

 -Original Message-
A good fuse is one that fuses at its rated current. No wonder there
is so much confusion about fuses. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 intermittent speaker connection at FD

2012-06-26 Thread mikefurrey


Did anybody use those quality plugs with double RG-174? Or
with some other type of cable that makes it easy to split the channels at
the other end? Or is there a ready-made Y cable available like the one I
have, but very reliable when used for K3 stereo speaker connection?

I use a spare set of small Creative computer speakers and plugged them in 
the back. The leads are not shielded and they work fine so far.

73, Mike WA5POK
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[Elecraft] KX3 firmware 1.04 +

2012-06-26 Thread Bill Conkling
I would really like to get latest firmware for KX3.  Anyone able to help?

...bill nr4c

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[Elecraft] shipping notification?

2012-06-26 Thread David F. Reed
I placed my order (for a factory built KX3) on 12/30, and according to 
the website I should have received a notification email by now but I 
have not.

Anyone have any ideas about that? Its not in the spam or junk folder so 
I know I did not trap it in there...

Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV
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[Elecraft] random wire and the KX3 ATU

2012-06-26 Thread Jeff Herr
I know folks who have had bad experiences using a random wire with an ATU.

Although I ordered a buddipole with the kx3 I still am interested in getting
A 74 foot length of wire up in the pine trees (I will have a counterpoise)
while up in the 
Lassen national forest.we go there a lot.

When I mention this I am met with much skepticism.

Am I way off base?  Is this beyond the capabilities of the tuner?
Is there a descriptive spec for the tuner that describes the range of it
matching capability?

WW6L


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Re: [Elecraft] The ins and outs of PSK on the K3?

2012-06-26 Thread Adrian


On 27/06/2012 0:36, tomb18 wrote:
 I have been running PSK for a couple of months now on the K3 and am wondering
 if I am using it in the best way.
 I am using DM780 that comes with Ham Radio Deluxe and I usually set the K3
 in USB and pick the stations from the waterfall. I also have a P3. Up until
 now, I have been using the 2.8 KHz filter setting and have had AGC on.
I have used like this, but with agc always off and filter from wide to 
narrow settings depending on usage, i.e. dxpedition narrow on qrg etc.# 
Indicated waterfall audio freq is added to vfo freq to spot, i.e.14070  
1500hz for 14071.5 etc.
   It
 always seemed that there were two flaws in this:  One was that it was not
 easy to pick the actual signal using the P3 markers, you always were using
 the USB lower frequency point that was some number of hz away from the
 signal.

 The second was how do you get an actual frequency for the signal
 instead of just 14.070 (20M)? see # above
Sometimes you can see stations spotted at 14.072 but finding it was 
always a search of spots one by one. Today I played around a bit. For 
one, I used the manual notch filter to remove a really strong signal. I 
turned of AGC. This works well. I also set the radio in DATA mode 
instead of USB. The nice thing about this, is that I can use the P3 with 
a +/- 2 KHz span, and see all of the signals in the usual PSK range, but 
now I can click on one I see, and it will actually center it in the 
passband and give me a frequency readout that seems better than the 
standard 14.070 for 20m. Furthermore, I can use a narrower filter and 
the reception seems much better and the decoding more accurate. So my 
question is, is my new found way of using the K3 a better way and 
possibly the best? Thanks for any insight. Tom VA2FSQ -- View this 
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Re: [Elecraft] The ins and outs of PSK on the K3?

2012-06-26 Thread tomb18
Hi,

I did try what you suggested, but on the P3 when you use data a mode, if you
click on a signal on the P3, the marker is way outside the filter region. 
It seems if you put the K3 in PSK-D mode and use the P3 (and soundcard) then
what you click on is pretty well in the middle of the waterfall and you can
zero in on it quite well.  Things sound a little funny though, compared to
USB or data A.  Is this a normal situation?


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Re: [Elecraft] Really old receivers

2012-06-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
A buddy and I both had one in the 1950's. Yes, we chirped our way onto 40
meter CW with them but most challenging was using that 220 MHz modulated
oscillator transceiver built in for tank-to-troop walkie-talkie contacts. It
is tuned by the vertical thumbwheel on the left part of the panel. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Does anyone else remember or have a Wireless Set Nr. 19?

Built during WW2 for the Canadian Army Armoured Corps and our Soviet Allies
[it had Russian and English markings], it was a transceiver, weighed a lot,
and I cut my teeth on one. Covered ALL ham bands [between 2 and 8 Mc/s].
Most repairs could be made by dropping it on a hard surface.

[Other than that, I don't have a good thing to say about the old beast. 
It reached truly new lows in performance, even for the 1940s.]

Eric
VA7DZ

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Re: [Elecraft] random wire and the KX3 ATU

2012-06-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
Jeff,

The KXAT3 has a very wide tuning range and is specifically designed  
for use with random-length antennas. Typically any wire longer than  
20' or so can be tuned up on 40-6 meters. A 74-foot antenna will  
probably be tunable to reasonable SWR on 160-6.

A random wire antenna can work very well -- comparable to a vertical  
or dipole depending on the band, radiation angle, and your ground  
system (if the random wire is worked against radials).

I use random wires almost exclusively. The KXAT3 does an excellent job  
with them. It will also do other magic tricks like make an 80-meter  
dipole work on all bands, or a 20-meter yagi work on 30-6 meters, etc.  
Efficiency will vary, but the transmitter will be happy.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 26, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Jeff Herr wrote:

 I know folks who have had bad experiences using a random wire with  
 an ATU.

 Although I ordered a buddipole with the kx3 I still am interested in  
 getting
 A 74 foot length of wire up in the pine trees (I will have a  
 counterpoise)
 while up in the
 Lassen national forest.we go there a lot.

 When I mention this I am met with much skepticism.

 Am I way off base?  Is this beyond the capabilities of the tuner?
 Is there a descriptive spec for the tuner that describes the range  
 of it
 matching capability?

 WW6L


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[Elecraft] CW keys? CW OPS!

2012-06-26 Thread jacob chambers


Whatever key, or keying device, one chooses, good technique
is paramount. Optimally, the operator receiving your code will have no idea
what particular device you are using, and this is true even with bug-key 
sending,
if sent with machine precision. I do not say this is easy. Good code, sent by
hand – and all good code must be sent by hand, for who evaluates the timing and
fluency of a computer- is the only aesthetic element of CW shared by both
sender and receiver. This is important for there are many aesthetic elements of
Morse code; there is the pleasure of un-boxing a new key and feeling the finger
pieces for the first time, the first taste of spring tension on an antique bug,
that first test of continuity in the mechanical train and the feeling that a
great friendship, or even romance has begun. Then, there are the hours.  Hours 
upon hours spent at the oscillator
sending names from the phone directory or the titles of books on the shelf. The
striving for perfection while intoxicated by the sweet rhythm of characters 
dwelt
over, isolated, sent fast and slow, in pieces and parts until, a thousand times
and still not just quite…yes there it is now. Perfect! 

This is too rich a gift to be hoarded. So, to the ether we
go! And now, and only now, does the true shared aesthetic experience become 
possible.
We answer a CQ by mustering our very best, well practiced and expectant 
characters
for the examination of friend. It is just as we had hoped: the characters flow
nicely, the propagation holds, a nice chat ensues, and finally our friend signs
clear with appreciation and a recognition of our hard work, now evident. “GUD
FIST”. 

Code is a gift, and whether a solitary solace or shared experience,
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Re: [Elecraft] random wire and the KX3 ATU

2012-06-26 Thread Phillip Shepard
As an example, I used a 40m Extended Double Zepp for field day.  This is an
180' wire center fed with ladder line.  My FD installation had about 60' of
ladder line hanging down to the rig.  Ordinarily, I would use a toroid to
make a balun to the rig, but I didn't have a suitable form in my junk box,
so I hooked the ladder line to a BNC to dual banana binding post adapter.
The KX3 ATU did fine in matching from 80 to 10m, except on 40m.  On the
other bands, the match was 1:1 or close, but on 40m, the tuner struggled to
get down to 3:1 or so.  I added a 33' radial wire to the ground side of
the banana adapter and ran it under the antenna, keeping it 2 to 3' above
the ground.  With this addition, the ATU could usually get close to 1:1 on
40m. The antenna seemed to play well, so the efficiency must not have been
too bad.  I was impressed with the KX3 for many reasons, including its ATU.

73,
Phil, NS7P

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:09 PM
To: Jeff Herr
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] random wire and the KX3 ATU


Jeff,

The KXAT3 has a very wide tuning range and is specifically designed
for use with random-length antennas. Typically any wire longer than
20' or so can be tuned up on 40-6 meters. A 74-foot antenna will
probably be tunable to reasonable SWR on 160-6.

A random wire antenna can work very well -- comparable to a vertical
or dipole depending on the band, radiation angle, and your ground
system (if the random wire is worked against radials).

I use random wires almost exclusively. The KXAT3 does an excellent job
with them. It will also do other magic tricks like make an 80-meter
dipole work on all bands, or a 20-meter yagi work on 30-6 meters, etc.
Efficiency will vary, but the transmitter will be happy.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 26, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Jeff Herr wrote:

 I know folks who have had bad experiences using a random wire with
 an ATU.

 Although I ordered a buddipole with the kx3 I still am interested in
 getting
 A 74 foot length of wire up in the pine trees (I will have a
 counterpoise)
 while up in the
 Lassen national forest.we go there a lot.

 When I mention this I am met with much skepticism.

 Am I way off base?  Is this beyond the capabilities of the tuner?
 Is there a descriptive spec for the tuner that describes the range
 of it
 matching capability?

 WW6L


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Re: [Elecraft] random wire and the KX3 ATU

2012-06-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
Well done, Phil. Experimenting with antennas is half the fun, IMHO.

Wayne

On Jun 26, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Phillip Shepard wrote:

 As an example, I used a 40m Extended Double Zepp for field day.   
 This is an
 180' wire center fed with ladder line.  My FD installation had about  
 60' of
 ladder line hanging down to the rig.  Ordinarily, I would use a  
 toroid to
 make a balun to the rig, but I didn't have a suitable form in my  
 junk box,
 so I hooked the ladder line to a BNC to dual banana binding post  
 adapter.
 The KX3 ATU did fine in matching from 80 to 10m, except on 40m.  On  
 the
 other bands, the match was 1:1 or close, but on 40m, the tuner  
 struggled to
 get down to 3:1 or so.  I added a 33' radial wire to the ground  
 side of
 the banana adapter and ran it under the antenna, keeping it 2 to 3'  
 above
 the ground.  With this addition, the ATU could usually get close to  
 1:1 on
 40m. The antenna seemed to play well, so the efficiency must not  
 have been
 too bad.  I was impressed with the KX3 for many reasons, including  
 its ATU.

 73,
 Phil, NS7P

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
 Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:09 PM
 To: Jeff Herr
 Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] random wire and the KX3 ATU


 Jeff,

 The KXAT3 has a very wide tuning range and is specifically designed
 for use with random-length antennas. Typically any wire longer than
 20' or so can be tuned up on 40-6 meters. A 74-foot antenna will
 probably be tunable to reasonable SWR on 160-6.

 A random wire antenna can work very well -- comparable to a vertical
 or dipole depending on the band, radiation angle, and your ground
 system (if the random wire is worked against radials).

 I use random wires almost exclusively. The KXAT3 does an excellent job
 with them. It will also do other magic tricks like make an 80-meter
 dipole work on all bands, or a 20-meter yagi work on 30-6 meters, etc.
 Efficiency will vary, but the transmitter will be happy.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 On Jun 26, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Jeff Herr wrote:

 I know folks who have had bad experiences using a random wire with
 an ATU.

 Although I ordered a buddipole with the kx3 I still am interested in
 getting
 A 74 foot length of wire up in the pine trees (I will have a
 counterpoise)
 while up in the
 Lassen national forest.we go there a lot.

 When I mention this I am met with much skepticism.

 Am I way off base?  Is this beyond the capabilities of the tuner?
 Is there a descriptive spec for the tuner that describes the range
 of it
 matching capability?

 WW6L


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