[Elecraft] KX3 ACC1 interface - logic signal levels - what is official Elecraft standard for this ?

2012-09-21 Thread Brian Lodahl OZ2BRN
Hi Kx3 users,

Other posts have previously dealt with the issue that the standard KXUSB 
cable for Kx3 does not support CW keying from the computer to the Kx3 
radio, simply from the fact that as opposed to the ordinary serial 
connection (old RS-232 standard), the RTS and CTS pins are not available 
in the 3.5 mm, three-pin TRS jack connector for ACC1 in the Kx3.

Pursuing this further, and not wanting to have more than one USB cable 
to my PC from my Kx3 for all of my buisness on the PC side, I want now 
to build a new interface cable using a custom cable assembly from FTDI:

http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBTTLSerial.htm

Then using either RTS or CTS flags in my PC's radio interface setup (log 
program Win-Test) to pull the CW key connection in the Kx3, possibly via 
a FET or Opto Coupler.

- I have a 4N25 in mind for this ... with parallel coupling of two 
1N5711 to the paddle dit's and dah's.
I did the very same thing on my K2, and it worked like a charm.

Checking the signal levels on my oscilloscope today on the ACC1 data 
connection, I find:

Tip connection = Rx data from the computer to the Kx3 = 5,0 - 5,2 volts 
level (generated by the FTDI line driver)
Ring connection = Tx data to the computer from the Kx3 = 7,0-7,5 volts 
level (generated by the Kx3 line driver)
both with respect to GND being the sleeve pin of the ACC1 jack plug, and 
looking pretty, noise-free and free of any transients. Good, nice square 
signals with good integrity.

Baud rate of the data here is obviously configurable, and with your PC's 
logging program so is the polling rate of how often the PC requests data 
from the Kx3.

My question :What is the official Elecraft electrical specifications 
for the ACC1 interface ???
What voltage levels for Rx and Tx, respectively, and what impedance to I 
terminate with when I interface with e.g. opto coupler for my project ?

Would I be OK assuming I just use a 5-volt TTL-level cable version here, 
both ways Rx+Tx OK ?

TTL-232R-5V:
http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/DataSheets/Cables/DS_TTL-232R_CABLES.pdf
 


73'
Brian OZ2BRN
Kx3 # 1118, K2 # 6936 (to which I did the same mod)
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote Version

2012-09-21 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Dave,

I always use TL Details whicj can be downloaded here at wbsite of AC6LA 
: http://www.ac6la.com/tldetails.html

It is easy to use.
Choose the cable that you are using, set the frequency, set the line 
length and set an estiimate of the impedance at the load.
If you donot know that and your swr meter says 1:3, then set R tot 150. 
This makes the program calculate with SWR 3

Then you can read the loss and some other nice things  from this very 
nice little tool.
It has been on my computers for a very long time, and has become a 
standard program for me to install on my computer.

73
Arie PA3A



Op 20-9-2012 21:59, David Bunte schreef:

 It was suggested that the TLW program by N6BV, that is packaged with the
 ARRL Antenna Book would help, but I have not been able to figure out how to
 use it, and can find no instructions for that program.

 Any and all help will be appreciated.

 Dave - K9FN




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[Elecraft] Got the tracking email

2012-09-21 Thread M5FRA - Colin
... for my KX3 complete with the elusive paddle. Best news this week! 
  
Colin - G8FRA/M5FRA
  
m5fra.org.uk

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[Elecraft] KX3: Preamp shuts itself off

2012-09-21 Thread Edward R Cole
I have been running my KX3 as 28-MHz IF for my 144-28 transverter and 
the transverter is a little gain deficient in Rx so I turn on the 
preamp in the KX3 too boost the level a tad.  Unfortunately after a 
few minutes the preamp shuts off by itself.  KX3 is sitting in Rx 
monitoring a 2m FM frequency (29.210+116=145.210).

I had the preamp set to 30-dB gain so thought maybe that was 
overloading the receiver and the radio automatically adjusted for 
overdriving.  So I set the preamp to 10-dB gain.  It still shuts off 
by itself after a few minutes.

Anyone see this happening?
73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Preamp shuts itself off

2012-09-21 Thread Josh Lehan
On 09/21/2012 12:23 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
 I have been running my KX3 as 28-MHz IF for my 144-28 transverter and 
 the transverter is a little gain deficient in Rx so I turn on the 
 preamp in the KX3 too boost the level a tad.  Unfortunately after a 
 few minutes the preamp shuts off by itself.  KX3 is sitting in Rx 
 monitoring a 2m FM frequency (29.210+116=145.210).
 
 I had the preamp set to 30-dB gain so thought maybe that was 
 overloading the receiver and the radio automatically adjusted for 
 overdriving.  So I set the preamp to 10-dB gain.  It still shuts off 
 by itself after a few minutes.
 
 Anyone see this happening?
 73, Ed - KL7UW

I've seen that happen as well.  If I have the preamp on, and tune a
strong nearby station in the AM broadcast band, a little message like
HI SIGNAL (I forgot the exact wording) will appear, and the preamp
will turn itself off.  Good thing, IMO, if it protects against
overloading the receiver.  It's easy to turn back on again, simply hit PRE.

The message only flashes for a few seconds, so it's easy to miss.  I
kind of wish that alerts/warnings like this would stay on the screen
longer, or at least until a control is pressed, so that they're not
missed if the radio isn't actively being looked at right at that moment.

Josh
KJ6PVN
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[Elecraft] KX3 ATU maximum SWR that can TX safely

2012-09-21 Thread Josh Lehan
Hi there.

I'm really liking the ATU in my KX3: it is able to solve all the bands
on my antenna (a G5RV) to a perfect 1.0-1 match, with the exception of
160 meters.  It can only get that down to 7.5-1 (or so).

I'm curious as to what the maximum SWR is, that I can safely transmit
at, without damaging the radio.  Is there a table anywhere that shows
what the maximum acceptable SWR is, for various power levels?  Does the
radio automatically detect when it's running into trouble, and throttle
back the TX power automatically?  If so, that would be great.  My 15V
power supply allows the KX3 to TX at up to 12 watts, and I'm hesitant to
try the full 12 watts at such a high SWR.

Thanks!

Josh
KJ6PVN
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[Elecraft] FS: LDG AT-100ProII Autotuner

2012-09-21 Thread Pete Meier
Selling as new - used twice and decided I prefer a digital readout. Unit is 
perfect and works as intended.

Price is $170 (online price is about $200) This unit handles 1-125 watts

Pete WK8S
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[Elecraft] 13.8V DC Supply

2012-09-21 Thread Howard Hoyt
Mike, KW1ND said:
Seems to me Elecraft already has a great linear DC supply:
It's built into the KPA500.
Repackage it as a stand-alone, done.

It is too late to add a 13.8VDC aux supply to the KPA-500, and besides, I don't 
know if it has an internal supply with appreciable current capability other 
than the main PA 80V supply.  To down-series regulate this to 13.8 would incur 
unacceptable power loss and heat in the pass element.  It would have been nice 
though, to only have the one AC power cord!  Great idea...now if you just had 
it a few years ago while they were specifying the power transformer...lololol

The concept reminds me of how I operated mobile years ago (showing my age here) 
with the Drake R-4B/T-4XB twins, the 13.8VDC input DC-4 supply supplied all the 
voltages for both rigs including a 115VAC receptacle for the R-4B.  
(Unfortunately the DC-4 switched at 330Hz, resulting in a continuous low-level 
whine IIRC).

back to Elecraft issues...

Howie - WA4PSC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Intermittent changes in audio gain

2012-09-21 Thread Keith Heimbold
I had this happen to me during mobile operations and not sure why either. 
Signals dropped right out and then when I turned off the radio for a few 
minutes and when i turned on the KX3  it went back to where it was prior and 
remained that way.

I will keep an eye on it to see if it happens again. 

Keith
AG6AZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kevin Luxford elelist...@elitemail.org wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 My KX3 has just developed an apparent fault - the audio level changes 
 abruptly every few seconds from a comfortable listening level to quiet, 
 but still audible.
 
 I am using my Proset headphones.
 
 Any thoughts on where I should start looking?  I am nervous about poking 
 around surface mount circuits!
 
 vy 73
 Kevin
 VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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[Elecraft] [OT] Microsoft Win7 stuff

2012-09-21 Thread David Windisch
Hi, all concerned:

Full disclosure: 

I buy and run generic Microsoft stuff wherever I can, not for the cool ade
content, but for the access to the large database of fixes when the stuff
breaks.  I have no idea if the following works with other stuff.

If you liked the earlier windows 7 god mode post, try this one for all the
Win7 group policies you ever wanted to see:

1. Left-click the Start button.

2. Type or copy-and-paste  

   gpedit.msc

into the search box.

3. Press the ENTER key.

Ta-dh.

Optional:

If you have experienced and want to cure one of my most favorite annoyances,
the add-on performance notification I occasionally get at the bottom of my
screen: 

0. Open Help and read the manual. Heh heh.

1. Enlarge the window to full-screen size.

2. Open either one of the Administrative Templates folders.  I usually
start with the upper one.

3. Open All settings.

4. Scroll down the Setting column to Disable add-on performance
notifications line entry.   If you don't see the line entry in the list,
look in the other Administrative Templates folder.

5. Open it.

6. Click the Enabled radio button.

7. Click Apply.

8. Close the open windows.

9. Repeat steps 2.-9. for the other Administrative Templates folder; some
of the entries appear in both Administrative Templates folders.

10. Reboot the computer.

Another one of my favorite annoyances is malware changing settings on the
browser's home page.  Follow the steps above for the Disable changing home
page settings line entry.

Hope this is useful.

Brgds,
Dave, N3HE















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[Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Gordan Hribar
Hi,
Can I ask ELECRAFT what's next on the list for the K3 firmware improvements we 
can expect

E72X -Gordan
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Re: [Elecraft] Balun Ground Connection

2012-09-21 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
First thing I would say it to literally model your back yard,
including all your antennas and feedlines.  In the same model.  That
may cost you some for serious models that will handle that much wire.
Or you can visit a friend who has the software and do it on his.

In our head, among all the miscellaneous mental simplification devices
we have to understand the world, are some often expressed, like coax
laying on the ground is out of play and can be forgotten.  It's not
true of course, and it's hardly the only common misnomer.  The truth
comes up when you uncover a couple dozen surprises about what is
really going on and places where common mode current on conductors is
playing havoc.  There is no simple rule, but the site model of your
yard is worth it.

One may get away with a lot of stuff most of the time, even nearly all
of the time, but the typical backyard is so random compared to others'
backyards that no inviolable rules really exist.

One problem with an elevated long run of 450 ohm line placed ~ 900
volts of common mode voltage across a blocking point running QRO and
was destroying ferrite devices.  Literally modeling the transmission
line in the site model identified the reason why, it was just an
unlucky length in an unlucky place.  It was also dissipating a lot of
power.  Some redesign, and transformer winding, and problem gone.

It was obvious in the model. My intuitive mental simplification
device about how that worked was just plain wrong.  Do a site model.
There was real increase in TX radiated power after that was fixed.

There is much about antennas that simply is NOT intuitive.  The model
is not fooled.  I realize this suggestion has all the attractiveness
of being told to take out the trash, mow the grass, or plow the
garden, paint the house, or complete putting down and burying the
radials to have a truly dense field. But if you have one of those
surprises Heh, heh.

IF you have the site model, you can also model insertion of common
mode blocks, adding grounds, discovering where they have effect.

LIke I said, taking out the trash is neither elegant nor entertaining,
but highly useful overall.

73, Guy.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:24 AM,  zen...@netspace.net.au wrote:


 Hi Rich,

 This DXE balun is just a hefty 1:1 choke balun  It's a high grade
 coax (50ohm) wrapped through ferrite cores.  The balanced terminals
 are floating and the unbalanced end is connected to the aluminium
 housing and the shield of the 6 foot length of RG213 coax which
 connects the balun and my tuner.  I have a balun inside my tuner too,
 but I don't use it:  it's a 4:1 current balun and in this application
 with a multi-band loop,   I prefer to use the external 1:1 balun.

 I agree - with my loop , anything that changes the feedline length,
 even by smallish amounts, alters the impedance seen by the tuner at
 the end of the line and the manual tuner settings change on (usually)
 multiple bands and the KAT3 has to reconfigure its LC settings.  I
 expected that, as a function of the impedance transforming effect of
 the feedline, but what I didn't expect was the very significant
 difference that different  shack grounding arrangements would make
 to the whole process of matching the antenna system at the shack end
 of the feedline.

 About the common mode current that I'm measuring on the coax between
 the balun and the tuner:  Yes, I assume the 1:1 balun has sufficient
 common mode impedance to be preventing common mode current standing
 waves on unbalanced side of it.   But I think what I'm measuring is
 current that's being induced in the coax shield because it's lying in
 the near field of radiation of the loop.  Again, what is a mystery to
 me is how changing the grounding arrangement on the balun could affect
 the magnitude of that.

 I find this intruguing, but for the moment, I've put the clip on
 ammeter away.  I'm going to forget it, while i digest this, and go
 and play on 20m instead.

 Thanks for all the comments I've rec'd, on and off the list.

 73

 John

 VK7JB

 -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard Fjeld
  Sent: Friday, 21 September 2012 1:00 PM
  To: elecraft posting
  Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Balun Ground Connection



 John,

 It is unfortunate that we can't see a schematic of how the balun is
 wired.

 I have thought of doing that same thing to be able to use an ATU.

 Presently, I have an 80 meter loop fed with homebrew 450 ohm ladder
 line to

 a tuner with a 1:1 balun within.  It works beautifully on all
 bands.  I wish

 I had done it many years ago.



 As for your grounding the coax at both ends, I effectively do that
 here also

 on my coax switch with coax to my K3 which is also grounded.  So
 that is why

 it would be necessary to 

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Intermittent changes in audio gain

2012-09-21 Thread Matt Zilmer
The KX3 probably detected a HI CUR condition.  This can happen because
of high (or low) PS voltage due to automotive electrical fluctuations.
Sometimes this can happen because of ground current with the antenna
connected, so check this for a positive correlation.

You should not see HI CUR while on the KX3's internal batteries.  This
proves the automotive supply is caused it.

When the KX3 sees HI CUR (usually something higher than 300 mA on RX),
it will flash that HI CUR message on VFO A.  If the condition
persists, it will drop the AF gain to some predetermined value.  If
the condition continues beyond that point, the KX3 will shut itself
off to protect itself.  In my own case, both the AF gain and
self-shutdown events were happening.  HI CUR is preventable in a
mobile setting - see below.

I produced a pretty good document on KX3 mobile ops, which I'm about
to add to.  It's posted on the Elecraft web site at
http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#kx3_mobile.

Keith, I saw that same type of problem while mobile with KX3 #6 right
up until I installed a DC-DC converter.  See the doc for details of
all that.

73,
matt W6NIA
KX3 #6, K3 #24, etc.

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:45:18 -0700, you wrote:

I had this happen to me during mobile operations and not sure why either. 
Signals dropped right out and then when I turned off the radio for a few 
minutes and when i turned on the KX3  it went back to where it was prior and 
remained that way.

I will keep an eye on it to see if it happens again. 

Keith
AG6AZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kevin Luxford elelist...@elitemail.org wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 My KX3 has just developed an apparent fault - the audio level changes 
 abruptly every few seconds from a comfortable listening level to quiet, 
 but still audible.
 
 I am using my Proset headphones.
 
 Any thoughts on where I should start looking?  I am nervous about poking 
 around surface mount circuits!
 
 vy 73
 Kevin
 VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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[Elecraft] HEY

2012-09-21 Thread Bill Wiehe

awesome you should check this out wow 
http://www.news15localca.net/work/?article=65102

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] K2N QRP CW DE-Xpedition Results and Video

2012-09-21 Thread Andy - GM0NWI
AMAZIN' ! Simply Amazin'!

I always love to see the guy's who do the restoration work on the W.W.II
stuff...

Great Job Guy's on the efforts made there  LOTS of F.U.N. had by all from
what we can see ...


Stan any idea from Mr Begali himself perhaps when the new key will be
nearing the release date ?  I for one are certainly gonna be keepin' an eye
out
for that (IF ! it helps me send CW like the fella in the video hi-hi)...

Thanks for the heads-up..

73's
Andy
GM0NWI
andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com




=


Any close up pictures of the new key?

73, W0EA
TJ

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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
 Can I ask ELECRAFT what's next on the list for the K3 firmware  
 improvements we can expect...

Hi Gordan,

Best guess:

   - improved CW decode at all AGC settings
   - support for KAT500 antenna switching from the K3
   - bug fixes related to remote rig communications (K3/0)

There have also been many requests for minor changes, some of which  
I'll be adding. I can't say yet which ones will make the next cut.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] K2N QRP CW DE-Xpedition Results and Video

2012-09-21 Thread stan levandowski
Andy, I too wish I could send CW like that fella in the video.  As far 
as a release date goes, Ulrich initially thought a couple weeks and he 
states this in the video.  Eight hours of multiple operators pounding 
the Adventures produced some ideas for further (minor) refinements which 
Piero is now considering.  So...most likely not a couple weeks but it 
shouldn't be too much longer before we hear something official.   73, 
Stan WB2LQF

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Andy - GM0NWI wrote:

 AMAZIN' ! Simply Amazin'!

 I always love to see the guy's who do the restoration work on the 
 W.W.II
 stuff...

 Great Job Guy's on the efforts made there  LOTS of F.U.N. had by all 
 from
 what we can see ...


 Stan any idea from Mr Begali himself perhaps when the new key will 
 be
 nearing the release date ?  I for one are certainly gonna be keepin' 
 an eye
 out
 for that (IF ! it helps me send CW like the fella in the video 
 hi-hi)...

 Thanks for the heads-up..

 73's
 Andy
 GM0NWI
 andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com


 
 
 
 
 =


 Any close up pictures of the new key?

 73, W0EA
 TJ

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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread ab2tc
Any hope for serial command support for the receive equalizer?

AB2TC - Knut


wayne burdick wrote
 Can I ask ELECRAFT what's next on the list for the K3 firmware  
 improvements we can expect...
 
 Hi Gordan,
 
 Best guess:
 
- improved CW decode at all AGC settings
- support for KAT500 antenna switching from the K3
- bug fixes related to remote rig communications (K3/0)
 
 There have also been many requests for minor changes, some of which  
 I'll be adding. I can't say yet which ones will make the next cut.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
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[Elecraft] K3 and Expert Amp

2012-09-21 Thread Gary Slagel
 I'm looking at the SPE Expert Amp 1K-FA.  The SPE amps both recommend using an 
ALC connection to automatically control the radio's output power thus 
preventing amplifier overdrive.

I talked to an SPE rep and I understood him to say that I couldn't use the ALC 
connection with a K3 and there was an alternative way to allow the SPE to 
control the K3 output power by manually configuring the SPE to set the K3 
output power on a band by band basis.  I looked at the SPE manual and it 
outlines a method to set up a flex-radio that does not have the ALC connection 
but doesn't talk about the K3.  I assume the k3 setup would be the same as for 
the flex-radio.  

Does anyone have experience with setting this up with the K3 and SPE 1K-FA.  
Or, experience using the K3 ext ALC with and SPE? 

Thanks,
 
Gary Slagel
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Expert Amp

2012-09-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gary,

SPE has some misconception that their ALC is fast enough that the 
amplifier will not be overdriven - they do instruct the user to set the 
drive power to maximum and let the amplifier control the drive.

That just does not make sense to me - by the time the amplifier detects 
that it is being overdriven, the distortion has already occurred, and 
then it takes a finite length of time for the amp to increase the ALC 
and throttle back the driving power.  I just don't understand how that 
can work in either zero or negative time to prevent distortion.

I would suggest you drive the SPE amps just like any other - adjust the 
drive power to produce the desired power output on each band (yes, the 
K3 will remember the drive power on a per band basis). That way, the 
amplifier is never driven into the ALC region, and no distortion occurs.

The ALC line can be connected just in case there is some fault - the 
amplifier can reduce the drive level to protect itself.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/21/2012 12:37 PM, Gary Slagel wrote:
   I'm looking at the SPE Expert Amp 1K-FA.  The SPE amps both recommend using 
 an ALC connection to automatically control the radio's output power thus 
 preventing amplifier overdrive.

 I talked to an SPE rep and I understood him to say that I couldn't use the 
 ALC connection with a K3 and there was an alternative way to allow the SPE to 
 control the K3 output power by manually configuring the SPE to set the K3 
 output power on a band by band basis.  I looked at the SPE manual and it 
 outlines a method to set up a flex-radio that does not have the ALC 
 connection but doesn't talk about the K3.  I assume the k3 setup would be the 
 same as for the flex-radio.

 Does anyone have experience with setting this up with the K3 and SPE 1K-FA.  
 Or, experience using the K3 ext ALC with and SPE?



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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

How about allowing use of the FM filter for AM and ESSB transmit?

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 9/21/2012 11:11 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Can I ask ELECRAFT what's next on the list for the K3 firmware
 improvements we can expect...

 Hi Gordan,

 Best guess:

 - improved CW decode at all AGC settings
 - support for KAT500 antenna switching from the K3
 - bug fixes related to remote rig communications (K3/0)

 There have also been many requests for minor changes, some of which
 I'll be adding. I can't say yet which ones will make the next cut.

 73,
 Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Preamp shuts itself off

2012-09-21 Thread Edward R Cole
At 01:09 AM 9/21/2012, Josh Lehan wrote:
On 09/21/2012 12:23 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
  I have been running my KX3 as 28-MHz IF for my 144-28 transverter and
  the transverter is a little gain deficient in Rx so I turn on the
  preamp in the KX3 too boost the level a tad.  Unfortunately after a
  few minutes the preamp shuts off by itself.  KX3 is sitting in Rx
  monitoring a 2m FM frequency (29.210+116=145.210).
 
  I had the preamp set to 30-dB gain so thought maybe that was
  overloading the receiver and the radio automatically adjusted for
  overdriving.  So I set the preamp to 10-dB gain.  It still shuts off
  by itself after a few minutes.
 
  Anyone see this happening?
  73, Ed - KL7UW

I've seen that happen as well.  If I have the preamp on, and tune a
strong nearby station in the AM broadcast band, a little message like
HI SIGNAL (I forgot the exact wording) will appear, and the preamp
will turn itself off.  Good thing, IMO, if it protects against
overloading the receiver.  It's easy to turn back on again, simply hit PRE.

The message only flashes for a few seconds, so it's easy to miss.  I
kind of wish that alerts/warnings like this would stay on the screen
longer, or at least until a control is pressed, so that they're not
missed if the radio isn't actively being looked at right at that moment.

Josh
KJ6PVN


Josh if the signal were s9+40 I would agree with that, but the signal 
just barely shows S1 flickering and not full quieting.  The preamp 
should not trip in that condition else it is not usable for any 
signal.  Use on 10m and 6m is necessary for good sensitivity.  BTW 
when I run the transverter on my K3 I see a signal of S9, so the KX3 
appears considerably less sensitive on 28-MHz.  This is comparing by 
looking the same IRLP node only 15-miles away which exhibits a stable 
FM signal.  That is why I wish to run the preamp.  Monitoring a FM 
channel should not require the operator to stare at the radio with 
finger poised to push the PRE button.

I'll run a comparative test using -107 dBm from my XG3.  It shows S4 
when using the 144-28 transverter with the K3 (28-MHz with no preamp engaged).

73, Ed- KL7UW


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Expert Amp

2012-09-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/21/2012 9:37 AM, Gary Slagel wrote:
   I'm looking at the SPE Expert Amp 1K-FA.  The SPE amps both recommend using 
 an ALC connection to automatically control the radio's output power thus 
 preventing amplifier overdrive.

It is NEVER a good idea to use ALC to set drive level to a power amp. 
Doing so is a recipe for distortion, key clicks, and splatter. ALWAYS 
control the amplifier output power by setting the POWER OUTPUT of the 
transceiver so that the transceiver produces just enough output power to 
get the desired power from the amplifier.

IF you want to use ALC, use it ONLY to protect the power amp from 
failures in the antenna system.  Think of it as belt and suspenders.  
FWIW, I've NEVER used ALC between any rig and amp that I've owned or 
operated.

Modern amplifiers do NOT need ALC -- indeed, modern includes my 
vintage Ten Tec Titan power amps that were designed in the late '70s and 
built well into the '80s. The manual notes that although an ALC output 
is provided for compatibility with older rigs, it should not be used 
except as I've described.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] K3 and Expert 1K-FA

2012-09-21 Thread Hans H Vollmer
Hi Gary,

I'm using since more than thee years the combination  K3 - Expert 1K-FA.

*I never use the ALC-connection*, but of course the band-information. 
That is more importand

As Don said this would cause distortion at the beginning af each 
transmission.

I simply adjust the K3-Power-Gain to 15 to 20 watts.

If You schould forget the powersetting, no problem, the Expert switches 
down, gives a warning signal
and a diagnosis on its display.

I'm very content with that nice PA. btw it works well also with my 
beloved K2 (with KRC2).

The KX3 is still not tested, hi

Best wishes de Hans

(K2 #7029; K3 #536, KX3 #478)
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[Elecraft] KX3 and MicroHam USB Interface III works very well! :-)

2012-09-21 Thread Martin Storli - LA8OKA
Yesterday I put together an interface cable to interface the KX3 to my MicroHam 
USB Interface III.
The results turned out to be very good, the MicroHam USB III works very well 
with my KX3.
I have posted the wiring diagram here:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/-gDPTphLWxyg/UFyZpnZ7pMI/ErA/X9TueMFXJO0/s1600-h/DB15-EL-KX3_Cable%25255B13%25255D.jpg
I had to made the interface cable myself because MicroHAM does not make a cable 
for the KX3.
 
(If for some reason you're not able to view the drawing, you may go in and 
click the drawing on my Norwegian blog page: 
http://arcticpeak.blogspot.no/2012/09/interfacekabler-for-elecraft-kx3-og.html )
 
The MicroHAM USB Interface III is a nice litle interface for voice, CW and 
digimode with a built-in USB soundcard. 
The MicroHAM USB Interface III also provides control (frequency, mode, etc) of 
the transceiver and PTT, all with one USB cable to the PC.
http://microham.com/contents/en-us/d158.html

Martin Storli 
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[Elecraft] KX3 adapter cable for the Heil Traveler Headset.

2012-09-21 Thread Martin Storli - LA8OKA
Yesterday, I made an adapter cable to be able to use my Heil Traveler headset 
with my KX3.
I have posted the wiring diagram here:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/-7TuJJ03MHEY/UFyXN12NkuI/Epc/06m5AVkwSas/s1600-h/HEIL_Traveler_EL-KX3_Cable10.jpg
 
(If for some reason you're not able to view the drawing, you may go in and 
click the drawing on my Norwegian blog page: 
http://arcticpeak.blogspot.no/2012/09/adapterkabel-for-heil-traveler-headset.html )
 
The Heil Traveler headset worked very well with the KX3! :-)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Expert Amp

2012-09-21 Thread Richard Squire - HB9ANM
Spot on, Jim!
I have NEVER used ALC with any PA. BTW, most ACOM amps for instance do not
have an ALC output - they must know why! Misuse of ALC is the cause of many
bad (not to say horrible) signals we hear on the bands...
It's so easy to reduce input power... And my K3/KPA500 combo does it
automatically.

73
Richard - HB9ANM


Jim Brown-10 wrote
 On 9/21/2012 9:37 AM, Gary Slagel wrote:
 It is NEVER a good idea to use ALC to set drive level to a power amp. 
 Doing so is a recipe for distortion, key clicks, and splatter. ALWAYS 
 control the amplifier output power by setting the POWER OUTPUT of the 
 transceiver so that the transceiver produces just enough output power to 
 get the desired power from the amplifier.






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[Elecraft] (Elecraft) XG3 RF generator software port selection

2012-09-21 Thread Nels Nelsen
Has any one gotten the XG3 RF generator to talk to a laptop just thru a USB
port? I am useing a Windows XP laptop which does not have the old style
com-port 1 with a db-9 connector, it just has the modern USB ports. I am
wondering If I don't have a problem with the USB driver.
When I start up the software that comes with the generator, there is no
selection of a port available in the  select this port  portion of the
windows software.
Has any one found a cure for this?
Thanks,
nels nelsen
NE7LS
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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Gary Gregory
*Joe,

I have to ask, why?

In VK we have a 3Khz SSB BW written into our LCD's and yet some folks
consume 10Khz out here on a net which tears up a considerable amount of
spectrum.

What advantage do you see to widen the ESSB?

Not sure I follow your thoughts here, hence the question Joe.

73
*
On 22 September 2012 03:10, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 How about allowing use of the FM filter for AM and ESSB transmit?

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


 On 9/21/2012 11:11 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
  Can I ask ELECRAFT what's next on the list for the K3 firmware
  improvements we can expect...
 
  Hi Gordan,
 
  Best guess:
 
  - improved CW decode at all AGC settings
  - support for KAT500 antenna switching from the K3
  - bug fixes related to remote rig communications (K3/0)
 
  There have also been many requests for minor changes, some of which
  I'll be adding. I can't say yet which ones will make the next cut.
 
  73,
  Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Joshua Mesilane
Originally sent direct, was meant for the list.


Actually, we can run up to 8khz bandwidth, with the exception of 16Khz in
the FM segment of 10m, and of course the very very low band. The rules do
change above 10M though depending on your license class. What this means is
you can actually, legally run 6Khz wide AM on HF.

I'm looking at the Amateur LCD right now. It's a common misconception that
you can only run 3KHz on HF in VK

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On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Joe,

 I have to ask, why?

 In VK we have a 3Khz SSB BW written into our LCD's and yet some folks
 consume 10Khz out here on a net which tears up a considerable amount of
 spectrum.

 What advantage do you see to widen the ESSB?

 Not sure I follow your thoughts here, hence the question Joe.

 73
 *
 On 22 September 2012 03:10, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:

 
  How about allowing use of the FM filter for AM and ESSB transmit?
 
  73,
 
  ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
  On 9/21/2012 11:11 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
   Can I ask ELECRAFT what's next on the list for the K3 firmware
   improvements we can expect...
  
   Hi Gordan,
  
   Best guess:
  
   - improved CW decode at all AGC settings
   - support for KAT500 antenna switching from the K3
   - bug fixes related to remote rig communications (K3/0)
  
   There have also been many requests for minor changes, some of which
   I'll be adding. I can't say yet which ones will make the next cut.
  
   73,
   Wayne
   N6KR
  
  
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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Al Lorona
I don't know the motivation for the FM filter request, but I will say that here 
in the US there are vast expanses of the bands that are mostly unused. For 
instance, night after night there isn't a single station between 3600 and 3700 
kHz here on the west coast. As another data point, I just counted the number of 
stations currently operating between 28300 and 28500 kHz: a total of 4. Under 
conditions like these I see no harm in allowing the ESSB stations to 
experiment. 


Al  W6LX







*Joe,

I have to ask, why?
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Intermittent changes in audio gain

2012-09-21 Thread Keith Heimbold
Matt 

That's exactly what has happened I saw the high current flash I didn't see it 
before because I was driving but I just saw it now so I think there's a 
positive correlation.

Thank you very much for the insight!

Keith
AG6AZ

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On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote:

 The KX3 probably detected a HI CUR condition.  This can happen because
 of high (or low) PS voltage due to automotive electrical fluctuations.
 Sometimes this can happen because of ground current with the antenna
 connected, so check this for a positive correlation.
 
 You should not see HI CUR while on the KX3's internal batteries.  This
 proves the automotive supply is caused it.
 
 When the KX3 sees HI CUR (usually something higher than 300 mA on RX),
 it will flash that HI CUR message on VFO A.  If the condition
 persists, it will drop the AF gain to some predetermined value.  If
 the condition continues beyond that point, the KX3 will shut itself
 off to protect itself.  In my own case, both the AF gain and
 self-shutdown events were happening.  HI CUR is preventable in a
 mobile setting - see below.
 
 I produced a pretty good document on KX3 mobile ops, which I'm about
 to add to.  It's posted on the Elecraft web site at
 http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#kx3_mobile.
 
 Keith, I saw that same type of problem while mobile with KX3 #6 right
 up until I installed a DC-DC converter.  See the doc for details of
 all that.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 KX3 #6, K3 #24, etc.
 
 On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:45:18 -0700, you wrote:
 
 I had this happen to me during mobile operations and not sure why either. 
 Signals dropped right out and then when I turned off the radio for a few 
 minutes and when i turned on the KX3  it went back to where it was prior and 
 remained that way.
 
 I will keep an eye on it to see if it happens again. 
 
 Keith
 AG6AZ
 
 Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kevin Luxford elelist...@elitemail.org 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 My KX3 has just developed an apparent fault - the audio level changes 
 abruptly every few seconds from a comfortable listening level to quiet, 
 but still audible.
 
 I am using my Proset headphones.
 
 Any thoughts on where I should start looking?  I am nervous about poking 
 around surface mount circuits!
 
 vy 73
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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

  On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
  I have to ask, why?

Using the FM filter does no widen ESSB or AM ... the bandwidth of
those modes is determined by the DSP modulator.  The only thing
the 8.215 MHz crystal filter does is to provide some additional
protection against transmitting the 8.245 MHz image (and according
to Wayne, provide some additional rejection of very low level
DSP/mixer noise).  In any case, the 13 KHz filter is *still* tight
enough to eliminate the image - else it could not be used on FM
either.

In my case, the K3's main RX is full of filters - 13 KHz, 2.8,
1.8, 400 and 200.  I can not use AM or ESSB (if I wanted to) without
telling the K3 that the 13 KHz filter is really 6 KHz wide.  That
seems to be a significant headache and makes either FM or AM/ESSB
unusable for those who, like me, have a full K3.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 9/21/2012 5:11 PM, Joshua Mesilane wrote:
 Originally sent direct, was meant for the list.


 Actually, we can run up to 8khz bandwidth, with the exception of 16Khz in
 the FM segment of 10m, and of course the very very low band. The rules do
 change above 10M though depending on your license class. What this means is
 you can actually, legally run 6Khz wide AM on HF.

 I'm looking at the Amateur LCD right now. It's a common misconception that
 you can only run 3KHz on HF in VK

 ---
 VK3XJM
 0416039082
 j...@zindello.com.au
 http://www.zindello.com.au/



 On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Joe,

 I have to ask, why?

 In VK we have a 3Khz SSB BW written into our LCD's and yet some folks
 consume 10Khz out here on a net which tears up a considerable amount of
 spectrum.

 What advantage do you see to widen the ESSB?

 Not sure I follow your thoughts here, hence the question Joe.

 73
 *
 On 22 September 2012 03:10, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 How about allowing use of the FM filter for AM and ESSB transmit?

 73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


 On 9/21/2012 11:11 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Can I ask ELECRAFT what's next on the list for the K3 firmware
 improvements we can expect...

 Hi Gordan,

 Best guess:

  - improved CW decode at all AGC settings
  - support for KAT500 antenna switching from the K3
  - bug fixes related to remote rig communications (K3/0)

 There have also been many requests for minor changes, some of which
 I'll be adding. I can't say yet which ones will make the next cut.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) XG3 RF generator software port selection

2012-09-21 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hi Nels, 

If you want to use the XG3 with a USB port you'll need to order the KXUSB
cable from Elecraft.  This has a USB connector on one end and a 3.5mm stereo
male plug on the other.  The XG3 utility DOES have the ability to change com
ports. Bring up the utility and click on the PORT tab, then click the drop
down and select the appropriate port. 

If you have the KXUSB adapter and want to change the port that Windows
associates with it, follow these steps: 
1) Click on Start, Control Panel, Device Manager. 
2) Expand the PORTS by clicking on the arrow to the left. 
3) Locate the device you want to change and right click on it. 
4) Select PROPERTIES, and click on the ADVANCED button. 
From here you can simply change the com port number using the drop down COM
PORT NUMBER. 

73, 

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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
The poster who made that request has made it before.
Actually, the width of the transmitted signal should be controlled in 
the DSP, so Joe does have a point, but the designers at Elecraft are not 
ready to let go of the bandwidth safety net provided by the 6 kHz filter.
Other SDR transmitters can generate AM and ESSB (and FM too) with no 
roofing filters at all, so it is possible to control the width using 
only the DSP.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/21/2012 5:21 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
 I don't know the motivation for the FM filter request, but I will say that 
 here
 in the US there are vast expanses of the bands that are mostly unused. For
 instance, night after night there isn't a single station between 3600 and 3700
 kHz here on the west coast. As another data point, I just counted the number 
 of
 stations currently operating between 28300 and 28500 kHz: a total of 4. Under
 conditions like these I see no harm in allowing the ESSB stations to
 experiment.


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[Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Adrian
I see Joe's point exactly to enable the 13k filter for more diverse usage,
which would suit me perfectly instead of 'tricking' the K3 or am/fm use not
just FM. The ESSB is just another thing it does, but the AM is what I want
also.

 

These last few messages are not being propagated (to me anyhow) from the
mail sever also. Picked up this on the online list.

 


-

*Joe,

 

I have to ask, why?

 

In VK we have a 3Khz SSB BW written into our LCD's and yet some folks

consume 10Khz out here on a net which tears up a considerable amount of

spectrum.

 

What advantage do you see to widen the ESSB?

 

Not sure I follow your thoughts here, hence the question Joe.

 

73

*

On 22 September 2012 03:10, Joe Subich, W4TV 
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wrote:

 

 

 How about allowing use of the FM filter for AM and ESSB transmit?

 

 73,

 

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Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) XG3 RF generator software port selection

2012-09-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
Nels,

You mention software that comes with the generator  Would that be the 
XG3 Utility?  If you do not have XG3 Utility, download it from the 
Elecraft website.

Separately, you must have a driver for your USB to serial adapter. That 
adapter is the same one that is shipped with the KX3, and you should go 
to the FTDI website to download the latest driver.  There is a link on 
the Elecraft website for that.

It is helpful to remember that the adapter for the XG3 and the KX3 are 
the same.  Get the driver, and then open XG3 Utility.  I am thinking 
(but don't know for sure) that you may have no com ports configured on 
your laptop, so there are no COM ports available to show in XG3 
Utility.  add the drivers for the USB adapters first. BTW, they will 
first recognize the driver for the FTDI chip, and then Windoze will want 
to load a driver for a Serial Port - you must do both.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/21/2012 4:37 PM, Nels Nelsen wrote:
 Has any one gotten the XG3 RF generator to talk to a laptop just thru a USB
 port? I am useing a Windows XP laptop which does not have the old style
 com-port 1 with a db-9 connector, it just has the modern USB ports. I am
 wondering If I don't have a problem with the USB driver.
 When I start up the software that comes with the generator, there is no
 selection of a port available in the  select this port  portion of the
 windows software.


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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Thomas Horsten
Hi Gary,

The point is not to widen the SSB but to use the FM crystal filter to limit
it. The DSP does the actual shaping of the TX signal which will still be
the same width regardless of whether you're using the 6kHz filter or the
12.5kHz FM one.

The idea is to be able to use the FM filter for AM and ESSB as well instead
of filling up two precious filter slots, when what you may want/need are
closer filters on the low end (say, 400 and 200 Hz).

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 21 September 2012 22:00, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joe,

 I have to ask, why?

 In VK we have a 3Khz SSB BW written into our LCD's and yet some folks
 consume 10Khz out here on a net which tears up a considerable amount of
 spectrum.

 What advantage do you see to widen the ESSB?

 Not sure I follow your thoughts here, hence the question Joe.

 73

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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Gary Gregory
*Hi Joe,

Thanks for the explanation. I can now 'see' what you meant and it does seem
logical.

I too have all 5 filter slots in use.

'Learning all the time'...:-)

73's Joe and thanks again.


*
On 22 September 2012 07:37, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


   On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   I have to ask, why?

 Using the FM filter does no widen ESSB or AM ... the bandwidth of
 those modes is determined by the DSP modulator.  The only thing
 the 8.215 MHz crystal filter does is to provide some additional
 protection against transmitting the 8.245 MHz image (and according
 to Wayne, provide some additional rejection of very low level
 DSP/mixer noise).  In any case, the 13 KHz filter is *still* tight
 enough to eliminate the image - else it could not be used on FM
 either.

 In my case, the K3's main RX is full of filters - 13 KHz, 2.8,
 1.8, 400 and 200.  I can not use AM or ESSB (if I wanted to) without
 telling the K3 that the 13 KHz filter is really 6 KHz wide.  That
 seems to be a significant headache and makes either FM or AM/ESSB
 unusable for those who, like me, have a full K3.

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


 On 9/21/2012 5:11 PM, Joshua Mesilane wrote:
  Originally sent direct, was meant for the list.
 
 
  Actually, we can run up to 8khz bandwidth, with the exception of 16Khz in
  the FM segment of 10m, and of course the very very low band. The rules do
  change above 10M though depending on your license class. What this means
 is
  you can actually, legally run 6Khz wide AM on HF.
 
  I'm looking at the Amateur LCD right now. It's a common misconception
 that
  you can only run 3KHz on HF in VK
 
  ---
  VK3XJM
  0416039082
  j...@zindello.com.au
  http://www.zindello.com.au/
 
 
 
  On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  *Joe,
 
  I have to ask, why?
 
  In VK we have a 3Khz SSB BW written into our LCD's and yet some folks
  consume 10Khz out here on a net which tears up a considerable amount of
  spectrum.
 
  What advantage do you see to widen the ESSB?
 
  Not sure I follow your thoughts here, hence the question Joe.
 
  73
  *
  On 22 September 2012 03:10, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
 
 
  How about allowing use of the FM filter for AM and ESSB transmit?
 
  73,
 
   ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
  On 9/21/2012 11:11 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
  Can I ask ELECRAFT what's next on the list for the K3 firmware
  improvements we can expect...
 
  Hi Gordan,
 
  Best guess:
 
   - improved CW decode at all AGC settings
   - support for KAT500 antenna switching from the K3
   - bug fixes related to remote rig communications (K3/0)
 
  There have also been many requests for minor changes, some of which
  I'll be adding. I can't say yet which ones will make the next cut.
 
  73,
  Wayne
  N6KR
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) XG3 RF generator software port selection

2012-09-21 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Another thing to be aware of is that the COM Port generally won't show in
the Device Manager or XG3 Utility until the USB device is physically plugged
into a USB hub on the computer and the appropriate drivers are located by
the Operating System.  

If you've already started the XG3 Utility and plug in the USB device after
the program has started, there is a refresh button on the Port page that
causes the XG3 Utility to again ask the Windows OS for its list of COM
ports.  The list of COM ports in the Port tab's drop-down combo box comes
from the Operating System's inventory of COM ports.

Dick, K6KR


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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:00 PM
To: Nels Nelsen
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) XG3 RF generator software port selection

Nels,

You mention software that comes with the generator  Would that be the
XG3 Utility?  If you do not have XG3 Utility, download it from the Elecraft
website.

Separately, you must have a driver for your USB to serial adapter. That
adapter is the same one that is shipped with the KX3, and you should go to
the FTDI website to download the latest driver.  There is a link on the
Elecraft website for that.

It is helpful to remember that the adapter for the XG3 and the KX3 are the
same.  Get the driver, and then open XG3 Utility.  I am thinking (but don't
know for sure) that you may have no com ports configured on your laptop, so
there are no COM ports available to show in XG3 Utility.  add the drivers
for the USB adapters first. BTW, they will first recognize the driver for
the FTDI chip, and then Windoze will want to load a driver for a Serial Port
- you must do both.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/21/2012 4:37 PM, Nels Nelsen wrote:
 Has any one gotten the XG3 RF generator to talk to a laptop just thru 
 a USB port? I am useing a Windows XP laptop which does not have the 
 old style com-port 1 with a db-9 connector, it just has the modern USB 
 ports. I am wondering If I don't have a problem with the USB driver.
 When I start up the software that comes with the generator, there is 
 no selection of a port available in the  select this port  portion 
 of the windows software.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Preamp shuts itself off

2012-09-21 Thread Matt Maguire
The S-meter only reads the strength of the signals falling within the DSP 
passband. There may be other strong signals hitting the ADC outside the DSP 
passband, and these won't show on your S-meter.

73, Matt VK2ACL



On 22/09/2012, at 3:18 AM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:

 At 01:09 AM 9/21/2012, Josh Lehan wrote:
 On 09/21/2012 12:23 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
 I have been running my KX3 as 28-MHz IF for my 144-28 transverter and
 the transverter is a little gain deficient in Rx so I turn on the
 preamp in the KX3 too boost the level a tad.  Unfortunately after a
 few minutes the preamp shuts off by itself.  KX3 is sitting in Rx
 monitoring a 2m FM frequency (29.210+116=145.210).
 
 I had the preamp set to 30-dB gain so thought maybe that was
 overloading the receiver and the radio automatically adjusted for
 overdriving.  So I set the preamp to 10-dB gain.  It still shuts off
 by itself after a few minutes.
 
 Anyone see this happening?
 73, Ed - KL7UW
 
 I've seen that happen as well.  If I have the preamp on, and tune a
 strong nearby station in the AM broadcast band, a little message like
 HI SIGNAL (I forgot the exact wording) will appear, and the preamp
 will turn itself off.  Good thing, IMO, if it protects against
 overloading the receiver.  It's easy to turn back on again, simply hit PRE.
 
 The message only flashes for a few seconds, so it's easy to miss.  I
 kind of wish that alerts/warnings like this would stay on the screen
 longer, or at least until a control is pressed, so that they're not
 missed if the radio isn't actively being looked at right at that moment.
 
 Josh
 KJ6PVN
 
 
 Josh if the signal were s9+40 I would agree with that, but the signal 
 just barely shows S1 flickering and not full quieting.  The preamp 
 should not trip in that condition else it is not usable for any 
 signal.  Use on 10m and 6m is necessary for good sensitivity.  BTW 
 when I run the transverter on my K3 I see a signal of S9, so the KX3 
 appears considerably less sensitive on 28-MHz.  This is comparing by 
 looking the same IRLP node only 15-miles away which exhibits a stable 
 FM signal.  That is why I wish to run the preamp.  Monitoring a FM 
 channel should not require the operator to stare at the radio with 
 finger poised to push the PRE button.
 
 I'll run a comparative test using -107 dBm from my XG3.  It shows S4 
 when using the 144-28 transverter with the K3 (28-MHz with no preamp engaged).
 
 73, Ed- KL7UW
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
The 6 kHz filter band-limits the transmit noise originating from the  
DAC and the transmit mixer to a bandwidth appropriate for AM and ESSB  
modes. The 15 kHz filter would allow a noise bandwidth over twice as  
wide.

This in-band noise pedestal could be 20-30 dB above the normal  
transmit noise floor if you were using a lot of mic gain and/or  
compression. If you were using high power in these modes, your signal  
would now be much more likely to bring up the receive noise floor at  
nearby stations.

Do you really want to create a 15-kHz wide swath of broadband noise  
when using ESSB or AM?

I don't. That's why I haven't modified the code to allow use of the FM  
filter for this purpose. I suppose it could be YAMU (yet another menu  
entry), forcing you to do at least a minimum amount of soul-searching  
before going broadband :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Thomas Horsten wrote:

 Hi Gary,

 The point is not to widen the SSB but to use the FM crystal filter  
 to limit
 it. The DSP does the actual shaping of the TX signal which will  
 still be
 the same width regardless of whether you're using the 6kHz filter or  
 the
 12.5kHz FM one.

 The idea is to be able to use the FM filter for AM and ESSB as well  
 instead
 of filling up two precious filter slots, when what you may want/need  
 are
 closer filters on the low end (say, 400 and 200 Hz).

 73, Thomas M0TRN

 On 21 September 2012 22:00, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joe,

 I have to ask, why?

 In VK we have a 3Khz SSB BW written into our LCD's and yet some folks
 consume 10Khz out here on a net which tears up a considerable  
 amount of
 spectrum.

 What advantage do you see to widen the ESSB?

 Not sure I follow your thoughts here, hence the question Joe.

 73

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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

  This in-band noise pedestal could be 20-30 dB above the normal
  transmit noise floor if you were using a lot of mic gain and/or
  compression. If you were using high power in these modes, your signal
  would now be much more likely to bring up the receive noise floor at
  nearby stations.

Is not this pedestal present in all modes?

What is its level below the transmitter PEP?

If it is a problem in AM with the FM filter, why is it not similarly
a problem in ESSB (3.0-4.0 KHz modes) with a 6 KHz wide filter?

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 9/21/2012 6:40 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 The 6 kHz filter band-limits the transmit noise originating from the
 DAC and the transmit mixer to a bandwidth appropriate for AM and ESSB
 modes. The 15 kHz filter would allow a noise bandwidth over twice as
 wide.

 This in-band noise pedestal could be 20-30 dB above the normal
 transmit noise floor if you were using a lot of mic gain and/or
 compression. If you were using high power in these modes, your signal
 would now be much more likely to bring up the receive noise floor at
 nearby stations.

 Do you really want to create a 15-kHz wide swath of broadband noise
 when using ESSB or AM?

 I don't. That's why I haven't modified the code to allow use of the FM
 filter for this purpose. I suppose it could be YAMU (yet another menu
 entry), forcing you to do at least a minimum amount of soul-searching
 before going broadband :)

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Thomas Horsten wrote:

 Hi Gary,

 The point is not to widen the SSB but to use the FM crystal filter
 to limit
 it. The DSP does the actual shaping of the TX signal which will
 still be
 the same width regardless of whether you're using the 6kHz filter or
 the
 12.5kHz FM one.

 The idea is to be able to use the FM filter for AM and ESSB as well
 instead
 of filling up two precious filter slots, when what you may want/need
 are
 closer filters on the low end (say, 400 and 200 Hz).

 73, Thomas M0TRN

 On 21 September 2012 22:00, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joe,

 I have to ask, why?

 In VK we have a 3Khz SSB BW written into our LCD's and yet some folks
 consume 10Khz out here on a net which tears up a considerable
 amount of
 spectrum.

 What advantage do you see to widen the ESSB?

 Not sure I follow your thoughts here, hence the question Joe.

 73

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Intermittent changes in audio gain

2012-09-21 Thread Matt Zilmer
Yup.  All you have to do is stabilize the power supply at the K3.  I
recommend a DC-DC converter for this.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:22:26 -0700, you wrote:

Matt 

That's exactly what has happened I saw the high current flash I didn't see it 
before because I was driving but I just saw it now so I think there's a 
positive correlation.

Thank you very much for the insight!

Keith
AG6AZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote:

 The KX3 probably detected a HI CUR condition.  This can happen because
 of high (or low) PS voltage due to automotive electrical fluctuations.
 Sometimes this can happen because of ground current with the antenna
 connected, so check this for a positive correlation.
 
 You should not see HI CUR while on the KX3's internal batteries.  This
 proves the automotive supply is caused it.
 
 When the KX3 sees HI CUR (usually something higher than 300 mA on RX),
 it will flash that HI CUR message on VFO A.  If the condition
 persists, it will drop the AF gain to some predetermined value.  If
 the condition continues beyond that point, the KX3 will shut itself
 off to protect itself.  In my own case, both the AF gain and
 self-shutdown events were happening.  HI CUR is preventable in a
 mobile setting - see below.
 
 I produced a pretty good document on KX3 mobile ops, which I'm about
 to add to.  It's posted on the Elecraft web site at
 http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#kx3_mobile.
 
 Keith, I saw that same type of problem while mobile with KX3 #6 right
 up until I installed a DC-DC converter.  See the doc for details of
 all that.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 KX3 #6, K3 #24, etc.
 
 On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:45:18 -0700, you wrote:
 
 I had this happen to me during mobile operations and not sure why either. 
 Signals dropped right out and then when I turned off the radio for a few 
 minutes and when i turned on the KX3  it went back to where it was prior 
 and remained that way.
 
 I will keep an eye on it to see if it happens again. 
 
 Keith
 AG6AZ
 
 Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kevin Luxford elelist...@elitemail.org 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 My KX3 has just developed an apparent fault - the audio level changes 
 abruptly every few seconds from a comfortable listening level to quiet, 
 but still audible.
 
 I am using my Proset headphones.
 
 Any thoughts on where I should start looking?  I am nervous about poking 
 around surface mount circuits!
 
 vy 73
 Kevin
 VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Intermittent changes in audio gain

2012-09-21 Thread Keith Heimbold
Any recommendation or specific brand or place to purchase one for a KX3. 
Appreciate the sharing of knowledge.

Thanks,

Keith
AG6AZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote:

 Yup.  All you have to do is stabilize the power supply at the K3.  I
 recommend a DC-DC converter for this.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 
 On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:22:26 -0700, you wrote:
 
 Matt 
 
 That's exactly what has happened I saw the high current flash I didn't see 
 it before because I was driving but I just saw it now so I think there's a 
 positive correlation.
 
 Thank you very much for the insight!
 
 Keith
 AG6AZ
 
 Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
 
 On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 The KX3 probably detected a HI CUR condition.  This can happen because
 of high (or low) PS voltage due to automotive electrical fluctuations.
 Sometimes this can happen because of ground current with the antenna
 connected, so check this for a positive correlation.
 
 You should not see HI CUR while on the KX3's internal batteries.  This
 proves the automotive supply is caused it.
 
 When the KX3 sees HI CUR (usually something higher than 300 mA on RX),
 it will flash that HI CUR message on VFO A.  If the condition
 persists, it will drop the AF gain to some predetermined value.  If
 the condition continues beyond that point, the KX3 will shut itself
 off to protect itself.  In my own case, both the AF gain and
 self-shutdown events were happening.  HI CUR is preventable in a
 mobile setting - see below.
 
 I produced a pretty good document on KX3 mobile ops, which I'm about
 to add to.  It's posted on the Elecraft web site at
 http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#kx3_mobile.
 
 Keith, I saw that same type of problem while mobile with KX3 #6 right
 up until I installed a DC-DC converter.  See the doc for details of
 all that.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 KX3 #6, K3 #24, etc.
 
 On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:45:18 -0700, you wrote:
 
 I had this happen to me during mobile operations and not sure why either. 
 Signals dropped right out and then when I turned off the radio for a few 
 minutes and when i turned on the KX3  it went back to where it was prior 
 and remained that way.
 
 I will keep an eye on it to see if it happens again. 
 
 Keith
 AG6AZ
 
 Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kevin Luxford elelist...@elitemail.org 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 My KX3 has just developed an apparent fault - the audio level changes 
 abruptly every few seconds from a comfortable listening level to quiet, 
 but still audible.
 
 I am using my Proset headphones.
 
 Any thoughts on where I should start looking?  I am nervous about poking 
 around surface mount circuits!
 
 vy 73
 Kevin
 VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread VE3GNO Daniel
Hi All,
 
I dream one day to see Elecraft building some kind of expansion slot to 
accomodate more filters. Now all my slots are filled, 200/400/2.1k/2.8k/FM x2 
for both RXs so no more free slots for AM or any other filter. I don't care too 
much abt AM filter but I would like to squeeze two more filters, maybe 
a 800 and 1.5k filter. Wayne, do you see technical possible to accomodate some 
sort of optional expansion filter slot? I am sure many of us will welcome such 
feature. If will ever be such an option but me on alpha/beta testing on top of 
your list.
 
Tnx and 73 de VE3GNO Daniel



 From: Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com
To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:19:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!
  
*Hi Joe,

Thanks for the explanation. I can now 'see' what you meant and it does seem
logical.

I too have all 5 filter slots in use.

'Learning all the time'...:-)

73's Joe and thanks again.


*
On 22 September 2012 07:37, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


   On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   I have to ask, why?

 Using the FM filter does no widen ESSB or AM ... the bandwidth of
 those modes is determined by the DSP modulator.  The only thing
 the 8.215 MHz crystal filter does is to provide some additional
 protection against transmitting the 8.245 MHz image (and according
 to Wayne, provide some additional rejection of very low level
 DSP/mixer noise).  In any case, the 13 KHz filter is *still* tight
 enough to eliminate the image - else it could not be used on FM
 either.

 In my case, the K3's main RX is full of filters - 13 KHz, 2.8,
 1.8, 400 and 200.  I can not use AM or ESSB (if I wanted to) without
 telling the K3 that the 13 KHz filter is really 6 KHz wide.  That
 seems to be a significant headache and makes either FM or AM/ESSB
 unusable for those who, like me, have a full K3.

 73,

     ... Joe, W4TV


 On 9/21/2012 5:11 PM, Joshua Mesilane wrote:
  Originally sent direct, was meant for the list.
 
 
  Actually, we can run up to 8khz bandwidth, with the exception of 16Khz in
  the FM segment of 10m, and of course the very very low band. The rules do
  change above 10M though depending on your license class. What this means
 is
  you can actually, legally run 6Khz wide AM on HF.
 
  I'm looking at the Amateur LCD right now. It's a common misconception
 that
  you can only run 3KHz on HF in VK
 
  ---
  VK3XJM
  0416039082
  j...@zindello.com.au
  http://www.zindello.com.au/
 
 
 
  On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  *Joe,
 
  I have to ask, why?
 
  In VK we have a 3Khz SSB BW written into our LCD's and yet some folks
  consume 10Khz out here on a net which tears up a considerable amount of
  spectrum.
 
  What advantage do you see to widen the ESSB?
 
  Not sure I follow your thoughts here, hence the question Joe.
 
  73
  *
  On 22 September 2012 03:10, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
 
 
  How about allowing use of the FM filter for AM and ESSB transmit?
 
  73,
 
       ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
  On 9/21/2012 11:11 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
  Can I ask ELECRAFT what's next on the list for the K3 firmware
  improvements we can expect...
 
  Hi Gordan,
 
  Best guess:
 
       - improved CW decode at all AGC settings
       - support for KAT500 antenna switching from the K3
       - bug fixes related to remote rig communications (K3/0)
 
  There have also been many requests for minor changes, some of which
  I'll be adding. I can't say yet which ones will make the next cut.
 
  73,
  Wayne
  N6KR
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) XG3 RF generator software port selection

2012-09-21 Thread GDanner
Nels,
I'm using the KXUSB USB interface that came with my KX3.
It works as advertised with my XG3 to the XG3 Utility.
I have used both chip-sets for USB interfaces in the past with my XP laptop 
so there was no driver downloads to deal with.
The XG3 Utility will list the available com ports and it is just a matter of 
finding the one that works. That will be the one that connects.
I would think it normal for the Utility to not list a com port if you did 
not yet have an USB to RS-232 interface. My laptop lists 2 com ports. The 
one for the P3/K3  the one for KX3 or XG3; both are USB to RS-232 - one 
DB-9 the other a mini-phone plug.
George
AI4VZ

-Original Message- 
From: Nels Nelsen

Has any one gotten the XG3 RF generator to talk to a laptop just thru a USB
port? I am useing a Windows XP laptop which does not have the old style
com-port 1 with a db-9 connector, it just has the modern USB ports. 

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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Thomas Horsten
Seconded. I would love to have room for an 1.0 (for digimodes) and 200
(weak/QRM CW) filter in addition to my lineup of FM, AM, 2.8, 2.1, and 400.

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 22 September 2012 00:38, VE3GNO Daniel yo3...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I dream one day to see Elecraft building some kind of expansion slot to
 accomodate more filters. Now all my slots are filled, 200/400/2.1k/2.8k/FM
 x2 for both RXs so no more free slots for AM or any other filter. I don't
 care too much abt AM filter but I would like to squeeze two more filters,
 maybe a 800 and 1.5k filter. Wayne, do you see technical possible to
 accomodate some sort of optional expansion filter slot? I am sure many of
 us will welcome such feature. If will ever be such an option but me on
 alpha/beta testing on top of your list.

 Tnx and 73 de VE3GNO Daniel

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Intermittent changes in audio gain

2012-09-21 Thread Matt Zilmer
There is one recommended in that doc I authored - the one posted on
the Elecraft manuals section.

73,
matt

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 16:24:43 -0700, you wrote:

Any recommendation or specific brand or place to purchase one for a KX3. 
Appreciate the sharing of knowledge.

Thanks,

Keith
AG6AZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote:

 Yup.  All you have to do is stabilize the power supply at the K3.  I
 recommend a DC-DC converter for this.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 
 On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:22:26 -0700, you wrote:
 
 Matt 
 
 That's exactly what has happened I saw the high current flash I didn't see 
 it before because I was driving but I just saw it now so I think there's a 
 positive correlation.
 
 Thank you very much for the insight!
 
 Keith
 AG6AZ
 
 Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
 
 On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 The KX3 probably detected a HI CUR condition.  This can happen because
 of high (or low) PS voltage due to automotive electrical fluctuations.
 Sometimes this can happen because of ground current with the antenna
 connected, so check this for a positive correlation.
 
 You should not see HI CUR while on the KX3's internal batteries.  This
 proves the automotive supply is caused it.
 
 When the KX3 sees HI CUR (usually something higher than 300 mA on RX),
 it will flash that HI CUR message on VFO A.  If the condition
 persists, it will drop the AF gain to some predetermined value.  If
 the condition continues beyond that point, the KX3 will shut itself
 off to protect itself.  In my own case, both the AF gain and
 self-shutdown events were happening.  HI CUR is preventable in a
 mobile setting - see below.
 
 I produced a pretty good document on KX3 mobile ops, which I'm about
 to add to.  It's posted on the Elecraft web site at
 http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#kx3_mobile.
 
 Keith, I saw that same type of problem while mobile with KX3 #6 right
 up until I installed a DC-DC converter.  See the doc for details of
 all that.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 KX3 #6, K3 #24, etc.
 
 On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:45:18 -0700, you wrote:
 
 I had this happen to me during mobile operations and not sure why either. 
 Signals dropped right out and then when I turned off the radio for a few 
 minutes and when i turned on the KX3  it went back to where it was prior 
 and remained that way.
 
 I will keep an eye on it to see if it happens again. 
 
 Keith
 AG6AZ
 
 Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kevin Luxford elelist...@elitemail.org 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 My KX3 has just developed an apparent fault - the audio level changes 
 abruptly every few seconds from a comfortable listening level to quiet, 
 but still audible.
 
 I am using my Proset headphones.
 
 Any thoughts on where I should start looking?  I am nervous about poking 
 around surface mount circuits!
 
 vy 73
 Kevin
 VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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[Elecraft] KPA500 Problem

2012-09-21 Thread Phillip Shepard
I put my new KPA500 (s/n 1057) together earlier this week and have been
loving it, although it has seen only light use so far.

However, that changed this afternoon.  I used it briefly on 40m LSB a few
hours ago and all was fine.  About 35w of drive for 550w out.  I just
retuned the antenna to the low end of the band, yielding a 1.0:1 SWR at the
K3 in the standby mode of the KPA500.  When I switched the amp to operate
and keyed the transmitter (tune control), the amp power LEDs jumped up to
about 500w and then went to 0.  Subsequent keying  show a very high SWR at
the K3 (65 to 99:1) and the K3 puts out no power as does the KPA500.  I
tried a dummy load with the same result.  If the amp is in standby mode the
K3 acts right and the power and SWR LEDs on the KPA500 act right (100w out
at a low SWR).  Putting the amp into operate mode acts like the input SWR is
very high.

I tried tightening up the cables at both ends (BTW, I am using the control
cable between the rig and amp for maximum integration, and the K3 knows to
reduce the power out when the amp is in operate).

I hope I am doing something wrong, and the fix is simple.  Any suggestions
of where to begin?  Thank you.

73,
Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Intermittent changes in audio gain

2012-09-21 Thread Matt Zilmer
We're on (anniversary) travel, but found the doc here on the laptop:

In Figure 2, take a close look at the KX3's DC power input.  The DC to
DC converter shown eliminates whatever power impurities remain at this
end of the interior DC branch circuit.  Being a boost-buck regulator,
the converter can accept a wide range of input voltages and produces a
steady 13.8VDC (adjustable).  The converter used in this example
installation is made by QSKJ (model QS-1212CCBA-80W).  In addition to
cleaning up the DC, the converter reduces voltage sag from the smaller
gauge interior wiring.  In order to prevent the converter from
introducing its own emissions, a Laird LFB174095 ferrite core was used
with 3 turns of the KX3's stock cable.  This killed all converter
emissions.

See
http://ca.picclick.com/DC-DC-Converter-QS-1212CCBA-80W-Power-Supply-251036051706.html.

73,
matt

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 16:24:43 -0700, you wrote:

Any recommendation or specific brand or place to purchase one for a KX3. 
Appreciate the sharing of knowledge.

Thanks,

Keith
AG6AZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote:

 Yup.  All you have to do is stabilize the power supply at the K3.  I
 recommend a DC-DC converter for this.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 
 On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:22:26 -0700, you wrote:
 
 Matt 
 
 That's exactly what has happened I saw the high current flash I didn't see 
 it before because I was driving but I just saw it now so I think there's a 
 positive correlation.
 
 Thank you very much for the insight!
 
 Keith
 AG6AZ
 
 Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
 
 On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 The KX3 probably detected a HI CUR condition.  This can happen because
 of high (or low) PS voltage due to automotive electrical fluctuations.
 Sometimes this can happen because of ground current with the antenna
 connected, so check this for a positive correlation.
 
 You should not see HI CUR while on the KX3's internal batteries.  This
 proves the automotive supply is caused it.
 
 When the KX3 sees HI CUR (usually something higher than 300 mA on RX),
 it will flash that HI CUR message on VFO A.  If the condition
 persists, it will drop the AF gain to some predetermined value.  If
 the condition continues beyond that point, the KX3 will shut itself
 off to protect itself.  In my own case, both the AF gain and
 self-shutdown events were happening.  HI CUR is preventable in a
 mobile setting - see below.
 
 I produced a pretty good document on KX3 mobile ops, which I'm about
 to add to.  It's posted on the Elecraft web site at
 http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#kx3_mobile.
 
 Keith, I saw that same type of problem while mobile with KX3 #6 right
 up until I installed a DC-DC converter.  See the doc for details of
 all that.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 KX3 #6, K3 #24, etc.
 
 On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 05:45:18 -0700, you wrote:
 
 I had this happen to me during mobile operations and not sure why either. 
 Signals dropped right out and then when I turned off the radio for a few 
 minutes and when i turned on the KX3  it went back to where it was prior 
 and remained that way.
 
 I will keep an eye on it to see if it happens again. 
 
 Keith
 AG6AZ
 
 Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kevin Luxford elelist...@elitemail.org 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 My KX3 has just developed an apparent fault - the audio level changes 
 abruptly every few seconds from a comfortable listening level to quiet, 
 but still audible.
 
 I am using my Proset headphones.
 
 Any thoughts on where I should start looking?  I am nervous about poking 
 around surface mount circuits!
 
 vy 73
 Kevin
 VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem

2012-09-21 Thread Scott Manthe
Is this behavior present on all bands or just 40 meters? You might try 
using the KPA500 without the control cable, as well.

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 9/21/12 8:01 PM, Phillip Shepard wrote:
 I put my new KPA500 (s/n 1057) together earlier this week and have been
 loving it, although it has seen only light use so far.

 However, that changed this afternoon.  I used it briefly on 40m LSB a few
 hours ago and all was fine.  About 35w of drive for 550w out.  I just
 retuned the antenna to the low end of the band, yielding a 1.0:1 SWR at the
 K3 in the standby mode of the KPA500.  When I switched the amp to operate
 and keyed the transmitter (tune control), the amp power LEDs jumped up to
 about 500w and then went to 0.  Subsequent keying  show a very high SWR at
 the K3 (65 to 99:1) and the K3 puts out no power as does the KPA500.  I
 tried a dummy load with the same result.  If the amp is in standby mode the
 K3 acts right and the power and SWR LEDs on the KPA500 act right (100w out
 at a low SWR).  Putting the amp into operate mode acts like the input SWR is
 very high.

 I tried tightening up the cables at both ends (BTW, I am using the control
 cable between the rig and amp for maximum integration, and the K3 knows to
 reduce the power out when the amp is in operate).

 I hope I am doing something wrong, and the fix is simple.  Any suggestions
 of where to begin?  Thank you.

 73,
 Phil, NS7P



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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
Maybe I'll put the feature in and let you be my guinea pig, Joe. One  
complaint about noise bandwidth and it comes back out ;)

Wayne


On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


 This in-band noise pedestal could be 20-30 dB above the normal
 transmit noise floor if you were using a lot of mic gain and/or
 compression. If you were using high power in these modes, your signal
 would now be much more likely to bring up the receive noise floor at
 nearby stations.

 It would seem that the same argument would be made against using the
 2.7 or 2.8 KHz filters for CW or digital modes that have a transmit
 bandwidth of 50 to 100 Hz.  Why generate an excessively wide 3 KHz  
 noise
 pedestal for CW or PSK31/63 or even FSK RTTY (300 Hz required)?

 This is all academic since it is easy - although very inconvenient -  
 to
 set FL1 BW to 6.00 with the FM filter to enable AM/ESSB and return it
 to 13.00 to go back to FM.

 The real issue is that any user with three narrow filters for SSB  
 and
 CW/Digital is precluded from using both FM and AM/ESSB without playing
 games with FL1 BW.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 9/21/2012 6:40 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 The 6 kHz filter band-limits the transmit noise originating from the
 DAC and the transmit mixer to a bandwidth appropriate for AM and ESSB
 modes. The 15 kHz filter would allow a noise bandwidth over twice as
 wide.

 This in-band noise pedestal could be 20-30 dB above the normal
 transmit noise floor if you were using a lot of mic gain and/or
 compression. If you were using high power in these modes, your signal
 would now be much more likely to bring up the receive noise floor at
 nearby stations.

 Do you really want to create a 15-kHz wide swath of broadband noise
 when using ESSB or AM?

 I don't. That's why I haven't modified the code to allow use of the  
 FM
 filter for this purpose. I suppose it could be YAMU (yet another menu
 entry), forcing you to do at least a minimum amount of soul-searching
 before going broadband :)

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Thomas Horsten wrote:

 Hi Gary,

 The point is not to widen the SSB but to use the FM crystal filter
 to limit
 it. The DSP does the actual shaping of the TX signal which will
 still be
 the same width regardless of whether you're using the 6kHz filter or
 the
 12.5kHz FM one.

 The idea is to be able to use the FM filter for AM and ESSB as well
 instead
 of filling up two precious filter slots, when what you may want/need
 are
 closer filters on the low end (say, 400 and 200 Hz).

 73, Thomas M0TRN

 On 21 September 2012 22:00, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

 Joe,

 I have to ask, why?

 In VK we have a 3Khz SSB BW written into our LCD's and yet some  
 folks
 consume 10Khz out here on a net which tears up a considerable
 amount of
 spectrum.

 What advantage do you see to widen the ESSB?

 Not sure I follow your thoughts here, hence the question Joe.

 73

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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Scott Manthe
My feeling is that if you have the 8 pole 2.8 kHz filter installed, the 
2.1 kHz filter is probably redundant for vast majority of applications.

73,
Scott, N9AA


 Seconded. I would love to have room for an 1.0 (for digimodes) and 200
 (weak/QRM CW) filter in addition to my lineup of FM, AM, 2.8, 2.1, and 400.

 73, Thomas M0TRN

 On 22 September 2012 00:38, VE3GNO Daniel yo3...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I dream one day to see Elecraft building some kind of expansion slot to
 accomodate more filters. Now all my slots are filled, 200/400/2.1k/2.8k/FM
 x2 for both RXs so no more free slots for AM or any other filter. I don't
 care too much abt AM filter but I would like to squeeze two more filters,
 maybe a 800 and 1.5k filter. Wayne, do you see technical possible to
 accomodate some sort of optional expansion filter slot? I am sure many of
 us will welcome such feature. If will ever be such an option but me on
 alpha/beta testing on top of your list.

 Tnx and 73 de VE3GNO Daniel


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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Adrian
I couldnt disagree more, I use the 2.1k most followed by the 1.8k in 
ssb. I never see/hear a need to go wider than 2.1k other than to 
appreciate Johnny Broadcasters new $1000 studio mic. I use the 2.8k std 
req for TX. On 22/09/2012 1:59, Scott Manthe wrote:  My feeling is that 
if you have the 8 pole 2.8 kHz filter installed, the  2.1 kHz filter is 
probably redundant for vast majority of applications.   73,  Scott, 
N9AASeconded. I would love to have room for an 1.0 (for 
digimodes) and 200  (weak/QRM CW) filter in addition to my lineup of 
FM, AM, 2.8, 2.1, and 400.   73, Thomas M0TRN   On 22 September 
2012 00:38, VE3GNO Danielyo3...@yahoo.com wrote:   Hi All,  
  I dream one day to see Elecraft building some kind of expansion 
slot to  accomodate more filters. Now all my slots are filled, 
200/400/2.1k/2.8k/FM  x2 for both RXs so no more free slots for AM or 
any other filter. I don't  care too much abt AM filter but I would 
like to squeeze two more filters,  maybe a 800 and 1.5k filter. 
Wayne, do you see technical possible to  accomodate some sort of 
optional expansion filter slot? I am sure many of  us will welcome 
such feature. If will ever be such an option but me on  alpha/beta 
testing on top of your list.   Tnx and 73 de VE3GNO Daniel   
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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Don Putnick
I would use the FM filter for AM receive and the AM filter for ESSB
receive. I used to do it all the time for listening to shortwave broadcasts
on my JRC NRD-535. If the are no adjacent channel signals, you get full
fidelity.

Don NA6Z
K3  KPA500

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Adrian vk4...@bigpond.com wrote:

 I see Joe's point exactly to enable the 13k filter for more diverse usage,
 which would suit me perfectly instead of 'tricking' the K3 or am/fm use not
 just FM. The ESSB is just another thing it does, but the AM is what I want
 also.

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Re: [Elecraft] New beta K3 firmware!

2012-09-21 Thread Don Putnick
Blush, I just read the other thread with the same subject line. I gotta
stop thinking IF filters. Yep, you'd need to play with the DSP bandwidth
too.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Don Putnick don.putnick.n...@gmail.comwrote:

 I would use the FM filter for AM receive and the AM filter for ESSB
 receive. I used to do it all the time for listening to shortwave broadcasts
 on my JRC NRD-535. If the are no adjacent channel signals, you get full
 fidelity.

 Don NA6Z
 K3  KPA500


 On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Adrian vk4...@bigpond.com wrote:

 I see Joe's point exactly to enable the 13k filter for more diverse usage,
 which would suit me perfectly instead of 'tricking' the K3 or am/fm use
 not
 just FM. The ESSB is just another thing it does, but the AM is what I want
 also.


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