Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options

2013-05-17 Thread mteberle
The Heil adapter for connecting a 1/8 plug to the 8-pin front panel jack is 
the AD-1-K.  I have my headset connected to the rear panel MIC connector and my 
computer sound card connected to the rear panel LINE-IN connector.  I have not 
had any problems with it other than forgetting to change the mode to DATA then 
wondering why I have no audio on the digital modes.  As others have mentioned, 
you may need to just turn off the MIC+LINE setting as this is how my K3 is set 
up.

73,
Mike KI0HA
- Original Message -
From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
To: Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:25:07 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options

Bill,

I would suggest that you can obtain a Heil Kenwood adapter that is used 
for the Elecraft ProSet-K2 (I forget the exact Heil designation) that 
will allow you to connect the CM500 mic - you will also need a 1/8 inch 
stereo female to 1/4 inch male adapter to match the headphone jack on 
the adapter.

If using that adapter, you would need to unplug the MH2 and plug in the 
CM500 (with the adapter) and adjust the mic gain.

OTOH, If you want to construct a box with a switch, that will work too.

In any case, I would suggest you turn off MIC+LINE unless you are also 
using a computer to send pre-recorded messages.

When you switch to digital modes, the mic sel should be set to LINE IN 
only - the audio input settings for SSB and digital modes are 
independent in the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 5/16/2013 7:35 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
 I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. Using 
 the MH2 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to FP.L bias in 
 the voice modes (AM, FM SSB,  CS) while MIC SEL is set to rP.L bias 
 for the DATA modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. This setup 
 works well using VOX for transmitter keying in DATA and manually 
 turning VOX off and using PTT when I run voice modes. (I'm mostly a 
 DATA A and AFSK A operator.)

 If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of the K3, 
 and change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between voice modes and 
 data mode no longer works. Noise in the shack keys the transmitter, 
 and I assume is added to the output signal -- not good.

 So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to build an 
 interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC connector to route 
 the audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can include a jack for a foot 
 switch to do PTT and set it up so the MH2 is also available. (Thanks 
 Don for the pointer to Universal Radio for the Mic connectors.)

 My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add buttons 
 to UP and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning the radio, but 
 what does the FUNCTION line do? And, can I parallel the Mic audio from 
 the CM500 and the MH2 or would it be better to switch them? (Fewer 
 switches and modes will make my wife, KI6SLX happier.)

 Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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[Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings

2013-05-17 Thread Michael Eberle
I've noticed strange behavior on both the W2 watt meter and a 
cross-needle meter when using my K3 on 2 meters.  Just curious if anyone 
has had problems like this?  In SSB mode, keying the mic without any 
audio causes the watt meter to show about 3 watts output power and 3:1 
SWR.  However If I hold the TUNE button and put out a carrier It shows 
the expected 7-10 Watts forward with normal low SWR.  It also appears to 
show normal readings while speaking into the mic, but goes to the 
unusual readings with in between audio peaks.


Thanks
Mike KI0HA
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings

2013-05-17 Thread Chad Wasinger
Mike - yes, I've seen the same thing. I can't put my finger on it either but 
when using the k144xv with my wattmeter, I have high SWR always. Normally I can 
still run the 5-7 watts into an amp without issues but there are times this 
high SWR trips things off.
Elecraft - it would be nice to finally understand what needs to be done to 
correct this issues. Very common among the users that are on SSB/CW, not so 
much FM. 

 Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 05:26:24 -0500
 From: mtebe...@mchsi.com
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings
 
 I've noticed strange behavior on both the W2 watt meter and a 
 cross-needle meter when using my K3 on 2 meters.  Just curious if anyone 
 has had problems like this?  In SSB mode, keying the mic without any 
 audio causes the watt meter to show about 3 watts output power and 3:1 
 SWR.  However If I hold the TUNE button and put out a carrier It shows 
 the expected 7-10 Watts forward with normal low SWR.  It also appears to 
 show normal readings while speaking into the mic, but goes to the 
 unusual readings with in between audio peaks.
 
 Thanks
 Mike KI0HA
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings

2013-05-17 Thread Michael Eberle
I have the same problem even running it with an amp.  I wondered if maybe 
somehow some of the 10M IF was coming through causing the meter to show SWR.  
But during modulation, the higher power 2 meter signal caused the meter to 
display correctly. 


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 Original message 
From: Chad Wasinger chadwasin...@outlook.com 
Date: 05/17/2013  7:12 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: mtebe...@mchsi.com,elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings 
 
Mike - yes, I've seen the same thing. I can't put my finger on it either but 
when using the k144xv with my wattmeter, I have high SWR always. Normally I can 
still run the 5-7 watts into an amp without issues but there are times this 
high SWR trips things off.

Elecraft - it would be nice to finally understand what needs to be done to 
correct this issues. Very common among the users that are on SSB/CW, not so 
much FM. 

 Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 05:26:24 -0500
 From: mtebe...@mchsi.com
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings
 
 I've noticed strange behavior on both the W2 watt meter and a 
 cross-needle meter when using my K3 on 2 meters. Just curious if anyone 
 has had problems like this? In SSB mode, keying the mic without any 
 audio causes the watt meter to show about 3 watts output power and 3:1 
 SWR. However If I hold the TUNE button and put out a carrier It shows 
 the expected 7-10 Watts forward with normal low SWR. It also appears to 
 show normal readings while speaking into the mic, but goes to the 
 unusual readings with in between audio peaks.
 
 Thanks
 Mike KI0HA
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings

2013-05-17 Thread John Lemay
I'm sure this issue was raised only a week or two ago - worth checking back
?

John G4ZTR


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Chad Wasinger
Sent: 17 May 2013 13:12
To: mtebe...@mchsi.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings

Mike - yes, I've seen the same thing. I can't put my finger on it either but
when using the k144xv with my wattmeter, I have high SWR always. Normally I
can still run the 5-7 watts into an amp without issues but there are times
this high SWR trips things off.
Elecraft - it would be nice to finally understand what needs to be done to
correct this issues. Very common among the users that are on SSB/CW, not so
much FM. 

 Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 05:26:24 -0500
 From: mtebe...@mchsi.com
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings
 
 I've noticed strange behavior on both the W2 watt meter and a 
 cross-needle meter when using my K3 on 2 meters.  Just curious if anyone 
 has had problems like this?  In SSB mode, keying the mic without any 
 audio causes the watt meter to show about 3 watts output power and 3:1 
 SWR.  However If I hold the TUNE button and put out a carrier It shows 
 the expected 7-10 Watts forward with normal low SWR.  It also appears to 
 show normal readings while speaking into the mic, but goes to the 
 unusual readings with in between audio peaks.
 
 Thanks
 Mike KI0HA
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[Elecraft] K3 no power output

2013-05-17 Thread Stephen Reichlyn

Hi, Don:

While using K3 (S/N 855) today, the power out of the K3 dropped to 
'0' in mid-sentence. I was putting out about 50 watts
driving an ACOM 2000A. I checked all the obvious things, short of 
resetting the rig. From the rig straight to a dummy load
(by passing the ACOM  amp, etc.) there is still zero output in all 
modes. I'm thinking that I might have popped the low output
(10W) finals since there is zero output (If I had popped the finals, 
I guess that I should still have 10w out).


Any ideas before I ship it back to the factory?

Cheers,
Steve Reichlyn AA4V
843-834-1616

PS the XV144 that you built for me works great.

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[Elecraft] Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Peter Hedberg
Is anyone at Dayton that can tell me what the K3 Dayton special is?  Ready
to purchase one but the factory didn't know what the special was and won't
take my order and said I had to be at Dayton to get the special.  I go to
Dayton every other year and this is my off year.   I guess I  should have
bought it at Visalia!

 

Thanks,

 

Pete - K7WTG

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[Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Howard Stephenson

Pete,
We'll be happy to take any order from you.
We just can't give you the Dayton Special unless you are there.

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[Elecraft] Looking for 8pin mic connector for my K2 data cable

2013-05-17 Thread Stephen Roberts
Anyone have one I could buy? I know I can get one at HRO but they want as much 
for shipping as the cost of 2 connectors. I checked my local RS and no luck 
there.

73
Steve
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[Elecraft] Ideal RTTY filter.

2013-05-17 Thread Brian Alsop

This comes from June 2013 QST page 59.

According to W7AY:

The ideal RTTY filter is 280 Hz wide.  Narrowing it further by 60 Hz 
doubles the error rate.


The article references:
http://www.w7ay.net/site/Technical/RTTY%20Transmit%20Filters/index.html

Which doesn't come out and say the above!  It's talking about transmit 
filters.  W7AY doesn't like uneven power in transmit tones either.


Anyhow this may confirm what has been said on this reflector. The 350 Hz 
(AKA 250 Hz) filter is probably the narrowest practical choice for RTTY.


73 de Brian/K3KO



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Re: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Harry White
Howard,

That sure seems like a massively unfair policy. There are many, many of us
who simply cannot afford to go to Dayton but would appreciate a discount
during the once-a-year  hamfest. 

So if you have money and can afford to go to Dayton, you get a cheaper price
for Elecraft products.

Wow.

Harry
K1RSA

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Howard Stephenson
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:57 PM
To: k7...@arrl.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

Pete,
We'll be happy to take any order from you.
We just can't give you the Dayton Special unless you are there.

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Elecraft Customer Support
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Re: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Jeff KB2M
Even though I'm not planning any Elecraft purchases in the near future I
agree this doesn't seem fair. Also, almost every major retailer has a
'Dayton discount' for the 3 days of the hamfest. I would think it would be
in Elecraft's best interest to extend the discount to the less fortunate who
can't go to Dayton, for whatever reason. 

73 Jeff kb2m


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Harry White
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 13:09 PM
To: 'Howard Stephenson'; k7...@arrl.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

Howard,

That sure seems like a massively unfair policy. There are many, many of us
who simply cannot afford to go to Dayton but would appreciate a discount
during the once-a-year  hamfest. 

So if you have money and can afford to go to Dayton, you get a cheaper price
for Elecraft products.

Wow.

Harry
K1RSA

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Howard Stephenson
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:57 PM
To: k7...@arrl.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

Pete,
We'll be happy to take any order from you.
We just can't give you the Dayton Special unless you are there.

--
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Elecraft Customer Support
(831) 763-4211 EXT 169
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Re: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Walter Underwood
The ARRL is doing the same thing with a renewal bonus. I tried to do it 
on-line, then went back and read their e-mail and it was for in-person renewals 
at Dayton.

wunder
K6WRU

On May 17, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Jeff KB2M wrote:

 Even though I'm not planning any Elecraft purchases in the near future I
 agree this doesn't seem fair. Also, almost every major retailer has a
 'Dayton discount' for the 3 days of the hamfest. I would think it would be
 in Elecraft's best interest to extend the discount to the less fortunate who
 can't go to Dayton, for whatever reason. 
 
 73 Jeff kb2m
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Harry White
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 13:09 PM
 To: 'Howard Stephenson'; k7...@arrl.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton
 
 Howard,
 
 That sure seems like a massively unfair policy. There are many, many of us
 who simply cannot afford to go to Dayton but would appreciate a discount
 during the once-a-year  hamfest. 
 
 So if you have money and can afford to go to Dayton, you get a cheaper price
 for Elecraft products.
 
 Wow.
 
 Harry
 K1RSA
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Howard Stephenson
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:57 PM
 To: k7...@arrl.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton
 
 Pete,
 We'll be happy to take any order from you.
 We just can't give you the Dayton Special unless you are there.
 
 --
 --
 73,  Howard Stephenson  K6IA
 Elecraft Customer Support
 (831) 763-4211 EXT 169
 --
 



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Re: [Elecraft] Dayton show specials

2013-05-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Howard wrote:

 We just can't give you the Dayton Special unless you are there.

I'd like to expand on this a bit.

We've been doing show specials at trade shows for many years, Dayton 
included. These small discounts are intended to create some excitement among 
attendees, hopefully resulting in more people stopping by to kick the tires on 
new and existing products. Also, to be frank, these sales incentives help us 
cover the very high costs of attending shows. We ship hundreds of pounds of 
Elecraft products to Dayton in order to satisfy on-site demand, and we always 
hope we don't have to send a lot of it back -- at equally high shipping rates.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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[Elecraft] No power out K3

2013-05-17 Thread Steve
Almost forgot...no receive either

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Re: [Elecraft] Looking for 8pin mic connector for my K2 data cable

2013-05-17 Thread w2bvh
At the radio shack web site there's 274-025 . Wh en I click to check stock at 
my local store it shows it in stock. 
Last time I needed one (about a year ago) I got it at RS. 

Give it a try for your locale 

73 
Lenny W2BVH 

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From: Stephen Roberts steve...@shoreham.net 
To: Elecraft Email elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 1:05:04 PM 
Subject: [Elecraft] Looking for 8pin mic connector for my K2 data cable 

Anyone have one I could buy? I know I can get one at HRO but they want as much 
for shipping as the cost of 2 connectors. I checked my local RS and no luck 
there. 

73 
Steve 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Boost Buck 13.8 V Regulator

2013-05-17 Thread Mark Newbold
Regarding that first regulator, the QSKJ QS-1212CCBA-80W, I have one of those. The IN- and VO- 
connections are apparently not wired together internally. You can't look inside because the whole 
thing is potted in some solid substance. In the interest of having all my equipment on a common 
ground, I wired the IN- and VO- together. Now the red error light is lit all the time (even when 
those connections are not wired together). And the device shuts down regularly (output voltage drops 
to zero until power-cycled). I don't know whether the failure was caused by wiring the connections 
together, or whether it's just coincidence.


The thing doesn't make much hash at KX3 receive current levels, but hash increases if you draw more 
current from it.


--Mark K7NEW


On 5/15/2013 11:41 AM, Jon Moody wrote:

Hi Glenn,

I have purchased both of these DC-DC power converters and have been very
happy with them.  They both have an adjustable output set voltage and seem
to have very good regulation.  The only issue is with RFI that they
generate.  The good news is that they are pretty well shielded in aluminum
cases.   But their is stil some leakage from the power connections but I
have found that attaching good quality ferrite beads on the power
connectors to pretty much eliminate this as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Low-Ripple-CC-CV-Car-Power-Supply-Module-LED-Driver-DC-DC-8-30V-to-2-16V-80W-/251112762798?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a777cadae

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-150W-Non-Isolated-Booster-Voltage-Converter-6V-32V-Step-Down-to-0-8V-28V-/260968513486?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cc2ef7fce

YMMV and I am sure that their are many other equally fine Regulators out
there


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

2013-05-17 Thread Barry
I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them  :.(
Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

2013-05-17 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Given the choice between a free hat, or free enhancements to my KX3 
(firmware updates) I'll take the enhancements.


On 5/17/2013 11:43 AM, Barry wrote:

I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them  :.(
Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] No power out K3

2013-05-17 Thread Peter Wollan
just something to check -- is the right antenna selected?  (I've done that.)

  Peter W0LLN


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steve a...@bellsouth.net wrote:

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

2013-05-17 Thread Bob

I'll take the hat since I do not have a KX3, YET.

Only an antique K2  K3 owner.   However I do have a friend who is at Dayton and 
will try to score me a hat...


73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956)  K2TKR


On 5/17/2013 2:56 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
Given the choice between a free hat, or free enhancements to my KX3 (firmware 
updates) I'll take the enhancements.


On 5/17/2013 11:43 AM, Barry wrote:

I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them  :.(
Barry W2UP





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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

2013-05-17 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

I'm sure the K3 gets (free) firmware updates as well.

On 5/17/2013 12:39 PM, Bob wrote:

I'll take the hat since I do not have a KX3, YET.

Only an antique K2  K3 owner.   However I do have a friend who is at 
Dayton and will try to score me a hat...


73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956)  K2TKR


On 5/17/2013 2:56 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
Given the choice between a free hat, or free enhancements to my KX3 
(firmware updates) I'll take the enhancements.


On 5/17/2013 11:43 AM, Barry wrote:
I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them  
:.(

Barry W2UP








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Re: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Peter Hedberg
Sorry to hear that.   I guess I misunderstood what I was told at Visalia.  I
filled out an order form ($4500) near the end of the exhibit time but didn't
place the order because I wasn't sure about the filters I wanted and said at
the time I wanted to take advantage of a possible Dayton special.  True I
didn't say I'd be at Dayton but nobody asked if I would be at Dayton.   As I
said earlier I go to Dayton every other year and last year I bought a Icom
7700.   A couple of months ago I purchased a Icom 7410 as a backup and
haven't even taken it out of the box because of a couple of my friends said
I really need to look the K3.  Between that and couple of the seminars at
Visalia sold me on the K3 but it would have been an impulse purchase at the
time and I don't do that.   That's why I choose to wait.  Over the years
I've made a few purchases after  Dayton and got the Dayton deal when I asked
for it.  Maybe next year when I come to Dayton again I'll still be in the
mood for K3.

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Subject: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

Pete,
We'll be happy to take any order from you.
We just can't give you the Dayton Special unless you are there.

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Re: [Elecraft] Ideal RTTY filter.

2013-05-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



Anyhow this may confirm what has been said on this reflector. The 350
Hz (AKA 250 Hz) filter is probably the narrowest practical choice for
RTTY.


This is a point that can not be emphasized too often.  The 250 Hz
filter has a very rounded top that is being pushed hard to reach
Chen's 270 Hz within a fraction of a dB criteria.  Further, because
of the significant rounding, the filter is not completely phase
linear - although it is better than an alternative design that might
be absolutely flat for 350 Hz and transition from passband (flat) to
stopband (skirts) very suddenly over a 20 to 20 Hz (e.g. 300 Hz at
-1 dB and 350 Hz at -6dB).

Except for issues of AGC pumping (blocking) and in band IMD, one would
probably be better served by using a 400, 500 or 1000 Hz roofing
filter with a 300 or 350 Hz DSP filter setting.  The difference in
IMD3 between 400 Hz and 1000 Hz roofing filters is very small in the
context of RTTY - the incremental distance from center to cutoff can
not accommodate much more than one additional signal on each skirt and
the chance of two very strong signals or more than two strong signals
having the right frequency relationship within even a 1 KHz (@ -6dB)
bandwidth to create interfering IMD3 is quite small.

With modern DSP based RTTY software, the goal should be sufficient
roofing filter selectivity to prevent blocking and IMD3 along with
DSP filtering that is good enough to reduce the number of signals
to the point that the instantaneous peak does not cause distortion in
the audio stages or overflow the A/D converter in the sound card.
*Beyond that point,* so long as the sound card does not have an
excessively high noise floor and/or limited dynamic range (as exhibited
by some inexpensive ham products), RTTY performance will be
determined almost entirely by the performance of the DSP resonators
and the ability of the demodulator algorithm to deal with multipath,
and selective fading (ATC).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/17/2013 1:07 PM, Brian Alsop wrote:

This comes from June 2013 QST page 59.

According to W7AY:

The ideal RTTY filter is 280 Hz wide.  Narrowing it further by 60 Hz
doubles the error rate.

The article references:
http://www.w7ay.net/site/Technical/RTTY%20Transmit%20Filters/index.html

Which doesn't come out and say the above!  It's talking about transmit
filters.  W7AY doesn't like uneven power in transmit tones either.

Anyhow this may confirm what has been said on this reflector. The 350 Hz
(AKA 250 Hz) filter is probably the narrowest practical choice for RTTY.

73 de Brian/K3KO



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[Elecraft] Combo pre-amp

2013-05-17 Thread Jack Berry
Has there been any information of Elecraft producing a 6+10 meter ore-amp? 
Seems I read a hint in this months ago. 

73,
Jack
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options

2013-05-17 Thread Bill Frantz
Thanks Don, Joe, Mike, and Iain for pointing out the MIC+LIN is 
probably where my problem lies. I set up soundcard modes first 
and didn't realize that the sound source was remembered by mode. 
So of course I needed sound from both so I set MIC+LIN.


Thanks all - Bill, AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings

2013-05-17 Thread AD6XY
Its oscillating. Stop using it as you are transmitting outside the band -
hence the high VSWR



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[Elecraft] KPA-500

2013-05-17 Thread W5KDJ
Just built the amp but cannot find anywhere it says what the INFO button is for?


W5KDJ - Wayne Rogers USNR (Ret.)
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[Elecraft] Discounts was: K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Ray Sills

Hi Gang:

While it's nice to be able to get a big show discount... the fact is  
that those who attend the event are spending a great deal more money  
then a buyer who just orders on line or over the phone.  Those buyers  
are spending quite a bit for food, lodging, and travel.  I submit,  
that it's much more cost effective to simply buy on line.  I'd wager  
it would cost me over $500 just to be able to walk through the  
boneyard... and not buy anything.


Granted, seeing a product at a show, talking to the vendors, talking  
to fellow hams and friends, has value.. and that's what you get when  
you attend a show.  That can certainly help you make a decision of  
buying a particular piece of equipment.  Since the vendors have to  
ship an inventory to shows, I wonder how it is that they are still  
able to offer discounts.  I guess it's due to the volume of sales.   
And yes, there's some wonderful buzz when a new item debuts at a show,  
and certainly Dayton is the benchmark of big shows.


So, I'm not going to complain about not getting a discount.  If I  
travel that far, (from EPA to Dayton), I want to see my grandkids...  
the heck with radio gear!  After all, I didn't have to spend extra  
money to stay home.  And the money I saved might just buy me a new toy  
or two.  :)


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500

2013-05-17 Thread Joe Hutchens

Under Hard Faults on page 12 of manual.

Joe Hutchens  ( AJ8MH )
http://webpages.charter.net/aj8mh-radio/


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 5:19 PM, W5KDJ wrote:

Just built the amp but cannot find anywhere it says what the INFO 
button is for?



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Re: [Elecraft] Discounts was: K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Bruce Beford
...they lose $10 each each sale, but make it up in volume! 8-)

 I wonder how it is that they are still able to offer discounts.  I guess 
 it's due to the volume of sales.


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

2013-05-17 Thread Fred Jensen

On 5/17/2013 12:39 PM, Bob wrote:

I'll take the hat since I do not have a KX3, YET.

Only an antique K2  K3 owner.   However I do have a friend who is at
Dayton and will try to score me a hat...


Hmmm ... does antique modify K2  K3 or owner?

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500

2013-05-17 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

I expect to receive my KPA500 from Elecraft next week, but the manual
states something on the info button on page 12.

73
Arie PA3A


Op 17-5-2013 23:19, W5KDJ schreef:

Just built the amp but cannot find anywhere it says what the INFO button is for?


W5KDJ - Wayne Rogers USNR (Ret.)





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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

2013-05-17 Thread Bob

Hi Fred,

To the best of my knowledge both are applicable,.

73,
Bob
K2TK  Ex KN2TKR (1956, to establish a time frame)   K2TKR


On 5/17/2013 5:38 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

On 5/17/2013 12:39 PM, Bob wrote:

I'll take the hat since I do not have a KX3, YET.

Only an antique K2  K3 owner.   However I do have a friend who is at
Dayton and will try to score me a hat...


Hmmm ... does antique modify K2  K3 or owner?

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org






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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings

2013-05-17 Thread WW2R Elecraft
Both my early edition K144XV were not unconditionally stable and were swr
intolerant

I think you will find that the 3:1 swr is because it is oscillating out of
band. Try listening on a scanner. I have experienced this on my two k144xv
and g4ddk had the same issue with his. One example produced 162MHz, one
168MHz one around 158MHz. When you tune or speak it stabilizes and generates
on 2m   My k144xv were fine if I operated at the bottom end of 2m where the
swr was 1.1:1 but my antenna swr rose to 1.6:1 at around 144.8MHz  and above
this point it showed the instability you mentioned


Mine were replaced with the later production run k144xv (the one without the
centre spacer, but that could just be coincidence!) and the issue has not
arisen since

Dave

G4FRE



 

Message: 19
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 05:26:24 -0500
From: Michael Eberle mtebe...@mchsi.com
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings
Message-ID: 519605d0.20...@mchsi.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I've noticed strange behavior on both the W2 watt meter and a 
cross-needle meter when using my K3 on 2 meters.  Just curious if anyone 
has had problems like this?  In SSB mode, keying the mic without any 
audio causes the watt meter to show about 3 watts output power and 3:1 
SWR.  However If I hold the TUNE button and put out a carrier It shows 
the expected 7-10 Watts forward with normal low SWR.  It also appears to 
show normal readings while speaking into the mic, but goes to the 
unusual readings with in between audio peaks.

Thanks
Mike KI0HA

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Re: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Geoffrey Downs
The number of K3s sold and its good reputation suggest it's worth the price 
whether discounted for Dayton or not. I am certainly of that view. Also, the 
price won't alter the amount of fun you get from it and if you wait till May 
2014 you'll be missing  a year's worth :-)


73

Geoff
G3UCK

-Original Message- 
From: Peter Hedberg

Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:10 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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...
Maybe next year when I come to Dayton again I'll still be in the
mood for K3.

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Re: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Bill
Saving a few bucks on a purchase that you will use heavily for years 
just does NOT matter.


Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Gary Gregory
Giving discounts and feebies reduce profits.to compensate for the drop
in revenue will flow onto product pricing.
Given Elecrafts history of price stability i am happy with no freebies
and/or deep discounts at costly hamfests and Wayne articulated Elecrafts
position clearly enough i think.

Just my insignificant opinion..

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 18/05/2013 10:13 AM, Bill b...@w2blc.net wrote:

 Saving a few bucks on a purchase that you will use heavily for years just
 does NOT matter.

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Re: [Elecraft] K7WTG Dayton

2013-05-17 Thread Phil Hystad
Sometimes I think the value of a discount is not in the money you save but 
rather in the feeling you have of getting some kind of special deal or special 
treatment.

I was at the parts department of a local Chevy dealership a few years ago to 
buy some minor thing.  When the guy was totaling things up he said that I get 
the 10% senior citizen discount.  I said You mean you offer the senior citizen 
discount for someone who is only 55 ?.  He said, No, the discount is for 65 
and older.  I gladly turned down the discount.  Some discounts are not worth 
getting especially if only 10 percent which barely covers sales tax here in my 
area of the country.

73, phil, K7PEH


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 Saving a few bucks on a purchase that you will use heavily for years just 
 does NOT matter.
 
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[Elecraft] discounts?

2013-05-17 Thread bill . va3ol
Yes, I am a frugal ham.

 But: in Elecraft's case it treats it's customers like no other company
(ham or not) that I have ever seen. Case on point. I had a problem with my
MH3 mic. In a year I only used it about 3 times but it went bad What
did Elecraft do... replaced it!  None of my YKI   (I now call them Yucky)
radio problems every had this level of service. Most ended in bitter
disappointment.

  The level of service that Elecraft  have given me, both from a warranty
perspective and from the level of service for none warranty issues is
something the the other companies should emulate. But don't. Shame on them,
For my money Elecraft is the best value around.

Bill, VA3OL
Oro-Medonte Twp, Ontario
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[Elecraft] discounts?

2013-05-17 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Bill,
 
To our knowledge, Elecraft concentrates in the ham market which is relatively a 
small one when compared with the institutional sector.
 
Therefore, they choose a business model of excellent customer service and 
tailor fit products to the ham radio sector.  This business model has been 
proved to be successful.  Eric is an excellent marketing personnel and Wayne is 
an innovative engineer.  This is a very good combination.
 
I of course wish Elecraft to grow up to the scale of YKI or even larger. On the 
other hand,  from a very selfish point of view, I like their existing scale so 
as to maintain the current customer service level.
 
Going back to Dayton discounts, I visited Dayton in 2011 but did not see any 
real discount on Elecraft products.  I once asked them to bring me a KRX3 
module so that I could collect it in Dayton (to save some shipping costs).  
Eventually, at their advice, I collected my KRX3 in New York City where was my 
next stop after Dayton.

TNX  73,


Johnny VR2XMC

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Yes, I am a frugal ham.

But: in Elecraft's case it treats it's customers like no other company
(ham or not) that I have ever seen. Case on point. I had a problem with my
MH3 mic. In a year I only used it about 3 times but it went bad What
did Elecraft do... replaced it!  None of my YKI  (I now call them Yucky)
radio problems every had this level of service. Most ended in bitter
disappointment.

  The level of service that Elecraft  have given me, both from a warranty
perspective and from the level of service for none warranty issues is
something the the other companies should emulate. But don't. Shame on them,
For my money Elecraft is the best value around.

Bill, VA3OL
Oro-Medonte Twp, Ontario
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Re: [Elecraft] discounts?

2013-05-17 Thread george fritkin
Discounts are great, but how about delivering products when promised.

George, W6GF



 From: Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 6:27 PM
Subject: [Elecraft]  discounts?
 

Hello Bill,
 
To our knowledge, Elecraft concentrates in the ham market which is relatively a 
small one when compared with the institutional sector.
 
Therefore, they choose a business model of excellent customer service and 
tailor fit products to the ham radio sector.  This business model has been 
proved to be successful.  Eric is an excellent marketing personnel and Wayne is 
an innovative engineer.  This is a very good combination.
 
I of course wish Elecraft to grow up to the scale of YKI or even larger. On the 
other hand,  from a very selfish point of view, I like their existing scale so 
as to maintain the current customer service level.
 
Going back to Dayton discounts, I visited Dayton in 2011 but did not see any 
real discount on Elecraft products.  I once asked them to bring me a KRX3 
module so that I could collect it in Dayton (to save some shipping costs).  
Eventually, at their advice, I collected my KRX3 in New York City where was my 
next stop after Dayton.

TNX  73,


Johnny VR2XMC

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傳送日期︰ 2013年05月18日 (週六) 8:50 AM
主題︰ [Elecraft] discounts?


Yes, I am a frugal ham.

But: in Elecraft's case it treats it's customers like no other company
(ham or not) that I have ever seen. Case on point. I had a problem with my
MH3 mic. In a year I only used it about 3 times but it went bad What
did Elecraft do... replaced it!  None of my YKI  (I now call them Yucky)
radio problems every had this level of service. Most ended in bitter
disappointment.

  The level of service that Elecraft  have given me, both from a warranty
perspective and from the level of service for none warranty issues is
something the the other companies should emulate. But don't. Shame on them,
For my money Elecraft is the best value around.

Bill, VA3OL
Oro-Medonte Twp, Ontario
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings

2013-05-17 Thread Michael Eberle

Dave,

Yes that is exactly what it appears to be doing.  My frequency counter 
is showing RF at 153.600 MHz regardless of what part of the band it is 
tuned to.  I removed the K144XV Reference Lock Board and there was no 
change.  Is there anything that can be done to correct this, or do I 
need to send it back to Elecraft?  I just bought it 2 months ago so it 
shouldn't be an early production run board.


Thanks,
Mike KI0HA

On 5/17/2013 6:50 PM, WW2R Elecraft wrote:

Both my early edition K144XV were not unconditionally stable and were swr
intolerant

I think you will find that the 3:1 swr is because it is oscillating out of
band. Try listening on a scanner. I have experienced this on my two k144xv
and g4ddk had the same issue with his. One example produced 162MHz, one
168MHz one around 158MHz. When you tune or speak it stabilizes and generates
on 2m   My k144xv were fine if I operated at the bottom end of 2m where the
swr was 1.1:1 but my antenna swr rose to 1.6:1 at around 144.8MHz  and above
this point it showed the instability you mentioned


Mine were replaced with the later production run k144xv (the one without the
centre spacer, but that could just be coincidence!) and the issue has not
arisen since

Dave

G4FRE



  


Message: 19
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 05:26:24 -0500
From: Michael Eberle mtebe...@mchsi.com
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings
Message-ID: 519605d0.20...@mchsi.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I've noticed strange behavior on both the W2 watt meter and a
cross-needle meter when using my K3 on 2 meters.  Just curious if anyone
has had problems like this?  In SSB mode, keying the mic without any
audio causes the watt meter to show about 3 watts output power and 3:1
SWR.  However If I hold the TUNE button and put out a carrier It shows
the expected 7-10 Watts forward with normal low SWR.  It also appears to
show normal readings while speaking into the mic, but goes to the
unusual readings with in between audio peaks.

Thanks
Mike KI0HA

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Re: [Elecraft] discounts?

2013-05-17 Thread tnnyswy
George, give it up! 

73 Milverton.






 From: george fritkin georgefrit...@yahoo.com
To: El elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] discounts?
 

Discounts are great, but how about delivering products when promised.

George, W6GF



From: Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 6:27 PM
Subject: [Elecraft]  discounts?


Hello Bill,
 
To our knowledge, Elecraft concentrates in the ham market which is relatively 
a small one when compared with the institutional sector.
 
Therefore, they choose a business model of excellent customer service and 
tailor fit products to the ham radio sector.  This business model has been 
proved to be successful.  Eric is an excellent marketing personnel and Wayne 
is an innovative engineer.  This is a very good combination.
 
I of course wish Elecraft to grow up to the scale of YKI or even larger. On 
the other hand,  from a very selfish point of view, I like their existing 
scale so as to maintain the current customer service level.
 
Going back to Dayton discounts, I visited Dayton in 2011 but did not see any 
real discount on Elecraft products.  I once asked them to bring me a KRX3 
module so that I could collect it in Dayton (to save some shipping costs).  
Eventually, at their advice, I collected my KRX3 in New York City where was my 
next stop after Dayton.

TNX  73,


Johnny VR2XMC

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收件人︰ elecraft list elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
傳送日期︰ 2013年05月18日 (週六) 8:50 AM
主題︰ [Elecraft] discounts?


Yes, I am a frugal ham.

But: in Elecraft's case it treats it's customers like no other company
(ham or not) that I have ever seen. Case on point. I had a problem with my
MH3 mic. In a year I only used it about 3 times but it went bad What
did Elecraft do... replaced it!  None of my YKI  (I now call them Yucky)
radio problems every had this level of service. Most ended in bitter
disappointment.

  The level of service that Elecraft  have given me, both from a warranty
perspective and from the level of service for none warranty issues is
something the the other companies should emulate. But don't. Shame on them,
For my money Elecraft is the best value around.

Bill, VA3OL
Oro-Medonte Twp, Ontario
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings

2013-05-17 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Mike: First e-mail k3supp...@elecraft.com or call them (831-763-4211) for
further guidance. 

As Dave says the center spacer was removed very early on when some stability
issues arose. I have an early pre-production board, but it was stable with
and now without that spacer. This sounds like something new but may be
something that you can tackle yourself. 

73, Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Michael Eberle
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:57 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Strange Readings

Dave,

Yes that is exactly what it appears to be doing.  My frequency counter is
showing RF at 153.600 MHz regardless of what part of the band it is tuned
to.  I removed the K144XV Reference Lock Board and there was no change.  Is
there anything that can be done to correct this, or do I need to send it
back to Elecraft?  I just bought it 2 months ago so it shouldn't be an early
production run board.

Thanks,
Mike KI0HA

On 5/17/2013 6:50 PM, WW2R Elecraft wrote:
 Both my early edition K144XV were not unconditionally stable and were 
 swr intolerant

 I think you will find that the 3:1 swr is because it is oscillating 
 out of band. Try listening on a scanner. I have experienced this on 
 my two k144xv and g4ddk had the same issue with his. One example 
 produced 162MHz, one 168MHz one around 158MHz. When you tune or speak it
stabilizes and generates
 on 2m   My k144xv were fine if I operated at the bottom end of 2m where
the
 swr was 1.1:1 but my antenna swr rose to 1.6:1 at around 144.8MHz  and 
 above this point it showed the instability you mentioned


 Mine were replaced with the later production run k144xv (the one 
 without the centre spacer, but that could just be coincidence!) and 
 the issue has not arisen since

 Dave

 G4FRE

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Re: [Elecraft] Combo pre-amp

2013-05-17 Thread Tom H Childers
If you find one of those ore amps, let me know where I can get one. I
have some gold I'd like to amplify.

;o)

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Fri, 17 May 2013 16:42:01 -0400, Jack Berry we...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Has there been any information of Elecraft producing a 6+10 meter ore-amp? 
Seems I read a hint in this months ago. 

73,
Jack
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Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
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Re: [Elecraft] Ideal RTTY filter.

2013-05-17 Thread Ed Muns


Brian K3KO wrote:

This comes from June 2013 QST page 59.
First of all, Chen's article is about transmit filtering which is not
directly translatable to optimal receive filtering.  Second, the cascade
effect of the K3 crystal filter and DSP filter must be considered in
determining the net receive bandwidth.  So very different net receiver
bandwidths result depending on what DSP bandwidth is used with the engaged
crystal filter bandwidth, e.g., KFLA250 which is really a 370 Hz filter.
Third, the ideal receive bandwidth for optimal decoding is not the same as
the transmit bandwidth for minimum QRM.  Depending on the decoder, a
receiver bandwidth of around 400 Hz is optimum ... unless there is such a
heavy QRM situation that a better overall system trade-off is obtained with
narrower, e.g., 250 Hz, net IF bandwidth.  A transmit filter of 280 Hz is an
optimum trade-off between minimizing QRM to neighboring QSOs and maintaining
signal integrity for the intended receiver.  Finally, this transmit filter
can be implemented in either the radio or the encoder.  MMTTY, for example,
provides a number of transmit filter bandwidths and the default 48-tap TX
bandwidth for AFSK meets Chen's proposal.


Ed W0YK


According to W7AY:

The ideal RTTY filter is 280 Hz wide.  Narrowing it further by 60 Hz 
doubles the error rate.

The article references:
http://www.w7ay.net/site/Technical/RTTY%20Transmit%20Filters/index.html

Which doesn't come out and say the above!  It's talking about transmit 
filters.  W7AY doesn't like uneven power in transmit tones either.

Anyhow this may confirm what has been said on this reflector. The 350 Hz 
(AKA 250 Hz) filter is probably the narrowest practical choice for RTTY.

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