[Elecraft] K3 with SubRX and external Transverter

2013-07-04 Thread Marco Eggert
Guys,

I am currently using a K3 Ser#69xx with an external 2m transverter plugged in 
the XVERTER IN/OUT BNC Jacks in the KXV3A module with great success. What a 
combo, astonishing!

Now I want to add the optional second receiver. But I fear that I can not use 
it, when the transverter is connected to the Xverter Jacks. I already tried to 
use the second RX Jack, but it seems it is deactivated when using transverters. 
As soon as I changed the XV1 PWR Setting to High, it worked. But then of course 
I have to use ANT1. 

Any ideas of how to use SubRX with transverter jacks? 

Marco
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[Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread f9oj.7
Wishing a happy National Day to all the Elecrafters, and to the Staff !
Best 73 from
Jacques de F9OJ
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Tim Hague
Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing the tea 
in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)

Best regards, Tim Hague
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 4 Jul 2013, at 07:21, f9oj.7 f9o...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

 Wishing a happy National Day to all the Elecrafters, and to the Staff !
 Best 73 from
 Jacques de F9OJ
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Fred Smith
 Yes best wishes to everyone on this day where we celebrate our freedom God
Bless you all! I hope we all see another one.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Hague
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:31 AM
Cc: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing the
tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)

Best regards, Tim Hague
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 4 Jul 2013, at 07:21, f9oj.7 f9o...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

 Wishing a happy National Day to all the Elecrafters, and to the Staff !
 Best 73 from
 Jacques de F9OJ
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi OMs
 Yes and thank you France for your much needed help.   The closest
relationship is with the UK but you saved our bacon besides we rather like
the Statue of Liberty.

  Peace and 73 Doug EI2CN, KC1AV ex K4WQZ, W1CGG

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
Sent: 04 July 2013 08:15
To: 'Tim Hague'
Cc: 'Elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

 Yes best wishes to everyone on this day where we celebrate our freedom God
Bless you all! I hope we all see another one.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Hague
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:31 AM
Cc: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing the
tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)

Best regards, Tim Hague
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 4 Jul 2013, at 07:21, f9oj.7 f9o...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

 Wishing a happy National Day to all the Elecrafters, and to the Staff !
 Best 73 from
 Jacques de F9OJ
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[Elecraft] BATT ERROR?

2013-07-04 Thread Alan Price

When I try and charge my KX3 (14.5VDC) I am getting bAt Err.  What am I doing 
wrong?
 
73
Alan
  
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[Elecraft] Found the problem

2013-07-04 Thread Alan Price

The batteries were all fully charged.
 
73
Alan 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with SubRX and external Transverter

2013-07-04 Thread Marco Eggert
 Problem solved! Thanks for the replys :)


- Original Nachricht 

 Guys,
 
 I am currently using a K3 Ser#69xx with an external 2m transverter plugged
 in the XVERTER IN/OUT BNC Jacks in the KXV3A module with great success. What
 a combo, astonishing!
 
 Now I want to add the optional second receiver. But I fear that I can not
 use it, when the transverter is connected to the Xverter Jacks. I already
 tried to use the second RX Jack, but it seems it is deactivated when using
 transverters. As soon as I changed the XV1 PWR Setting to High, it worked.
 But then of course I have to use ANT1. 
 
 Any ideas of how to use SubRX with transverter jacks? 
 
 Marco
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 case

2013-07-04 Thread WM3M

Bob,
MCM does not show sale prices, not sure why.
Once in cart type in source code  T306
That code comes from their paper catalogs.
Emory  WM3M

-Original Message- 
From: Bob K6UJ

Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:37 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 case

I found the 22-15405 on the MCM website it shows a sales price of $9.99

Bob
K6UJ



On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:31 PM, WM3M wrote:


FYI
I have been looking for a small case for my KX3 for travel and camping.
I bought one from MCM, it came today.
Item 22-15405  Black Weatherproof Equipment Case - 10.6 (L) x 9.8 (W) x 
4.9 (H) .

It is on sale for $7.99,  includes break apart foam.
KX3 fits in it just fine with space for mic or other smalls items, 
completely padded.

MCM shipping is more than the case.
The case is a China Pelican knock off but it should work fine for my use.
Emory  WM3M

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-100 pop from TX to RX

2013-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dave,

If it does not have the popping sound when you select 8R=nor, then run 
it that way.


With the updated KPA100, there is one resistor on the bottom of the 
board - a 22k from the +12 volt rail to the drain of Q7.
What a 100k resistor would be doing on the bottom of the board, I have 
no idea.  Perhaps it is contributing to your popping condition.


The KDSP2 has mute transistors and apparently the unmute time for them 
(in addition to the audio delay through the DSP) is causing that pop to 
be heard.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/3/2013 11:09 PM, DaveVK wrote:

Don,

I have fixed the mechanical buzz from the SSB tx on the KPA-100.  The fault
was mine.  Across the RF Aux input between the PCB and the heatsink there
seems to be a blue resistor with the colours Brn-Blk-Blk-Org-Brn with one
leg that was touching the heat sink.  The legs are long and so I just pushed
it away with a screwdriver.  I don't know what that part is doing there, or
why it is installed like a hack did the job but the memory of it is lost in
history.

I cannot find the part listed in the KPA instruction manual or any of the
upgrade kits. So maybe it doesn't belong there??!!  But anyway, that problem
is fixed and the next time I'm in a position to remove the heatsink I'll
install that part properly.

I seem to have the upgrade kit installed and the blue cores are in the
KPA-100.

Now the popping is unsolved.  It seems to be connected to the DSP.   The
popping is most prominent on bands below 20m.  When the DSP is bypassed the
popping disappears.  I am still hunting this one down.




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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Rick Johnson
Thank you for the chuckle!You guys and your tea..
73,Rick W3BI

 From: m0...@yahoo.co.uk
 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 08:30:53 +0100
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July
 
 Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing the 
 tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)
 
 Best regards, Tim Hague
 Skype m0afj.Tim
 Sent on my iPad
 
 

  
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 Setup For Contesting?

2013-07-04 Thread Bill Frantz
Don is absolutely right. I enjoyed one field day as a 1C with a 
total of 4 SSB QSOs. Most of my field days have been with the 
West Valley Amateur Radio Association's operation. WVARA has a 
bunch of avid contesters, so we have spent the last few years 
looking for a sub-category where we might be able to break the 
record score. This year we tried for the 9AB category. When the 
results come out we'll see how K6EI and our GOTA call W6ZZZ came 
out. We have set new records in previous years.


General advice for a high-scoring field day.

  * Arrange antennas for minimum mutual interference.

  * Use the best antennas/masts etc. you can get your hands on.

  * Use Elecraft radios. :-)

  * Check your radios with a spectrum analyser for spurious 
emissions beforehand.


  * Run QRP for the multiplier and reduced interference.

  * Get good CW operators. CW is where the points are.

  * Try slow speed CW. There are some OPs who can't go fast but 
want QSOs.


  * Try running when QRP. We had a CW op hold a frequency for 3 hours.

  * Try for all those 100 point bonuses.

I did my first field day with this group several years ago and 
came away with 4 major insights: QRP is a whole lot of fun, 
digital is a whole lot of fun, contesting is a whole lot of fun, 
and setting up a big field operation is a whole lot of fun.


I didn't find 20 hours of PSK operation during field day too 
much different from the NAQP RTTY contest: same logging program, 
same radio, about the same number of stations that didn't hear 
me, just a different digital mode. Field day was just a much 
longer operation.


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 7/3/13 at 5:11 PM, w3...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:


Scotty (and all),

Field Day is different things to different people.  To some it 
is as it was originally intended - an exercise in setting up a 
station in a short time for simulated emergency conditions.  To 
others it is a time to go into the 'back country' and test out 
your latest homebrew transceiver and portable antenna and see 
if you can make some contacts under adverse conditions, and to 
others it is a time to get together with fellow club members 
and have some socialization while making some contacts under 
those simulated emergency conditions. For others it is a time 
just to see if you can set up a station in the field 
(independent of power mains) and make some contacts just to 
prove to yourself that you can do it.  Then there are the 
others who treat it as a contest - competitive groups trying to 
see if they can muster the best score.



---
Bill Frantz| QRP: So you can talk about   | Periwinkle
(408)356-8506  | the ones that got away.  | 16345 
Englewood Ave
www.pwpconsult.com |  | Los Gatos, 
CA 95032


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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Mike Flowers
I think they tossed in a couple of crates of lemons too ... ;)

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - We do DX!

On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Rick Johnson w3bi.r...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for the chuckle!You guys and your tea..
 73,Rick W3BI
 
 From: m0...@yahoo.co.uk
 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 08:30:53 +0100
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July
 
 Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing the 
 tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)
 
 Best regards, Tim Hague
 Skype m0afj.Tim
 Sent on my iPad
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Tim Hague
Oh at least 100% God Bless Her! ( says he standing to attention) lol

Best regards, Tim Hague
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 4 Jul 2013, at 15:35, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Tim, what is the consensus in the UK on how much tax the Queen should get on 
 tea? (or King George III, if you prefer!)
  
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
 K5EWJ  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
 From: Rick Johnson w3bi.r...@hotmail.com
 To: Tim Hague m0...@yahoo.co.uk 
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 8:38 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July
 
 Thank you for the chuckle!You guys and your tea..
 73,Rick W3BI
 
  From: m0...@yahoo.co.uk
  Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 08:30:53 +0100
  CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July
  
  Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing the 
  tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)
  
  Best regards, Tim Hague
  Skype m0afj.Tim
  Sent on my iPad
  
  
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Tim Hague
No accounting for taste!

Best regards, Tim Hague
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 4 Jul 2013, at 15:51, Mike Flowers mike.flow...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think they tossed in a couple of crates of lemons too ... ;)
 
 -- Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - We do DX!
 
 On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Rick Johnson w3bi.r...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you for the chuckle!You guys and your tea..
 73,Rick W3BI
 
 From: m0...@yahoo.co.uk
 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 08:30:53 +0100
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July
 
 Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing the 
 tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)
 
 Best regards, Tim Hague
 Skype m0afj.Tim
 Sent on my iPad
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Peter Torry


There is only one thing better than a nice cup of tea and that is another one.

Happy Independence Day and don't spend too much tomorrow.

Peter
G3SMT
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread georgefritkin
Thanks to the gang at Elecraft for not only bringing us and the US and the 
worldbr/ the best ham gear out there, but with determination, hard work, and 
vision, demonstrating entrepreneurship is still alive right in our own 
backyard.br/br/73br/debr/br/George, W6GFbr/br/br/Sent from 
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[Elecraft] QRZ.com locations caution

2013-07-04 Thread Steve Lybarger
That’s right, Joe.

The MIDDLE of my zip code is 10 miles east of my station,  and on the other 
side of a 6000’ mountain range.  The middle of the zip code just happens to be 
at the Mustang Ranch, the world famous adult resort and spa.
Time to turn on the radio; spots are up.

Steve, NU7T
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Bill Blomgren (kk4qdz)
The problem with that tea was the tax stamps they put on every leaf... Ruined 
the flavor...


 
KK4QDZ - Now with Extra Class Priv's, and a tiny KX3 to enjoy them! And a first 
QSO with ab6z running a K3 no less...



 From: Rick Johnson w3bi.r...@hotmail.com
To: Tim Hague m0...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July
 

Thank you for the chuckle!You guys and your tea..
73,Rick W3BI

 From: m0...@yahoo.co.uk
 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 08:30:53 +0100
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July
 
 Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing the 
 tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)
 
 Best regards, Tim Hague
 Skype m0afj.Tim
 Sent on my iPad
 
 

                          
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[Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread Paul Taenzer
Hello,

We live on a very windy Island (with an industrial wind farm) and have been
loosing shingles off the roof due to severe wind storms.

We've been considering having a metal roof, but I'm wondering about the
possible impact of the metal roof on the radiation pattern and efficacy of
nearby antennas.

There's a SteppIR on a tower about 20 feet from a corner of the roof. The
antenna is about 30 feet higher than the highest point of the roof.

I'd appreciate learning from anyone with relevant experience or technical
expertise related to this.

Many thanks.

73s,

Paul
VA3LX
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[Elecraft] KX3 Wow..

2013-07-04 Thread F5vjc
I've just finished building my KX3 and did all the Config today, wow what a
little Gem this rig is !

I've had my K3 for some years now S.no. 325 so I thought I would be a
little underwhelmed by the KX3 but NO it's a little beauty !
Incredibly versatile with so many functions. It still amazes me that it's
possible to build such a complex software driven piece of equipment from a
kit of parts in a box and it works! Right out of the box. Kudos to Elecraft
and all the good guys and gals there..

My kit packed by Sandra and Clarissa not one small screw or washer missing,
thank you.

I will have some fun with this radio,

73 to all,  Deni F5VJC
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Re: [Elecraft] XV Transverter Local Oscillator -- GPSDO?

2013-07-04 Thread Carol F. Milazzo, KP4MD/W6
The GPS reference we used was engineered by N6GN specifically for members
of our 2 meter WSPR study group listed on
http://www.qsl.net/kp4md/144_mhz_wspr.htm
That discussion thread can be followed at
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/2-meter-wspr/-hDK071K1iM

A ready made solution to produce a 116 MHz local oscillator locked to a 10
MHz GPS disciplined reference is N5AC's VHF ApolLO at
http://www.n5ac.com/blog/products-page/apollo-synthesizers/vhf-apollo-assembled-tested/

Carol KP4MD

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:50 AM, David G4DMP da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk wrote:

 Hello Carol -

 Thank you so much for your msg on the Elecraft reflector; I found your
 slide show most interesting.

 I use my XV144 with a K2. I have the crystal oven option and have also
 installed an internal fan similar to that fitted as standard to the
 XV432. Stability is not bad but certainly not good enough for WSPR or
 PSK32.

 I do have a GPS disciplined 10MHz standard. All I need now to follow
 your example is to find a means of getting 116MHz from it to lock the
 XV144.  Do you have any circuit information of the PLL?

 Thanks again for your superb website.

 73

 David G4DMP

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] OT: QRZ.com locations caution

2013-07-04 Thread Rick Tavan N6XI
In addition, club calls start out with the trustee's address which could be
hundreds of miles away from the club's operating location. But change of
address transactions can change this relationship.

Also, some hams operate from multiple locations using the same call; me,
for example. When you work N6XI (or Filly Contest Group WF6C), you could be
working Santa Clara County CA CM87xg or Nevada County CA CM99wj. I do my
best to segregate my logs so my QSL responses can show where I was
operating.

Bottom line is, you really don't know where a US station is located unless
you ask the operator or receive a QSL (paper or electronic). LoTW supports
any number of locations. I think eQSL does, too.

73,

/Rick

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Ken G Kopp kengk...@gmail.com wrote:

 **


 Someone wrote;  It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and
 see the qth.

 This simply isn't true  be careful!

 Unless corrected by the licensee, the QRZ listing and everything about
 it depends on the FCC-supplied data.  If the address of record is a
 P. O. Box, the location will depend solely on that information.  This
 includes the grid square, county and in some cases is many miles
 the licensee's actual location.

 Butte, MT is split between two grid squares, and I have a friend who's
 P. O. Box address ... and QRZ info ... is in a different grid square from
 where he lives and operates.

 A case in point ... I'm the trustee of our club's call (W7VNE).  As far
 as anyone can recall it's -never- been on the air from it's QRZ location
 -or- even county!  Yet, it's been used in FD for over 40 years, but in a
 different (and somewhat rare) county.

 Things aren't always how they appear ...

 73!

 Ken Kopp - K0PP

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Re: [Elecraft] XV Transverter Local Oscillator -- GPSDO?

2013-07-04 Thread Carol F. Milazzo, KP4MD/W6
As I added the insulation and fan modifications just to stabilize the
internal 116 MHz local oscillator, I feel certain that they are not
necessary when using a GPS disciplined LO like N5AC's VHF ApolLO.  That was
an alternative I did consider before our own group project GPS10 became
available.  I would have fed the 10 MHz signal through the AUX BNC
connector to a VHF ApolLO installed inside the Elecraft XV144 case.
 Anyway, I have left the fans running as I like to see the Elecraft
transverter run cool.

Carol

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Bill Schwantes bill4...@gmail.com wrote:

 Carol,

 You've done some nice work here, by identifying XV temperature sensitive
 oscillator components other than the crystal.

 I'm curious to see if the demonstrated stability could be reproduced
 without the insulation and fan modifications you made.. just the GPS
 disciplined 116 Mhz injection.  If that works, one could package a GPS
 disciplined PLL synthesized oscillator board directly into the XV144.  A
 board such as this is available from Steve Hicks, N5AC (and other sources).
 There are a number of approaches to minimizing PLL phase noise.  If you are
 interested in those references, let me know.

 Bill, W7QQ



 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Carol F. Milazzo, KP4MD/W6 
 kp...@cfmilazzo.com wrote:

 I have achieved frequency stability to 1 Hz with the Flex-1500  Elecraft
 XV144 transverter combination, using a GPS disciplined OCXO on 116 MHz. I
 have documented the XV144 frequency stability and drift data comparing the
 GPS control against the stock crystal oven option with enhanced thermal
 insulation here
 https://picasaweb.google.com/114032640816757126398/XV144FrequencyStabilityModifications

 The stock FLEX-1500 TCXO is sufficient to hold the frequency to within 1
 Hz. Enabling the 10 MHz sine wave external reference on the FLEX-1500
 should increase the frequency accuracy and stability to the millihertz
 range.

 Carol, KP4MD




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 Does anyone know of a mod to the Elecraft XV transverters that provides for
 10 Mhz GPS disciplined oscillator control of the transverter local
 oscillator?

 I think that would be a popular feature for Elecraft to consider on future
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread Jim Bennett
Paul,

Our home is about 25 miles east of downtown Sacramento, CA. It is a two story 
home and until May of 2012 had a wood shake roof - very common in this part of 
the state. It was the original roof, about 21 years old, and was getting pretty 
nasty. We had it replaced with a metal roof: the Barcelona style of powder 
coated steel roofing made by Gerard.

My primary antenna is an 88 foot long doublet made with #26 wire. It is 
supported in the center (at 45 feet) by a long fiberglass windsurfing mast. The 
ends run through some trees to the north and south. The roof is only about 
15-20 feet from quite a bit of the antenna. I did not notice ANY differences in 
performance of this antenna when we had the roof replaced.

Note that with the wood shake roof, my feeder was 600-ohm line that I had 
simply lying on the wood shakes. I knew that was not a good idea with a metal 
roof, so I replaced the 600-ohm feeder with 450-ohm ladder line and routed that 
along the side of the house, running about 120 feet from the shack window to 
the antenna. Other than my K3's internal tuner having to re-learn tuning 
algorithms for each band/frequency, all was good.

I never bothered to mess with my eznec radiation pattern stuff, as (1) the 
patterns from a doublet are really whacky to begin with, and (2) I had no other 
options, so I knew it is what it is!. :-)

IMHO, you may see some difference, but I doubt it's going to be significant.

Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA (not the prison!)


On   Thursday, Jul 4, 2013, at  Thursday, 9:19 AM, Paul Taenzer wrote:

 Hello,
 
 We live on a very windy Island (with an industrial wind farm) and have been
 loosing shingles off the roof due to severe wind storms.
 
 We've been considering having a metal roof, but I'm wondering about the
 possible impact of the metal roof on the radiation pattern and efficacy of
 nearby antennas.
 
 There's a SteppIR on a tower about 20 feet from a corner of the roof. The
 antenna is about 30 feet higher than the highest point of the roof.
 
 I'd appreciate learning from anyone with relevant experience or technical
 expertise related to this.
 
 Many thanks.
 
 73s,
 
 Paul
 VA3LX
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread Mel Farrer
Hello Paul, 

I have not had any bad experience with metal roof with one exception.  I had a 
garage with a metal roof and while I did not see any pattern or tuning issues, 
I did notice that on a couple of galvanized panels where the connection was 
marginal, some discoloration  where they touched.  I was using a 14AVQ at power 
near the roof.  RF currents?  With insulated panels that are screwed together, 
or galvanized ones with sheet metal screws probably will never give you any 
problems. 

On my barn which is 46 x 54 feet I have used a vertical with the Galvanized 
panel roof as a ground plane.  Worked great.

Mel, K6KBE





 From: Jim Bennett w6...@mac.com
To: Paul Taenzer ptaen...@gmail.com 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs 
on antenna performace?
 

Paul,

Our home is about 25 miles east of downtown Sacramento, CA. It is a two story 
home and until May of 2012 had a wood shake roof - very common in this part of 
the state. It was the original roof, about 21 years old, and was getting pretty 
nasty. We had it replaced with a metal roof: the Barcelona style of powder 
coated steel roofing made by Gerard.

My primary antenna is an 88 foot long doublet made with #26 wire. It is 
supported in the center (at 45 feet) by a long fiberglass windsurfing mast. The 
ends run through some trees to the north and south. The roof is only about 
15-20 feet from quite a bit of the antenna. I did not notice ANY differences in 
performance of this antenna when we had the roof replaced.

Note that with the wood shake roof, my feeder was 600-ohm line that I had 
simply lying on the wood shakes. I knew that was not a good idea with a metal 
roof, so I replaced the 600-ohm feeder with 450-ohm ladder line and routed that 
along the side of the house, running about 120 feet from the shack window to 
the antenna. Other than my K3's internal tuner having to re-learn tuning 
algorithms for each band/frequency, all was good.

I never bothered to mess with my eznec radiation pattern stuff, as (1) the 
patterns from a doublet are really whacky to begin with, and (2) I had no other 
options, so I knew it is what it is!. :-)

IMHO, you may see some difference, but I doubt it's going to be significant.

Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA (not the prison!)


On   Thursday, Jul 4, 2013, at  Thursday, 9:19 AM, Paul Taenzer wrote:

 Hello,
 
 We live on a very windy Island (with an industrial wind farm) and have been
 loosing shingles off the roof due to severe wind storms.
 
 We've been considering having a metal roof, but I'm wondering about the
 possible impact of the metal roof on the radiation pattern and efficacy of
 nearby antennas.
 
 There's a SteppIR on a tower about 20 feet from a corner of the roof. The
 antenna is about 30 feet higher than the highest point of the roof.
 
 I'd appreciate learning from anyone with relevant experience or technical
 expertise related to this.
 
 Many thanks.
 
 73s,
 
 Paul
 VA3LX
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Re: [Elecraft] hooking up a K3 to a Alpha 76

2013-07-04 Thread Guy, K2AV
Over the years I have had numerous faux paux with RCA plug cables. Two
favorites are 1) the shell doesn't really connect with sides of the mating
jack.  2) The pin is not long enough to contact inside the jack.  This can
be due to short pin, or some detail of the plug shell/jack combo not
allowing sufficient insertion.  

The stories associated would make a small  book.   73, Guy K2AV



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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread EricJ
The French saw something in us then that we no longer recognize in 
ourselves.


If the British had had their way, we'd probably all be drinking better 
beer, though.


Eric
KE6US

On 7/4/2013 1:31 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:

Hi OMs
  Yes and thank you France for your much needed help.   The closest
relationship is with the UK but you saved our bacon besides we rather like
the Statue of Liberty.

   Peace and 73 Doug EI2CN, KC1AV ex K4WQZ, W1CGG

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
Sent: 04 July 2013 08:15
To: 'Tim Hague'
Cc: 'Elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

  Yes best wishes to everyone on this day where we celebrate our freedom God
Bless you all! I hope we all see another one.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Hague
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:31 AM
Cc: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing the
tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)

Best regards, Tim Hague
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


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Wishing a happy National Day to all the Elecrafters, and to the Staff !
Best 73 from
Jacques de F9OJ
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread Jim Bennett
Yes. Yes I was. :-)

On   Thursday, Jul 4, 2013, at  Thursday, 12:11 PM, Tom H Childers wrote:

 
 You must have been running very low power.  Laying any kind of
 ladder-line on a roof, insulated or not, is an excellent way to have
 a house fire that the insurance company will not pay for. Especialy a
 shake shingle roof.
 
 73,
 Tom
 Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
 ARRL Lifetime Member
 QCWA Lifetime Member
 
 [snip]
 73,
 Tom
 Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
 ARRL Lifetime Member
 QCWA Lifetime Member
 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QRZ.com locations caution

2013-07-04 Thread Jim Brown

On 7/3/2013 5:36 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

Not only that - the centroid of a zip code can be in a completely
different grid than a large portion of the population.  You'll
get close with the zip code but it will not be 100% reliable. 


Differences can be FAR greater than that.  I'm chasing the CQ Field 
award -- a Field is the first two letters of the grid.  For MANY DX 
listings, the default grid will be the geographic center of the COUNTRY, 
which for large countries (for example, Australia, Russia, Brazil) can 
be 1,000 miles from the actual QTH.


The good news is that qrz.com listings will tell you the source of the 
grid info -- DXCC, geocoded, or user supplied.  It's also possible to 
take an address, or the name of a city/town, and get close.  There are 
also several websites that convert lat/lon coordinates to grids.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Doug Turnbull
Eric,
Well put!   I will drink to what you say and to the Fourth.
   73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EricJ
Sent: 04 July 2013 18:41
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

The French saw something in us then that we no longer recognize in 
ourselves.

If the British had had their way, we'd probably all be drinking better 
beer, though.

Eric
KE6US

On 7/4/2013 1:31 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
 Hi OMs
   Yes and thank you France for your much needed help.   The closest
 relationship is with the UK but you saved our bacon besides we rather like
 the Statue of Liberty.

Peace and 73 Doug EI2CN, KC1AV ex K4WQZ, W1CGG

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
 Sent: 04 July 2013 08:15
 To: 'Tim Hague'
 Cc: 'Elecraft'
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

   Yes best wishes to everyone on this day where we celebrate our freedom
God
 Bless you all! I hope we all see another one.


 73,
 Fred/N0AZZ
 K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
 P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Hague
 Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:31 AM
 Cc: Elecraft
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

 Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing
the
 tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)

 Best regards, Tim Hague
 Skype m0afj.Tim
 Sent on my iPad


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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread John Marvin
I didn't see the original reply, but I just wanted to clear up one 
misconception. Homeowner's insurance covers stupidity. Unless it can be 
proved that you put that ladder line on the roof and ran high power 
through it with the intention of burning the house down, you would be 
covered.


73,
John
AC0ZG

On 7/4/2013 1:19 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:

Yes. Yes I was. :-)

On   Thursday, Jul 4, 2013, at  Thursday, 12:11 PM, Tom H Childers wrote:


You must have been running very low power.  Laying any kind of
ladder-line on a roof, insulated or not, is an excellent way to have
a house fire that the insurance company will not pay for. Especialy a
shake shingle roof.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

[snip]
73,
Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Keith Heimbold
Don't forget the Belgians and their beer. Hurrah for Duvell  Chimay! Monks 
rule!!!

Happy 4th of July!!

Keith
AK6ZZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Jul 4, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie wrote:

 Eric,
Well put!   I will drink to what you say and to the Fourth.
   73 Doug EI2CN
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EricJ
 Sent: 04 July 2013 18:41
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July
 
 The French saw something in us then that we no longer recognize in 
 ourselves.
 
 If the British had had their way, we'd probably all be drinking better 
 beer, though.
 
 Eric
 KE6US
 
 On 7/4/2013 1:31 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
 Hi OMs
  Yes and thank you France for your much needed help.   The closest
 relationship is with the UK but you saved our bacon besides we rather like
 the Statue of Liberty.
 
   Peace and 73 Doug EI2CN, KC1AV ex K4WQZ, W1CGG
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
 Sent: 04 July 2013 08:15
 To: 'Tim Hague'
 Cc: 'Elecraft'
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July
 
  Yes best wishes to everyone on this day where we celebrate our freedom
 God
 Bless you all! I hope we all see another one.
 
 
 73,
 Fred/N0AZZ
 K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
 P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
 
 
 
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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Hague
 Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:31 AM
 Cc: Elecraft
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July
 
 Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing
 the
 tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)
 
 Best regards, Tim Hague
 Skype m0afj.Tim
 Sent on my iPad
 
 
 On 4 Jul 2013, at 07:21, f9oj.7 f9o...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
 
 Wishing a happy National Day to all the Elecrafters, and to the Staff !
 Best 73 from
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread Jim Bennett
Not sure I'm liking where this conversation is going. I answered the original 
poster's question as to whether a metal roof has been seen to adversely affect 
antenna performance, not advocate doing stupid things. My installation worked 
very well for me w/o running high power. I knew I WOULD be doing QRO after a 
new roof was installed and subsequently ran my feeder in an appropriate 
location.

Jim / W6JHB

On   Thursday, Jul 4, 2013, at  Thursday, 12:52 PM, John Marvin wrote:

 I didn't see the original reply, but I just wanted to clear up one 
 misconception. Homeowner's insurance covers stupidity. Unless it can be 
 proved that you put that ladder line on the roof and ran high power through 
 it with the intention of burning the house down, you would be covered.
 
 73,
 John
 AC0ZG
 
 On 7/4/2013 1:19 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
 Yes. Yes I was. :-)
 
 On   Thursday, Jul 4, 2013, at  Thursday, 12:11 PM, Tom H Childers wrote:
 
 You must have been running very low power.  Laying any kind of
 ladder-line on a roof, insulated or not, is an excellent way to have
 a house fire that the insurance company will not pay for. Especialy a
 shake shingle roof.
 
 73,
 Tom
 Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
 ARRL Lifetime Member
 QCWA Lifetime Member
 
 [snip]
 73,
 Tom
 Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
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 QCWA Lifetime Member
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread Mike Harris
I run an Optibeam OB9-5 at about 42 feet on a tower only 10 feet away 
from the corner of our single story house with metal roof.


It hasn't disadvantaged me any.  I see a small change in SWR as the 
larger elements of 20M and 17M swing over the roof.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread Kurt Cramer
I had a summer Mobile home in Bisbee AZ. It had a large room added that also 
had a metal roof. A vertical for twenty meters mounted in the middle worked 
very well.
Kurt, W7QHD

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[Elecraft] K2 Antenna Tolerance

2013-07-04 Thread Tom Field
I've just finished my K2 bare bones, and would like to get on the air. What
SWR will the finals tolerate without harm? I'm using a ground mounted trap
vertical

Tom
KI6NRD
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[Elecraft] Noisy RX redux

2013-07-04 Thread Mike Reublin
Shortly after I got K3 3935 in Sept. of '09, the furor over noisy RX kinda 
peaked, and the result was a board swap.

A friend just bought a used K3 with a slightly earlier SN, and the RX 
background is very harsh and sharp sounding. We both came to Elecraft from a 
PRO II/III where the background in an A/B comparison is a soft 
swhsh.

I'd like to check and see if it has the same mod, but I've slept since then and 
cannot remember what the mod was called, or how to check for it. A tour of the 
mods page didn't kick my recaller into gear.

A related wish: List the serial number when a mod goes into production. 

n unrelated wish: HAPPY 4th!

73, Mike NF4L



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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Antenna Tolerance

2013-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

Tom,

Although unspecified, the bare-bones K2 will likely be OK working into a 
1.5 SWR.


However, the power control mechanism may suffer a bit.  The basic K2 
measures the RF voltage on the output and the MCU computes the power out 
assuming that the load is 50 ohms resistive, so with *any* SWR, that 
calculation may be in error.
If you find the power output of the K2 is not close to that which was 
requested by the power knob, that is the most likely reason. You may 
experience HiCur warnings (and power in excess of the requested value) 
if the antenna impedance is low, or if the impedance is higher then 50 
ohms, the power output will be lower than requested.


Adding the KAT2 or KPA100 or the KAT100 will cure that dependency 
because those options have real wattmeters that once calibrated tell the 
MCU the actual power output.


A tuner may be in order unless you plan to add one or more of the K2 
options that *cure* this behavior.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/4/2013 5:39 PM, Tom Field wrote:

I've just finished my K2 bare bones, and would like to get on the air. What
SWR will the finals tolerate without harm? I'm using a ground mounted trap
vertical

Tom
KI6NRD
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Re: [Elecraft] Noisy RX redux

2013-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

The audio low pass filter that was added to the DSP board do make a big 
improvement in the K3 perceived noise.


The AGC settings have a lot to do with that condition too, and I believe 
the default settings do not give he best performance, but your 
particular antenna and noise level have a lot to do with it as well.


Please check out the Noisy K3 article on my website www.w3fpr.com for 
information in adjusting the AGC parameters to better suit your 
particular situation.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/4/2013 5:47 PM, Mike Reublin wrote:

Shortly after I got K3 3935 in Sept. of '09, the furor over noisy RX kinda 
peaked, and the result was a board swap.

A friend just bought a used K3 with a slightly earlier SN, and the RX 
background is very harsh and sharp sounding. We both came to Elecraft from a 
PRO II/III where the background in an A/B comparison is a soft 
swhsh.

I'd like to check and see if it has the same mod, but I've slept since then and 
cannot remember what the mod was called, or how to check for it. A tour of the 
mods page didn't kick my recaller into gear.

A related wish: List the serial number when a mod goes into production.

n unrelated wish: HAPPY 4th!

73, Mike NF4L



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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Antenna Tolerance

2013-07-04 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Tom, the Owner's manual says  2:1 or better SWR recommended; will survive
operation
into high SWR.

The current demanded by the finals (and so the K2 overall) will increase as
the SWR goes up. A programmable transmit current limit will display HI CUR
on the LCD if you exceed it. Typically the current limit is set for 3A and
the normal transmit current is 1.5A to 2A. A too-high SWR will cause the HI
CUR to appear. 

If that happens to you due to the SWR being a bit too high, you can protect
the K2 finals by reducing the power. 

73 Ron AC7AC

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Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:40 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Antenna Tolerance

I've just finished my K2 bare bones, and would like to get on the air. What
SWR will the finals tolerate without harm? I'm using a ground mounted trap
vertical

Tom
KI6NRD
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


I ran some quick models of a tower at the corner of a house with
a metal roof in HFTA.  The effects of the metal roof were modeled
by a plane (sloping) from the tower to the edge of the roof, a drop
from eave height to local ground height (set to flat for these
purposes) and then flat ground out five miles.

While there is some change, the effects are minor and would be lost
in the clutter of other terrain effects anyplace other than in the
middle of a vast open plain.

The biggest effect will be impedance changes as Mike noted - and they
should me minimal if the antenna is 10 meters/30 feet or more above
the roof level for 20 meters and and above.  A low band wire will be
a different story as the effective height will be quite low.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 7/4/2013 5:05 PM, Mike Harris wrote:

I run an Optibeam OB9-5 at about 42 feet on a tower only 10 feet away
from the corner of our single story house with metal roof.

It hasn't disadvantaged me any.  I see a small change in SWR as the
larger elements of 20M and 17M swing over the roof.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO
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[Elecraft] KX3: on FM

2013-07-04 Thread Edward R Cole
I wonder if any of you are experiencing the same as I when receiving 
FM on the KX3?


Using a 144-28 MHz transverter, audio on FM is raspy in nature even 
with strong signals.  I compared with my K3 on FM using the same 
transverter and have much better sounding FM reception on the K3.


Running the KX3 preamp I get similar signal sensitivity as I get with 
the K3 (preamp off).


I tried tuning off frequency to see if that was the cause - its 
not.  Transverter has PLL LO so locked  1-Hz.  K3 runs 2-KHz AT 
28-MHz.  I have not measured the KX3 frequency at 28-MHz, but runs 
about 50-Hz low at 50-MHz.


This was with firmware 1.40.  I upgraded to 1.50 but have not tested 
since doing that as the transverter has been pulled for sale.


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
dubus...@gmail.com
Kits made by KL7UW 


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Re: [Elecraft] Noisy RX redux

2013-07-04 Thread Mike Reublin
Thanks, Don.

I played around with the AGC settings as you describe, and I can't say I found 
settings that made a difference. But I do have a tin ear.

You don't happen to remember where the DSP board mod is on the website, do you?

Mike

On Jul 4, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Mike Reublin n...@nf4l.com wrote:

 Shortly after I got K3 3935 in Sept. of '09, the furor over noisy RX kinda 
 peaked, and the result was a board swap.
 
 A friend just bought a used K3 with a slightly earlier SN, and the RX 
 background is very harsh and sharp sounding. We both came to Elecraft from a 
 PRO II/III where the background in an A/B comparison is a soft 
 swhsh.
 
 I'd like to check and see if it has the same mod, but I've slept since then 
 and cannot remember what the mod was called, or how to check for it. A tour 
 of the mods page didn't kick my recaller into gear.
 
 A related wish: List the serial number when a mod goes into production. 
 
 n unrelated wish: HAPPY 4th!
 
 73, Mike NF4L
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Noisy RX redux

2013-07-04 Thread Mike Reublin
I found the mod.

On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Mike Reublin n...@nf4l.com wrote:

 Thanks, Don.
 
 I played around with the AGC settings as you describe, and I can't say I 
 found settings that made a difference. But I do have a tin ear.
 
 You don't happen to remember where the DSP board mod is on the website, do 
 you?
 
 Mike
 
 On Jul 4, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Mike Reublin n...@nf4l.com wrote:
 
 Shortly after I got K3 3935 in Sept. of '09, the furor over noisy RX kinda 
 peaked, and the result was a board swap.
 
 A friend just bought a used K3 with a slightly earlier SN, and the RX 
 background is very harsh and sharp sounding. We both came to Elecraft from a 
 PRO II/III where the background in an A/B comparison is a soft 
 swhsh.
 
 I'd like to check and see if it has the same mod, but I've slept since then 
 and cannot remember what the mod was called, or how to check for it. A tour 
 of the mods page didn't kick my recaller into gear.
 
 A related wish: List the serial number when a mod goes into production. 
 
 n unrelated wish: HAPPY 4th!
 
 73, Mike NF4L
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread KD7YZ Bob

On Thursday Taenzer used a Straight-Key to send:
-Original Comment---

 We've been considering having a metal roof, but I'm wondering about the
 possible impact of the metal roof on the radiation pattern

I can tell you that my barn metal roof allows me to make about an hour
window to the WNW for 6m EME. I do not have Az/El rotator.

The 6M8GJ 8 element is about 30 feet above , and at the apex of, the
barn roof. The orientation of the barn is generally  also WNW.

It's predictable, never fails and I have made a few EME contacts on 6m
looking that way towards moonset and an Elevation of about 28 degrees
and down.

-- 
Best regards,
Bob  KD7YZWin7-64bit + K3

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[Elecraft] FS: FCC-1

2013-07-04 Thread Bob W7AVK
For Sale - Norcal FCC-1 Frequency Counter.  Purchased kit several years 
ago with idea of using it in a small rig.  Never got around to doing the 
installation.  Its built and works fine.Details of FCC-1 can be 
found at http://www.norcalqrp.org/fcc1.htm


Asking $42.50 which includes priority postage within US.  Paypal OK

73  Bob  W7AVK




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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread K7JLTextra
Have used metal as a ground plane  it worked great. Metal sections must be 
well bonded together or rectification will result. The larger the better. 

John Hendricks K7JLT

On Jul 4, 2013, at 16:16, KD7YZ Bob kd...@denstarfarm.us wrote:

 
 On Thursday Taenzer used a Straight-Key to send:
 -Original Comment---
 
 We've been considering having a metal roof, but I'm wondering about the
 possible impact of the metal roof on the radiation pattern
 
 I can tell you that my barn metal roof allows me to make about an hour
 window to the WNW for 6m EME. I do not have Az/El rotator.
 
 The 6M8GJ 8 element is about 30 feet above , and at the apex of, the
 barn roof. The orientation of the barn is generally  also WNW.
 
 It's predictable, never fails and I have made a few EME contacts on 6m
 looking that way towards moonset and an Elevation of about 28 degrees
 and down.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bob  KD7YZWin7-64bit + K3
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - anyone have experience with effects of metal roofs on antenna performace?

2013-07-04 Thread John Marvin
Sorry, that was not my intention. We all do stupid things. The 
intention of my post was not to say that what you did was stupid. My 
illustration particularly mentioned running high power, which you 
already said you had not done, as an extreme to illustrate the point.  
Insurance won't cover it if it is proved to be an intentional act, and 
even intentional acts are covered for kids up to a certain age.


The intention was to clear up the misconception that if one of our homes 
was damaged or destroyed by doing something that in hindsight might not 
have been the wisest thing, insurance still would cover it. But I can 
see that this discussion could turn off into a long discussion that has 
nothing to do with Elecraft or ham radio, so it should probably die 
right here.


73,

John
AC0ZG

On 7/4/2013 2:54 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:

Not sure I'm liking where this conversation is going. I answered the original poster's 
question as to whether a metal roof has been seen to adversely affect antenna 
performance, not advocate doing stupid things. My installation worked very 
well for me w/o running high power. I knew I WOULD be doing QRO after a new roof was 
installed and subsequently ran my feeder in an appropriate location.

Jim / W6JHB

On   Thursday, Jul 4, 2013, at  Thursday, 12:52 PM, John Marvin wrote:


I didn't see the original reply, but I just wanted to clear up one 
misconception. Homeowner's insurance covers stupidity. Unless it can be proved 
that you put that ladder line on the roof and ran high power through it with 
the intention of burning the house down, you would be covered.

73,
John
AC0ZG

On 7/4/2013 1:19 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:

Yes. Yes I was. :-)

On   Thursday, Jul 4, 2013, at  Thursday, 12:11 PM, Tom H Childers wrote:


You must have been running very low power.  Laying any kind of
ladder-line on a roof, insulated or not, is an excellent way to have
a house fire that the insurance company will not pay for. Especialy a
shake shingle roof.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

[snip]
73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member


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Re: [Elecraft] Noisy RX redux

2013-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

The most important part of determining which AGC settings will work for 
you is in the statement that you should not be listening for the noise 
neither with a signal active, nor with no signal - you want to listen 
for the K3 audio response between breaks in the received signal.


To a certain extent, the AGC settings that you would prefer depend on 
your operating preferences.  A CW operator who is doing contesting or 
DXing would like to have a difference between strong signals and weak 
ones, while a ragchewer would probably prefer to have most of the 
signals at the same audio level.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/4/2013 6:38 PM, Mike Reublin wrote:

Thanks, Don.

I played around with the AGC settings as you describe, and I can't say I found 
settings that made a difference. But I do have a tin ear.

You don't happen to remember where the DSP board mod is on the website, do you?

Mike

On Jul 4, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Mike Reublin n...@nf4l.com wrote:


Shortly after I got K3 3935 in Sept. of '09, the furor over noisy RX kinda 
peaked, and the result was a board swap.

A friend just bought a used K3 with a slightly earlier SN, and the RX 
background is very harsh and sharp sounding. We both came to Elecraft from a 
PRO II/III where the background in an A/B comparison is a soft 
swhsh.

I'd like to check and see if it has the same mod, but I've slept since then and 
cannot remember what the mod was called, or how to check for it. A tour of the 
mods page didn't kick my recaller into gear.

A related wish: List the serial number when a mod goes into production.

n unrelated wish: HAPPY 4th!

73, Mike NF4L



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Re: [Elecraft] Noisy RX redux

2013-07-04 Thread Bill

You may be interested in my solution:  http://www.w2blc.net/K3.htm

I am mostly an armchair copy inhabitant of 75 and 40 meters, hence the 
setup that I use.


Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 Setup For Contesting?

2013-07-04 Thread Jim Lowman

It's a matter of semantics.  This topic comes up every year.

ARRL can call it whatever they like, but if scores are posted in QST and 
winners are announced in various categories, it certainly functions like 
a contest.

If it walks like a duck...

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 7/3/2013 4:24 PM, Scotty Long wrote:

I said that and got laughed at...I beg to differ as it was key board to key 
board CW full contest mode rude operators on 20m...30 to 40+++ wpm CW... No 
casual fun operators it was full blow contest mode with everyone stepping on 
each other... Just saying ... This is from a rookie ham licensed about four 
years; that operates 99.9% other than optimal or nice operating conditions CW 
all the time not just ARRL Field Day...You definitely need a contest grade set 
up to compete in this non contest unless you work search and pounce during the 
full ARRL Field Day contest. My Elmer's have told me this as well, kinda sad. 
Try paper logging with a straight key or paddle running 22 wpm.  Maybe the 
other bands in the novice portions of the bands were better??? Who passes 
messages on CW nets at 40+++wpm... If I ever run field day again and have to 
run keyboards I'll use PSK31 or just use the cell phone and call around...Not 
being negative just personal observations... please don't take it

 t

  hat way... has it been this way from the beginning... ARRL does call it a 
special contest in some of their advertisements...

72/73

Scotty/NU0S

K1-4, #3206

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

georgefrit...@yahoo.com wrote:

br/Let us be reminded that Field Day is not a contest!br/br/George, 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Mil Specs

2013-07-04 Thread georgefritkin
Although Elecraft radios are great products, they are not Mil Spec whichever 
one you mean, there are many Mil Specs.br/br/George, 
W6GFbr/br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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[Elecraft] K1 with all options has rising crackling static cleared by transmitting

2013-07-04 Thread k1-4 user
Hello group

I
My K1-4 with 17m worked great on FD with  95% call to contact.
The only annoying thing is a crackling static that starts slowly but
crescendos quickly, is strong in strength, and is quieted by transmitting or
by pushing the menu button or selection of the next NB level including off.
Is distinguished easily from atmospheric qrn.
In normal active operation the t-r mutes the noise and more than slightly
desensitizes the receiver and cuts the static back until it cycles up again.

Any thoughts are appreciated

Robin



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Re: [Elecraft] K1 with all options has rising crackling static cleared by transmitting

2013-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

Robin,

I tried to reply to your earlier question, but since you posted to 
nabble only instead of the Elecraft reflector, I was not able to 
respond.  I do not subscribe to nabble and my response was rejected.  
Post to the Elecraft reflector to avoid that problem.


Such crackling static is usually from a local noise source rather than a 
problem in the K1 (or any other transceiver).  Yes, it will be muted 
during transmit, and if the noise is strong enough it will de-sense the 
receiver.


If the noise is heard when you are connected to a dummy load, then the 
problem is in the K1, but if it only occurs with an antenna connected, 
then it is a local noise source that is coming from your antenna.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/4/2013 11:34 PM, k1-4 user wrote:

Hello group

I
My K1-4 with 17m worked great on FD with  95% call to contact.
The only annoying thing is a crackling static that starts slowly but
crescendos quickly, is strong in strength, and is quieted by transmitting or
by pushing the menu button or selection of the next NB level including off.
Is distinguished easily from atmospheric qrn.
In normal active operation the t-r mutes the noise and more than slightly
desensitizes the receiver and cuts the static back until it cycles up again.

Any thoughts are appreciated

Robin




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