Re: [Elecraft] What do I do now?

2015-04-06 Thread Bill Frantz
In addition to the advice from everyone else, consider Fred 
Cady's book  E740241 or E740242 - The Elecraft KX3 http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#kx3.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 4/5/15 at 10:06 PM, mike...@gmail.com (WA7YET) wrote:


I purchased a KX3 when they were first introduced. Then life got in the way
and all non-essentials were put on hold. Now things have improved and I've
been thinking about breaking out my brand new KX3. What have I missed in
my absence, and whats the best way to bring this beauty up to speed? Thanks
in advance. Mike Eddy WA7YET


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Re: [Elecraft] What do I do now?

2015-04-06 Thread Phil Wheeler

I agree with Bill: Fred's books are all first rate.

Another thing you might want to do is call 
Elecraft tech support on the phone and ask them. 
They'll know your KX3 serial number and what you 
have in it, so are in the best position to advise 
you about any hardware updates, or add in boards 
you may want add.


Plus, if you've not done so, download the KX3 
utility and update your firmware to the latest 
released version.


Then, too, consider adding the PX3 to your KX3. 
With Fixed-Tune mode firmware nearing release, 
it's particularly valuable; the PX3 really 
enhances my use of the KX3.


73, Phil W7OX

On 4/6/15 11:25 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
In addition to the advice from everyone else, 
consider Fred Cady's book  E740241 or E740242 - 
The Elecraft KX3 
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#kx3. 



73 Bill AE6JV

On 4/5/15 at 10:06 PM, mike...@gmail.com 
(WA7YET) wrote:


I purchased a KX3 when they were first 
introduced. Then life got in the way
and all non-essentials were put on hold. Now 
things have improved and I've
been thinking about breaking out my brand new 
KX3. What have I missed in
my absence, and whats the best way to bring 
this beauty up to speed? Thanks

in advance. Mike Eddy WA7YET


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Re: [Elecraft] What do I do now?

2015-04-06 Thread Jim Brown

On Mon,4/6/2015 11:25 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
In addition to the advice from everyone else, consider Fred Cady's 
book  E740241 or E740242 - The Elecraft KX3 
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#kx3. 


It's always a good idea to study the manual that comes with any new 
product. In addition to the one in the box, Elecraft updates the 
manual every year or two and puts the newest version on the website as a 
pdf.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A Synthesizer problem?

2015-04-06 Thread Ross Primrose
It sounds like you've only put one new board in a 2RX K3.  I don't 
believe that's a supported configuration...


73, Ross N4RP

On 4/6/2015 7:01 PM, Roger D Johnson wrote:
My new boards arrived today. I popped one into the K3 for some 
testing. I was especially interested
in the low frequency performance as I like to DX the LF broadcasts 
from 153 to 279 kHz. What I found
was that below 400 kHz, the noise level rises and at 100 kHz it's 
almost 20 over 9 on the S meter!
I calibrated my NaP3 spectrum analyzer program and took some 
measurements of the noise level.


500 kHz  -127 dbm
400 -127
300 -124
200 -113
100 -93

That's a 34 db increase in noise level!! Is this the way the new 
boards are supposed to work?
I expected a decrease in sensitivity below 500 kHz but not this. Any 
ideas?


73, Roger

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[Elecraft] KSYN3A Synthesizer problem?

2015-04-06 Thread Roger D Johnson
My new boards arrived today. I popped one into the K3 for some testing. I was 
especially interested
in the low frequency performance as I like to DX the LF broadcasts from 153 to 
279 kHz. What I found
was that below 400 kHz, the noise level rises and at 100 kHz it's almost 20 over 
9 on the S meter!
I calibrated my NaP3 spectrum analyzer program and took some measurements of the 
noise level.


500 kHz  -127 dbm
400 -127
300 -124
200 -113
100 -93

That's a 34 db increase in noise level!! Is this the way the new boards are 
supposed to work?

I expected a decrease in sensitivity below 500 kHz but not this. Any ideas?

73, Roger

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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A Synthesizer problem?

2015-04-06 Thread Jim Brown

On Mon,4/6/2015 4:01 PM, Roger D Johnson wrote:

500 kHz  -127 dbm
400 -127
300 -124
200 -113
100 -93

That's a 34 db increase in noise level!! Is this the way the new 
boards are supposed to work? 


Is this with or without an antenna connected?  What's the nature of the 
noise on your spectrum analyzer? Broadband or with humps every 10-20 
kHz? Do the peaks drift? Remember that our world is full of switch-mode 
power supplies spewing out trash on harmonics of their square waves, and 
the lower we go in frequency, the stronger they are.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 no power

2015-04-06 Thread Keith Onishi
I have had similar problem before. Expertly helped by Elecraft support, I found 
the PIN diode on the RF board was broken.
I would suggest you to talk to Elecraft support.

73 de JH3SIF, Keith

 2015/04/05 8:06、Mike Reublin NF4L n...@comcast.net のメール:
 
 My K3 puts out no power in any mode, either on the SteppIR or into a dummy 
 load. It's not in test or split. TX INH is off. Holding tune results in the 
 LCD displaying 0 W, and the VFO A area changes to 2 dashes on the right, no 
 digits. Tune power is set to 50W, Power to 100W.
 
 A 50W TX Gain calibration passed, but still no joy.   
 
 It seems to be hearing OK.
 
 What have I fat fingered?
 
 73, Mike NF4L
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A Synthesizer problem?

2015-04-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Roger,

More on this...

Since KSYN3A buyers may not always see the FAQ, we'll be adding something like 
this to page 1 of the KSYN3A installation manual:

* * *

Note on K3 low-frequency (100-400 kHz) receive coverage with the KSYN3A 
installed:

With a KSYN3A installed, the K3 VFO can be tuned as low as 100 kHz. Sensitivity 
will be very good in the 600-meter band (470 kHz) if a KBPF3 filter module is 
installed, and the antenna is connected to either the RX ANT IN or XVTR IN jack 
on the KXV3 module. However, below 300 kHz, sensitivity starts to decrease 
quickly, because the K3's receiver was optimized for use on higher bands. 
Typical sensitivity at 300 kHz will be about -100 dBm. The preamp should be 
turned off at very low frequencies because it is not useful here; it will only 
increase noise level.

* * *

Let me know if you think further clarification would also be helpful.

Thanks,

Wayne
N6KR


On Apr 6, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Roger D Johnson n...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 My new boards arrived today. I popped one into the K3 for some testing. I was 
 especially interested
 in the low frequency performance as I like to DX the LF broadcasts from 153 
 to 279 kHz. What I found
 was that below 400 kHz, the noise level rises and at 100 kHz it's almost 20 
 over 9 on the S meter!
 I calibrated my NaP3 spectrum analyzer program and took some measurements of 
 the noise level.
 
 500 kHz  -127 dbm
 400 -127
 300 -124
 200 -113
 100 -93
 
 That's a 34 db increase in noise level!! Is this the way the new boards are 
 supposed to work?
 I expected a decrease in sensitivity below 500 kHz but not this. Any ideas?
 
 73, Roger
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A Synthesizer problem?

2015-04-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Roger,

The noise floor is coming up because the RX circuitry was optimized for use 
from 250 kHz and up. Multiple sources start contributing significant noise 
below 250 kHz.

Even though the new synth tunes down to 100 kHz, we tried to make it clear in 
the KSYN3A FAQ that the receiver isn't very sensitive in this range. It does 
very well in the 600-meter band (472 kHz), and has reasonable sensitivity in 
the 300-450 kHz range where there are many LF beacons.

To quote from the KSYN3A FAQ:

 Q: What is the K3's 100-490 kHz receive sensitivity?
 
 A: With preamp OFF, we measured about -125 dBm at 475 kHz

At 250 kHz the sensitivity is about 10-20 dB lower, and it will go down from 
there. Yours is better than our baseline measurement. 

The FAQ entry continues:

 We have not measured MDS below 250 kHz, but the receiver will gradually 
 become less sensitive as you go lower in frequency due to band-pass filter 
 roll off (in the KBPF3, which is required for operation below 160 meters). 
 These tests were made with the signal routed through the RX ANT IN or XVTR IN 
 jacks on the KXV3 option module.


It would be possible to redesign the KBPF3's lowest-frequency filter to improve 
sensitivity below 250 kHz. However, the receiver uses PIN diodes extensively, 
and the rolloff from this band-pass filter helps prevent intermod in the diodes.

I can see that we should clarify this topic further in the FAQ and installation 
manual.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Apr 6, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Roger D Johnson n...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 My new boards arrived today. I popped one into the K3 for some testing. I was 
 especially interested
 in the low frequency performance as I like to DX the LF broadcasts from 153 
 to 279 kHz. What I found
 was that below 400 kHz, the noise level rises and at 100 kHz it's almost 20 
 over 9 on the S meter!
 I calibrated my NaP3 spectrum analyzer program and took some measurements of 
 the noise level.
 
 500 kHz  -127 dbm
 400 -127
 300 -124
 200 -113
 100 -93
 
 That's a 34 db increase in noise level!! Is this the way the new boards are 
 supposed to work?
 I expected a decrease in sensitivity below 500 kHz but not this. Any ideas?
 
 73, Roger
 
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Re: [Elecraft] SSB net results, April 5, 2015

2015-04-06 Thread Phil Shepard
We typically have several relays.  Often in So CA, the midwest, TX and the East 
(GA on Sunday).  Anybody can jump in with relays they can hear.

A question was asked about the bicycle mobile station.  That is John, N6JW, in 
CA.  Not every week.

Phil


 On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Roger Stein burch.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Phil,
 
 Do you make it a practice to have a relay station listen for east coast 
 stations? It sounds from the mention of thanks to all the help you do.  
 
 I listen from time to time but mostly come up blank.
 
 Glad to hear you are healing, it takes time! A member of the Been there, 
 done that group!
 
 73, Roger K7SJ/VE1 Halifax NS, K3 #75
 formerly WA7BOC in WA.
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Phil Shepard ph...@riousa.com 
 mailto:ph...@riousa.com wrote:
 It is good to be healing and back on the SSB net.  Thanks for all of the 
 help.  We had 22 participants this week.
 
 Here are the stations:
 
 CallNameQTH RIG
 
 WD5MDavid   AZ  K3  6493
 WB9JNZ  EricIL  K3  4017
 WM6PSteve   GA  K3  8133
 KM4IK   Ian GA  K3  281
 N6JWJohnCA  K3  936
 KC0XT   David   CA  KX3 6980
 K5ZCJ   Larry   OK  K3  6592
 KD8DZ   MikeOH  K3  5905
 W0CZKen ND  K3  457
 K8NUCarlOH  K3  7976
 N4WCQ   RickKY  K3  8160
 W7QHD   KurtAZ  K2  1538
 W8OVDaveTX  K3  3139
 K7BRR   BillAZ  K3  5545
 WA0BEU  Keith   CO  KX3 7048QRP
 W0SGM   Scott   IA  K3  8898
 K6WDE/KH6   Steve   HI  KX3 4599QRP
 KC9LIF  KentIL  K2  6896  
   QRP
 W4DML   DougTN  K3  6433
 KF5YSZ  OronTX  K2  1682
 K4BKM   Brian   NC  K3  8893
 NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826
 
 73,
 Phil, NS7P
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] What do I do now?

2015-04-06 Thread WA7YET
Thank you everyone for all the great tips. I ordered Fred's book today and I
look forward to following the rest of your recommendations!

Listen for me soon from the middle of the Pacific!

Mike Eddy WA7YET
Maui, Hawaii



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Re: [Elecraft] What do I do now?

2015-04-06 Thread Matt VK2RQ
Download the Elecraft KX3 utility, and make a configuration backup before you 
do anything. Next, check the firmware version and upgrade that using the same 
utility. Read the manual and have a play with the functions to see what they 
do. Later on, you may want to do things like per-band I/Q nulling and 
temperature compensatin calibration procedures, but those can wait until you've 
had a chance to become more familiar with the radio. Enjoy!

73, Matt VK2RQ

 On 6 Apr 2015, at 2:06 pm, WA7YET mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I purchased a KX3 when they were first introduced. Then life got in the way
 and all non-essentials were put on hold. Now things have improved and I've
 been thinking about breaking out my brand new KX3. What have I missed in
 my absence, and whats the best way to bring this beauty up to speed? Thanks
 in advance. Mike Eddy WA7YET
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] What do I do now?

2015-04-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

You do not have to do much at all.
Download the latest KX3 Utility and then update to the latest firmware 
and operate.
Then at a more leisurely pace, go to the Elecraft website and review the 
KX3 hardware updates available - you do not have to do any of them 
unless you want to do it or have a particular problem associated with 
those upgrades.
Also review the KX3 Application Notes and do any of those that you would 
like.  There is one that you should check on before installing 
batteries, and that is the one dealing with the battery holder mounting 
screws - you may or may not have the problem mentioned.


You might also want to apply some epoxy glue around the input power 
jack, especially if you are not using the right angle power plug. The 
power jack on very early KX3s were not glued and the power jack could 
break away from the board causing intermittent power problems.  I did 
have that problem with mine.


I have the first KX3 that came off the production line and have not yet 
found the need to do any of the hardware upgrades, but I have done some 
of the procedures in the application note, not because it was needed, 
but I wanted to 'walk' through the procedure for the experience.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/6/2015 1:06 AM, WA7YET wrote:

I purchased a KX3 when they were first introduced. Then life got in the way
and all non-essentials were put on hold. Now things have improved and I've
been thinking about breaking out my brand new KX3. What have I missed in
my absence, and whats the best way to bring this beauty up to speed? Thanks
in advance. Mike Eddy WA7YET



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Re: [Elecraft] WTB Trimble ThunderBolt for K3EXREF / QS1R

2015-04-06 Thread David Anderson
Max,

I bought one of the BG7TBL GPSDO  from the same seller on eBay. I actually was 
just looking for a 10 MHz distribution amplifier and found that he was selling 
the GPSDO along with matching Distribution amp for a very good price. There 
were options of a square wave output version or a sine wave output (which is 
what I purchased). 

The 8 output Distribution amp also contains a Morion 10 MHz double oven 
oscillator as well, which takes over if the input signal from the GPSDO is 
disconnected.  

I was not aware the Morion oscillator was doubling the frequency to reach 10 
MHz, I have not found any documentation that mentions that anywhere else. The 
device is marked as 10 MHz.

The included 12 V power supplies work fine, however they are wall warts with I 
think American 2 pin plugs, which need adapters to fit UK mains sockets. You 
need a fair amount of current for the ovens when they are heating up, so cannot 
just substitute a 1 amp supply.

I opened up both units and the construction is very well done. No schematic or 
block diagram was supplied, though you can read what some of the chips are, in 
particular the GPS receiver is an NEO-6M. 

They may not satisfy the Time Nuts in every way, but they are good enough for 
for my uses as a stable 10 MHz for locking other oscillators.

There is also a serial port (at true RS-232 levels so beware if you try to 
connect it to something like an Arduino unless you build a level shifter). It 
outputs the usual GPS NMEA sentences.

I do have a another time and frequency standard which is an old HP Z3801A, it 
is probably better, but for my uses I would not be able to tell the difference. 
The HP is much larger, requires a 50 Volt supply so not nearly as portable. It 
also cost a lot more when I bought it on eBay quite a few years ago.


73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

 On 6 Apr 2015, at 00:44, M. George m.matthew.geo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 A follow up to my write up... I should have included more details from
 personal emails I received from Dave, G3TJP.  Bob W7AVK also mentioned the
 BG7TBL GPS Disciplined Clock and I totally got my wires crossed and didn't
 mention G3TJP in my write-up. Sigh  Apologies to Mr. Lankshear... Dave
 took some time in a personal email to point out the follow about the BG7TBL
 which is going for ~144.00 on ebay... it really is a nice package... here
 are some of Dave's comments (in hindsight, I wonder if this would have been
 the way to go):
 
 G3TJP: It’s a very neat and small unit, very professionally produced and
 comes complete with power supply and GPS antenna.  I bought one and then a
 second one as a gift to a good friend.  It uses the Morion double oven
 10MHz xtal oscillator, or equivalent.  The output is a decent sine wave
 with just enough distortion to give good harmonics at 10MHz intervals up to
 at least 50MHz, which is as far as I’ve checked.  The Morion is actually a
 5MHz oscillator that’s doubled to 10MHz, so you have a usable, locked
 signal at 5MHz also.
 
 Dave also mentioned that the seller 'fly-xy' is a decent guy and will ben
 over backwards to help you as you treat him fairly.  i.e. if something
 needs to be returned or corrected.  Plus, this unit is a turnkey package
 and he also sells a 10mhz distribution amplifier that looks interesting...
 another BG7TBL design.
 
 KE5FX has also reviewed Bob W7AVK's BG7TBL and has a nice comparison write
 up on his website (KE5FX of Lady Heather fame).  The comparison is easy to
 find on KE5FX's site.
 
 Again, thanks to everyone that had input... I tried to mention everyone
 that pointed me in the right direction off the list and leaving out Dave
 G3TJP was my mistake.
 
 Regards, Max NG7M
 
 
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[Elecraft] FS KRC2 kit

2015-04-06 Thread Dennis Ashworth
Purchased but never assembled. retail $159 ... $120 + shipping

Dennis, K7FL
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[Elecraft] P3SVGA Resolution

2015-04-06 Thread Paul Saffren

Hi Doug,

Those resolutions do not have to match your monitor exactly.  For 
example, you can run 1440x900 on a monitor that is capable of displaying 
1920x1080 or greater.Higher resolutions on the P3/SVGA will show 
more detail (more pixels per span) but require slower update rates (more 
FFT points).   For example I am using a monitor capable of much higher 
resolution, but operate the P3/SVGA at 1280x1024 or 1440x900 as these 
give plenty of detail with higher update rates.


-Paul

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[Elecraft] SSB net results, April 5, 2015

2015-04-06 Thread Phil Shepard
It is good to be healing and back on the SSB net.  Thanks for all of the help.  
We had 22 participants this week.

Here are the stations:

CallNameQTH RIG

WD5MDavid   AZ  K3  6493
WB9JNZ  EricIL  K3  4017
WM6PSteve   GA  K3  8133
KM4IK   Ian GA  K3  281
N6JWJohnCA  K3  936
KC0XT   David   CA  KX3 6980
K5ZCJ   Larry   OK  K3  6592
KD8DZ   MikeOH  K3  5905
W0CZKen ND  K3  457
K8NUCarlOH  K3  7976
N4WCQ   RickKY  K3  8160
W7QHD   KurtAZ  K2  1538
W8OVDaveTX  K3  3139
K7BRR   BillAZ  K3  5545
WA0BEU  Keith   CO  KX3 7048QRP
W0SGM   Scott   IA  K3  8898
K6WDE/KH6   Steve   HI  KX3 4599QRP
KC9LIF  KentIL  K2  6896
QRP
W4DML   DougTN  K3  6433
KF5YSZ  OronTX  K2  1682
K4BKM   Brian   NC  K3  8893
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

73,
Phil, NS7P


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[Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit?

2015-04-06 Thread J
Can someone furnish the exact unlocked or MARS transmit frequency
specifications for the K2, KX3 and K3?  

 

I think some of these radios may have gaps - due to RF filtering, IF, etc.

 

Also, what about the unlocked transmit specs for VHF in these radios?

 

Thanks,

 

Jay

W6CJ

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Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit?

2015-04-06 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Jay,

I use my older K3 and a newer one on MARS frequencies.  The KX3 is
used as a MARS ECOM / mobile unit with the KXPA100 amp.

The K3 has a TX donut hole around the 8.2 MHz IF.  I think TX is
locked out from 7.5 to 9.0 MHz (if memory serves).  The KX3 has no
such restriction, being a Zero IF transceiver.

Elecraft customer support can assist you with the unlock programs
needed.  You may have to supply your MARS credentials, but I'm not
sure how that is handled today.  It's been a while since I unlocked my
radios here.

Except for the K3's IF range, I've found no problems with TX and RX
from around 2.8 MHz to 25 MHz.  KBPF3 use is recommended though, so
that you have enough gain between ham bands.  Otherwise, the
sensitivity falls off in between bands.  Note: There is very little
MARS / SHARES activity above 20 MHz.

I'm also using the KX3's 2m module to work an above-and-below MARS VHF
repeater split, plus the odd set of simplex frequencies NMCM has
around 2m.

Again, from memory, Elecraft specifies performance inside the ham
bands.  I don't believe there are any published specs for general
coverage.  I haven't found any problems with between-band operation -
plenty of sensitivity and dynamic range, etc.

73!
matt W6NIA / NNN0UET



On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 09:37:12 -0700, you wrote:

Can someone furnish the exact unlocked or MARS transmit frequency
specifications for the K2, KX3 and K3?  

 

I think some of these radios may have gaps - due to RF filtering, IF, etc.

 

Also, what about the unlocked transmit specs for VHF in these radios?

 

Thanks,

 

Jay

W6CJ

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Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit?

2015-04-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jay,

The K2 is ham bands only, but it will tune (and transmit) slightly 
outside the ham bands - how far depends on the particular K2.  There is 
no way to open it up further.


The K3 blocks transmit (and receive) in the region of the 1st IF at 
8.215 kHz - I forget how wide the guard band really is.
The CB band at 25MHz is also blocked.  If you must operate well outside 
the ham bands, you may want to install the KBPF3 option because the 
stock bandpass filters are peaked in the ham bands and receive will fall 
off as you move further away from the ham band edges.


The KX3 can be opened for transmit (except for the CB band) most 
anywhere in the RF spectrum.


If you have a valid need to transmit outside the ham bands (MARS 
licensee or other), contact K3support to obtain the instructions.


I do not know about the unlocked VHF spectrum.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/6/2015 12:37 PM, J wrote:

Can someone furnish the exact unlocked or MARS transmit frequency
specifications for the K2, KX3 and K3?

  


I think some of these radios may have gaps - due to RF filtering, IF, etc.

  


Also, what about the unlocked transmit specs for VHF in these radios?

  



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