Re: [Elecraft] WTB Trimble ThunderBolt for K3EXREF / QS1R
A caveat regarding the use of simple wall wart 12v PS for supplying a OCXO. I am using a Morion OCXO as 10-MHz reference for my K3EXREF and for my synthesized A32 PLL in my DEMI 1296 transverter. I got reports of 120-Hz sidebands on my signal (-10dBc) turned out to be due to excessive AC ripple riding on the 12v coming from my wall wart supply that I was using to power the OCXO. Using a scope I measured half a volt ripple on the 12v dc output. Substituting a clean 12v PS eliminated the sidebands. So be careful if you use a wall wart (many rectify with no dc filtering). I had a 17AH battery being charged by the wall wart which I assumed would present some filtering if 12v ran thru the battery to the OCXO. I could have added a large value electrolytic cap to do the filtering but I changed dc source to a well filtered Astron PS. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WTB Trimble ThunderBolt for K3EXREF / QS1R
On Tue,4/7/2015 12:31 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: A caveat regarding the use of simple wall wart 12v PS for supplying a OCXO. Wall warts, especially those with switching power supplies, are ALWAYS a BAD thing, thanks to the RFI they generate. A GOOD thing -- a LINEAR supply, wall wart or otherwise, float-charging a battery, where the battery voltage is what the equipment needs, and the current from the wall wart is about 30% more than what it takes to run the equipment. No hum, no buzz, no RFI, and you've got a UPS in the form of that battery. ALL of the stuff in my home (with the exception of a TV and associated A/V gear) runs on that kind of charger-battery system. The only noise I hear is from my neighbors. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit?
Hello, Just for me as a Kraut, what is MARS? Christian Von meinem iPad gesendet Am 06.04.2015 um 19:04 schrieb Matt Zilmer mzil...@roadrunner.com: Hi Jay, I use my older K3 and a newer one on MARS frequencies. The KX3 is used as a MARS ECOM / mobile unit with the KXPA100 amp. The K3 has a TX donut hole around the 8.2 MHz IF. I think TX is locked out from 7.5 to 9.0 MHz (if memory serves). The KX3 has no such restriction, being a Zero IF transceiver. Elecraft customer support can assist you with the unlock programs needed. You may have to supply your MARS credentials, but I'm not sure how that is handled today. It's been a while since I unlocked my radios here. Except for the K3's IF range, I've found no problems with TX and RX from around 2.8 MHz to 25 MHz. KBPF3 use is recommended though, so that you have enough gain between ham bands. Otherwise, the sensitivity falls off in between bands. Note: There is very little MARS / SHARES activity above 20 MHz. I'm also using the KX3's 2m module to work an above-and-below MARS VHF repeater split, plus the odd set of simplex frequencies NMCM has around 2m. Again, from memory, Elecraft specifies performance inside the ham bands. I don't believe there are any published specs for general coverage. I haven't found any problems with between-band operation - plenty of sensitivity and dynamic range, etc. 73! matt W6NIA / NNN0UET On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 09:37:12 -0700, you wrote: Can someone furnish the exact unlocked or MARS transmit frequency specifications for the K2, KX3 and K3? I think some of these radios may have gaps - due to RF filtering, IF, etc. Also, what about the unlocked transmit specs for VHF in these radios? Thanks, Jay W6CJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mzil...@roadrunner.com Matt Zilmer, W6NIA -- Always store beer in a dark place. -R. Heinlein __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dg5...@web.de __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit?
A longer version of EME? No it stands for Military Amateur Radio Service. Before fiber optics made overseas calling cheap most US overseas bases had a MARS station to facilitate phone patches to the dependents. Now they are mostly an emergency backup or auxiliary. 73 Fred, AE6QL -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of web.de Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 1:53 AM To: mzil...@roadrunner.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? Hello, Just for me as a Kraut, what is MARS? Christian Von meinem iPad gesendet Am 06.04.2015 um 19:04 schrieb Matt Zilmer mzil...@roadrunner.com: Hi Jay, I use my older K3 and a newer one on MARS frequencies. The KX3 is used as a MARS ECOM / mobile unit with the KXPA100 amp. The K3 has a TX donut hole around the 8.2 MHz IF. I think TX is locked out from 7.5 to 9.0 MHz (if memory serves). The KX3 has no such restriction, being a Zero IF transceiver. Elecraft customer support can assist you with the unlock programs needed. You may have to supply your MARS credentials, but I'm not sure how that is handled today. It's been a while since I unlocked my radios here. Except for the K3's IF range, I've found no problems with TX and RX from around 2.8 MHz to 25 MHz. KBPF3 use is recommended though, so that you have enough gain between ham bands. Otherwise, the sensitivity falls off in between bands. Note: There is very little MARS / SHARES activity above 20 MHz. I'm also using the KX3's 2m module to work an above-and-below MARS VHF repeater split, plus the odd set of simplex frequencies NMCM has around 2m. Again, from memory, Elecraft specifies performance inside the ham bands. I don't believe there are any published specs for general coverage. I haven't found any problems with between-band operation - plenty of sensitivity and dynamic range, etc. 73! matt W6NIA / NNN0UET On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 09:37:12 -0700, you wrote: Can someone furnish the exact unlocked or MARS transmit frequency specifications for the K2, KX3 and K3? I think some of these radios may have gaps - due to RF filtering, IF, etc. Also, what about the unlocked transmit specs for VHF in these radios? Thanks, Jay W6CJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mzil...@roadrunner.com Matt Zilmer, W6NIA -- Always store beer in a dark place. -R. Heinlein __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dg5...@web.de __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fptowns...@earthlink.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 plus KPA/KAT for sale. PRICE REDUCED!
Now offered at $1400! Description and photos: http://www.cvkimball.com/QRP/K2/K2.html http://www.cvkimball.com/QRP/K2/K2.html . -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-plus-KPA-KAT-for-sale-tp7600933p7601062.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit?
I think it's actually Military Affiliate Radio System, but your explaination is correct. If you look at the official emblems, it is spelled out, although the words Amateur or Auxilliary are also commonly interchanged for Affiliate. (Another possibility is a connection with the Barsoomian Radio Society) 73, Charlie k3ICH - Original Message - From: Fred Townsend fptowns...@earthlink.net To: 'web.de' dg5...@web.de; mzil...@roadrunner.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? A longer version of EME? No it stands for Military Amateur Radio Service. Before fiber optics made overseas calling cheap most US overseas bases had a MARS station to facilitate phone patches to the dependents. Now they are mostly an emergency backup or auxiliary. 73 Fred, AE6QL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] What do I do now?
So, how do you have time for ham radio when you are a stone's throw from the water on Maui? ! I will listen for you, Hawaii comes into the Seattle area like gangbusters usually. 73, phil, K7PEH K3, KX3, KX1 On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:57 PM, WA7YET mike...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you everyone for all the great tips. I ordered Fred's book today and I look forward to following the rest of your recommendations! Listen for me soon from the middle of the Pacific! Mike Eddy WA7YET Maui, Hawaii -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/What-do-I-do-now-tp7601036p7601057.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit?
Military Auxiliary Radio System. 73, matt W6NIA On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:53:26 +0200, you wrote: Hello, Just for me as a Kraut, what is MARS? Christian Von meinem iPad gesendet Am 06.04.2015 um 19:04 schrieb Matt Zilmer mzil...@roadrunner.com: Hi Jay, I use my older K3 and a newer one on MARS frequencies. The KX3 is used as a MARS ECOM / mobile unit with the KXPA100 amp. The K3 has a TX donut hole around the 8.2 MHz IF. I think TX is locked out from 7.5 to 9.0 MHz (if memory serves). The KX3 has no such restriction, being a Zero IF transceiver. Elecraft customer support can assist you with the unlock programs needed. You may have to supply your MARS credentials, but I'm not sure how that is handled today. It's been a while since I unlocked my radios here. Except for the K3's IF range, I've found no problems with TX and RX from around 2.8 MHz to 25 MHz. KBPF3 use is recommended though, so that you have enough gain between ham bands. Otherwise, the sensitivity falls off in between bands. Note: There is very little MARS / SHARES activity above 20 MHz. I'm also using the KX3's 2m module to work an above-and-below MARS VHF repeater split, plus the odd set of simplex frequencies NMCM has around 2m. Again, from memory, Elecraft specifies performance inside the ham bands. I don't believe there are any published specs for general coverage. I haven't found any problems with between-band operation - plenty of sensitivity and dynamic range, etc. 73! matt W6NIA / NNN0UET On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 09:37:12 -0700, you wrote: Can someone furnish the exact unlocked or MARS transmit frequency specifications for the K2, KX3 and K3? I think some of these radios may have gaps - due to RF filtering, IF, etc. Also, what about the unlocked transmit specs for VHF in these radios? Thanks, Jay W6CJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mzil...@roadrunner.com Matt Zilmer, W6NIA -- Always store beer in a dark place. -R. Heinlein __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dg5...@web.de Matt Zilmer, W6NIA -- Always store beer in a dark place. -R. Heinlein __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] What do I do now?
Paddle Board Portable, Phil? :-) Phil W7OX On 4/7/15 7:10 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: So, how do you have time for ham radio when you are a stone's throw from the water on Maui? ! I will listen for you, Hawaii comes into the Seattle area like gangbusters usually. 73, phil, K7PEH K3, KX3, KX1 On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:57 PM, WA7YET mike...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you everyone for all the great tips. I ordered Fred's book today and I look forward to following the rest of your recommendations! Listen for me soon from the middle of the Pacific! Mike Eddy WA7YET Maui, Hawaii __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit?
Wikipedia has a pretty good explanation on the history and current mission of the MARS services: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Auxiliary_Radio_System On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Matt Zilmer mzil...@roadrunner.com wrote: Military Auxiliary Radio System. 73, matt W6NIA On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:53:26 +0200, you wrote: Hello, Just for me as a Kraut, what is MARS? Christian Von meinem iPad gesendet Am 06.04.2015 um 19:04 schrieb Matt Zilmer mzil...@roadrunner.com: Hi Jay, I use my older K3 and a newer one on MARS frequencies. The KX3 is used as a MARS ECOM / mobile unit with the KXPA100 amp. The K3 has a TX donut hole around the 8.2 MHz IF. I think TX is locked out from 7.5 to 9.0 MHz (if memory serves). The KX3 has no such restriction, being a Zero IF transceiver. Elecraft customer support can assist you with the unlock programs needed. You may have to supply your MARS credentials, but I'm not sure how that is handled today. It's been a while since I unlocked my radios here. Except for the K3's IF range, I've found no problems with TX and RX from around 2.8 MHz to 25 MHz. KBPF3 use is recommended though, so that you have enough gain between ham bands. Otherwise, the sensitivity falls off in between bands. Note: There is very little MARS / SHARES activity above 20 MHz. I'm also using the KX3's 2m module to work an above-and-below MARS VHF repeater split, plus the odd set of simplex frequencies NMCM has around 2m. Again, from memory, Elecraft specifies performance inside the ham bands. I don't believe there are any published specs for general coverage. I haven't found any problems with between-band operation - plenty of sensitivity and dynamic range, etc. 73! matt W6NIA / NNN0UET On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 09:37:12 -0700, you wrote: Can someone furnish the exact unlocked or MARS transmit frequency specifications for the K2, KX3 and K3? I think some of these radios may have gaps - due to RF filtering, IF, etc. Also, what about the unlocked transmit specs for VHF in these radios? Thanks, Jay W6CJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mzil...@roadrunner.com Matt Zilmer, W6NIA -- Always store beer in a dark place. -R. Heinlein __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dg5...@web.de Matt Zilmer, W6NIA -- Always store beer in a dark place. -R. Heinlein __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ae...@worldwidedx.com -- Owner, worldwidedx.com AE6LX, Amateur Radio NNN0ITA, Navy MARS NNN0GAF FOUR, Southern CA Director Assistant for Training, Navy MARS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Remote Rig settings
Anyone have any idea what setting on either the remote rig client/server would prevent a K3/0 from turning on the K3? If the K3 at the remote site is turned on, then the K3/0 client will connect just fine. The K3/0 can then turn off the K3 as well, but then is unable to turn the K3 back on. Had all this working, but had to tear down the station to take it on an expedition. Now things no longer work. :-( -rob N7QT Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? MARS
...Military Amateur Radio System... ...Military Affiliate Radio System... ...Military Auxiliary Radio System... MARS has stood for *all three* of the above proposed phrases since its creation after WWII for the Army and (later) Air Force as a formal organization of military and amateur stations operating on military frequencies to handle written and phone patch traffic for military servicemen. Because an amateur license was used only as an individual's technical qualification for membership while MARS conducted none of its business on amateur frequencies, AMATEUR was changed to AFFILIATE shortly thereafter. The Navy/Marine Corps finally created its own MARS in the early 1960s. Throughout the first 25 years of MARS's existence the primary task was to serve the serviceman as one of the limited means he had to communicate rapidly with his family. That mission was last carried out to any great extent during the Vietnam war. MARS has had to create an Emergency Communications mission to justify its existence since. About a decade ago, for reasons best understood by builders of bureaucr acies, AFFILIATE was changed to AUXILIARY. MARS HF gear as yet does not need to meet NTIA specs. Once CAP was often cited along with MARS...the Civil Air Patrol operates HF/VHF nets similar to MARS, on Air Force frequencies. But about a decade ago CAP required communications equipment to meet NTIA specs...something no ham gear is going to meet. With respect to the issue of a manufacturer artficially limiting the transmit frequency coverage of its equipment to ham bands only, I find such an attitude paternalistic and condescending. It plainly conveys the attitude that the customer is too stupid to avoid improper or illegal operation of the equipment. There should be a menu item that allows either full or ham-band-only coverage. That is all. I have over several decades found full band transmit coverage to be routinely useful for test signal generation in addition to MARS work. The manufacturer should not presume to become enforcer of regulations. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Remote Rig settings
Can you use a browser to look at the radio RRC at the transmitter site? Look at the status information before and after connecting and that may suggest a cure. The radio status will show OFF even when you are connected with the K3/0, at least it does on my setup. See especially in radio settings the program mode which should probably be 14 Elecraft Twin in your setup. Also try using the 'disconnect' button on the status page and then connecting again with the K3/0. 73 John N5CQ -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Fanfant Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:43 PM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Rig settings Anyone have any idea what setting on either the remote rig client/server would prevent a K3/0 from turning on the K3? If the K3 at the remote site is turned on, then the K3/0 client will connect just fine. The K3/0 can then turn off the K3 as well, but then is unable to turn the K3 back on. Had all this working, but had to tear down the station to take it on an expedition. Now things no longer work. :-( -rob N7QT Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jlangd...@austin.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] FS:W2 WATTMETER W/2 Couplers
Selling my factory W2 wattmeter W/ 2 couplers.1.8to54mhz 2000watts and the 144-450 mhz 200 watts.As new conditionl.Price is $230.00 shipped.PayPal ok.Contact off list to my QRZ email address.Thanks George wb5xx __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] W2 Wattmeter
The W2 wattmeter has been sold.Thankks to all. George wb5xx __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? MARS
Or the manufacturer wishes to meet FCC type acceptance specs for sales in the USA and does not wish to be named as a party to any illegal operations; that is as far as they can reasonably be expected to go. There is nothing artificial about it. What you find useful may not meet the above legal requirements. Rick nhc On 4/7/2015 11:48 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: With respect to the issue of a manufacturer artficially limiting the transmit frequency coverage of its equipment to ham bands only, I find such an attitude paternalistic and condescending. It plainly conveys the attitude that the customer is too stupid to avoid improper or illegal operation of the equipment. There should be a menu item that allows either full or ham-band-only coverage. That is all. I have over several decades found full band transmit coverage to be routinely useful for test signal generation in addition to MARS work. The manufacturer should not presume to become enforcer of regulations. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? MARS
Menu item is a great idea. Competition equipment could be modified also easily. 73, István ha4zd On 07/04/2015 20:48, Mike Morrow wrote: ...Military Amateur Radio System... ...Military Affiliate Radio System... ...Military Auxiliary Radio System... MARS has stood for *all three* of the above proposed phrases since its creation after WWII for the Army and (later) Air Force as a formal organization of military and amateur stations operating on military frequencies to handle written and phone patch traffic for military servicemen. Because an amateur license was used only as an individual's technical qualification for membership while MARS conducted none of its business on amateur frequencies, AMATEUR was changed to AFFILIATE shortly thereafter. The Navy/Marine Corps finally created its own MARS in the early 1960s. Throughout the first 25 years of MARS's existence the primary task was to serve the serviceman as one of the limited means he had to communicate rapidly with his family. That mission was last carried out to any great extent during the Vietnam war. MARS has had to create an Emergency Communications mission to justify its existence since. About a decade ago, for reasons best understood by builders of bureaucr acies, AFFILIATE was changed to AUXILIARY. MARS HF gear as yet does not need to meet NTIA specs. Once CAP was often cited along with MARS...the Civil Air Patrol operates HF/VHF nets similar to MARS, on Air Force frequencies. But about a decade ago CAP required communications equipment to meet NTIA specs...something no ham gear is going to meet. With respect to the issue of a manufacturer artficially limiting the transmit frequency coverage of its equipment to ham bands only, I find such an attitude paternalistic and condescending. It plainly conveys the attitude that the customer is too stupid to avoid improper or illegal operation of the equipment. There should be a menu item that allows either full or ham-band-only coverage. That is all. I have over several decades found full band transmit coverage to be routinely useful for test signal generation in addition to MARS work. The manufacturer should not presume to become enforcer of regulations. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ha...@t-online.hu -- Árva a fehér nyúl, Keletre jár, nyugatra néz, Jó a ruha, míg új, De emberből, ki barát rég. („茕茕白兔，东走西顾，衣不如新，人不如故) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? MARS
I used to be a Mars Operator many years ago while in the Navy. (I was a shipboard MARS operator). I do agree that it should be a Menu item, Having to get approval from the manufacturer for a piece of equipment that I Own does not sit well with me. (and is the reason I refuse to do business with another well know radio vendor, over this very point). From: Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net To: Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? MARS ...Military Amateur Radio System... ...Military Affiliate Radio System... ...Military Auxiliary Radio System... MARS has stood for *all three* of the above proposed phrases since its creation after WWII for the Army and (later) Air Force as a formal organization of military and amateur stations operating on military frequencies to handle written and phone patch traffic for military servicemen. Because an amateur license was used only as an individual's technical qualification for membership while MARS conducted none of its business on amateur frequencies, AMATEUR was changed to AFFILIATE shortly thereafter. The Navy/Marine Corps finally created its own MARS in the early 1960s. Throughout the first 25 years of MARS's existence the primary task was to serve the serviceman as one of the limited means he had to communicate rapidly with his family. That mission was last carried out to any great extent during the Vietnam war. MARS has had to create an Emergency Communications mission to justify its existence since. About a decade ago, for reasons best understood by builders of bureaucr acies, AFFILIATE was changed to AUXILIARY. MARS HF gear as yet does not need to meet NTIA specs. Once CAP was often cited along with MARS...the Civil Air Patrol operates HF/VHF nets similar to MARS, on Air Force frequencies. But about a decade ago CAP required communications equipment to meet NTIA specs...something no ham gear is going to meet. With respect to the issue of a manufacturer artficially limiting the transmit frequency coverage of its equipment to ham bands only, I find such an attitude paternalistic and condescending. It plainly conveys the attitude that the customer is too stupid to avoid improper or illegal operation of the equipment. There should be a menu item that allows either full or ham-band-only coverage. That is all. I have over several decades found full band transmit coverage to be routinely useful for test signal generation in addition to MARS work. The manufacturer should not presume to become enforcer of regulations. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? MARS
Elecraft sells ham radios. If you have a MARS license Elecraft will provide you will instructions to enable that on your K3 or KX3. There have been no reports from someone with a legitimate MARS license being denied that support from elecraft. All it takes is an email or call to tech support. Give it a rest. Sent from my iPad On Apr 7, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Denis Dimick dgdim...@gmail.com wrote: If you can't hack it you don't really own it, your just renting it. On 7 Apr 2015 15:32, Harry Yingst via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I used to be a Mars Operator many years ago while in the Navy. (I was a shipboard MARS operator). I do agree that it should be a Menu item, Having to get approval from the manufacturer for a piece of equipment that I Own does not sit well with me. (and is the reason I refuse to do business with another well know radio vendor, over this very point). From: Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net To: Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? MARS ...Military Amateur Radio System... ...Military Affiliate Radio System... ...Military Auxiliary Radio System... MARS has stood for *all three* of the above proposed phrases since its creation after WWII for the Army and (later) Air Force as a formal organization of military and amateur stations operating on military frequencies to handle written and phone patch traffic for military servicemen. Because an amateur license was used only as an individual's technical qualification for membership while MARS conducted none of its business on amateur frequencies, AMATEUR was changed to AFFILIATE shortly thereafter. The Navy/Marine Corps finally created its own MARS in the early 1960s. Throughout the first 25 years of MARS's existence the primary task was to serve the serviceman as one of the limited means he had to communicate rapidly with his family. That mission was last carried out to any great extent during the Vietnam war. MARS has had to create an Emergency Communications mission to justify its existence since. About a decade ago, for reasons best understood by builders of bureaucr acies, AFFILIATE was changed to AUXILIARY. MARS HF gear as yet does not need to meet NTIA specs. Once CAP was often cited along with MARS...the Civil Air Patrol operates HF/VHF nets similar to MARS, on Air Force frequencies. But about a decade ago CAP required communications equipment to meet NTIA specs...something no ham gear is going to meet. With respect to the issue of a manufacturer artficially limiting the transmit frequency coverage of its equipment to ham bands only, I find such an attitude paternalistic and condescending. It plainly conveys the attitude that the customer is too stupid to avoid improper or illegal operation of the equipment. There should be a menu item that allows either full or ham-band-only coverage. That is all. I have over several decades found full band transmit coverage to be routinely useful for test signal generation in addition to MARS work. The manufacturer should not presume to become enforcer of regulations. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dgdim...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w4...@sandersweb.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? MARS
If you can't hack it you don't really own it, your just renting it. On 7 Apr 2015 15:32, Harry Yingst via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I used to be a Mars Operator many years ago while in the Navy. (I was a shipboard MARS operator). I do agree that it should be a Menu item, Having to get approval from the manufacturer for a piece of equipment that I Own does not sit well with me. (and is the reason I refuse to do business with another well know radio vendor, over this very point). From: Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net To: Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2-30 MHz Transmit? MARS ...Military Amateur Radio System... ...Military Affiliate Radio System... ...Military Auxiliary Radio System... MARS has stood for *all three* of the above proposed phrases since its creation after WWII for the Army and (later) Air Force as a formal organization of military and amateur stations operating on military frequencies to handle written and phone patch traffic for military servicemen. Because an amateur license was used only as an individual's technical qualification for membership while MARS conducted none of its business on amateur frequencies, AMATEUR was changed to AFFILIATE shortly thereafter. The Navy/Marine Corps finally created its own MARS in the early 1960s. Throughout the first 25 years of MARS's existence the primary task was to serve the serviceman as one of the limited means he had to communicate rapidly with his family. That mission was last carried out to any great extent during the Vietnam war. MARS has had to create an Emergency Communications mission to justify its existence since. About a decade ago, for reasons best understood by builders of bureaucr acies, AFFILIATE was changed to AUXILIARY. MARS HF gear as yet does not need to meet NTIA specs. Once CAP was often cited along with MARS...the Civil Air Patrol operates HF/VHF nets similar to MARS, on Air Force frequencies. But about a decade ago CAP required communications equipment to meet NTIA specs...something no ham gear is going to meet. With respect to the issue of a manufacturer artficially limiting the transmit frequency coverage of its equipment to ham bands only, I find such an attitude paternalistic and condescending. It plainly conveys the attitude that the customer is too stupid to avoid improper or illegal operation of the equipment. There should be a menu item that allows either full or ham-band-only coverage. That is all. I have over several decades found full band transmit coverage to be routinely useful for test signal generation in addition to MARS work. The manufacturer should not presume to become enforcer of regulations. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dgdim...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] F/S K2/100 + KAT100
K2/100 with SSB, 160m, DSP, NB, KAF, QRP lid, Nifty manual and KAT100 tuner. Modified by W3FPR with Z1 K2 IF buffer for LP-Pan or P3. Updated as of Aug 2013 by W3FPR who also performed alignment and calibration procedures. Printed results upon request. Also Powerport Dxpedition Pack, including radio box for K2. Package deal $1369 includes shipping CONUS. Will consider selling KAT100 and Dxpedition Pack separately. Equipment at family home nr Miami. Money order or check, sri no PayPal. Tel:305-767-1927 73 Tom CX7TT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
