[Elecraft] K3EXREF Ext. Frequency Reference Input

[Mike VE3YF]

Hi:

Has anyone used or had experience using the K3EXREF with this item as the 10Mhz 
source:

Trimble GPS Receiver GPSDO 10MHz 1PPS GPS Disciplined Clock with RS232 Port

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trimble-GPS-Receiver-GPSDO-10MHz-1PPS-GPS-Disciplined-Clock-with-rs232-port-/252162780444?hash=item3ab612ad1c:g:udkAAOSwhcJWQCPM

It looks like it would be a nice 10Mhz source for the K3WXREF and the K3, but 
unfamiliar with this product. Welcome all comments good or bad.


73 De Mike
VE3YF

http://www.ve3yf.com
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[Elecraft] K3IOB What do I gain by upgrading?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

I was curious as to what I would truly gain if I upgrade my K3 to the new K3IOB?


Thank you

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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B Audio Spec

[Lyle Johnson]

The USB CODEC chip is 16 bit.  The sample rate is set by the attached 
PC, but is usually 44.1 kHz or 48 kHz.


73,

Lyle KK7P


Any info on the audio bit depth and sample rate?


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Re: [Elecraft] Chasing Ghosts (Alarm Bypassing)

[Jim Brown]

On Sat,12/19/2015 12:04 PM, kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:

Jim… I think you were the guy that presented at our EMC meeting a long time ago 
here in Chicago if.. my memory is correct…
(I have been the Chairman of our EMC MiniSymposium here in Chicago for the past 
18 years…)


Yes, that was me. Thanks for compliment. And I have often cited a 
program that you probably organized for the EMC group that I think was 
called Tales From the Trenches, or something like that. It was a dozen 
or so technical war stories of how each of the presenters solved an 
interesting problem. I learned a lot from it, and was able to contribute 
some thoughts to the group about one or two of them. This was one of the 
very best technical presentations I've ever attended. Right up there 
with one for the Audio Engineering Society that demonstrated a history 
of cinema sound at the Academy Theatre in Hollywood, another at an AES 
Conference in Nashville on all the different kinds of distortion in 
audio, and a talk at an AES Convention in Amsterdam by Ray Dolby on the 
history of Dolby.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3

[Brian Hunt]

I do pretty much what you want to do: use N1MM+ and paddle/external keyer. 

I have: paddle connected directly to the K3; QSK selected; VOX selected; 
PTT/KEY set to off/dtr; and N1MM+ keying through the serial port dtr line. It 
gives full QSK to hear other stations between characters. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ
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[Elecraft] KIO3B Audio Spec

[Mike Harris]

Any info on the audio bit depth and sample rate?

Regards,

Mike VP8NO
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B pricing

[Oliver Dröse]

Eric,

interestingly I didn't get your mail yet, neither the direct one nor 
that via the reflector although Chas already responded to it. Who knows 
... so will pick his one to answer. Thanks for the explaination. The 
insight is much appreciated although not what I wanted to hear. ;-) Will 
make up my mind again during Christmas ... maybe Santa will be generous. 
;-) Otherwise as said before I can live with the "old" one plus external 
USB card ... as I do with the old synth boards ...


73, Olli

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de


Am 19.12.2015 um 22:58 schrieb Charlie T, K3ICH:

You make a very good case for buying a new K3s.
I chose that route, and after all the finagling and swapping, it cost me under 
$500 to go from a 2007 K3 to a brandie new 2015 K3s.
Heckuva deal if you axe me.

I must add that the recovered audio is absolutely THE best I've heard from any 
transceiver.
Even with a pair of mediocre speakers, it sounds great.

Chas

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric 
Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:50 PM
To: Oliver Dröse 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B pricing (was: Re: K3IOB)

Hi Olli,

Yes, 389.95 is the correct price.

This is not a single board. It is a three board set that costs much more than 
our old KIO3B to manufacture.  The board set also now contains a new USB Codec, 
USB Comm port, Internal USB hub and additional logic to handle routing of data 
between the USB and RS-232 paths (all fitting into the same space as the old 
boards). The upgrade kit also includes two external cables (one custom), new hw 
etc.  These boards are also manufactured at a much lower volume than those in 
the PC market, with the subsequent increased cost on our end. A $200 price 
would be selling at a significant loss.

Our goal is always to price our products as reasonably as possible after taking 
into account our production and support costs while making enough profit to 
continue to exist and serve the amateur radio market. We walk that line 
carefully every day. And its always a challenge! :-)

73,

Eric
elecraft.com


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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B pricing (was: Re: K3IOB)

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

You make a very good case for buying a new K3s.  
I chose that route, and after all the finagling and swapping, it cost me under 
$500 to go from a 2007 K3 to a brandie new 2015 K3s.  
Heckuva deal if you axe me. 

I must add that the recovered audio is absolutely THE best I've heard from any 
transceiver.
Even with a pair of mediocre speakers, it sounds great.

Chas

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric 
Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 3:50 PM
To: Oliver Dröse 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B pricing (was: Re: K3IOB)

Hi Olli,

Yes, 389.95 is the correct price. 

This is not a single board. It is a three board set that costs much more than 
our old KIO3B to manufacture.  The board set also now contains a new USB Codec, 
USB Comm port, Internal USB hub and additional logic to handle routing of data 
between the USB and RS-232 paths (all fitting into the same space as the old 
boards). The upgrade kit also includes two external cables (one custom), new hw 
etc.  These boards are also manufactured at a much lower volume than those in 
the PC market, with the subsequent increased cost on our end. A $200 price 
would be selling at a significant loss.

Our goal is always to price our products as reasonably as possible after taking 
into account our production and support costs while making enough profit to 
continue to exist and serve the amateur radio market. We walk that line 
carefully every day. And its always a challenge! :-)

73,

Eric
elecraft.com


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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B pricing

[Oliver Dröse]

That's true, Lynn. Nevertheless it's a question of perspective. I 
already own all the other features of/with the KIO3 so I can only make 
up my mind on the additional features and decide if it's worth it or not 
as that is what makes the difference for me. If they would offer a trade 
programm, i.e. send back KIO3(A) and get KIO3B for $200 I might think 
about it but not this way. But then what would they do with all the old 
KIO3's? They didn't offer that option for the KSYN3A, same story there. 
But we will see, maybe the price tag mentioned was including labour for 
exchanging the board ... hope dies last. ;-)


People always praise Elecraft for having an update path to keep their 
radios up-to-date while others come out with a Mk2 version where they 
would need to spend their money twice buying the Mk2 to get the latest 
features, a.s.o. Now Elecraft came out with the K3S as their "Mk2" ... 
hear hear! And if I would really keep my original K3 up to date with all 
the new boards, mods & features I could buy a second radio, too! Don't 
see much difference to other manufacturers (anymore) ... But that's a 
different discussion ... just sayin'. ;-)


73, Olli

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de




Am 19.12.2015 um 20:20 schrieb Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT:
Maybe, but how do they sell the "sound card part" without selling the 
KIO3A parts?


On 12/19/2015 11:07 AM, Oliver Dröse wrote:
Would have expected something in the 200 US$ price range but 400 
bucks for an "USB sound card" (as this is the only functional 
difference to the KIO3A) is too heavy for my liking, too ...




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Re: [Elecraft] KS3/P3 SWR Display Readings

[Ferris Jennings]

Thanks for all the replies.

Ah, it all makes sense ... now. I kept thinking that the SWR signal was
being sent from the K3S to the P3 via the RS232 port. Wrong.
So, guess I have, with the P3 SWR display, something of an antenna analyzer.
Nice to be able to have the K3S provide an "adjusted" SWR and the P3 provide
the real SWR at the antenna. Seems like my antenna does need a little work.
That project will have to wait a while.

Thanks again for the replies.
73
-Ferris NB6T-

-Original Message-
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [mailto:r...@cobi.biz] 
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 7:49 PM
To: 'Ferris Jennings'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KS3/P3 SWR Display Readings

Ferris, is the sensor for the TX MON mounted directly on the ANT connector
on your K3S? (no coax jumper to the sensor). 

The reason for the question is this. The tuner in the K3S adjusts the
impedance the K3S's finals see to 50 ohms at the input to the KAT3 inside
the K3S, but the impedance the KAT3 sees at the ANT connector to the coax
might be quite different. That's what the KAT3 does. It transforms whatever
impedance it sees at the ANT connector to 50 ohms, non reactive or as close
as it can get and that's the SWR you see reported. It tells you the K3S
finals are delivering power most efficiently to your antenna system. But it
does nothing about the SWR on your coax feedline to the antenna. 

Unless your feed line is exactly 50 ohms and it is seeing exactly 50 ohms at
the antenna, there will be standing waves on the feed line. The idea is to
keep them low enough to prevent excessive feed line losses, but the SWR is
virtually never zero.

The impedance at any point along your feed line will vary as you move from
the rig to the antenna. That's dependent upon the SWR on the feed line and
the frequency. 

Any feed line between the sensor in the KAT3 and the sensor for the P3 TX
MON will cause them to see different impedances and so they will report
different SWRs.  

The best way to check the two is to mount your P3 TX MON sensor right at the
K3S ANT connector with a double male adapter so there's an absolute minimum
of feed line between the KAT3's SWR bridge in the one in the IX MON sensor. 

Ideally terminate the TX MON sensor in a good 50 ohm dummy load instead of
connecting it to the antenna. 

Then both SWRs should agree within a reasonable range. 

73, Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ferris
Jennings
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 4:36 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KS3/P3 SWR Display Readings

Hell-o Everyone -

 

Finished building my K3S and P3 (with TX Mon), and I'm starting to play with
the configuration/menus.

I have the KAT3 ATU installed, and it works great. But I do have a question
regarding the SWR displays.

 

I'm running a simple diploe, and the KAT3 tunes it down to 1.0-1 in a second
flat. However, the SWR meter on the PS display always reads way higher,
something like 2.9 - 1. I've swapped antennas and lead (another dipole), and
I get the same results.

 

Question is: why the discrepancy in SWR from the K3S display to the P3
display? Am I missing a configuration setting?

 

Thanks

-Ferris NB6T-


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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B pricing (was: Re: K3IOB)

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Also note that the KIO3B has all of the original KIO3 analog and digital 
functionality and HW. Adding the usb sound and USB data hw to that did not 
increase the end price by over $200.

Lastly at ham radio market volumes, which are much lower than most consumer 
products, the cost to develop and support any design is folded in the price we 
must charge over time. We can't survive any other way.

73,
Eric
elecraft.com
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> On Dec 19, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Oliver Dröse  wrote:
> 
> Would have expected something in the 200 US$ price range but 400 bucks for an 
> "USB sound card" (as this is the only functional difference to the KIO3A) is 
> too heavy for my liking, too ... will probably keep going with my microHAM 
> USB III then ...
> 
> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B pricing (was: Re: K3IOB)

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Hi Olli,

Yes, 389.95 is the correct price. 

This is not a single board. It is a three board set that costs much more than 
our old KIO3B to manufacture.  The board set also now contains a new USB Codec, 
USB Comm port, Internal USB hub and additional logic to handle routing of data 
between the USB and RS-232 paths (all fitting into the same space as the old 
boards). The upgrade kit also includes two external cables (one custom), new hw 
etc.  These boards are also manufactured at a much lower volume than those in 
the PC market, with the subsequent increased cost on our end. A $200 price 
would be selling at a significant loss.

Our goal is always to price our products as reasonably as possible after taking 
into account our production and support costs while making enough profit to 
continue to exist and serve the amateur radio market. We walk that line 
carefully every day. And its always a challenge! :-)

73,

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._

> On Dec 19, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Oliver Dröse  wrote:
> 
> Would have expected something in the 200 US$ price range but 400 bucks for an 
> "USB sound card" (as this is the only functional difference to the KIO3A) is 
> too heavy for my liking, too ... will probably keep going with my microHAM 
> USB III then ...
> 
> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
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[Elecraft] Chasing Ghosts (Alarm Bypassing)

[kg9hfr...@gmail.com]

So now into the winter months, I have an issue where I have RFI getting into 
things.

After some searching.. I found an excellent guide by our own Jim Brown.

Jim… I think you were the guy that presented at our EMC meeting a long time ago 
here in Chicago if.. my memory is correct…
(I have been the Chairman of our EMC MiniSymposium here in Chicago for the past 
18 years…)

Jim did an excellent job with a mix of theory and practical, hope you find it 
helpful.
http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf 



Sincerely,  Frank Krozel t: 1-630-924-1600 fr...@electronicinstrument.com 
   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

[Gary]

Ditto

-Original Message-
From: "pe1bsb" 
Sent: ‎20/‎12/‎2015 5:03 AM
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

same for me

William PE1BSB

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> On 19 dec. 2015, at 19:51,   wrote:
> 
> I have been anxiously waiting for the K3IOB but also find the price much more 
> than expected, so now suspect I will not order one.
> Emory  WM3M
> 
> -Original Message- From: Robert Vargas-KP4Y via Elecraft
> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 1:01 PM
> To: Wes (N7WS)
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB
> 
> I agree w/ Peter on this. I also find the price for upgrade outrageous. But, 
> Mr. Schmidt's comment was out of line.
> 
> 73,
> Robert-KP4Y/W4
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Wes (N7WS)  wrote:
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>> Eric is the moderator of this list.
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B pricing

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Maybe, but how do they sell the "sound card part" without selling the 
KIO3A parts?


On 12/19/2015 11:07 AM, Oliver Dröse wrote:
Would have expected something in the 200 US$ price range but 400 bucks 
for an "USB sound card" (as this is the only functional difference to 
the KIO3A) is too heavy for my liking, too ...


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[Elecraft] KIO3B pricing (was: Re: K3IOB)

[Oliver Dröse]

Would have expected something in the 200 US$ price range but 400 bucks 
for an "USB sound card" (as this is the only functional difference to 
the KIO3A) is too heavy for my liking, too ... will probably keep going 
with my microHAM USB III then ...


73, Olli - DH8BQA

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de


Am 19.12.2015 um 19:51 schrieb ejk...@gmail.com:
I have been anxiously waiting for the K3IOB but also find the price 
much more than expected, so now suspect I will not order one.

Emory  WM3M

-Original Message- From: Robert Vargas-KP4Y via Elecraft
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 1:01 PM
To: Wes (N7WS)
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

I agree w/ Peter on this. I also find the price for upgrade 
outrageous. But, Mr. Schmidt's comment was out of line.


73,
Robert-KP4Y/W4

Sent from my iPhone



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On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Wes (N7WS)  wrote:

Eric is the moderator of this list.


On 12/19/2015 4:27 AM, Peter Pauly wrote:
Let's remain civil on this mailing list please.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

[pe1bsb]

same for me

William PE1BSB

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> On 19 dec. 2015, at 19:51,   wrote:
> 
> I have been anxiously waiting for the K3IOB but also find the price much more 
> than expected, so now suspect I will not order one.
> Emory  WM3M
> 
> -Original Message- From: Robert Vargas-KP4Y via Elecraft
> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 1:01 PM
> To: Wes (N7WS)
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB
> 
> I agree w/ Peter on this. I also find the price for upgrade outrageous. But, 
> Mr. Schmidt's comment was out of line.
> 
> 73,
> Robert-KP4Y/W4
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

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I have been anxiously waiting for the K3IOB but also find the price much 
more than expected, so now suspect I will not order one.

Emory  WM3M

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Vargas-KP4Y via Elecraft

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 1:01 PM
To: Wes (N7WS)
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

I agree w/ Peter on this. I also find the price for upgrade outrageous. But, 
Mr. Schmidt's comment was out of line.


73,
Robert-KP4Y/W4

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Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

[Robert Vargas-KP4Y via Elecraft]

I agree w/ Peter on this. I also find the price for upgrade outrageous. But, 
Mr. Schmidt's comment was out of line.

73,
Robert-KP4Y/W4

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Re: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3

[Dave Hachadorian]

The WinKey http://k1el.tripod.com/ , in conjunction with N1MM 
Logger+, does this beautifully.  It has separate delay 
adjustments for paddle-generated and computer-generated CW.  You 
can set the computer delay to zero and the paddle delay to a hang 
time of 1 to 2 letter spaces, so the paddle delay works at any 
speed.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Bajuk

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 5:28 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3

Hi,

Simple question... Is there a way to avoid VOX delay on CW mode 
when PTT is

used?

To be more concrete:

- CW and PTT signal are sent to K3 with N1MM directly from serial 
port (no

external keyer)
- external electronic keyer is connected to K3
- VOX is enabled

If I want CW keyer to work without PTT / paddle then VOX has to 
be enabled,

but VOX brings unwanted delay at the end when CW is sent from PC.

73 Robert, S57AW
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Re: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3

[Richard Ferch]

Once you have enabled VOX, you are stuck with whatever delay it imposes. 
In effect, the VOX and PTT functions are in a logical OR relationship - 
if either one of them wants the rig to be in transmit, it will be in 
transmit. In your current setup you could disable computer PTT control 
entirely and you would not see any difference.


There is a way to set the VOX delay to nearly zero, and that is to 
enable QSK. With PTT and QSK enabled, your computer messages will be 
controlled by PTT (no RX between characters), but your paddle-sent CW 
will be QSK. If you are using a non-QSK amplifier, this won't work for you.


Without using QSK, you can reduce the VOX delay in the K3, but if you 
are using an external amplifier that is not capable of QSK, the 
amplifier may impose a lower limit on the VOX delay you can safely use, 
i.e. you may want to have a VOX delay long enough to prevent returning 
to RX between characters, and maybe also between words, during paddle 
input, and that VOX delay will also affect the end of computer messages.


If you have an external keyer that has a PTT output, you can wire-OR the 
keyer's PTT output with the PTT signal from the computer. When the 
computer is sending, PTT will be asserted by the computer and there will 
be no RX during messages, but no delay in the return to RX at the end of 
the messages. When you are sending from the paddle, the delay will be 
controlled by the keyer's PTT settings. If you have a non-QSK amplifier 
you will have to configure the delay in the keyer to accommodate the 
amplifier, but the delay will only apply to paddle-sent CW, not to 
computer-sent messages.


73,
Rich VE3KI


S57AW wrote:


Simple question... Is there a way to avoid VOX delay on CW mode when PTT is
used?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

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Re: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3

[Mike K2MK]

Hi Robert,

If you are using VOX there should be no difference in the delay between
using your paddle and using your PC. It sounds like N1MM is still sending a
PTT command over the serial link. You can prove this by changing
CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF on your K3.

73,
Mike K2MK


s57aw wrote
> Hi,
> 
> Simple question... Is there a way to avoid VOX delay on CW mode when PTT
> is
> used?
> 
> To be more concrete:
> 
> - CW and PTT signal are sent to K3 with N1MM directly from serial port (no
> external keyer)
> - external electronic keyer is connected to K3
> - VOX is enabled
> 
> If I want CW keyer to work without PTT / paddle then VOX has to be
> enabled,
> but VOX brings unwanted delay at the end when CW is sent from PC.
> 
> 73 Robert, S57AW





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[Elecraft] KX3 packaged similar to a K2

[Don Baucom]

I will be getting a KX3 in the next couple of months and I do like the form.
My K2 sits next to the K3. I switched off the K3 and am working a few Qs in
the RAC contest on the K2.The K2 has a great look, I just thought it might
be a nice option if the KX3 was also offered in a similar case to the K2. I
think it would look great in all black in a similar size to the K2. There
would be more room for expansion and you could still take it in the field.

DON
K4YND
K1 2999
K2 7261
K3 7462
KX3: soon




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[Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3

[Robert Bajuk]

Hi,

Simple question... Is there a way to avoid VOX delay on CW mode when PTT is
used?

To be more concrete:

- CW and PTT signal are sent to K3 with N1MM directly from serial port (no
external keyer)
- external electronic keyer is connected to K3
- VOX is enabled

If I want CW keyer to work without PTT / paddle then VOX has to be enabled,
but VOX brings unwanted delay at the end when CW is sent from PC.

73 Robert, S57AW
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[Elecraft] Remote Rig with K3 KAT500 KPA500 and P3

[Larry Snyder]

Hi

 

I have a K3 with KPA500  P3 and KAT 500

 

According to the manual I am to connect the COM2 form the RRC-1258 to RS-232
and IO to ACC on the K3 but the K3 has cables going to the P3/KPA500/KAT500
so how do I connect the RRC-1258 to my full K Line?

 

 

Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

 

Larry

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

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> > KIO3B upgrade. It was done today. They are $389.95 each.
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