Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?

[Drew AF2Z]

One of the limitations of a compact rig is that the state of a 
particular control or button is often displayed in another location on 
the panel far from the button location itself.


In typical use you search for the control's indicator somewhere on the 
display screen in order to check its status (say AGC-S, AGC-F, etc); 
then search elsewhere for the control; then back to the indicator to 
watch it while you operate the control/button.


You aren't really conscious of all the extra mental gymnastics you go 
through zigzagging your attention back and forth, but it's one reason 
why a boat anchor is more satisfying to operate-- not simply fewer 
controls, but the controls are self indicating or directly adjacent to 
meters, pilot lamps, etc.


Dislocating the status indicators from the controls also makes learning 
to operate the rig more difficult initially and probably leads to 
recurring errors like SPLIT.


73,
Drew
AF2Z





On 09/28/17 13:16, dyarnes wrote:

Hi All,

I generally am pretty reticent to take issue with my “Tucson Compadre” West, 
N7WS, as he most often is making very good points.  However, I think he 
exaggerates a bit (perhaps intentionally) in attributing so much of the split 
operation error to K3 owners.  There are a lot of us, but not even remotely 
close to being that many of us!!  I tend to attribute that error, more than 
anything, to the lost art of “mentoring”.  Too many hams these days have never 
been effectively schooled in proper/normal operating procedures, and have no 
clue as to the meaning of the simple term “UP”!

Admittedly, there have been occasions when I was guilty of the sin mentioned, 
but only momentarily.  The K3 does have the “delta F” light to warn you, and 
the display does indicate “split”.  I do wish both were more obvious.  
Externally it looks like there might have been sufficient room to make both of 
those LED’s bigger and brighter.  The “split” indicator on the LCD could be 
bigger as well!  That would be a very good enhancement.  Is that possible 
through firmware?

If there is a problem with the K3, I think it can be attributed to the 
trade-off between rig size and display size.  I, for one, am happy with a 
smaller piece of gear on my desk, but I must admit that some of the display 
info is pretty difficult for these old eyes to see clearly.

I’m inclined to agree with those who don’t feel the K3 requires an inordinate 
amount of menu accessing.  I think Elecraft did a marvelous job of putting most 
needed adjustments right on the front panel.  I have had a much bigger problem 
in this respect with other rig brands.  Of course, the urge to make rigs 
smaller caused much of this, but even some very big rigs have this problem.  
The Ten-Tec Orion II is a good example.  It has a big, beautiful display, and 
lots of panel space, but still you need to make several button pushes to make 
very commonly needed changes like power level and keyer speed.  Both of these 
are instant adjustments on the K3’s front panel.

Most rigs these days are fairly complex and versatile.  Some are unduly complex 
or convoluted, but I don’t think that applies to the K3.  However, if you reach 
for a knob or a button on any of these rigs, you better be paying attention!  I 
think most operator errors are due to just that, and not to design issues.  If 
something on your K3 doesn’t sound or act right, take a good, hard look at your 
display and panel indicators.  The answer is probably right there in front of 
you!  How many times have we seen a response like ‘Are you on antenna 1 or 
antenna 2?”

Dave W7AQK







From: Wes Stewart 

Have you never turned on VOX when you meant to change bands? Or set up VFO A and
B to split frequencies and then accidentally (and unknowingly) written A to B
when you tried to turn on Split?? Your Split indicator gives you comfort but
you're still transmitting on the DX.? Probably half the, "He's split you moron"
comments in pileups are directed at K3 owners. And don't even get me started
about memory management.

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Re: [Elecraft] question external firing of voice keyer messages

[AB2E Darrell]

Just found some Win-Test scripts for the K3 and K3S so will try those.

73 Darrell AB2E




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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 10:19 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] question external firing of voice keyer messages

Hello all,

   I've been setting up my K3 using N1MM+ and I know the voice messages 
will send from the program when the macros are setup correctly.

Going on a dxpedition and the group is using Win-Test. So far I haven't found a 
similar function in Win-Test that would allow for launching the K3 voice 
messages externally. Is there another way to launch the messages externally 
I've overlooked?


Thanks and 73,

Darrell AB2E



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[Elecraft] question external firing of voice keyer messages

[AB2E Darrell]

Hello all,

   I've been setting up my K3 using N1MM+ and I know the voice messages 
will send from the program when the macros are setup correctly.

Going on a dxpedition and the group is using Win-Test. So far I haven't found a 
similar function in Win-Test that would allow for launching the K3 voice 
messages externally. Is there another way to launch the messages externally 
I've overlooked?


Thanks and 73,

Darrell AB2E



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Re: [Elecraft] Power on banner - odd behavior

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Use the Elecraft Utility, select Edit Power On Banner and make the 
changes you need.   Just be sure there are no extra letters or symbols 
in the box.  Only 22 characters are allowed.


Of course you will need the radio powered up and connected to the 
computer.  Also check the port number and Test Communications to be sure 
the radio and the computer are communicating.


73

Bob, K4TAX

K3S s/n 10163


On 9/28/2017 7:31 PM, w3sb via Elecraft wrote:

Hello,

Today I successfully updated the firmware on my K3 using the latest version of the K3 Utility. At that time I 
also changed the scrolling sign on banner. Now when I power up the K3, I'm getting text showing up before the 
reset banner. For example if my new banner is my call, W3SB, before it scrolls there is text, let's say 
"XYZ_" ahead of it. Since "XYZ" is a piece of equipment I used to have, I know that I set 
"XYZ" at some point, but for the life of me I don't know how. Is there some other way that the sign 
on banner text can be set? This really has me puzzled.

73, Monty W3SB
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Re: [Elecraft] practicing CW on K2 without transmitting?

[Nr4c]

Oooops my bad! I misread this post and assumed it was for KX2. But I think my 
solution will work with just about any radio. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 27, 2017, at 11:33 PM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> Use a good dummy load and set power to zero watts. Works with KX3, KX2 should 
> be similar. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Steve-KI4EZL  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't use my K2 much and have forgotten some of the functions.  My wife
>> wants to practice sending CW (CW Ops class), and I wanted to setup the K2
>> with a good key for her to use.  The trouble is, my forgetfulness has won
>> this battle and I cannot remember what to do on the K2 so that it will not
>> transmit.  Please remind me how to do this.  
>> 
>> Thank you and 73,
>> 
>> Steve - KI4EZL
>> 
>> 
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[Elecraft] Power on banner - odd behavior

[w3sb via Elecraft]

Hello,

Today I successfully updated the firmware on my K3 using the latest version of 
the K3 Utility. At that time I also changed the scrolling sign on banner. Now 
when I power up the K3, I'm getting text showing up before the reset banner. 
For example if my new banner is my call, W3SB, before it scrolls there is text, 
let's say "XYZ_" ahead of it. Since "XYZ" is a piece of equipment I used to 
have, I know that I set "XYZ" at some point, but for the life of me I don't 
know how. Is there some other way that the sign on banner text can be set? This 
really has me puzzled. 

73, Monty W3SB
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Re: [Elecraft] Low Tx Data Sound Output volume

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

With FLDIGI there are two modes for DATA.  PKTUSB is preferred for all modes 
except where one chooses PKTLSB for AFSK.  The CAT command will handle the 
radio mode switching.  Thus one does not have to turn to the radio and initiate 
the REV mode. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Irwin,
> 
> Did you get the information that Elecraft radios are different than other 
> amateur transceivers?, and that you have to set up the audio and power 
> differently.  It sounds like you may not be setting the audio and power 
> correctly for the K3/K3S.
> 
> The common internet "advice" is to set the power to maximum, and use the 
> audio level to control the power output.  That does not work well with 
> Elecraft transceivers - ignore that advice.
> 
> With the K3 (K3S, KX3 and KX2), set the audio to produce 4 bars on the ALC 
> meter with the 5th bar flashing and adjust the power with the Power knob on 
> the radio.
> 
> AFSK A should be no different than LSB except that compression and TX/RX EQ 
> is automatically turned off.
> 
> For PSK31 or other data modes, the use of DATA A submode (which is USB) is 
> recommended although PSK31 does not care about the sideband.  Other soundcard 
> digital modes do care.
> 
> Please refer to the K3 Data modes article on my website www.w3fpr.com. Scroll 
> the left column down to the bottom and you will find the link to the page.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 9/25/2017 11:45 AM, Irwin Darack wrote:
>> I am not sure if this is a Windows 10 problem or something changes in my
>> K3s settings and want to see if others have experienced the same thing?
>> When the K3s is in Tx Data (PSK 31 and RTTY) - AFSK -A LSB, I now find that
>> the data output (sound) is no much lower than when just in LSB mode. This
>> seems to have occurred with the latest Windows 10 update. Hence in this
>> weekends CQWW RTTY contest, I could only use MMTTY with the K3s in LSB mode
>> and not Tx Data mode.  I am not sure if it changed something with the Codec
>> driver or by some fluke, something changes in the K3s settings. Hence, I
>> ran the contest in LSB versus Tx Data.
>> Thanks,
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Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Yes, actually before I ordered my K3S I went on line and printed a full copy.  
This helped me make my decision on the choice of options.  I ordered the radio 
and while waiting, I read and re-read the manual.   After 18 mos or so of using 
the radio, very satisfactorily I might add, I ordered the Fred Cady book and 
have learned a lot more.  

All the hours reading and studying have been very worthwhile.   I highly 
suggest others do the same. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Sep 28, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Bill Johnson  wrote:
> 
> You probably know the manual is viewable on line. When I order something, I 
> read and reread.  There is more than I can remember.  But I do remember some 
> of the major settings and those that appeal to me.
> 
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 4:35 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?
> 
> One other point is the hams mentality ;   "I've operated hundreds of ham 
> radios and I know how this one works".  HA!   Better read the dang manual two 
> or three times.   Also the Fred Cady, KE7X has a wealth of information not 
> included in the standard Elecraft K3S Owner's Manual.
> 
> Regarding manuals, I've often thought when a person orders a new radio, the 
> manual should be shipped some 2 or 3 weeks to the buyer in advance, before 
> the radio ships.  Perhaps this would encourage one to learn a bit more about 
> the radio, as opposed to taking it out of the box, connecting a few cables 
> and start turning knobs and pushing buttons.  Then they
> exclaim:  "uh, where did I put that manual because this dang thing doesn't 
> work."
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
>> On 9/28/2017 4:16 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
>> Dave, W7AQK is absolutely right. Many of my early problems with the K3 
>> came from pushing a button without looking at the radio.
>> 
>> It also helps to learn what each of the items displayed on the panel 
>> means, even the ones you don't think you need to know about. You may 
>> have accidentally changed one an shot yourself in the foot.
>> 
>> My last serious case of transmit on the DX frequency came because my 
>> P3/SVGA display for the 2nd VFO looked red, even though I wasn't in 
>> split. The P3 colors were much clearer, but I didn't look at the P3.
>> Another ham called me on the telephone to inform me of the error of my 
>> ways. (Thanks!) Now I check the delta-F light and the SVGA.
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
>>> On 9/28/17 at 10:16 AM, w7...@cox.net (dyarnes) wrote:
>>> 
>>> However, if you reach for a knob or a button on any of these rigs, 
>>> you better be paying attention!  I think most operator errors are due 
>>> to just that, and not to design issues.  If something on your K3 
>>> doesn’t sound or act right, take a good, hard look at your display 
>>> and panel indicators.  The answer is probably right there in front of 
>>> you!  How many times have we seen a response like ‘Are you on antenna
>>> 1 or antenna 2?”
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Low Tx Data Sound Output volume

[Don Wilhelm]

Irwin,

Did you get the information that Elecraft radios are different than 
other amateur transceivers?, and that you have to set up the audio and 
power differently.  It sounds like you may not be setting the audio and 
power correctly for the K3/K3S.


The common internet "advice" is to set the power to maximum, and use the 
audio level to control the power output.  That does not work well with 
Elecraft transceivers - ignore that advice.


With the K3 (K3S, KX3 and KX2), set the audio to produce 4 bars on the 
ALC meter with the 5th bar flashing and adjust the power with the Power 
knob on the radio.


AFSK A should be no different than LSB except that compression and TX/RX 
EQ is automatically turned off.


For PSK31 or other data modes, the use of DATA A submode (which is USB) 
is recommended although PSK31 does not care about the sideband.  Other 
soundcard digital modes do care.


Please refer to the K3 Data modes article on my website www.w3fpr.com. 
Scroll the left column down to the bottom and you will find the link to 
the page.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/25/2017 11:45 AM, Irwin Darack wrote:

I am not sure if this is a Windows 10 problem or something changes in my
K3s settings and want to see if others have experienced the same thing?

When the K3s is in Tx Data (PSK 31 and RTTY) - AFSK -A LSB, I now find that
the data output (sound) is no much lower than when just in LSB mode. This
seems to have occurred with the latest Windows 10 update. Hence in this
weekends CQWW RTTY contest, I could only use MMTTY with the K3s in LSB mode
and not Tx Data mode.  I am not sure if it changed something with the Codec
driver or by some fluke, something changes in the K3s settings. Hence, I
ran the contest in LSB versus Tx Data.
Thanks,


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[Elecraft] FOR SALE: KXPA100 and KX2 -- SOLD

[stan levandowski]

SOLD  SOLD SOLD
-

KXPA100-F (factory built) SN 2042 purchased 08/30/2016.  Includes 
KXPACBL  I/O cable for KX2/KX3,
power cable and KX2ACBL ACC cable.  Does NOT
include ATU option.   Asking $625.00,
shipped.


KX2-F purchased 06/24/2016 SN 0472. Does NOT include
internal ATU option.  Includes power cable and computer update cable.  
Asking $575.00,

shipped.


There are no internal ATUs in either unit because I use a
feedpoint autocoupler


Both units in absolute mint condx.  Never used in the field.  This has 
been my primary “at home only”

station.  See picture at my QRZ page.   All
manuals, documentation and invoices included.


Ship to CONUS only.   PayPal 
please.   Will ship each in its original Elecraft
packaging and shipping cartons via insured Priority Mail.


Reason for selling:   I want 6 meters too and I’m seriously thinking
about the K3S.


If interested, please contact me off list.


73, Stan WB2LQF
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Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?

[Bill Johnson]

You probably know the manual is viewable on line. When I order something, I 
read and reread.  There is more than I can remember.  But I do remember some of 
the major settings and those that appeal to me.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 4:35 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?

One other point is the hams mentality ;   "I've operated hundreds of ham radios 
and I know how this one works".  HA!   Better read the dang manual two or three 
times.   Also the Fred Cady, KE7X has a wealth of information not included in 
the standard Elecraft K3S Owner's Manual.

Regarding manuals, I've often thought when a person orders a new radio, the 
manual should be shipped some 2 or 3 weeks to the buyer in advance, before the 
radio ships.  Perhaps this would encourage one to learn a bit more about the 
radio, as opposed to taking it out of the box, connecting a few cables and 
start turning knobs and pushing buttons.  Then they
exclaim:  "uh, where did I put that manual because this dang thing doesn't 
work."

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 9/28/2017 4:16 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> Dave, W7AQK is absolutely right. Many of my early problems with the K3 
> came from pushing a button without looking at the radio.
>
> It also helps to learn what each of the items displayed on the panel 
> means, even the ones you don't think you need to know about. You may 
> have accidentally changed one an shot yourself in the foot.
>
> My last serious case of transmit on the DX frequency came because my 
> P3/SVGA display for the 2nd VFO looked red, even though I wasn't in 
> split. The P3 colors were much clearer, but I didn't look at the P3.
> Another ham called me on the telephone to inform me of the error of my 
> ways. (Thanks!) Now I check the delta-F light and the SVGA.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 9/28/17 at 10:16 AM, w7...@cox.net (dyarnes) wrote:
>
>> However, if you reach for a knob or a button on any of these rigs, 
>> you better be paying attention!  I think most operator errors are due 
>> to just that, and not to design issues.  If something on your K3 
>> doesn’t sound or act right, take a good, hard look at your display 
>> and panel indicators.  The answer is probably right there in front of 
>> you!  How many times have we seen a response like ‘Are you on antenna
>> 1 or antenna 2?”
>
> --
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> (408)356-8506  | using a perimeter defense is a | 16345 Englewood 
> Ave www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Los Gatos, 
> CA 95032
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Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

One other point is the hams mentality ;   "I've operated hundreds of ham 
radios and I know how this one works".  HA!   Better read the dang 
manual two or three times.   Also the Fred Cady, KE7X has a wealth of 
information not included in the standard Elecraft K3S Owner's Manual.


Regarding manuals, I've often thought when a person orders a new radio, 
the manual should be shipped some 2 or 3 weeks to the buyer in advance, 
before the radio ships.  Perhaps this would encourage one to learn a bit 
more about the radio, as opposed to taking it out of the box, connecting 
a few cables and start turning knobs and pushing buttons.  Then they 
exclaim:  "uh, where did I put that manual because this dang thing 
doesn't work."


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 9/28/2017 4:16 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
Dave, W7AQK is absolutely right. Many of my early problems with the K3 
came from pushing a button without looking at the radio.


It also helps to learn what each of the items displayed on the panel 
means, even the ones you don't think you need to know about. You may 
have accidentally changed one an shot yourself in the foot.


My last serious case of transmit on the DX frequency came because my 
P3/SVGA display for the 2nd VFO looked red, even though I wasn't in 
split. The P3 colors were much clearer, but I didn't look at the P3. 
Another ham called me on the telephone to inform me of the error of my 
ways. (Thanks!) Now I check the delta-F light and the SVGA.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 9/28/17 at 10:16 AM, w7...@cox.net (dyarnes) wrote:

However, if you reach for a knob or a button on any of these rigs, 
you better be paying attention!  I think most operator errors are due 
to just that, and not to design issues.  If something on your K3 
doesn’t sound or act right, take a good, hard look at your display 
and panel indicators.  The answer is probably right there in front of 
you!  How many times have we seen a response like ‘Are you on antenna 
1 or antenna 2?”


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Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?

[Bill Frantz]

Dave, W7AQK is absolutely right. Many of my early problems with 
the K3 came from pushing a button without looking at the radio.


It also helps to learn what each of the items displayed on the 
panel means, even the ones you don't think you need to know 
about. You may have accidentally changed one an shot yourself in 
the foot.


My last serious case of transmit on the DX frequency came 
because my P3/SVGA display for the 2nd VFO looked red, even 
though I wasn't in split. The P3 colors were much clearer, but I 
didn't look at the P3. Another ham called me on the telephone to 
inform me of the error of my ways. (Thanks!) Now I check the 
delta-F light and the SVGA.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 9/28/17 at 10:16 AM, w7...@cox.net (dyarnes) wrote:

However, if you reach for a knob or a button on any of these 
rigs, you better be paying attention!  I think most operator 
errors are due to just that, and not to design issues.  If 
something on your K3 doesn’t sound or act right, take a good, 
hard look at your display and panel indicators.  The answer is 
probably right there in front of you!  How many times have we 
seen a response like ‘Are you on antenna 1 or antenna 2?”


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(408)356-8506  | using a perimeter defense is a | 16345 
Englewood Ave
www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Los Gatos, 
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Re: [Elecraft] Baud rates and more baud rates.

[Don Wilhelm]

Jim,

Take a look at all the other RS-232 devices in your system - and that 
includes software applications.  Look specifically at the baud rate.
Then set the K3 and P3, your COM ports, and other devices to the same 
rate.  It should be the highest rate supported by your equipment and 
applications - so the response times are the fastest they can be and 
will not interfere with normal operation.


There is no benefit to be gained by running at a lower rate, that will 
only take longer for the responses to flow between boxes.


What I am saying is that if everything but one or two boxes is capable 
of 38,400, but you have one whose top rate is 19,200, then you should 
set everything to 19,200.


Normally set the COM port for the highest speed it can handle and let it 
go at that.  The application(s) will usually throttle the communications 
back as necessary.


I don't know why the K3 defaults to 4800 baud, it is certainly capable 
of 38,400.


73,
Don W3FPR


On 9/28/2017 10:43 AM, Jim Rogers wrote:
For years the following setup worked well. USB Connected 
K3s/P3/KPA500/KAT500. CAT is COM10. Device manager says COM10 is set for 
9600 baud, no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit (9600,n,8,1). HRD is my 
main control and logging program. Everything is all hooked up and 
working well.


Then I installed SatPC32 tracking software for future satellite work. 
The K3s is configured with TRN1 for my XV144 2M transverter. I turn on 
SatPC32's CAT switch and I can see the K3 display pausing for a split 
second every time SatPC32 sends a frequency update to the K3s. But the 
K3s is not getting the update. 

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[Elecraft] FOR SALE: KXPA100 and KX2

[stan levandowski]

KXPA100-F (factory built) SN 2042 purchased 08/30/2016.  Includes 
KXPACBL  I/O cable for KX2/KX3,
power cable and KX2ACBL ACC cable.  Does NOT
include ATU option.   Asking $625.00,
shipped.


KX2-F purchased 06/24/2016 SN 0472. Does NOT include
internal ATU option.  Includes power cable and computer update cable.  
Asking $575.00,

shipped.


There are no internal ATUs in either unit because I use a
feedpoint autocoupler


Both units in absolute mint condx.  Never used in the field.  This has 
been my primary “at home only”

station.  See picture at my QRZ page.   All
manuals, documentation and invoices included.


Ship to CONUS only.   PayPal 
please.   Will ship each in its original Elecraft
packaging and shipping cartons via insured Priority Mail.


Reason for selling:   I want 6 meters too and I’m seriously thinking
about the K3S.


If interested, please contact me off list.


73, Stan WB2LQF
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Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?

[dyarnes]

Hi All,

I generally am pretty reticent to take issue with my “Tucson Compadre” West, 
N7WS, as he most often is making very good points.  However, I think he 
exaggerates a bit (perhaps intentionally) in attributing so much of the split 
operation error to K3 owners.  There are a lot of us, but not even remotely 
close to being that many of us!!  I tend to attribute that error, more than 
anything, to the lost art of “mentoring”.  Too many hams these days have never 
been effectively schooled in proper/normal operating procedures, and have no 
clue as to the meaning of the simple term “UP”!  

Admittedly, there have been occasions when I was guilty of the sin mentioned, 
but only momentarily.  The K3 does have the “delta F” light to warn you, and 
the display does indicate “split”.  I do wish both were more obvious.  
Externally it looks like there might have been sufficient room to make both of 
those LED’s bigger and brighter.  The “split” indicator on the LCD could be 
bigger as well!  That would be a very good enhancement.  Is that possible 
through firmware?

If there is a problem with the K3, I think it can be attributed to the 
trade-off between rig size and display size.  I, for one, am happy with a 
smaller piece of gear on my desk, but I must admit that some of the display 
info is pretty difficult for these old eyes to see clearly.  

I’m inclined to agree with those who don’t feel the K3 requires an inordinate 
amount of menu accessing.  I think Elecraft did a marvelous job of putting most 
needed adjustments right on the front panel.  I have had a much bigger problem 
in this respect with other rig brands.  Of course, the urge to make rigs 
smaller caused much of this, but even some very big rigs have this problem.  
The Ten-Tec Orion II is a good example.  It has a big, beautiful display, and 
lots of panel space, but still you need to make several button pushes to make 
very commonly needed changes like power level and keyer speed.  Both of these 
are instant adjustments on the K3’s front panel.  

Most rigs these days are fairly complex and versatile.  Some are unduly complex 
or convoluted, but I don’t think that applies to the K3.  However, if you reach 
for a knob or a button on any of these rigs, you better be paying attention!  I 
think most operator errors are due to just that, and not to design issues.  If 
something on your K3 doesn’t sound or act right, take a good, hard look at your 
display and panel indicators.  The answer is probably right there in front of 
you!  How many times have we seen a response like ‘Are you on antenna 1 or 
antenna 2?”

Dave W7AQK







From: Wes Stewart 

Have you never turned on VOX when you meant to change bands? Or set up VFO A 
and 
B to split frequencies and then accidentally (and unknowingly) written A to B 
when you tried to turn on Split?? Your Split indicator gives you comfort but 
you're still transmitting on the DX.? Probably half the, "He's split you moron" 
comments in pileups are directed at K3 owners. And don't even get me started 
about memory management.

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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea for Elecraft - addendum

[Shel Radin KF0UR]

And for completeness, we'd like to mention the QRPworks "K-Board" as another
viable option.

The K-Board holds 200 messages or macros, in 10 groups of 20.  And each
group of 20 can be named..."Field Day", Contest A", Contest B", etc.

Like the SideKar and SideKar Plus, each of the 200 slots can be a message or
a macro...your choice.   And each can be named so it's easier to remember
what it does.  That's especially useful for macros if you haven't memorized
all the commands :-)

And like the SideKar and SideKar Plus, you can create and modify the
messages/macros using the free Message Management Utility for the PC or Mac
(in addition to creating/modifying them on the device).

73,

Shel KF0UR
www.QRPworks.com




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[Elecraft] KX2 ATU per Band Bypass?

[K9MA]

I use my KX2 with an external tuner on some bands with my EFHW, and with 
the internal ATU on others.  I really don't want the internal ATU to be 
enabled with the external tuner, as they could end up "fighting" each 
other while I'm tuning.  However, it's easy to forget to switch the ATU 
in or out when changing bands. It would be useful if the ATU auto/bypass 
status were stored on a per band basis.  Does anyone else think this 
would be useful?  (I know those micropower gerbils in the KX2 are 
already pretty busy, but it's only a few bits.)



73,

Scott K9MA

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[Elecraft] Baud rates and more baud rates.

[Jim Rogers]

For years the following setup worked well. USB Connected 
K3s/P3/KPA500/KAT500. CAT is COM10. Device manager says COM10 is set for 
9600 baud, no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit (9600,n,8,1). HRD is my 
main control and logging program. Everything is all hooked up and 
working well.


Then I installed SatPC32 tracking software for future satellite work. 
The K3s is configured with TRN1 for my XV144 2M transverter. I turn on 
SatPC32's CAT switch and I can see the K3 display pausing for a split 
second every time SatPC32 sends a frequency update to the K3s. But the 
K3s is not getting the update. Checked the P3 baud rate and it  is 
38,400 (remember this has not been a problem until now).  So I begin 
adjusting its baud rate and eventually drop to 4800 baud. Bingo! it is 
all working together, frequency updates to the K3s are getting there, 
everything is cool


Until I get out of satellite "mode" and go back to HRD. Now HRD is not 
communicating with the K3s, until I set COM10 for 4800 baud as well. 
That actually makes good sense. The same baud rate throughout the entire 
connected system, but how did it work before with COM10 CAT baud rate a 
9600, and the P3 running at 38,400?


If you look in the K3s manual (p.63) for the RS232 menu item you will 
notice that it says the default is 4800b. To set it to any other value, 
you must get out of USB mode and use the RS232 port. At that point it is 
no longer COM10 but is whatever port your USB/Serial adapter is assigned 
by the computer.


COM problems are sometimes difficult to resolve. I found an invaluable 
aid in Eltima software's "Serial Port Monitor".  The pro version is 
recommended. At 150 bucks, it is worth the money and is packed with 
features.


FWIW, Jim, W4ATK

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Re: [Elecraft] Kxpa100 question...

[Don Wilhelm]

The KXAT100 adds its own front panel.  It should be included with the kit.

If you buy both at once, you only get the one front panel.

If you download the KXPA100 assembly manual, that information is covered.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/28/2017 8:26 AM, Taldo wrote:

Hey there, I have seen two kinds of elecraft  kxpa100 amp front panels. One
is without led swr meter and the other has it. The one that I sow without
the swr meter didn't have the internal ATU so thought that if you upgrade
it with the kit, you might get a new front panel in the kit but I couldn't
get any clue for it anywhere... I couldn't find any explanation for that
difference nor I could see it in the elecraft website. Can anyone give an
explanation?
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Re: [Elecraft] Kxpa100 question...

[GRANT YOUNGMAN]

Yes, the internal ATU comes with a new front panel containing the ATU controls 
and indicators.

You can read the Elecraft KXPA100/KXAT100 assembly manuals on the Elecraft 
website, which explains the differences

> On Sep 28, 2017, at 8:26 AM, Taldo  wrote:
> 
> Hey there, I have seen two kinds of elecraft  kxpa100 amp front panels. One
> is without led swr meter and the other has it. The one that I sow without
> the swr meter didn't have the internal ATU so thought that if you upgrade
> it with the kit, you might get a new front panel in the kit but I couldn't
> get any clue for it anywhere... I couldn't find any explanation for that
> difference nor I could see it in the elecraft website. Can anyone give an
> explanation?

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342



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Re: [Elecraft] SDRPlay as panadapter

[Wes Stewart]

I guess I have to repeat myself:

"SpectraVue software is the only SDR software I've ever liked.  It interfaces 
with the K3 seamlessly.   Every other program I've tried has been installed and 
quickly uninstalled.  Sometimes more than once, usually having me ask myself, 
"Self, what were you thinking?" before uninstalling again. Apparently, 
programmers do not think like normal people do and try to turn a relatively 
simple tool into a video game. " Sorry Lyle:-)


And I did know how to turn the MF filter on and off.

Wes  N7WS


On 9/27/2017 8:43 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

Hi Wes,

There are probably at least a half dozen pieces of software written to use the 
output of SDRs in the way that suits individual hams. SDRUno is the one they 
paid someone for, but before I gave up on the radio, I'd try the others.  Most 
(if not all) are freeware. One of the first I'd look at is Simon Brown's 
contribution (he was the original author of HRD when it was freeware, sold it 
to current owners when he got tired of answering support questions.


Another issue may be that you haven't figured out how to switch in the BCB 
filter. That's another issue with all of this stuff -- documentation, user 
interface that not even the programmer's mother could love, etc.


73, Jim K9YC 


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Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Between my operation of SSB, CW and digital modes, I find the radio 
makes all the changes necessary as I change modes and bands.   Thus once 
configured as I operate, no changes to any menu's are needed.


One thing I did conclude...the radio is a lot smarter than I 
am.  Thanks Wayne, Eric and the crew for such a great design and 
implementation.


73

Bob, K4TAX





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[Elecraft] Kxpa100 question...

[Taldo]

Hey there, I have seen two kinds of elecraft  kxpa100 amp front panels. One
is without led swr meter and the other has it. The one that I sow without
the swr meter didn't have the internal ATU so thought that if you upgrade
it with the kit, you might get a new front panel in the kit but I couldn't
get any clue for it anywhere... I couldn't find any explanation for that
difference nor I could see it in the elecraft website. Can anyone give an
explanation?
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