Re: [Elecraft] Have AF control both the Main & SUB volume

[Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP]

Gary,

What you want is CONFIG:SUB AF = BALANCE

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
On 1 Nov 2017 04:17, Gary Smith wrote:

I'm trying to set up the K3s to have both
the sub and main controlled by the AF knob
and not finding what I had done before.

Looking at the manual under CONFIG:SQ MAIN
it says:

SUB RF gain normally sets the sub
receiver´s RF GAIN level. If this knob is
assigned to main/sub squelch (CONFIG:SQ
MAIN), then RF gain for main/sub is
controlled by the main RF gain control.

When I go to CONFIG:SQ MAIN and select via
VFO A it offers numbers ranging from 1-29
and then it says =Sub Pot With two options
of SQ MAIN and SQL N/A which defaults back
to SQ MAIN.

None of the above locks the volume of the
Sub to the Main like I had it set on the
K3, AF still controls the main and SUB
controls the SUB volume.

I am missing the obvious.

Suggestions?

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J

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Re: [Elecraft] 2T Gen problem

[Don Wilhelm]

Jeremy,

Those voltages seem to be OK.

I have obtained information from Elecraft support that C2 may be the 
problem.

The capacitor may be too low in value.
Replace C2 with a .01uF capacitor and see if that fixes the 1900kHz 
oscillator.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2017 9:14 PM, Jeremy Jones wrote:

Don,

Q2 Gate = 5.20v
Q2 Drain = 4.66v

Jeremy


On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

Jeremy,

What is the voltage at the gate of Q2?  And what is the voltage at the drain?
Those two points should control the level of the 1900Hz tone.

Likely possibility is that Q2 was damaged by static when installed.

You should have the JP2 jumper set for the "T" position.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2017 6:01 PM, Jeremy Jones wrote:

Hi Don,

I have the 700Hz tone, but not the 1900Hz.  Here is the quote from the original 
post.  I measured similar voltages.  I’ve also included your response to him.  
It seems like a pretty simple device, and I’ve double checked the components 
and soldering.  My 12 year old daughter did most of the soldering, so the only 
thing I can think of is her leaving the heat on too long and damaging a 
component, but there are no burn marks on the circuit board.

The 700 Hz generator works and produces a max 150 mVolt peak signal, but the
1.900 Hz generator does not work. I noticed that Base of 2N3904-Q1 (1.900
Hz) shows 0 V, while Base of 2N3904-Q3 (700 Hz) shows 2,1 mV. With a 8.9
Volts Vcc, Collector Q1 shows 8,1 Volts while Collector Q3 shows 6.7 Volts.
Drains Q2 and Q4 (2N7000) show both 4.4 V (= Vcc/2). The voltages of pins
1,2,3,5,6,7 of U1 (LMC6482) are all 4.4 Volts. Replacing Q1 with an
available spare didn't help and didn't change the voltages.







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Re: [Elecraft] (KPA-500) running on 110v

[Phil Kane]

On 10/29/2017 8:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Since I had the advantage to wire my own house, I used #12 for all
> receptacles, and in the hamshack area, I have a dedicated circuit for
> the two receptacles there.  Most installations cannot boast of that same
> advantage.

My first house - 1968 - was one that was newly built.  I had the
opportunity to run a 50A 240V feeder from a breaker on the main panel to
a sub-panel in what was my ham shack after I did the load calculation to
ensure that the main had the capacity to serve the sub-panel as per
code.  Installed dedicated 120V and 240V branches with quality
receptacles.  We stayed there 9 years until we needed a larger place,
but I never was able to do that again.


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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[Elecraft] Have AF control both the Main & SUB volume

[Gary Smith]

I'm trying to set up the K3s to have both 
the sub and main controlled by the AF knob 
and not finding what I had done before.

Looking at the manual under CONFIG:SQ MAIN 
it says:

SUB RF gain normally sets the sub 
receiver´s RF GAIN level. If this knob is 
assigned to main/sub squelch (CONFIG:SQ 
MAIN), then RF gain for main/sub is 
controlled by the main RF gain control.

When I go to CONFIG:SQ MAIN and select via 
VFO A it offers numbers ranging from 1-29 
and then it says =Sub Pot With two options 
of SQ MAIN and SQL N/A which defaults back 
to SQ MAIN.

None of the above locks the volume of the 
Sub to the Main like I had it set on the 
K3, AF still controls the main and SUB 
controls the SUB volume.

I am missing the obvious. 

Suggestions?

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J

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Re: [Elecraft] My Take on CW

[Ted Edwards W3TB]

And that does help to explain why my mother-in-law never learned to drive.
She didn't want it, and in NYC you really don't need it.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX 
wrote:

> I started in ham radio as a Novice in 1959.  That required 5 WPM, crystal
> control, 75 watts and only CW.   Finally up to 13 WPM and a General license
> and later to an Extra class license which I hold today.Over the 58
> years that are now behind me,  I drifted away from CW to a much easier SSB
> mode.  Now at 75 years of age I find the mind is not nearly as sharp, as
> keen and as fast as it was 50 or so years ago.In order to stimulate the
> thinking process, hopefully in an effort to delay dementia and other mind
> altering age related issues, I've returned to CW.I'm being reminded of
> my H.S. math teacher when asked "why do we study algebra?", he responded
> "It's mental gymnastic training". That's the way I view and approach CW
> today.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>
> On 10/31/2017 6:39 PM, greenacres...@charter.net wrote:
>
>>
>> The main & I mean main thing is desire. If learning CW is a job or
>> task you'll probably drop out eventually. In my 57yr.s on CW that's
>> what I've heard most often. It's too hard, it takes too long or I can
>> never learn it.
>>
>> When you learned to ride a bike, get your drivers license or met
>> your
>> mate it was something you really wanted. The desire was there.
>>
>> It's only 26 letters, 10 numbers & a few other symbols. You
>> probably
>> have more PC passwords with a mix of numbers & letters and characters
>> than what CW requires. Bet you know the passwords by heart.
>>
>> My Dad [SK W4YAD] passed his 13 WPM code test at age 55 after a
>> mild
>> stroke. He saw me on CW & wanted to learn. That ole' desire again.
>>
>> Try what ever method to learn that you are comfortable with. If
>> you
>> can find a partner that's much better. I was lucky that at age 13 my
>> best friend & me learned together. We talked in Morse. It was our
>> secret language. He became K9UFO [SK].
>>
>> Another motivation you might consider is CW is another language.
>> You
>> can become bilingual ! Just as playing music or speaking Spanish is a
>> different language you will have a new world to explore. A language
>> only spoken by people with that desire.
>>
>> Desire is everything!
>>
>> K9IL
>>
>>
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-- 
73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW

and thinking about operating CW:
"Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't."
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Re: [Elecraft] 2T Gen problem

[Jeremy Jones]

Don,

Q2 Gate = 5.20v
Q2 Drain = 4.66v

Jeremy

> On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Jeremy,
> 
> What is the voltage at the gate of Q2?  And what is the voltage at the drain?
> Those two points should control the level of the 1900Hz tone.
> 
> Likely possibility is that Q2 was damaged by static when installed.
> 
> You should have the JP2 jumper set for the "T" position.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 10/31/2017 6:01 PM, Jeremy Jones wrote:
>> Hi Don,
>> 
>> I have the 700Hz tone, but not the 1900Hz.  Here is the quote from the 
>> original post.  I measured similar voltages.  I’ve also included your 
>> response to him.  It seems like a pretty simple device, and I’ve double 
>> checked the components and soldering.  My 12 year old daughter did most of 
>> the soldering, so the only thing I can think of is her leaving the heat on 
>> too long and damaging a component, but there are no burn marks on the 
>> circuit board.
>> 
>> The 700 Hz generator works and produces a max 150 mVolt peak signal, but the
>> 1.900 Hz generator does not work. I noticed that Base of 2N3904-Q1 (1.900
>> Hz) shows 0 V, while Base of 2N3904-Q3 (700 Hz) shows 2,1 mV. With a 8.9
>> Volts Vcc, Collector Q1 shows 8,1 Volts while Collector Q3 shows 6.7 Volts.
>> Drains Q2 and Q4 (2N7000) show both 4.4 V (= Vcc/2). The voltages of pins
>> 1,2,3,5,6,7 of U1 (LMC6482) are all 4.4 Volts. Replacing Q1 with an
>> available spare didn't help and didn't change the voltages.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

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[Elecraft] On Digital

[Bill Frantz]

I took a somewhat different path from Wayne, and as a result 
fell in love with the digital modes.


I started as an electronics nerd in junior and senior high 
school. I loved building electronics projects, especially kits.


There was a radio club in high school which encouraged me to get 
my novice ticket. I still remember sometime in 1960, getting on 
the Long Island Railroad to ride into Manhatten to take my test 
at the FCC office. I had ridden the train into New York many 
times before, but this time I turned way downtown instead of 
uptown where I had gone on all previous trips. I arrived at the 
FCC office more than a little bit scared. I managed to pass both 
the written and code tests, and anxiously waited for my ticket 
to arrive in the mail. When it did I was WV2NOO.


I rounded up SX-99 receiver and a Heathkit 40W transmitter kit, 
and then I hit a serious snag. I am dyslexic and have a great 
deal of difficulty with written English. However, CW QSOs are in 
written English with a big does of CW OP jargon. The jargon I 
could handle, but I could not get a string of letters to become 
a word at any speed. Even now, I need to write them down before 
I can recognize which word they represent. My novice year went 
by with almost no QSOs.


Fast forward to the year 2000, 40 years later. Somewhere about 
1975 I had learned to write English, although I was and am a 
slave to spell checkers. My software startup has just gone 
bankrupt. I was at loose ends and said to myself, "I'll study up 
and get a no-code tech ticket. I have caving friends who use the 
WA6BAI repeater in Kings Canyon National Park to communicate. I 
can join them."


I studied the ARRL book and took the test. I aced the test and 
the examiner said, "Why don't you take the general test, it 
won't cost you anything." So I took the general test cold and 
passed. I walked out with a database entry that became KG6JOH 
and a piece of paper that said in essence, "Learn 5 WPM CW in 
the next year and you can have a general."


I had learned 5 WPM 40 years earlier and figured I could do it 
again. So I got the CW CDs and learned the code. At the same 
time I studied for the extra exam because I wanted to stop 
having to jump through hoops and just be a ham. Within the year 
I had passed both exams and became AE6JV. But I still wasn't 
doing very much on the air. I was one of those hams that build 
equipment but rarely use it.



I joined the West Valley Amateur Radio Association (WVARA) 
because the West Valley is where I live and I wanted to support 
at least one open repeater to give back to the hobby and "pay" 
for the open repeaters I used with my caving buddies.


WVARA takes Field Day very seriously. As a new member, I went up 
to the site and saw the CW tent, the 3 SSB tents, and the 
digital tent. I was invited into the CW tent to do some 
operating. I declined because learning 5 WPM for the test 
doesn't mean you can make it in the real world. I did a bit of 
operating in a SSB tent, and then Phil, W6PK who was in charge 
of the digital tent, invited me to do some PSK31 operating. I 
had found my niche. PSK31 was like the computer chat rooms I had 
supported in my last job. Typing I can do with my eyes closed 
and the incoming words appeared in print, so I could read them 
the way I read books, papers, etc.


I look back at my log and see the first 3 years as exclusively 
PSK31 contacts. Then I branched out to RTTY for the North 
American QSO Party. Finally in March 2013 I decide to try to 
contact TX5K on Clipperton Island. On 15M I managed both a SSB 
contact, and my first CW contact. I was decoding the CW both by 
partially ear and partially with the K3. I was sending from the 
K3's memory. After listening to my call many times in the 
pileup, I could recognize it when TX5K came back with it and 
press the other button to send the exchange.


Six months later, my log shows what I described as my first CW 
QSO with Al, W6SQQ in Orange, CA. The log shows he was using a 
K3 with a G5RV and had nice cool weather. I am sure I copied all 
that by typing it into my computer and reading the screen. The 
log from that time shows many digital contacts and a scattering 
of SSB and almost no CW. Then came the W1AW portable operations. 
I was hooked on contacting the W1AWs, and I made many more CW 
contacts, but these were certainly not rag chewing. They were as 
mechanical as the digital contacts when the operators just play 
macros at each other.


These days, when I operate CW, I am either contesting or DXing. 
In either case, the vocabulary is small enough that I can 
recognize the words -- CQ TU 5NN ? -- without having to think 
about the letters. If I need to think about the letters, I still 
use a computer to change them into words, eliminating many of 
the real advantages CW has. I can use a straight key, but slow 
down alarmingly when confronted with a paddle.


Somewhere along the line, I managed to earn a DXCC and a Grand 
Slam 

Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] RE: On CW

[David Mackey]

CK722

David Mackey
k...@comcast.net

> On Oct 31, 2017, at 19:51, Bill Johnson k9...@live.com [Elecraft_K3] 
>  wrote:
> 
> Reminds me of building my first oscillators in the late 50's using any 
> transistors I could find or afford. I used Raytheon CN722's (I think that is 
> correct) for my first oscillator with military Xtals ground to freq. with a 
> wet stone. OMG what an experience and I too got hooked. Did lots of building, 
> then along came elecraft in late 1990's. Hooked again. 
> 
> 73, 
> Bill 
> K9YEQ 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick 
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:38 PM 
> To: Elecraft Reflector  
> Cc: QRP-L ; k...@yahoogroups.com; 
> elecraft...@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [Elecraft] On CW 
> 
> I find that CW has many practical and engaging aspects that I just don’t get 
> with computer-mediated modes like FT8. You’d think I’d be burned out on CW by 
> now, over 45 years since I was first licensed, but no, I’m still doin’ it :) 
> 
> Yes, FT8 (etc.) is a no-brainer when, despite poor conditions, your goal is 
> to log as many contacts as possible with as many states or countries as 
> possible. It’s so streamlined and efficient that the whole process is readily 
> automated. (If you haven’t read enough opinions on that, see "The mother of 
> all FT8 threads” on QRZ.com, for example.) 
> 
> But back to CW. Here’s why it works for me. YMMV. 
> 
> CW feels personal and visceral, like driving a sports car rather than taking 
> a cab. As with a sports car, there are risks. You can get clobbered by larger 
> vehicles (QRM). Witness road range (“UP 2!”). Fall into a pothole (QSB). Be 
> forced to drive through rain or snow (QRN). 
> 
> With CW, like other forms of human conversation, you can affect your own 
> style. Make mistakes. Joke about it. 
> 
> CW is a skill that bonds operators together across generations and nations. A 
> language, more like pidgin than anything else, with abbreviations and 
> historical constructs and imperialist oddities. A curious club anyone can 
> join. (At age 60 and able to copy 50 WPM on a good day, I may qualify as a 
> Nerd Mason of some modest order, worthless in any other domain but of value 
> in a contest.) 
> 
> With very simple equipment that anyone can build, such as a high-power 
> single-transistor oscillator, you can transmit a CW signal. I had very little 
> experience with electronics when I was 14 and built an oscillator that put 
> out maybe 100 mW. Just twisted the leads of all those parts together and 
> keyed the collector supply--a 9-volt battery. With this simple circuit on my 
> desk, coupled to one guy wire of our TV antenna mast, I worked a station 150 
> miles away and was instantly hooked on building things. And on QRP. I’m sure 
> the signal was key-clicky and had lots of harmonics. I’ve spent a lifetime 
> making such things work better, but this is where it started. 
> 
> Going even further down the techno food chain, you can “send” CW by 
> whistling, flashing a lamp, tapping on someone’s leg under a table in civics 
> class, or pounding a wrench on the inverted hull of an upside-down U.S. war 
> vessel, as happened at Pearl Harbor. Last Saturday at an engineering club my 
> son belongs to, a 9-year-old demonstrated an Arduino Uno flashing HELLO WORLD 
> in Morse on an LED. The other kids were impressed, including my son, who 
> promptly wrote a version that sends three independent Morse streams on three 
> LEDs. A mini-pileup. His first program. 
> 
> Finally, to do CW you don’t always need a computer, keyboard, mouse, monitor, 
> or software. Such things are invaluable in our daily lives, but for me, 
> shutting down everything but the radio is the high point of my day. The small 
> display glows like a mystic portal into my personal oyster, the RF spectrum. 
> Unless I crank up the power, there’s no fan noise. Tuning the knob slowly 
> from the bottom end of the band segment to the top is a bit like fishing my 
> favorite stream, Taylor Creek, which connects Fallen Leaf Lake to Lake Tahoe. 
> Drag the line across the green, sunlit pool. See what hits. Big trout? DX. 
> Small trout? Hey, it’s still a fish, and a QSO across town is still a QSO. 
> Admire it, then throw it back in. 
> 
> (BTW: You now know why the Elecraft K3, K3S, KX2, and KX3 all have built-in 
> RTTY and PSK data modes that allow transmit via the keyer paddle and receive 
> on the rig’s display. We decided to make these data modes 
> conversational...like CW.) 
> 
> Back to 40 meters 
> 
> 73, 
> 
> Wayne 
> N6KR 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] My Take on CW

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I started in ham radio as a Novice in 1959.  That required 5 WPM, 
crystal control, 75 watts and only CW.   Finally up to 13 WPM and a 
General license and later to an Extra class license which I hold 
today.    Over the 58 years that are now behind me,  I drifted away from 
CW to a much easier SSB mode.  Now at 75 years of age I find the mind is 
not nearly as sharp, as keen and as fast as it was 50 or so years 
ago.    In order to stimulate the thinking process, hopefully in an 
effort to delay dementia and other mind altering age related issues, 
I've returned to CW.    I'm being reminded of my H.S. math teacher when 
asked "why do we study algebra?", he responded "It's mental gymnastic 
training". That's the way I view and approach CW today.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/31/2017 6:39 PM, greenacres...@charter.net wrote:


The main & I mean main thing is desire. If learning CW is a job or
task you'll probably drop out eventually. In my 57yr.s on CW that's
what I've heard most often. It's too hard, it takes too long or I can
never learn it.

When you learned to ride a bike, get your drivers license or met your
mate it was something you really wanted. The desire was there.

It's only 26 letters, 10 numbers & a few other symbols. You probably
have more PC passwords with a mix of numbers & letters and characters
than what CW requires. Bet you know the passwords by heart.

My Dad [SK W4YAD] passed his 13 WPM code test at age 55 after a mild
stroke. He saw me on CW & wanted to learn. That ole' desire again.

Try what ever method to learn that you are comfortable with. If you
can find a partner that's much better. I was lucky that at age 13 my
best friend & me learned together. We talked in Morse. It was our
secret language. He became K9UFO [SK].

Another motivation you might consider is CW is another language. You
can become bilingual ! Just as playing music or speaking Spanish is a
different language you will have a new world to explore. A language
only spoken by people with that desire.

Desire is everything!

K9IL


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[Elecraft] K3 filters sold

[Ken K6MR]

Thanks for the responses (and to Eric and Wayne for the bandwidth).

Ken K6MR


From: Ken K6MR 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:16:38 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: K3 filters available

I have some K3 filters I don’t need:

(2) of the KFL3A-200   Fc = -0.98 and -0.94
(1) of the KFL3A-2.1K

$75 each shipped CONUS.  Paypal preferred.

Ken K6MR
k6mr -at- outlook.com


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[Elecraft] On CW (or not)

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

For me, CW doesn't really have much romance.  Not big on SSB either.

My favorite time may have been with a model 15 on autostart.

Had a lot of fun with a TAPR Beta TNC too.

I never argue against those who love CW.  I just want a few KC's 
somewhere for my favorite mode(s).


73 -- Lynn
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[Elecraft] Cw

[W4EDN]

What I tell new hams is to learn characters with s high dot rate ( 
e.g.15-20wpm) but with a low character rate e.g.5 won that way you learn the 
"sound" of the character and will
Move faster quicker. The way I got to 25 was to
Copy in my head by visualizing a blackboard and placing the character on that. 
Eventually you hear the sounds of common words( like your call sign) 
Bill w4 edn


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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Bill Johnson]

Reminds me of building my first oscillators in the late 50's using any 
transistors I could find or afford.  I used Raytheon CN722's (I think that is 
correct) for my first oscillator with military Xtals ground to freq. with a wet 
stone.  OMG what an experience and I too got hooked.  Did lots of building, 
then along came elecraft in late 1990's.  Hooked again.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Subject: [Elecraft] On CW

I find that CW has many practical and engaging aspects that I just don’t get 
with computer-mediated modes like FT8. You’d think I’d be burned out on CW by 
now, over 45 years since I was first licensed, but no, I’m still doin’ it :)

Yes, FT8 (etc.) is a no-brainer when, despite poor conditions, your goal is to 
log as many contacts as possible with as many states or countries as possible. 
It’s so streamlined and efficient that the whole process is readily automated. 
(If you haven’t read enough opinions on that, see "The mother of all FT8 
threads” on QRZ.com, for example.)

But back to CW. Here’s why it works for me. YMMV.

CW feels personal and visceral, like driving a sports car rather than taking a 
cab. As with a sports car, there are risks. You can get clobbered by larger 
vehicles (QRM). Witness road range (“UP 2!”). Fall into a pothole (QSB). Be 
forced to drive through rain or snow (QRN). 

With CW, like other forms of human conversation, you can affect your own style. 
Make mistakes. Joke about it.

CW is a skill that bonds operators together across generations and nations. A 
language, more like pidgin than anything else, with abbreviations and 
historical constructs and imperialist oddities. A curious club anyone can join. 
(At age 60 and able to copy 50 WPM on a good day, I may qualify as a Nerd Mason 
of some modest order, worthless in any other domain but of value in a contest.)

With very simple equipment that anyone can build, such as a high-power 
single-transistor oscillator, you can transmit a CW signal. I had very little 
experience with electronics when I was 14 and built an oscillator that put out 
maybe 100 mW. Just twisted the leads of all those parts together and keyed the 
collector supply--a 9-volt battery. With this simple circuit on my desk, 
coupled to one guy wire of our TV antenna mast, I worked a station 150 miles 
away and was instantly hooked on building things. And on QRP. I’m sure the 
signal was key-clicky and had lots of harmonics. I’ve spent a lifetime making 
such things work better, but this is where it started. 

Going even further down the techno food chain, you can “send” CW by whistling, 
flashing a lamp, tapping on someone’s leg under a table in civics class, or 
pounding a wrench on the inverted hull of an upside-down U.S. war vessel, as 
happened at Pearl Harbor. Last Saturday at an engineering club my son belongs 
to, a 9-year-old demonstrated an Arduino Uno flashing HELLO WORLD in Morse on 
an LED. The other kids were impressed, including my son, who promptly wrote a 
version that sends three independent Morse streams on three LEDs. A 
mini-pileup. His first program.

Finally, to do CW you don’t always need a computer, keyboard, mouse, monitor, 
or software. Such things are invaluable in our daily lives, but for me, 
shutting down everything but the radio is the high point of my day. The small 
display glows like a mystic portal into my personal oyster, the RF spectrum. 
Unless I crank up the power, there’s no fan noise. Tuning the knob slowly from 
the bottom end of the band segment to the top is a bit like fishing my favorite 
stream, Taylor Creek, which connects Fallen Leaf Lake to Lake Tahoe. Drag the 
line across the green, sunlit pool. See what hits. Big trout? DX. Small trout? 
Hey, it’s still a fish, and a QSO across town is still a QSO. Admire it, then 
throw it back in.

(BTW: You now know why the Elecraft K3, K3S, KX2, and KX3 all have built-in 
RTTY and PSK data modes that allow transmit via the keyer paddle and receive on 
the rig’s display. We decided to make these data modes conversational...like 
CW.)

Back to 40 meters

73,

Wayne
N6KR



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[Elecraft] My Take on CW

[greenacres113]

The main & I mean main thing is desire. If learning CW is a job or
task you'll probably drop out eventually. In my 57yr.s on CW that's
what I've heard most often. It's too hard, it takes too long or I can
never learn it.

When you learned to ride a bike, get your drivers license or met your
mate it was something you really wanted. The desire was there. 

It's only 26 letters, 10 numbers & a few other symbols. You probably
have more PC passwords with a mix of numbers & letters and characters
than what CW requires. Bet you know the passwords by heart.

My Dad [SK W4YAD] passed his 13 WPM code test at age 55 after a mild
stroke. He saw me on CW & wanted to learn. That ole' desire again.

Try what ever method to learn that you are comfortable with. If you
can find a partner that's much better. I was lucky that at age 13 my
best friend & me learned together. We talked in Morse. It was our
secret language. He became K9UFO [SK].

Another motivation you might consider is CW is another language. You
can become bilingual ! Just as playing music or speaking Spanish is a
different language you will have a new world to explore. A language
only spoken by people with that desire.

Desire is everything!

K9IL


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[Elecraft] On CW

[Steve Silverman]

Hi Wayne

A few years ago I was in a hotel in Sanford, FL for recurrent aircraft
training.  It was actually hovering around 32F.

I was awakened in the middle of the night by some banging on the wall from
my hotel neighbor, and figured a party was going on and went back to
sleep.  Some time later I again heard the banging, but this time it was a
distinct SOS.  Not having any idea of what might be going on, I called the
front desk (3 AM) and informed them that someone might be in trouble
because of the SOS.

A short time later there was fire equipment outside, but no obvious fire or
other reason for concern.

When I checked out after breakfast, I inquired about what had happened
earlier.  The clerk asked if I was the guest who had called  to report the
trouble.  When I answered in the affirmative, she explained that my
neighbor was in the military and knew how to sound SOS and he wanted to
extend his thanks for saving him.

So what had happened?  This guy had stepped out onto his balcony to have a
smoke.  As he closed the sliding door, the latch snapped closed and he was
trapped outside, stark naked, in cold weather.  The front desk clerk went
to his room, but he had closed the safety bar to prevent any intrusion and
the hinges weren't accessible from the outside.  So the fire department was
called and brought him down with a ladder (and hopefully in a blanket).
The hotel had to put him up an an empty room, since his was inaccessible.
The next morning the maintenance crew used their ladder to get inside and
open the door so he could get his belongings.

Morals of the story:  1.  You never know when knowing Morse Code can really
make a difference.  2.  Don't ever smoke naked outside

Steve Silverman  KB3SII
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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Erik Basilier]

In my post about setting up the CWOPS training outside of the organization, I 
omitted the following. When discussing the idea with a CWOPS representative, I 
said some of our presumptive participants might not be able to do Skype. I 
suggested that we instead use an FM net over a repeater. I was told that that 
would be just fine. In your case, if you are not in range of a suitable FM 
communications, I assume HF SSB would be fine as long as you select the 
frequency and time to produce solid communications for all participants.

73,
Erik K7TV

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Thanks.

My problem is that I live out in the country so far that there won't be 
broadband for the rest of my life and probably the life of my grandchildren.  I 
have satelite internet which is fine, but I can not do skype, so CWOPs is out.

Ray

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Re: [Elecraft] 2T Gen problem

[Don Wilhelm]

Jeremy,

What is the voltage at the gate of Q2?  And what is the voltage at the 
drain?

Those two points should control the level of the 1900Hz tone.

Likely possibility is that Q2 was damaged by static when installed.

You should have the JP2 jumper set for the "T" position.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2017 6:01 PM, Jeremy Jones wrote:

Hi Don,

I have the 700Hz tone, but not the 1900Hz.  Here is the quote from the 
original post.  I measured similar voltages.  I’ve also included your 
response to him.  It seems like a pretty simple device, and I’ve 
double checked the components and soldering.  My 12 year old daughter 
did most of the soldering, so the only thing I can think of is her 
leaving the heat on too long and damaging a component, but there are 
no burn marks on the circuit board.


The 700 Hz generator works and produces a max 150 mVolt peak signal, 
but the

1.900 Hz generator does not work. I noticed that Base of 2N3904-Q1 (1.900
Hz) shows 0 V, while Base of 2N3904-Q3 (700 Hz) shows 2,1 mV. With a 8.9
Volts Vcc, Collector Q1 shows 8,1 Volts while Collector Q3 shows 6.7 
Volts.

Drains Q2 and Q4 (2N7000) show both 4.4 V (= Vcc/2). The voltages of pins
1,2,3,5,6,7 of U1 (LMC6482) are all 4.4 Volts. Replacing Q1 with an
available spare didn't help and didn't change the voltages.





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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Frequency Calibration using WWV Audio Tones

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

See the article "Transmit and Receive on Frequency" as published in 
Sept. 2015 QST.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/31/2017 1:17 PM, Steve Kavanagh via Elecraft wrote:

I was wondering if anyone had tried doing the reference oscillator frequency 
calibration for a K2 without the rather troublesome step of accurate 
zero-beating by feeding the 500/600 Hz audio tones from WWV/WWVH to a computer 
sound card or smart phone spectrum analyzer, or similar program?  It's pretty 
easy to read these audio frequencies out to a precision of 1 Hz or so using 
Spectran or Spectrogram, for example.

Right now, I'm seeing both WWV and WWVH tones (at the same time!) on my 
computer screen (within a few Hz of the correct audio frequencies), with the K2 
tuned to 15000.24 kHz, so it really ought to be re-calibrated.

Are there any issues with this option, before I start into the whole process?

73,
Steve VE3SMA




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Re: [Elecraft] 2T Gen problem

[Jeremy Jones]

Hi Don,

I have the 700Hz tone, but not the 1900Hz.  Here is the quote from the original 
post.  I measured similar voltages.  I’ve also included your response to him.  
It seems like a pretty simple device, and I’ve double checked the components 
and soldering.  My 12 year old daughter did most of the soldering, so the only 
thing I can think of is her leaving the heat on too long and damaging a 
component, but there are no burn marks on the circuit board.

The 700 Hz generator works and produces a max 150 mVolt peak signal, but the 
1.900 Hz generator does not work. I noticed that Base of 2N3904-Q1 (1.900 
Hz) shows 0 V, while Base of 2N3904-Q3 (700 Hz) shows 2,1 mV. With a 8.9 
Volts Vcc, Collector Q1 shows 8,1 Volts while Collector Q3 shows 6.7 Volts. 
Drains Q2 and Q4 (2N7000) show both 4.4 V (= Vcc/2). The voltages of pins 
1,2,3,5,6,7 of U1 (LMC6482) are all 4.4 Volts. Replacing Q1 with an 
available spare didn't help and didn't change the voltages. 

  

With the scope, I get a 689 Hz sinusoidal signal on U1 pin 7 (570 mV peak), 
but nothing on U1 - pin 1. 

There is a "saw teeth" signal on collector Q3, nothing on collector Q1. 


Raymond, 

I believe the oscillator should oscillate even with Q1 removed.  Look 
carefully at the feedback loop around U1A particularly C2, C4, R1, R2 
and R6.  Be certain the jumper blocks are in the 'T' position. 

The most likely problem is soldering or a misplaced component.  Use a 
magnifier to check for any tiny slivers of solder between adjacent pins. 

73 and good luck with it, 
Don W3FPR 


Thanks,
Jeremy



> On Oct 31, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Jeremy,
> 
> I don't do Nabble, so I don't know about that 10 year old post.
> What is your problem with your 2T-Gen?
> Note that this is one of the 2 Elecraft products that use a hyphen in the 
> model designation!  The N-Gen is the other one.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 10/31/2017 5:39 PM, JeremyJones wrote:
>> Well this post is 10 years old, but I am having the exact same problem.  I
>> have checked with a magnifying glass for any solder bridges or poor solder
>> joints.  Everything looks fine.  I'd appreciate any further troubleshooting
>> ideas.
>> 73,
>> Jeremy
>> VA3ZTF
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Re: [Elecraft] 2T Gen problem

[Don Wilhelm]

Jeremy,

I don't do Nabble, so I don't know about that 10 year old post.
What is your problem with your 2T-Gen?
Note that this is one of the 2 Elecraft products that use a hyphen in 
the model designation!  The N-Gen is the other one.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2017 5:39 PM, JeremyJones wrote:

Well this post is 10 years old, but I am having the exact same problem.  I
have checked with a magnifying glass for any solder bridges or poor solder
joints.  Everything looks fine.  I'd appreciate any further troubleshooting
ideas.

73,
Jeremy
VA3ZTF



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Re: [Elecraft] Best way to connect K3, P3, Steppir, Acom 600s and PC

[Don Wilhelm]

Alan,

Another answer along with a bit more data and a caution - IF the amp is 
capable of listening on the RS-232 connection for band information, add 
another "Y" cable between your current "Y" cable and the PC and the amp 
should be able to use that data.


Caution, if the amp uses full RS-232 communication (both send and 
listen), that will interfere with your current setup.  BUT if the amp 
only 'listens' to the information on the RS-232 interface, all will work 
well.


In other words, an RS-232 connection can have only one set of drivers. 
Multiple devices can 'listen in' to the traffic on the receive line with 
no problem.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2017 4:50 PM, WA6KEK wrote:

Hi there,
Currently have my K3, P3, Steppir controller and PC working flawlessly via
the RS232 out on the K3 to the P3 then the Y cable to the Steppir and the
PC. Steppir follows logging program as does the K3 etc.
I just bought a Acom 600s and am not clear on how to best work it into my
connections so I get the auto band switching. I don't really want to use the
RF sensing method through the antenna cable.
Can the ACC port on the K3 be used to control the amp? I don't have anything
connected to that ACC port.
Thanks for any help!

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Re: [Elecraft] 2T Gen problem

[JeremyJones]

Well this post is 10 years old, but I am having the exact same problem.  I
have checked with a magnifying glass for any solder bridges or poor solder
joints.  Everything looks fine.  I'd appreciate any further troubleshooting
ideas.

73,
Jeremy
VA3ZTF



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[Elecraft] KX3 Digital Voice Recorder

[Gerard Elijzen]

Hi all,

Have just recorded 2 messages using my KX3. Both played back well. However, I 
wanted to chain message 1 and 2 but have not been successful. When playing 
message 1 in repeat mode and then pressing #2 button the display shows “Chain” 
but messages stop altogether.

All help appreciated



73, 44

Gerard VK2JNG

Search for and follow VK2JNG on Instagram to see photos of VKFF Park 
activations.






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Re: [Elecraft] Best way to connect K3, P3, Steppir, Acom 600s and PC

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

The N6TV Acc port devices work great.  Allow 4 attachements to the ACC 
15 pin lines and much much more.



On 10/31/2017 3:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Alan,

Not having that amplifier, I cannot give you a positive answer, but I 
can tell you how to determine if the BAND DATA outputs of the ACC 
connector will band switch the amplifier.


What you need to look for is "band decoder" or something similar in 
the amp manual.  There may even be a chart of which codes will 
activate which bands.  Compare that with the chart of the coding on 
the BAND 0-3 outputs of the ACC pins.  If they match, then all you 
have to do is make up a cable to send the right bits to the amplifier.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2017 4:50 PM, WA6KEK wrote:

Hi there,
Currently have my K3, P3, Steppir controller and PC working 
flawlessly via
the RS232 out on the K3 to the P3 then the Y cable to the Steppir and 
the

PC. Steppir follows logging program as does the K3 etc.
I just bought a Acom 600s and am not clear on how to best work it 
into my
connections so I get the auto band switching. I don't really want to 
use the

RF sensing method through the antenna cable.
Can the ACC port on the K3 be used to control the amp? I don't have 
anything

connected to that ACC port.
Thanks for any help!

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Re: [Elecraft] Best way to connect K3, P3, Steppir, Acom 600s and PC

[Don Wilhelm]

Alan,

Not having that amplifier, I cannot give you a positive answer, but I 
can tell you how to determine if the BAND DATA outputs of the ACC 
connector will band switch the amplifier.


What you need to look for is "band decoder" or something similar in the 
amp manual.  There may even be a chart of which codes will activate 
which bands.  Compare that with the chart of the coding on the BAND 0-3 
outputs of the ACC pins.  If they match, then all you have to do is make 
up a cable to send the right bits to the amplifier.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2017 4:50 PM, WA6KEK wrote:

Hi there,
Currently have my K3, P3, Steppir controller and PC working flawlessly via
the RS232 out on the K3 to the P3 then the Y cable to the Steppir and the
PC. Steppir follows logging program as does the K3 etc.
I just bought a Acom 600s and am not clear on how to best work it into my
connections so I get the auto band switching. I don't really want to use the
RF sensing method through the antenna cable.
Can the ACC port on the K3 be used to control the amp? I don't have anything
connected to that ACC port.
Thanks for any help!

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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[rkruse]

Thanks.

My problem is that I live out in the country so far that there won't be 
broadband for the rest of my life and probably the life of my 
grandchildren.  I have satelite internet which is fine, but I can not do 
skype, so CWOPs is out.


Ray

On 10/31/2017 3:08 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
CWOPS CW Academy...  Learn by hearing.  Don't EVER use a chart. If YOU 
doo your part, you can be head copying 25 wpm in what I consider a 
very short time.


I'm not there yet (just finished Level 1), but I'm headed thataway!


On 10/31/2017 1:26 PM, rkr...@johngalt.biz wrote:
Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are 
gung-ho on CW is; how did you begin the learning process?  Is there 
some secret that I missed?


73

Ray
KK4WPB 


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[Elecraft] Best way to connect K3, P3, Steppir, Acom 600s and PC

[WA6KEK]

Hi there,
Currently have my K3, P3, Steppir controller and PC working flawlessly via
the RS232 out on the K3 to the P3 then the Y cable to the Steppir and the
PC. Steppir follows logging program as does the K3 etc.
I just bought a Acom 600s and am not clear on how to best work it into my
connections so I get the auto band switching. I don't really want to use the
RF sensing method through the antenna cable.
Can the ACC port on the K3 be used to control the amp? I don't have anything
connected to that ACC port.
Thanks for any help!
Alan



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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Jim Miller]

I use Morse Elmer on my iphone to practice.

I like it.

jim ab3cv

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Three unanswerable questions:  "What is the meaning of life?";  "Are there
> hams in other star systems?"; "What is the secret to learning Morse code?",
> and, if 50 people answer your question [likely a low estimate], you will
> get 62.87 answers. [:-)
>
> The "secret" really is ... there is no "secret."  There as many effective
> ways as there are aspiring CW operators.  Not every method works for
> everyone.  Here's a partial short-list of things to investigate:
>
> 1.  CW Academy, operated by the CWOps group  cwops.org
>
> 2.  Download Morsegen [http://www.g4ilo.com/morsegen.html].  It will send
> to you in a variety of modes, including text from a file
>
> 3.  Make audio files from Morsegen, write them to a USB stick or CD's, and
> "read" them while on the way to work or a long trip
>
> 4.  Send to yourself.  Put the K3s in TEST mode
>
> 5.  Listen to W1AW practice and bulletin sessions [1]
>
> 6.  Listen to CW contests [2]
>
> 7.  Have "in-room QSO's" with K3s in TEST with a friend
>
> 8.  Put a Morse ringtone on your fone.  Mine sends the name, if in my fone
> book, or the number if not, for calls and SMS.  You may not get much
> practice unless you get a lot of calls/texts but it sure gets attention in
> the checkout line at Home Depot. [:-)
>
> 9.  Put your K3s in TX NORM mode and start making Q's at a speed you're
> comfortable with.  I hear a number of 5 WPM CQ's in the afternoons on 20
> around 14050.
>
> Note:  There is a vast difference between verbatim copy and "head copy."
> In a normal QSO, the probability is 0.9964 that the only elements you'll
> hear will be RST, Name, QTH, Rig, Antenna, Wx, and "WL TNX QSO GUD DX CUL
> 73."  The only one you really need to jot down is name.  The only time
> verbatim copy is needed is in traffic handling.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> [1] A potential issue with the W1AW at increasing speeds is that one can
> become obsessive over one's current speed.  One needs to forget about
> speed, yours is what it is and it will increase.
>
> [2] Speeds in contests will range around 30-35 WPM.  However, all that is
> being sent is call signs and some very small amount of "data" such as 5NN 3
> [fake signal report and CQ zone #].  In the Wed CWT's it's a name [all
> short] and 1-4 digit member #, and knowing what's coming next will improve
> your copy ability and speed dramatically.
>
> On 10/31/2017 11:26 AM, rkr...@johngalt.biz wrote:
>
>> Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are
>> gung-ho on CW is; how did you begin the learning process?  Is there some
>> secret that I missed?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Ray
>> KK4WPB
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Fred Jensen]

Three unanswerable questions:  "What is the meaning of life?";  "Are 
there hams in other star systems?"; "What is the secret to learning 
Morse code?", and, if 50 people answer your question [likely a low 
estimate], you will get 62.87 answers. [:-)


The "secret" really is ... there is no "secret."  There as many 
effective ways as there are aspiring CW operators.  Not every method 
works for everyone.  Here's a partial short-list of things to investigate:


1.  CW Academy, operated by the CWOps group  cwops.org

2.  Download Morsegen [http://www.g4ilo.com/morsegen.html].  It will 
send to you in a variety of modes, including text from a file


3.  Make audio files from Morsegen, write them to a USB stick or CD's, 
and "read" them while on the way to work or a long trip


4.  Send to yourself.  Put the K3s in TEST mode

5.  Listen to W1AW practice and bulletin sessions [1]

6.  Listen to CW contests [2]

7.  Have "in-room QSO's" with K3s in TEST with a friend

8.  Put a Morse ringtone on your fone.  Mine sends the name, if in my 
fone book, or the number if not, for calls and SMS.  You may not get 
much practice unless you get a lot of calls/texts but it sure gets 
attention in the checkout line at Home Depot. [:-)


9.  Put your K3s in TX NORM mode and start making Q's at a speed you're 
comfortable with.  I hear a number of 5 WPM CQ's in the afternoons on 20 
around 14050.


Note:  There is a vast difference between verbatim copy and "head 
copy."  In a normal QSO, the probability is 0.9964 that the only 
elements you'll hear will be RST, Name, QTH, Rig, Antenna, Wx, and "WL 
TNX QSO GUD DX CUL 73."  The only one you really need to jot down is 
name.  The only time verbatim copy is needed is in traffic handling.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

[1] A potential issue with the W1AW at increasing speeds is that one can 
become obsessive over one's current speed.  One needs to forget about 
speed, yours is what it is and it will increase.


[2] Speeds in contests will range around 30-35 WPM.  However, all that 
is being sent is call signs and some very small amount of "data" such as 
5NN 3 [fake signal report and CQ zone #].  In the Wed CWT's it's a name 
[all short] and 1-4 digit member #, and knowing what's coming next will 
improve your copy ability and speed dramatically.


On 10/31/2017 11:26 AM, rkr...@johngalt.biz wrote:
Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are 
gung-ho on CW is; how did you begin the learning process?  Is there 
some secret that I missed?


73

Ray
KK4WPB




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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[marvwheeler]

Early on in my ham radio experience I also struggled with the ability to copy 
cw.

I finally decided to devote 30 minutes each and every day to listening to code 
on the air. Many days it would have been easier to go to bed and forget the 
allocated 30 minutes but I could easily see the improvement in my ability to 
copy cw. 

For about 1 year I kept a sked with a former Navy code instructor. He was a big 
jokester and would send jokes on the air  but would not repeat the punch line. 
Frustrating yes but it made you listen closely.

I still can't copy 50 wpm and at 80 years old I doubt if I ever will but 30 to 
35 wpm is not a bad. What ever the speed it is enjoyable.

I for one am lucky enough to have in the log.

Marv
KG7V

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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Erik Basilier]

I learnt CW the old way around 1962: starting at slow speed, but I believe that 
is not the best way. Recently a local club I belong to (most of the guys are 
fm/repeater types, but a few are interested in reviving/building their CW 
skills) asked me to think about a possible CW training program. I searched, and 
found the CWOPS CW Academy. I was very impressed! However, I found their 
website a bit confusing, so I dug further. I have found out: They are a club 
with membership fees, but you don't need to be a member to take the training. 
(In fact, you can't become a member unless you are already good at CW.) Their 
beginner classes work the same whether the student had learnt CW in the past or 
is a complete beginner, and I get the impression that the success rate would be 
about the same for both kinds of student. They run only 3 beginner classes per 
year, recruited from all over the world, and the number of students admitted 
per class is quite small. It appears that there is a wait
 ing list of a year or so. When you are already hesitant, that wait has to 
discourage you a bit, and so would the need to align your schedule to their 
start date. I contacted the organization and asked if I (not a member of CWOPS) 
would be allowed to teach the beginner class, using the CWOPS method and 
training materials to local students, at a time of their choice. The answer was 
yes! I didn't ask whether any prospective CW teacher would be allowed to do 
this, but if you know your CW at better than 20 WPM, I think it very likely 
that CWOPS would approve your request to teach using their materials. So, if 
you are a student interested in learning CW the CWOPS way, but don't want to 
wait for a the CWOPS official class, maybe you could find somebody local to 
lead a CWOPS type class for you and a few friends, assuming that that person 
would get approval and training materials from CWOPS. As to my running such a 
class, I am not sure that my club will actually go forward with it, b
 ut it seems like a good idea if the prospective students are eager to learn.

73,
Erik K7TV

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clay Autery 
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:08 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] On CW

CWOPS CW Academy...  Learn by hearing.  Don't EVER use a chart. If YOU doo your 
part, you can be head copying 25 wpm in what I consider a very short time.

I'm not there yet (just finished Level 1), but I'm headed thataway!


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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[EUGENE GABRY]

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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[F5vjc]

YES!
 Well said Wayne.

I have always loved CW from being a small boy with an old straight key and
buzzer, learned Morse before I knew of amateur radio.

Short Wave Wireless will never lose its fascination for me and
to communicate via the ionosphere with another by Morse code is the
ultimate thrill.

Today, despite having all the best equipment to hand together with computer
assistance internet and all the latest gadgets and aids.

The original concept of visualising the remote OP hand on key, sending a
signal, 'instantaneously' arriving in my receiver is still magic, and to
hear your own call come back to you in CW just can't be bettered.

Of course, I do appreciate all the modern digital modes, I get them
working, try them but then rapidly lose interest and return to CW, the
personal mode requiring some degree of aptitude, perseverence, and skill to
be part of the club and call yourself a CW OP.

Still 'just a boy and his radio'

73, F5VJC



On 31 October 2017 at 05:26, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP 
wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> Thanks for this and for everything else you've done for CW, and especially
> for making good CW functionality an objective for all Elecraft rigs.
>
> For me, nothing in amateur radio can possibly beat the thrill of hearing
> my own call in a weak and fluttery CW signal from the other side of the
> world. It's the same feeling I got 61 years ago when a guy across town
> answered my call for the first time.
>
> Judging by the display on my P3, there is often more digital activity than
> CW these days. I've tried it and I'm impressed, but I'm impressed by what
> my smartphone can do, too.
>
> My feeling is, "great, that is so cool, now back to REAL radio."
>
> CW is special and I hope it will stay around for many more years, despite
> the technical "superiority" of other modes.
>
> 73,
> Victor, 4X6GP
> Rehovot, Israel
> Formerly K2VCO
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
> CWops #5
>
>
> On 31 Oct 2017 04:37, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>
>> I find that CW has many practical and engaging aspects that I just
>> don’t get with computer-mediated modes like FT8. You’d think I’d be
>> burned out on CW by now, over 45 years since I was first licensed,
>> but no, I’m still doin’ it :)
>>
>> Yes, FT8 (etc.) is a no-brainer when, despite poor conditions, your
>> goal is to log as many contacts as possible with as many states or
>> countries as possible. It’s so streamlined and efficient that the
>> whole process is readily automated. (If you haven’t read enough
>> opinions on that, see "The mother of all FT8 threads” on QRZ.com, for
>> example.)
>>
>> But back to CW. Here’s why it works for me. YMMV.
>>
>> CW feels personal and visceral, like driving a sports car rather than
>> taking a cab. As with a sports car, there are risks. You can get
>> clobbered by larger vehicles (QRM). Witness road range (“UP 2!”).
>> Fall into a pothole (QSB). Be forced to drive through rain or snow
>> (QRN).
>>
>> With CW, like other forms of human conversation, you can affect your
>> own style. Make mistakes. Joke about it.
>>
>> CW is a skill that bonds operators together across generations and
>> nations. A language, more like pidgin than anything else, with
>> abbreviations and historical constructs and imperialist oddities. A
>> curious club anyone can join. (At age 60 and able to copy 50 WPM on a
>> good day, I may qualify as a Nerd Mason of some modest order,
>> worthless in any other domain but of value in a contest.)
>>
>> With very simple equipment that anyone can build, such as a
>> high-power single-transistor oscillator, you can transmit a CW
>> signal. I had very little experience with electronics when I was 14
>> and built an oscillator that put out maybe 100 mW. Just twisted the
>> leads of all those parts together and keyed the collector supply--a
>> 9-volt battery. With this simple circuit on my desk, coupled to one
>> guy wire of our TV antenna mast, I worked a station 150 miles away
>> and was instantly hooked on building things. And on QRP. I’m sure the
>> signal was key-clicky and had lots of harmonics. I’ve spent a
>> lifetime making such things work better, but this is where it
>> started.
>>
>> Going even further down the techno food chain, you can “send” CW by
>> whistling, flashing a lamp, tapping on someone’s leg under a table in
>> civics class, or pounding a wrench on the inverted hull of an
>> upside-down U.S. war vessel, as happened at Pearl Harbor. Last
>> Saturday at an engineering club my son belongs to, a 9-year-old
>> demonstrated an Arduino Uno flashing HELLO WORLD in Morse on an LED.
>> The other kids were impressed, including my son, who promptly wrote a
>> version that sends three independent Morse streams on three LEDs. A
>> mini-pileup. His first program.
>>
>> Finally, to do CW you don’t always need a computer, keyboard, mouse,
>> monitor, or software. Such things are invaluable in our daily lives,
>> but for me, shutting down everything but the radio is the high point
>> of 

Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Nolan Kienitz]

Wayne,

Most appreciate your putting into words the elements and lure of CW.  The ham 
radio bug bit me in the late 1950s when a farmer in NE Montana (near our farm) 
happened to be a ham. He had a huge tower and beam and Hallicrafters receivers 
and transmitters. I was hooked and went on to get my 3rd Class Radiotelephone 
license and was able to work at our local FM station during high school. 
Following some college I went to a broadcast school in Minneapolis and ended up 
with my 1st Class Radiotelephone license and worked in broadcast radio for many 
years in Texas.

Finally got my novice and technician licenses over the years as well. Completed 
exams for Extra, but only did minimal on CW to get the ticket.

I've finally pushed myself to work CW as much as possible, but with my aging 
gray matter now it takes some time. I thoroughly enjoy CW and continue to 
struggle/learn better head-copy, but that just takes time and practice, 
practice and more practice.

Such a thrill to work CW even for a quick Q or a rag chew and now that I'm 
mostly retired I'm able to continue my learnin' of CW.

Great posting Wayne and thanks to you and everyone at Elecraft for simply 
excellent rigs.


73,
Nolan Kienitz  -  KI5IO


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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Gary Smith]

I agree with the below completely. Another 
excellent source is to tune into the 
ARRL's Code Transmissions on the air. They 
start at a fast speed and when finished, 
move to the next lower speed and so on. 
The advantage is you are trying to copy 
perfect CW sent faster than you can 
actually copy but you force yourself to 
listen harder, so you end up hearing more. 
When you get close to the speed you can 
copy, your head is already thinking CW 
better than usual and your comprehension 
is much better. 

http://www.arrl.org/code-transmissions

As it mentions in the link, the code is 
from QST and if you have the article in 
front of you, you can read it at the same 
time. I didn't find doing that was greatly 
helpful for me but another person might. 
The perfect CW and the slowing of the 
speed made the difference to me.

73,

Gary
KA1J



> Thanks.  I will look into it.
> 
> On 10/31/2017 2:44 PM, Buck wrote:
> >
> > The secret is in the way you approach it.  Method today is to learn
> > the sound of a letter.  A is not dot dash or dit dah.  It is not
> > Ah Pull. It is not ._    It is the sound of didah.  You repeat
> > each letter until you have it down and move to the next one. This is
> > called the Koch method.
> >
> > The letters are sent at 20 wpm to reinforce they are one sound. Code
> > is sent slower by expanding the space between letters.  This is
> > called Farnsworth method.

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[Elecraft] On CW

[Dauer, Edward]

Beautifully said, Wayne.  

At risk of painting the lilly, as the Bard said, I could add only that from 
here, at the age of 73, it brings me back to there, at the age of 13.  Nothing 
else does.

Ted, KN1CBR
 

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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Gary Smith]

Wayne,

Add me to the chorus of CW and my thanks 
to the efforts of you, Eric & Elecraft for 
making such an excellent series of 
transceivers and mating components. I 
bought my Elecraft rig solely for the CW 
aspect, I wanted to hear the faintest 
signals I could possibly contact. 
Additionally, I liked that the company 
facilities are located in the states. I 
certainly buy from overseas, my CW paddle 
is a Begalli Sculpture, but I like that 
your company is here.

I did not come to CW easily, I learned it 
at 7 in the Cub Scouts and my father had 
been a ham since 1937 and coached me but I 
didn't get my ticket till I was 29. In 
less than a year from my Novice ticket I 
passed the Extra and have loved CW ever 
since. 

My first radio was a Kenwood 820S and it 
wasn't as good with CW as the Drake TR7 so 
I upgraded to that. The Corsair II was a 
better CW rig than the TR7 so I went 
TenTec. I liked the TT Omni 5 better than 
the Corsair II for CW so went with that. 
When I heard a K3 and read about the 
options I went Elecraft and bought a kit. 
Now I have the K3s. All the changes in 
radios because of my love for CW above all 
else in Ham Radio.

Thanks to all of you for your efforts. I 
look forward to the next Elecraft 
innovations.

73,

Gary
KA1J
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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Buddy Brannan]

Matt!

Yes, this exactly. I'm not that much older than you are (44), and got licensed 
at 14. In spite of my best efforts, I fell in love with cw. I think a lot of 
y'all have articulated the why in a way I never could. I approached it as a 
socially awkward nerdy kid who knew that morse code wasn't cool in any way, but 
it was a necessary evil. Then I learned it wrong. After I got straightened out 
on that, it was magic. I took to it like the proverbial duck to water. 

Here's the funny thing. Wet up a ham radio demonstration. Play cw. Watch people 
come to see what it's all about. Do the same with voice. Watch people walk 
past. Digital, no clue how people react. But cw intrigues. Maybe it's because 
of the novelty. But it interests people. Oh sure, lots of the people it draws 
say I could lever learn that", and maybe that adds to the appeal? It's like 
this magic thing that not many people know. Like, hey, I'm the only guy on my 
block that knows this. But all I know for sure is that it's a whole lot of fun, 
and I hope that folks like you and me can help pass it on when all of those old 
farts® move on to that great big ol' radio ranch over yonder. 

--
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> On Oct 31, 2017, at 2:38 PM, Matt NQ6N  wrote:
> 
> I'm comparatively young (41) but I appreciate the musings about CW.  I
> still remember the first CW QSO I observed at a demonstration at a Red
> Cross building in Michigan when I was 11 years old.  I'd had a pair of
> plastic FM walkie talkies as a young child that had the dots and dashes of
> Morse embossed onto the front, but I had not expected the thrill that I
> felt as an actual CW QSO was made before my eyes. I was licensed a few
> months later.
> 
> Another memorable CW QSO for me was the first time I sat in front of a
> friend's K3.  The audio sounded so clear and beautiful that I soon ordered
> my own.
> 
> I think there is something very special about the art form of CW and the
> kind of craftsmanship and passion that it inspires.  Thanks to Wayne and
> everyone at Elecraft, the CWOps, etc, for keeping the magic alive.
> 
> 73,
> Matt NQ6N
> 
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 1:26 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 10/31/2017 2:02 PM, engineercm wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you so much for articulating the magic about CW.
>>> 
>> 
>> As a teen I tried to learn Morse Code and never was able to get very far.
>> With Morse as a condition for getting a license, I never thought about
>> getting a Ham License although I was very heavy into electronics and got my
>> First Class Radiotelephone License.  (To show my age, the testing only had
>> one transistor question; all the rest were tubes.)
>> 
>> When I discovered that Morse Code had been removed as a requirement (2014
>> or so) I began studying for my tests and made Extra within a few months.
>> 
>> I have  K3S that I am about to put on the air, on SSB to begin because
>> that is what I currently understand.
>> 
>> I have had CW recommended, but am unwilling to repeat the head banging
>> experience I went through 50+ years ago.
>> 
>> Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are
>> gung-ho on CW is; how did you begin the learning process?  Is there some
>> secret that I missed?
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Ray
>> KK4WPB
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have
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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Clay Autery]

CWOPS CW Academy...  Learn by hearing.  Don't EVER use a chart. If YOU 
doo your part, you can be head copying 25 wpm in what I consider a very 
short time.


I'm not there yet (just finished Level 1), but I'm headed thataway!


On 10/31/2017 1:26 PM, rkr...@johngalt.biz wrote:
Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are 
gung-ho on CW is; how did you begin the learning process?  Is there 
some secret that I missed?


73

Ray
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Frequency Calibration using WWV Audio Tones

[Don Wilhelm]

Steve,

That is exactly how I tune WWV before reading the VFO (TP1) and BFO 
(TP2) frequencies.  Adjust Control Board C22 until the 3 lower order 
digits match (since you are listening to a station known to be on a 
xx000.000 boundary the subtraction process is a snap.

You may want to LOC the VFO so the knob is not accidentally changed.

Additional information on my website www.w3fpr.com article on K2 Dial 
Calibration.


After doing CAL PLL and CAL FIL, go back to WWV and check the results. 
If you are within 20 Hz, that is about as good as you can expect.  The 
variation in BFO frequencies between filters in the K2 can be as much as 
20 Hz because of the resolution of the DAC.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/31/2017 2:17 PM, Steve Kavanagh via Elecraft wrote:

I was wondering if anyone had tried doing the reference oscillator frequency 
calibration for a K2 without the rather troublesome step of accurate 
zero-beating by feeding the 500/600 Hz audio tones from WWV/WWVH to a computer 
sound card or smart phone spectrum analyzer, or similar program?  It's pretty 
easy to read these audio frequencies out to a precision of 1 Hz or so using 
Spectran or Spectrogram, for example.

Right now, I'm seeing both WWV and WWVH tones (at the same time!) on my 
computer screen (within a few Hz of the correct audio frequencies), with the K2 
tuned to 15000.24 kHz, so it really ought to be re-calibrated.

Are there any issues with this option, before I start into the whole process?

73,
Steve VE3SMA
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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Ronnie Hull]

When I was a Boy Scout and working on first class rank in 1965, you had to 
learn Morse, or Semaphore. Who wants to wave flags? So I memorized he code and 
passed first class. An assistant Scoutmaster who was a neighbor knew I was a 
broadcast station listener and showed up at he house one day with a cool 
looking old black receiver, a BC348 which he gave me
One day I was tuning around and found some really really slow code that I could 
sort of copy. I realized his wasn't commercial or military it was just guys 
talking! Mr sweet inform d they were Hams! I listened a LOT AND THE REST IS 
HISTORY!
I had a 15wpm sped before I even took my novice!

Ronnie W5SUN

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> On Oct 31, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Alan  wrote:
> 
> I learned Morse code the "wrong" way.  I had built a Knight-Kit Star Roamer, 
> a very simple tube-type shortwave receiver that was mainly for AM reception 
> but could "kind-of" receive CW.  In the back of the manual they had the Morse 
> code written out in dots and dashes.
> 
> So I memorized a couple of letters (E and T since they were the simplest) and 
> started listening.  Every once in awhile I could hear a letter that sounded 
> like a single dot or dash, so I was pretty sure those were E and T.
> 
> Then I added a few more letters hoping to hear a complete word.  I think the 
> first complete word I copied was "THE".  Then I added more and more 
> characters (starting with the most common ones) until I had the complete 
> alphabet, numbers and symbols.
> 
> One advantage of this method is you never get caught on a speed "plateau" 
> because you are listening at full speed from the beginning.
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/31/2017 11:26 AM, rkr...@johngalt.biz wrote:
>>> On 10/31/2017 2:02 PM, engineercm wrote:
>>> Thank you so much for articulating the magic about CW.
>> As a teen I tried to learn Morse Code and never was able to get very far.  
>> With Morse as a condition for getting a license, I never thought about 
>> getting a Ham License although I was very heavy into electronics and got my 
>> First Class Radiotelephone License.  (To show my age, the testing only had 
>> one transistor question; all the rest were tubes.)
>> When I discovered that Morse Code had been removed as a requirement (2014 or 
>> so) I began studying for my tests and made Extra within a few months.
>> I have  K3S that I am about to put on the air, on SSB to begin because that 
>> is what I currently understand.
>> I have had CW recommended, but am unwilling to repeat the head banging 
>> experience I went through 50+ years ago.
>> Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are gung-ho 
>> on CW is; how did you begin the learning process?  Is there some secret that 
>> I missed?
>> 73
>> Ray
>> KK4WPB
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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Alan]

I learned Morse code the "wrong" way.  I had built a Knight-Kit Star 
Roamer, a very simple tube-type shortwave receiver that was mainly for 
AM reception but could "kind-of" receive CW.  In the back of the manual 
they had the Morse code written out in dots and dashes.


So I memorized a couple of letters (E and T since they were the 
simplest) and started listening.  Every once in awhile I could hear a 
letter that sounded like a single dot or dash, so I was pretty sure 
those were E and T.


Then I added a few more letters hoping to hear a complete word.  I think 
the first complete word I copied was "THE".  Then I added more and more 
characters (starting with the most common ones) until I had the complete 
alphabet, numbers and symbols.


One advantage of this method is you never get caught on a speed 
"plateau" because you are listening at full speed from the beginning.


Alan N1AL



On 10/31/2017 11:26 AM, rkr...@johngalt.biz wrote:


On 10/31/2017 2:02 PM, engineercm wrote:

Thank you so much for articulating the magic about CW.


As a teen I tried to learn Morse Code and never was able to get very 
far.  With Morse as a condition for getting a license, I never thought 
about getting a Ham License although I was very heavy into electronics 
and got my First Class Radiotelephone License.  (To show my age, the 
testing only had one transistor question; all the rest were tubes.)


When I discovered that Morse Code had been removed as a requirement 
(2014 or so) I began studying for my tests and made Extra within a few 
months.


I have  K3S that I am about to put on the air, on SSB to begin because 
that is what I currently understand.


I have had CW recommended, but am unwilling to repeat the head banging 
experience I went through 50+ years ago.


Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are 
gung-ho on CW is; how did you begin the learning process?  Is there some 
secret that I missed?


73

Ray
KK4WPB



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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[rkruse]

Thanks.  I will look into it.

On 10/31/2017 2:44 PM, Buck wrote:


The secret is in the way you approach it.  Method today is to learn 
the sound of a letter.  A is not dot dash or dit dah.  It is not Ah 
Pull. It is not ._    It is the sound of didah.  You repeat each 
letter until you have it down and move to the next one. This is called 
the Koch method.


The letters are sent at 20 wpm to reinforce they are one sound. Code 
is sent slower by expanding the space between letters.  This is called 
Farnsworth method.


Here's a free trainer program  http://www.g4fon.net/

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com

On 10/31/2017 2:26 PM, rkr...@johngalt.biz wrote:


On 10/31/2017 2:02 PM, engineercm wrote:

Thank you so much for articulating the magic about CW.


As a teen I tried to learn Morse Code and never was able to get very 
far.  With Morse as a condition for getting a license, I never 
thought about getting a Ham License although I was very heavy into 
electronics and got my First Class Radiotelephone License.  (To show 
my age, the testing only had one transistor question; all the rest 
were tubes.)


When I discovered that Morse Code had been removed as a requirement 
(2014 or so) I began studying for my tests and made Extra within a 
few months.


I have  K3S that I am about to put on the air, on SSB to begin 
because that is what I currently understand.


I have had CW recommended, but am unwilling to repeat the head 
banging experience I went through 50+ years ago.


Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are 
gung-ho on CW is; how did you begin the learning process? Is there 
some secret that I missed?


73

Ray
KK4WPB



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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Buck]

The secret is in the way you approach it.  Method today is to learn the 
sound of a letter.  A is not dot dash or dit dah.  It is not Ah Pull. It 
is not ._It is the sound of didah.  You repeat each letter until you 
have it down and move to the next one. This is called the Koch method.


The letters are sent at 20 wpm to reinforce they are one sound.  Code is 
sent slower by expanding the space between letters.  This is called 
Farnsworth method.


Here's a free trainer program  http://www.g4fon.net/

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com

On 10/31/2017 2:26 PM, rkr...@johngalt.biz wrote:


On 10/31/2017 2:02 PM, engineercm wrote:

Thank you so much for articulating the magic about CW.


As a teen I tried to learn Morse Code and never was able to get very 
far.  With Morse as a condition for getting a license, I never thought 
about getting a Ham License although I was very heavy into electronics 
and got my First Class Radiotelephone License.  (To show my age, the 
testing only had one transistor question; all the rest were tubes.)


When I discovered that Morse Code had been removed as a requirement 
(2014 or so) I began studying for my tests and made Extra within a few 
months.


I have  K3S that I am about to put on the air, on SSB to begin because 
that is what I currently understand.


I have had CW recommended, but am unwilling to repeat the head banging 
experience I went through 50+ years ago.


Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are 
gung-ho on CW is; how did you begin the learning process?  Is there some 
secret that I missed?


73

Ray
KK4WPB



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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Matt NQ6N]

I'm comparatively young (41) but I appreciate the musings about CW.  I
still remember the first CW QSO I observed at a demonstration at a Red
Cross building in Michigan when I was 11 years old.  I'd had a pair of
plastic FM walkie talkies as a young child that had the dots and dashes of
Morse embossed onto the front, but I had not expected the thrill that I
felt as an actual CW QSO was made before my eyes. I was licensed a few
months later.

Another memorable CW QSO for me was the first time I sat in front of a
friend's K3.  The audio sounded so clear and beautiful that I soon ordered
my own.

I think there is something very special about the art form of CW and the
kind of craftsmanship and passion that it inspires.  Thanks to Wayne and
everyone at Elecraft, the CWOps, etc, for keeping the magic alive.

73,
Matt NQ6N

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 1:26 PM,  wrote:

>
> On 10/31/2017 2:02 PM, engineercm wrote:
>
>> Thank you so much for articulating the magic about CW.
>>
>
> As a teen I tried to learn Morse Code and never was able to get very far.
> With Morse as a condition for getting a license, I never thought about
> getting a Ham License although I was very heavy into electronics and got my
> First Class Radiotelephone License.  (To show my age, the testing only had
> one transistor question; all the rest were tubes.)
>
> When I discovered that Morse Code had been removed as a requirement (2014
> or so) I began studying for my tests and made Extra within a few months.
>
> I have  K3S that I am about to put on the air, on SSB to begin because
> that is what I currently understand.
>
> I have had CW recommended, but am unwilling to repeat the head banging
> experience I went through 50+ years ago.
>
> Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are
> gung-ho on CW is; how did you begin the learning process?  Is there some
> secret that I missed?
>
> 73
>
> Ray
> KK4WPB
>
>
> --
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> If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have
> peace.--Thomas Paine
> III%   Molon labe.
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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[rkruse]

On 10/31/2017 2:02 PM, engineercm wrote:

Thank you so much for articulating the magic about CW.


As a teen I tried to learn Morse Code and never was able to get very 
far.  With Morse as a condition for getting a license, I never thought 
about getting a Ham License although I was very heavy into electronics 
and got my First Class Radiotelephone License.  (To show my age, the 
testing only had one transistor question; all the rest were tubes.)


When I discovered that Morse Code had been removed as a requirement 
(2014 or so) I began studying for my tests and made Extra within a few 
months.


I have  K3S that I am about to put on the air, on SSB to begin because 
that is what I currently understand.


I have had CW recommended, but am unwilling to repeat the head banging 
experience I went through 50+ years ago.


Now that I've given the history, my question to those of you who are 
gung-ho on CW is; how did you begin the learning process?  Is there some 
secret that I missed?


73

Ray
KK4WPB


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[Elecraft] [K2] Frequency Calibration using WWV Audio Tones

[Steve Kavanagh via Elecraft]

I was wondering if anyone had tried doing the reference oscillator frequency 
calibration for a K2 without the rather troublesome step of accurate 
zero-beating by feeding the 500/600 Hz audio tones from WWV/WWVH to a computer 
sound card or smart phone spectrum analyzer, or similar program?  It's pretty 
easy to read these audio frequencies out to a precision of 1 Hz or so using 
Spectran or Spectrogram, for example. 

Right now, I'm seeing both WWV and WWVH tones (at the same time!) on my 
computer screen (within a few Hz of the correct audio frequencies), with the K2 
tuned to 15000.24 kHz, so it really ought to be re-calibrated.

Are there any issues with this option, before I start into the whole process? 

73,
Steve VE3SMA
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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[engineercm]

Wayne,

Thank you so much for articulating the magic about CW.  I think we're of
similar age but I haven't been at for 45 years--just the last 12 or so. 
Some of my ham friends don't understand, and I haven't been able to
describe, why I prefer CW over other modes.  Manipulating the key to send
meaningful messages and learning to copy in my head are all skills I'm
continuing to build.  Your K1, K2, and K3 rigs--I have them all--are such a
joy to use on CW, and two of them I built.  Hearing my first call in CW on
the first CW contact was a joy I'll never forget.

The digital modes interest me only because of the difficulty (for me) in
integrating computer, radio, software, and antenna.  Pulling signals out of
the noise when they can't even be seen in the P3 is something I want to
conquer.  Not sure CW/digital is an either/or but a both/and.  Ham radio as
so many facets it's a shame to cast dispersions, as some do, on use of a
particular mode.

I guess the only thrill I'm missing after 160 countries on my handcrafted K2
using CW is putting you in my log.  Maybe someday...



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[Elecraft] FS: KIO3A; KSYN3; K3STFNR; KFL3A-6K

[Mike Cizek W0VTT]

Greetings,

I have the following K3 parts for sale.  All were installed in K3 #2786 when
I built it in March 2009 and removed as I upgraded.

KIO3A - main board is rev A; audio board is rev XD; digi board is rev B.
Removed in May 2017.  (Note - the two 1 1/4" standoffs are NOT included -
Elecraft part # E700119; WWGrainger part # 6RE14, $0.70 for ten of them.)
Price $150 shipped USPS Priority Mail in the US.  Overseas shipping at
buyer's expense.

KFL3A-6K AM filter.  Removed in April 2015.  $75 shipped USPS Priority Mail
in the US.  Overseas shipping at buyer's expense.

TWO KSYN3 synthesizer boards, rev A.  Removed in April 2015.
TWO K3STFNR shield stiffener kits for the synthesizers; never installed.
$150 for all four or offers.

Paypal to mgcizek at gmail dot com or Postal money order.  Thank you.

-- 
73,
Mike Cizek WØVTT

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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Jim Sr Sturges]

Wayne,

Thanks for helping all us GOF’s remember why, while using such poetic
language.

73,

Jim N3SZ
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:01 AM Bill  wrote:

> CW has personality - therefore CW QSOs have personality. Digital not so
> much - press F3, F6, then to say 73s etc. press F9. Not much of a QSO to
> me.
>
> Whether SSB, CW, RTTY, or whatever - it is all about rag chew to me. I
> cannot get excited about coming into the shack in the morning and
> looking at the computer screen to see who the computer QSOd with over
> night.
>
> I miss the hours long RTTY gab fests on 40 meters many years ago. Sure
> we had our tapes, but we would keyboard all afternoon sometimes. Just
> cannot find that now. The art of gabbing has gone the way of the Tweet.
>
> Just my take - that is what makes Ham radio so great. So many facets to
> keep us active.
>
> Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[Bill]

CW has personality - therefore CW QSOs have personality. Digital not so 
much - press F3, F6, then to say 73s etc. press F9. Not much of a QSO to 
me.


Whether SSB, CW, RTTY, or whatever - it is all about rag chew to me. I 
cannot get excited about coming into the shack in the morning and 
looking at the computer screen to see who the computer QSOd with over 
night.


I miss the hours long RTTY gab fests on 40 meters many years ago. Sure 
we had our tapes, but we would keyboard all afternoon sometimes. Just 
cannot find that now. The art of gabbing has gone the way of the Tweet.


Just my take - that is what makes Ham radio so great. So many facets to 
keep us active.


Bill W2BLC

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Re: [Elecraft] On CW

[EUGENE GABRY]

Great read and very well said, Wayne :) You brought back a memory of my 
sophomore year in high school back in the late 60's, still about 8 years away 
from getting my ham ticket. I was one of those "nerds" who was taking an 
electronics shop class. Our instructor was a ham operator. Aside from teaching 
us theory and circuit building projects, he taught us morse code. While other 
kids were learning Spanish and French, I and a handful of other nerds were 
learning this other"subversive" language that could be tapped out on our desk 
tops with a pencil during class. A few of us drove one English teacher crazy 
with our "code tapping"! Oh, eventually she got wise to what was going on. On 
test or quiz days, any one of us caught tapping our pencils on the desk, 
automatically failed!


Thanks for the story :)


73 Gene

N9TF

> On October 30, 2017 at 9:37 PM Wayne Burdick wrote:
> .
> Going even further down the techno food chain, you can “send” CW by 
> whistling, flashing a lamp, tapping on someone’s leg under a table in civics 
> class, or pounding a wrench on the inverted hull of an upside-down U.S. war 
> vessel, as happened at Pearl Harbor.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] On CW

[Don Whitty]

Wayne,

Long time listener, first time caller...

Your words describing your journey and your passion have pulled me into the
iPad with this mornings’ coffee...  Why?   Well, to begin with, we are of
approximately the same vintage, and had a similar starting experience to
this journey and passion..  my start at 13 was a 6AG7 / 6L6 with a single
FT243 (7008 kHz)  that I cobbled together in the cellar.

With a 300 ohm tv twin lead folded dipole nailed to the eve of our house at
the dizzy height of 14 feet, I made hundreds of contacts on  40 cw.  Damn,
it was fun...   so fun in fact, that I decided to get my license.   Yes,
you read it correct, and this is my public coming out of pirating when I
was 13, 42 years ago.   My sincere apologies to all those down the eastern
seaboard who didn’t get their C31BL card.   I picked Andorra cause it
seemed feasible where I was in the far north east of North America and
because it generated pileups with my pipsqueak signal

Other than this passion, our paths diverged, and I still enjoy a career of
bringing innovation and learning technologies to large and small companies
around the world

CW is, and always has been a huge passion, and though I’m certainly no
stranger to a microphone, your description of this club we belong to and
it’s unique window to it’s unique (and familiar to us) world, resonated.

I have other passions and interests, and in each of them there always seems
to be a writer that strikes a chord with me...   in cars and motorcycles,
it’s Peter Egan, in aviation it’s Lane Wallace or Richard Collins...

Your writing riveted me to the iPad and it felt like I was reading Ade
Weiss or Bob Locher, my two favorite amateur radio writers.   That’s pretty
good company to keep Wayne!

Please keep the passion strong, the innovation coming and please, please
continue to use the pen (and paddles) to share the gut felt visceral
excitement that cw and amateur radio are.

Thanks for making my morning.

Don Whitty
VE9XX

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 1:17 AM Martin Kratoska mar...@ok1rr.com
[Elecraft_K3]  wrote:

>
>
> words that should be carved into stone
>
> 73,
> Martin, OK1RR
>
> Dne 31.10.2017 v 03:37 Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com [Elecraft_K3]
> napsal(a):
>
>
> > I find that CW has many practical and engaging aspects that I just don’t
> get with computer-mediated modes like FT8. You’d think I’d be burned out on
> CW by now, over 45 years since I was first licensed, but no, I’m still
> doin’ it :)
> >
> > Yes, FT8 (etc.) is a no-brainer when, despite poor conditions, your goal
> is to log as many contacts as possible with as many states or countries as
> possible. It’s so streamlined and efficient that the whole process is
> readily automated. (If you haven’t read enough opinions on that, see "The
> mother of all FT8 threads” on QRZ.com, for example.)
> >
> > But back to CW. Here’s why it works for me. YMMV.
> >
> > CW feels personal and visceral, like driving a sports car rather than
> taking a cab. As with a sports car, there are risks. You can get clobbered
> by larger vehicles (QRM). Witness road range (“UP 2!”). Fall into a pothole
> (QSB). Be forced to drive through rain or snow (QRN).
> >
> > With CW, like other forms of human conversation, you can affect your own
> style. Make mistakes. Joke about it.
> >
> > CW is a skill that bonds operators together across generations and
> nations. A language, more like pidgin than anything else, with
> abbreviations and historical constructs and imperialist oddities. A curious
> club anyone can join. (At age 60 and able to copy 50 WPM on a good day, I
> may qualify as a Nerd Mason of some modest order, worthless in any other
> domain but of value in a contest.)
> >
> > With very simple equipment that anyone can build, such as a high-power
> single-transistor oscillator, you can transmit a CW signal. I had very
> little experience with electronics when I was 14 and built an oscillator
> that put out maybe 100 mW. Just twisted the leads of all those parts
> together and keyed the collector supply--a 9-volt battery. With this simple
> circuit on my desk, coupled to one guy wire of our TV antenna mast, I
> worked a station 150 miles away and was instantly hooked on building
> things. And on QRP. I’m sure the signal was key-clicky and had lots of
> harmonics. I’ve spent a lifetime making such things work better, but this
> is where it started.
> >
> > Going even further down the techno food chain, you can “send” CW by
> whistling, flashing a lamp, tapping on someone’s leg under a table in
> civics class, or pounding a wrench on the inverted hull of an upside-down
> U.S. war vessel, as happened at Pearl Harbor. Last Saturday at an
> engineering club my son belongs to, a 9-year-old demonstrated an Arduino
> Uno flashing HELLO WORLD in Morse on an LED. The other kids were impressed,
> including my son, who promptly wrote a version that sends three independent
> Morse streams on three LEDs. A 

Re: [Elecraft] Request of K1 Field Testers

[Micha, DF4WX]

Hi,

I checked my records of #00015, the first K1 on the air in Europe.
Unfortunately it seems I lost the field test documentation - we
communicated by email and I do not have backups.

I would also be happy to get the files to complete my documentation.

Best regards
Micha, DF4WX


Am 31.10.2017 um 00:55 schrieb Don Wilhelm:
> Hello,
>
> I was not a member of the K1 Field Test group, but I now have a K1 in
> the Field Test serial number range here for repair.
>
> Is there anyone who can recall the changes made during the K1 Field
> Test or better yet, scan (or photograph) the RF board and marked up
> schematics that show the result of the Field Test changes - email them
> to me if you have that information.
>
> This particular K1 has a lot of what appears to be "add on"
> components. I am not certain if those are the result of the Field Test
> changes or the result of further experiments by the prior owner.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
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