Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

The Mac Utilities currently on the Elecraft web site are both signed and 
Notarized. They are ready to go with Catalina.
No need to right-click open any longer. A Big thank-you to the program’s 
author, W4SMT for taking care of this.

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka  wrote:
> 
> I think it's unsigned and you need to right click and open it (or is it
> command-click?) and then select "open" and click some dialog boxes.
> 
> At least that's how it worked for me right now.
> 
> On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Grant Youngman wrote:
> 
>> K3 Utility also ?.
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
>>> I just put up Catalina 10.15.4.  KX3 and PX3 Utility (latest versions) run 
>>> just fine.
>>> Grant NQ5T
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] SOLVED!: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

Way to go, Don! Glad you got it going.

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
> 
> 
> The short version: usb-to-serial adapter driver snafu
> 
> The long version: Way back when I bought my K3, Elecraft was having problems 
> with the KUSB. I bought a Keyspan adapter instead and installed the Keyspan 
> driver. Over the years, I updated the driver when I updated the macOS. The 
> Keyspan stopped working with macOS Catalina, and Keyspan won't update the 
> driver to be compatible with Catalina. I just bought a new KUSB and tried to 
> install the FTDI VCP driver. For whatever reason, yesterday the driver 
> installer wouldn't work. So I installed the FTDI D2XX driver. The K3 Utility 
> still wouldn't work. Then came a chain of emails via the reflector. I 
> uninstalled the D2XX driver, hoping the macOS Catalina native driver would 
> take over. Nope. Just for chuckles, I tried again to install the VCP driver. 
> Today the installer worked. After a reboot, the K3 Utility is working just 
> fine. Whether it was the Keyspan driver or the D2XX driver or macOS Catalina 
> causing the problem, that's beyond my expertise and interest. Thanks to all 
> of you for your help. I really do appreciate it.
> 
> 73 Don NA6Z
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:37 PM Jack Brindle  > wrote:
> Interesting. You should be seeing the KPA500 serial port in the K3 Utility 
> list of serial ports. That tells me that the program is not picking them up 
> from the system.
> 
> David, what do you think?
> 
> With Don at dinner, back to CQ WPX…
> 
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
> 
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Don Putnick > > wrote:
>> 
>> Nope. The K3 and KPA500 are my only serial devices. XYL priority interrupt - 
>> dinner. Thanks, guys. I'll delete the D2XX drivers tomorrow and report back 
>> in. BTW, I'm no longer freaked out. If I need to do any K3 utility work, I 
>> now have the Win version on the other partition, and a Sierra MPB with the 
>> Mac version, both operational. This is not a "this should not be happening" 
>> project.
>> 73 Don NA6Z
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:29 PM Jack Brindle > > wrote:
>> I believe that is probably a good idea. In Catalina, drivers (known as 
>> KEXTs) now need a reboot to take effect. If you did reboot your machine, 
>> then the D2XX drivers are now in place. I have never seen the D2XX drivers 
>> interfere with the regular FTDI drivers, but it is possible.  Note that 
>> uninstalling them will require another reboot.
>> 
>> Do you have anything else with an FTDI serial interface that you can plug in 
>> and see what happens? 
>> 
>> 73!
>> Jack, W6FB
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Don Putnick >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> David, yes, deleting the preferences brought back the window. I'm wondering 
>>> if I should uninstall the D2XX driver and just use what Catalina provides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:21 PM David Fleming >> > wrote:
>>> Did deleting the preferences bring the window 
>>> back? I hope installing the D2xx driver didn’t create any conflicts? It 
>>> hopefully shouldn’t.
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>>> 
>>> On Friday, March 27, 2020, 8:11 PM, Jack Brindle >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> David;
>>> 
>>> Thanks for jumping in. Don, David is the author.
>>> 
>>> I had him delete the preferences, now he is not seeing the USB port. I 
>>> suspect the first run, with bad prefs may have not released the serial 
>>> port, so I had him either log out/in or reboot.
>>> Waiting for Don’s response now.
>>> 
>>> Always great to hear from you!
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Jack, W6FB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:03 PM, David Fleming via Elecraft 
>>> > mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Hi Don,
>>> > Are you seeing the K3 Utility menu at the top of the screen when you 
>>> > start the app? If so, click Window -> Set To Default Position and see if 
>>> > that helps. If not, we’ll have to try something else.
>>> > David, W4SMT
>>> > 
>>> > On Friday, March 27, 2020, 7:05 PM, Don Putnick >> > > wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > 
>>> > I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>>> > data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>>> > displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>>> > select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click 
>>> > on
>>> > the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so 
>>> > I
>>> > don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
>>> > works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>>> > 
>>> > 73 Don NA6Z
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio

[Brian Hunt]

Are you using external speakers? If so make sure they aren't plugged into the 
headphone rear jack instead. Those pesky jacks are right next to each other. 
Been there

73,
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[Elecraft] SOLVED!: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Don Putnick]

The short version: usb-to-serial adapter driver snafu

The long version: Way back when I bought my K3, Elecraft was having
problems with the KUSB. I bought a Keyspan adapter instead and installed
the Keyspan driver. Over the years, I updated the driver when I updated the
macOS. The Keyspan stopped working with macOS Catalina, and Keyspan won't
update the driver to be compatible with Catalina. I just bought a new KUSB
and tried to install the FTDI VCP driver. For whatever reason, yesterday
the driver installer wouldn't work. So I installed the FTDI D2XX driver.
The K3 Utility still wouldn't work. Then came a chain of emails via the
reflector. I uninstalled the D2XX driver, hoping the macOS Catalina native
driver would take over. Nope. Just for chuckles, I tried again to install
the VCP driver. Today the installer worked. After a reboot, the K3 Utility
is working just fine. Whether it was the Keyspan driver or the D2XX driver
or macOS Catalina causing the problem, that's beyond my expertise and
interest. Thanks to all of you for your help. I really do appreciate it.

73 Don NA6Z

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:37 PM Jack Brindle  wrote:

> Interesting. You should be seeing the KPA500 serial port in the K3 Utility
> list of serial ports. That tells me that the program is not picking them up
> from the system.
>
> David, what do you think?
>
> With Don at dinner, back to CQ WPX…
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
>
> Nope. The K3 and KPA500 are my only serial devices. XYL priority interrupt
> - dinner. Thanks, guys. I'll delete the D2XX drivers tomorrow and report
> back in. BTW, I'm no longer freaked out. If I need to do any K3 utility
> work, I now have the Win version on the other partition, and a Sierra MPB
> with the Mac version, both operational. This is not a "this should not be
> happening" project.
> 73 Don NA6Z
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:29 PM Jack Brindle  wrote:
>
>> I believe that is probably a good idea. In Catalina, drivers (known as
>> KEXTs) now need a reboot to take effect. If you did reboot your machine,
>> then the D2XX drivers are now in place. I have never seen the D2XX drivers
>> interfere with the regular FTDI drivers, but it is possible.  Note that
>> uninstalling them will require another reboot.
>>
>> Do you have anything else with an FTDI serial interface that you can plug
>> in and see what happens?
>>
>> 73!
>> Jack, W6FB
>>
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
>>
>> David, yes, deleting the preferences brought back the window. I'm
>> wondering if I should uninstall the D2XX driver and just use what Catalina
>> provides.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:21 PM David Fleming  wrote:
>>
>>> Did deleting the preferences bring the window
>>> back? I hope installing the D2xx driver didn’t create any conflicts? It
>>> hopefully shouldn’t.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 27, 2020, 8:11 PM, Jack Brindle 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> David;
>>>
>>> Thanks for jumping in. Don, David is the author.
>>>
>>> I had him delete the preferences, now he is not seeing the USB port. I
>>> suspect the first run, with bad prefs may have not released the serial
>>> port, so I had him either log out/in or reboot.
>>> Waiting for Don’s response now.
>>>
>>> Always great to hear from you!
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Jack, W6FB
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:03 PM, David Fleming via Elecraft <
>>> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Don,
>>> > Are you seeing the K3 Utility menu at the top of the screen when you
>>> start the app? If so, click Window -> Set To Default Position and see if
>>> that helps. If not, we’ll have to try something else.
>>> > David, W4SMT
>>> >
>>> > On Friday, March 27, 2020, 7:05 PM, Don Putnick 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>>> > data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>>> > displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>>> > select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I
>>> click on
>>> > the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine,
>>> so I
>>> > don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3
>>> Utility
>>> > works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>>> >
>>> > 73 Don NA6Z
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

I think it's unsigned and you need to right click and open it (or is it
command-click?) and then select "open" and click some dialog boxes.

At least that's how it worked for me right now.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Grant Youngman wrote:


K3 Utility also ?.


On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:

I just put up Catalina 10.15.4.  KX3 and PX3 Utility (latest versions) run just 
fine.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Grant Youngman]

K3 Utility also ….

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> I just put up Catalina 10.15.4.  KX3 and PX3 Utility (latest versions) run 
> just fine.
> 
> Grant NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Grant Youngman]

I just put up Catalina 10.15.4.  KX3 and PX3 Utility (latest versions) run just 
fine.

Grant NQ5T

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> Never mind.  I just got notification for 10.15.4.  
> 
> I’ll put it up tonight, and see if the same thing happens.
> 
> Grant NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Grant Youngman]

Never mind.  I just got notification for 10.15.4.  

I’ll put it up tonight, and see if the same thing happens.

Grant NQ5T

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> AFIK 10.15.3 is the latest GA version of Catalina.  Are you using a 
> beta/developer version?
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm using macOS Catalina version 10.15.4 (not .3)
>> I'm using the latest version of the K3 Utility downloaded yesterday. Here's
>> the system info:
>> 
>> *Elecraft K3 Utility:*
>> 
>> 
>> Version: 1.19.9.6
>> 
>> Obtained from: Identified Developer
>> 
>> Last Modified: 9/6/19, 2:15 PM
>> 
>> Signed by: Developer ID Application: David Fleming (N35N9C572M),
>> Developer ID Certification Authority, Apple Root CA
>> 
>> Location: /Applications/Elecraft K3 Utility.app
>> 
>> Kind: 64-bit
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

10.15.4 released on Tuesday. It should be available in your System Preferences 
/ Software Update panel.

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> AFIK 10.15.3 is the latest GA version of Catalina.  Are you using a 
> beta/developer version?
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm using macOS Catalina version 10.15.4 (not .3)
>> I'm using the latest version of the K3 Utility downloaded yesterday. Here's
>> the system info:
>> 
>> *Elecraft K3 Utility:*
>> 
>> 
>> Version: 1.19.9.6
>> 
>> Obtained from: Identified Developer
>> 
>> Last Modified: 9/6/19, 2:15 PM
>> 
>> Signed by: Developer ID Application: David Fleming (N35N9C572M),
>> Developer ID Certification Authority, Apple Root CA
>> 
>> Location: /Applications/Elecraft K3 Utility.app
>> 
>> Kind: 64-bit
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Grant Youngman]

AFIK 10.15.3 is the latest GA version of Catalina.  Are you using a 
beta/developer version?

Grant NQ5T


> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
> 
> I'm using macOS Catalina version 10.15.4 (not .3)
> I'm using the latest version of the K3 Utility downloaded yesterday. Here's
> the system info:
> 
> *Elecraft K3 Utility:*
> 
> 
>  Version: 1.19.9.6
> 
>  Obtained from: Identified Developer
> 
>  Last Modified: 9/6/19, 2:15 PM
> 
>  Signed by: Developer ID Application: David Fleming (N35N9C572M),
> Developer ID Certification Authority, Apple Root CA
> 
>  Location: /Applications/Elecraft K3 Utility.app
> 
>  Kind: 64-bit
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

That shouldn’t have been needed. The drivers have been built into the macOS 
since 10.9.

David, suggestions?

73,
Jack, W6FB


> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
> 
> That didn't work. BTW when I got the KUSB yesterday I went to the FTDI
> website to download the drivers. The VCP installer wasn't able to mount, so
> I loaded the D2XX drivers. They do work with the KPA500 Utility.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:04 PM David Fleming  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Don,
>> 
>> Are you seeing the K3 Utility menu at the top of the screen when you start
>> the app? If so, click Window -> Set To Default Position and see if that
>> helps. If not, we’ll have to try something else.
>> 
>> David, W4SMT
>> 
>> On Friday, March 27, 2020, 7:05 PM, Don Putnick 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
>> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
>> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
>> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>> 
>> 73 Don NA6Z
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Don Putnick]

That didn't work. BTW when I got the KUSB yesterday I went to the FTDI
website to download the drivers. The VCP installer wasn't able to mount, so
I loaded the D2XX drivers. They do work with the KPA500 Utility.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:04 PM David Fleming  wrote:

> Hi Don,
>
> Are you seeing the K3 Utility menu at the top of the screen when you start
> the app? If so, click Window -> Set To Default Position and see if that
> helps. If not, we’ll have to try something else.
>
> David, W4SMT
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2020, 7:05 PM, Don Putnick 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>
> 73 Don NA6Z
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[David Fleming via Elecraft]

Hi Don,
Are you seeing the K3 Utility menu at the top of the screen when you start the 
app? If so, click Window -> Set To Default Position and see if that helps. If 
not, we’ll have to try something else.
David, W4SMT

On Friday, March 27, 2020, 7:05 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:


Hi all,

I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?

73 Don NA6Z




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

Guys;

32 bit apps won’t even launch on Catalina. I suspect that the application’s 
preferences are corrupt, and have advised him how to find and delete them.

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Mar 27, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> The latest versions posted on the website all work fine under Catalina 
> 10.15.3.  If you still have 32 bit apps installed, just upgrade them.
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Walter Underwood  wrote:
>> 
>> Check whether it is a 32 bit app. I just checked my apps and my KXPA and PX3 
>> apps are 32 bit. Catalina requires 64 bit apps.
>> 
>> This explains how to check.
>> 
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208436
>> 
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>>> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>>> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>>> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
>>> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
>>> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
>>> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>>> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Don Putnick]

I'm using macOS Catalina version 10.15.4 (not .3)
I'm using the latest version of the K3 Utility downloaded yesterday. Here's
the system info:

*Elecraft K3 Utility:*


  Version: 1.19.9.6

  Obtained from: Identified Developer

  Last Modified: 9/6/19, 2:15 PM

  Signed by: Developer ID Application: David Fleming (N35N9C572M),
Developer ID Certification Authority, Apple Root CA

  Location: /Applications/Elecraft K3 Utility.app

  Kind: 64-bit



On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 4:04 PM Don Putnick  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
> 73 Don NA6Z
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Grant Youngman]

The latest versions posted on the website all work fine under Catalina 10.15.3. 
 If you still have 32 bit apps installed, just upgrade them.

Grant NQ5T

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Walter Underwood  wrote:
> 
> Check whether it is a 32 bit app. I just checked my apps and my KXPA and PX3 
> apps are 32 bit. Catalina requires 64 bit apps.
> 
> This explains how to check.
> 
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208436
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
>> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
>> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
>> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Walter Underwood]

Check whether it is a 32 bit app. I just checked my apps and my KXPA and PX3 
apps are 32 bit. Catalina requires 64 bit apps.

This explains how to check.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208436

wunder
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> On Mar 27, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

Don;

Which version of the K3 Utility are you using, and which version of Catalina?

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Mar 27, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Don Putnick  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
> 73 Don NA6Z
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[Elecraft] K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

[Don Putnick]

Hi all,
I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
73 Don NA6Z
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio

[David Olean]

In CONFIG,  set SPEAKER  to 1, then the next position SPKR+PH is set to 
OFF. That is how mine is set and it works just as you desire. I remember 
having similar problems. I hope I did not miss anything.


Dave K1WHS

On 3/27/2020 9:01 PM, w...@jetbroadband.com wrote:

Hello All,

  


Here's hoping someone will take pity on me. I am not getting any audio out
of my K3 when I remove the headphones from the front panel. The
CONFIG:SPRK+PH is set to "NO". When I set the parameter to "YES" and I have
the headphones plugged in then I get audio from both the headphones and the
speaker. When I unplugged the headphones, the speakers still have audio. I
use to have it set up that if the phones are plugged in, no speaker audio
and then speaker audio when the phones are removed, but things happen and I
do not know what it was. I tried loading a previous configuration but still
no joy.

  


Is there help out there? I have been fooling with this all afternoon and now
I am just at my wits end.

  


Best regards,

  


Jerry, W1IE

  


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio

[Nr4c]

Check the setting for number of speakers. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:03 PM, w...@jetbroadband.com wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 
> 
> Here's hoping someone will take pity on me. I am not getting any audio out
> of my K3 when I remove the headphones from the front panel. The
> CONFIG:SPRK+PH is set to "NO". When I set the parameter to "YES" and I have
> the headphones plugged in then I get audio from both the headphones and the
> speaker. When I unplugged the headphones, the speakers still have audio. I
> use to have it set up that if the phones are plugged in, no speaker audio
> and then speaker audio when the phones are removed, but things happen and I
> do not know what it was. I tried loading a previous configuration but still
> no joy.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there help out there? I have been fooling with this all afternoon and now
> I am just at my wits end.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry, W1IE
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] K3 Audio

[w1ie]

Hello All,

 

Here's hoping someone will take pity on me. I am not getting any audio out
of my K3 when I remove the headphones from the front panel. The
CONFIG:SPRK+PH is set to "NO". When I set the parameter to "YES" and I have
the headphones plugged in then I get audio from both the headphones and the
speaker. When I unplugged the headphones, the speakers still have audio. I
use to have it set up that if the phones are plugged in, no speaker audio
and then speaker audio when the phones are removed, but things happen and I
do not know what it was. I tried loading a previous configuration but still
no joy.

 

Is there help out there? I have been fooling with this all afternoon and now
I am just at my wits end.

 

Best regards,

 

Jerry, W1IE

 

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Re: [Elecraft] XG8 Firmware Update

[K8TE]

Actually, an XG8 is short for two XG3's placed back-to-back in push-pull.

As you can tell, a lot of us are sheltered in place without radios--what a
shame!

In my case, I'm staring at many in an EOC (Emergency Operations Center).

Be safe.   Stay healthy!  73, Bill, K8TE



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Re: [Elecraft] Usb-lsb audio tone - Mike iw3smr-Italy

[Don Wilhelm]

Mike,

How much is "slightly"?  If it is only a few Hz, you can change the 
offset for the filter a few Hz above and below that printed on the 
filter label.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/25/2020 11:10 PM, mic b wrote:

Hi, I'm an OM from Udine, northern Italy.  I own a K3 and I noticed that
changing the mode from Usb to Lsb the audio tone varies slightly.  It's
normal?  The five-pole filter has the center frequency set correctly as per
the label.  Is it possible to vary the carrier frequency of the sidebands?

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[Elecraft] KX3 button malfunction

[Pentti A J Pajunen]

Hi'ya all! I have A minor problem with my KX3. The "rate/kHz/lock button 
is inoperative. The phenomenon came up after loading the latest 
software. Could there be A bug, or do I have  missed something. Thanks 
for any advice in forehand.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Safe Operating PA Temperature

[Steve Anness]

It does sound like the KX2/KX3 are pretty tough little radios.  I had heard
of some heatsink issues in earlier KX3s, not sure if that is true or not.
It sounds like 61C is fine.  For the record the time that it got that hot
running 10 watts was SSB and I was doing a continual (recorded) CQ. I only
run digital modes at 5 watts or less.  Again I appreciate all the feedback,
I have KX2 number 617, bought it in June 2016 but it sadly it gets
neglected at times, doing a bit more FT8/FT4 though now, especially since i
am stuck at my apartment.

73 de KJ5T

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:05 AM Mooneer Salem  wrote:

> FWIW, my KX3 handles 15 watts digital with no issues as far as I can tell.
> I did the temperature compensation and have a third party heatsink, though.
> I haven't looked too much at third party heatsinks for the KX2 but I
> imagine I'd probably want to follow that 50% advice even with one installed
> simply due to its physical size.
>
> -Mooneer K6AQ
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 10:47 PM Joan via Elecraft  >
> wrote:
>
> > The KX2 will automatically fold back its power (responding to
> temperature)
> > to prevent thermal runaway or damage to its finals
> >
> > That being said, it is routinely recommended that when running any 100%
> > duty cycle mode (e.g. typical digital text modes or FM Phone) one reduces
> > RF output to 50% of rated output
> >
> > 73 de KX2CW
> > Joan
> >
> > Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
> > Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
> >
> > > On Mar 26, 2020, at 18:09, Steve Anness  wrote:
> > >
> > > This question was posed last October by another on the reflector in
> > regards
> > > to the KX3 but does not look like there was a response.  I had posed
> the
> > > question once to Elecraft support and believe my email got lost in the
> > > fray.  When I posted the question to Elecraft support it was a month
> > after
> > > I received my KX2 and I was running 10 watts with it and it had gotten
> up
> > > to 61C which is what prompted the question.
> > >
> > > I have been running FT8 at around 5 watts recently and I see it getting
> > up
> > > to 51C.
> > >
> > > At what point should I stop operating and let it cool down?  I love my
> > KX2
> > > and don't want to damage it.  I do know that these are used in fields
> by
> > > many so perhaps I am just being paranoid.
> > >
> > > 73 de KJ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] A broken K3

[rocketnj]

Great news Dave! 
Your brother will be happy to get back on the air.

Tech support from Elecraft and the users on this group is excellent. Lots of 
knowledge that they are willing to share.

Dave wo2x

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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:17 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] A broken K3

Hello again

I finally sorted out the problem with my brother , K0ZK's Elecraft K3. 
It was an oldie with a serial number in the 300s and it died on him in the 
middle of a QSO. It has been dead for about six months and he is not in the 
best of health, so I figured I would try to fix it for him. Elecraft Tech 
Support came through even with all of the Virus conditions rocking the entire 
economy. Symptoms were no TX or RX, but everything seemed to be working as 
relays clicked as you changed bands, and the dial indications seemed OK. I 
traced the problem to a missing synthesizer signal to the first mixer and also 
the 2nd mixer on TX.  I tried swapping out the synthesizer, but had no luck as 
the 2nd synthesizer did not work either.  With the expert help and advice from 
Tech Support I found that my synthesizer was missing the 8 VDC on one of the 
connector pins. Checking the 8 volt rail, the resistance to ground seemed OK, 
so I removed the 8 V regulator and supplied 8 volts from an external current 
regulated power supply.  It pulled about 230 ma at 8 volts. The K3 t
 ook off and started working again with 8 volts supplied. 
I had to do another synthesizer CAL, but after doing that, the rig is good to 
go on all bands.

I was hoping that I had a new 8 volt regulator in my junque box. After an 
exhaustive search I found everything BUT and 8 volt regulator, so I will have 
to order one. I'll also get some upgrade kits from Elecraft to bring K3 #387 
into the 21st century. Gold pins are on top of the list.

Thanks for the excellent tech support help, Elecraft!

73

Dave K1WHS

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Safe Operating PA Temperature

[Mooneer Salem]

FWIW, my KX3 handles 15 watts digital with no issues as far as I can tell.
I did the temperature compensation and have a third party heatsink, though.
I haven't looked too much at third party heatsinks for the KX2 but I
imagine I'd probably want to follow that 50% advice even with one installed
simply due to its physical size.

-Mooneer K6AQ

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 10:47 PM Joan via Elecraft 
wrote:

> The KX2 will automatically fold back its power (responding to temperature)
> to prevent thermal runaway or damage to its finals
>
> That being said, it is routinely recommended that when running any 100%
> duty cycle mode (e.g. typical digital text modes or FM Phone) one reduces
> RF output to 50% of rated output
>
> 73 de KX2CW
> Joan
>
> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
>
> > On Mar 26, 2020, at 18:09, Steve Anness  wrote:
> >
> > This question was posed last October by another on the reflector in
> regards
> > to the KX3 but does not look like there was a response.  I had posed the
> > question once to Elecraft support and believe my email got lost in the
> > fray.  When I posted the question to Elecraft support it was a month
> after
> > I received my KX2 and I was running 10 watts with it and it had gotten up
> > to 61C which is what prompted the question.
> >
> > I have been running FT8 at around 5 watts recently and I see it getting
> up
> > to 51C.
> >
> > At what point should I stop operating and let it cool down?  I love my
> KX2
> > and don't want to damage it.  I do know that these are used in fields by
> > many so perhaps I am just being paranoid.
> >
> > 73 de KJ5T
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Safe Operating PA Temperature

[Walter Underwood]

KX2 manual, page 27: "5.0 watts or lower is recommended in all data modes. The 
KX2 will reduce power, if necessary, to maintain a safe operating temperature." 

wunder
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> On Mar 26, 2020, at 10:45 PM, Joan via Elecraft  
> wrote:
> 
> The KX2 will automatically fold back its power (responding to temperature) to 
> prevent thermal runaway or damage to its finals
> 
> That being said, it is routinely recommended that when running any 100% duty 
> cycle mode (e.g. typical digital text modes or FM Phone) one reduces RF 
> output to 50% of rated output
> 
> 73 de KX2CW
> Joan
> 
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>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 18:09, Steve Anness  wrote:
>> 
>> This question was posed last October by another on the reflector in regards
>> to the KX3 but does not look like there was a response.  I had posed the
>> question once to Elecraft support and believe my email got lost in the
>> fray.  When I posted the question to Elecraft support it was a month after
>> I received my KX2 and I was running 10 watts with it and it had gotten up
>> to 61C which is what prompted the question.
>> 
>> I have been running FT8 at around 5 watts recently and I see it getting up
>> to 51C.
>> 
>> At what point should I stop operating and let it cool down?  I love my KX2
>> and don't want to damage it.  I do know that these are used in fields by
>> many so perhaps I am just being paranoid.
>> 
>> 73 de KJ5T
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Safe Operating PA Temperature

[Matt Maguire]

The other thing to watch is the frequency stability. When I used to
run digital modes on the KX3, the radio would drift a bit as it heated
up. I got one of the XG50 reference oscillators, and went through a
temperature compensation profiling procedure, and after that it worked
very well. I guess you already know with Elecraft radios that setting
the levels works differently to many other commercial radios -- often
you'll see procedures where you use the audio input drive to control
the transmitted power and saying to avoid ALC, but those procedures
and not appropriate for Elecraft -- there you need to set the input
level (on KX3  think it was something like 4 bars on the "ALC" meter)
then control the output power using the power output knob. Someone
else on this list probably has more current information than I which
pertains to the KX2.

73, Matt VK2RQ

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 13:54, Steve Anness  wrote:
>
> Thank you for the feedback.  I have never seen the radio get that warm
> during my operating.  Someone did point out about the third party heatsinks
> available so I may eventually purchase one.  I primarily am doing very high
> duty cycle modes such as RTTY and the JT modes with my KX2 so I want to
> make sure that I am taking good care of it.
>
> 73 de KJ5T
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 9:24 PM Nr4c  wrote:
>
> > I believe the radio might shut down somewhere above 80 C.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 26, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Steve Anness  wrote:
> > >
> > > This question was posed last October by another on the reflector in
> > regards
> > > to the KX3 but does not look like there was a response.  I had posed the
> > > question once to Elecraft support and believe my email got lost in the
> > > fray.  When I posted the question to Elecraft support it was a month
> > after
> > > I received my KX2 and I was running 10 watts with it and it had gotten up
> > > to 61C which is what prompted the question.
> > >
> > > I have been running FT8 at around 5 watts recently and I see it getting
> > up
> > > to 51C.
> > >
> > > At what point should I stop operating and let it cool down?  I love my
> > KX2
> > > and don't want to damage it.  I do know that these are used in fields by
> > > many so perhaps I am just being paranoid.
> > >
> > > 73 de KJ5T
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