Re: [Elecraft] OT: The day I found out I was going to be an engineer

2023-09-22 Thread David Thompson via Elecraft

On 9/17/2023 6:16 AM, Larry (K8UT) wrote:

One of my favorite Dilbert videos - when mom discovers her son has "the 
knack"."


I love that clip! It makes me laugh every time. (Yes, I am an engineer...)

-=d

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David Thompson, AG7TX

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Re: [Elecraft] KI03B equipped K3 with N1MM and MMTTY

2023-09-22 Thread Rick NK7I

Guessing, but the audio setting would be found in MMTTY not N1MM.

Connect CODEC there and you should be good for AFSK.

GL,
Rick nk7i


On 9/22/2023 4:53 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
For the first time in maybe 6 years I thought I'd spend a little time 
in the CQWW RTTY  contest this weekend.  I selected the contest, and 
to my surprise N1MM and MMTY came up and I was receiving RTTY.


Alas, when I tried to transmit in AFSK, it appears that no audio is 
making it to the K-3.  I think that this is probably because since the 
last time I did RTTY, I installed a KIO3B in my K-3, I'm guessing that 
MM wants to see the AFSK audio passed through the KIO3B's sound card, 
but I don't know what has to be done to get this to happen.  Anyone 
out there with advice?  I have gone into the N1MM manual but failed to 
find anything.



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[Elecraft] KI03B equipped K3 with N1MM and MMTTY

2023-09-22 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
For the first time in maybe 6 years I thought I'd spend a little time in 
the CQWW RTTY  contest this weekend.  I selected the contest, and to my 
surprise N1MM and MMTY came up and I was receiving RTTY.


Alas, when I tried to transmit in AFSK, it appears that no audio is 
making it to the K-3.  I think that this is probably because since the 
last time I did RTTY, I installed a KIO3B in my K-3,  I'm guessing that 
MM wants to see the AFSK audio passed through the KIO3B's sound card, 
but I don't know what has to be done to get this to happen.  Anyone out 
there with advice?  I have gone into the N1MM manual but failed to find 
anything.


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73, Pete N4ZR
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft AT1 Attenuator

2023-09-22 Thread Steve Gray
Thanks to John, Joe and Mike for the feedback. Mike hit it on the head when he 
mentioned the slide switches. It was oxidisation and some vigorous switch 
gymnastics cured it. I now have readings that complement John's matrix. I know 
right well I should have guessed this, but I knee-jerked as usual. Cheers to 
all,

Steve, G4VRR.
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Re: [Elecraft] AT1 Attenuator

2023-09-22 Thread John Oppenheimer
2-Port VNWA measurements at 7MHz

Switch, VSWR, dB
0 1.01 0.07
1 1.03 1.06
1 1.03 1.06
3 1.02 3.08
6 1.03 6.31
10 1.02 9.78
20 1.05 19.97

VSWR approaches 1.1 at 30MHz with some switch settings.

John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] AT1 Attenuator

2023-09-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



Looking at the AT1 manual, the switches and traces are certainly
not 50 Ohm transmission lines.  As such, one gets all kinds of
stray behavior.  While you do not say at what frequency or range
of frequencies you made your test, I would suspect you will see
higher SWR as one goes up in frequency and that the departure
from 50 + j0 will be higher on 144 MHz than on 1.8 MHz.

As a general matter, one may be able to "flatten" the SWR somewhat
by placing (and "tuning") shunt capacitors across the input/output
BNC connectors to compensate for the inductance of the traces and
switches.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/22/2023 10:14 AM, Steve Gray wrote:

I have purchased a second user AT1 recently, largely due to the ruinous 
TransAtlantic logistics costs, but also the ongoing absence of any support here 
in The UK.

Although purely from observation of the circuit topology it seems reasonable to 
assume that it is not a constant impedance array of resistors, I was quite 
surprised to see the high SWR readings recorded after connecting a good dummy 
load and an antenna analyser- encroaching as it does well into double figure 
readings. My received wisdom being that these devices need to look into a 50 
Ohms load to preserve accuracy.

I have checked all the resistors and they are extraordinarily accurate leading 
me to believe that it has not been cooked by the/a previous owner, and 
confirming the quality of Elecraft dedigns. I also noted that the greater the 
level of attenuation, the lower the SWR is with the lowest attenuation 
displaying the worst result, and the highest displaying a near perfect match, 
but I guess that is not surprising because it is attenuating the reflected RF 
too. What I would like is some reassurance that such elevated SWR readings are 
to be expected for a nominally 50 Ohms stepped attenuator of this nature set to 
the lower levels of attenuation.

Steve, G4VRR.
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Re: [Elecraft] AT1 Attenuator

2023-09-22 Thread Michael Carter
Hi Steve,

Each attenuator section is designed
to present a 50 ohm input impedance
when terminated in 50 ohms.  Of
course that will change as frequency
is increased and inductive effects
take greater prominence.

At what frequency(ies) did you
make your measurements?
What were the actual SWR readings
in the various attenuator section
combinations?  Is your
signal generator a 50 ohm output
impedance unit, and do you have
a known good 50 ohm termination
for the attenuator output port?

If the resistors measure within
a few percent of their nominal
values, I would suspect the
slide switches and/or solder
joints along the path.

I would also use an impedance
bridge/analyzer as a check on
your SWR meter.

73,
Mike, K8CN
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[Elecraft] AT1 Attenuator

2023-09-22 Thread Steve Gray
I have purchased a second user AT1 recently, largely due to the ruinous 
TransAtlantic logistics costs, but also the ongoing absence of any support here 
in The UK.

Although purely from observation of the circuit topology it seems reasonable to 
assume that it is not a constant impedance array of resistors, I was quite 
surprised to see the high SWR readings recorded after connecting a good dummy 
load and an antenna analyser- encroaching as it does well into double figure 
readings. My received wisdom being that these devices need to look into a 50 
Ohms load to preserve accuracy.

I have checked all the resistors and they are extraordinarily accurate leading 
me to believe that it has not been cooked by the/a previous owner, and 
confirming the quality of Elecraft dedigns. I also noted that the greater the 
level of attenuation, the lower the SWR is with the lowest attenuation 
displaying the worst result, and the highest displaying a near perfect match, 
but I guess that is not surprising because it is attenuating the reflected RF 
too. What I would like is some reassurance that such elevated SWR readings are 
to be expected for a nominally 50 Ohms stepped attenuator of this nature set to 
the lower levels of attenuation.

Steve, G4VRR.
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