Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

[David Cole]

Hi,
I have a series of three articles on RFI, located at:

http://nk7z.net/category/info/mitigation-of-rf-interference/i-have-rfi-series/

the second article down, titled "I have RFI, now what: House Cleaning"
has the some of the correct part numbers for the Fair-Rite corporation
snap on ferrites.

Best is to replace the dimmers though...

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On Sun, 2016-01-24 at 21:56 -0500, johnpierce wrote:
> I have several dimmers around my house that generate 20db of noise on the HF
> bands.  I have seen some recommendations for ferrite beads that can be used
> for filtering.  However, I cannot find that info.  Some were snap on beads.
> I am assuming that locating them in the power feed lines to the dimmer box
> would help in reducing the RFI.  What do you recommend?
> 
>  
> 
> John
> 
> AD2F 
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[Elecraft] P3 Macro question

[David Cole]

Hello group mind,

I have a P3 control question for you all...

It appears to me, that the P3 does not accept macros for itself, via the
trigger launch process which fires off macros to the K3.

Is this assumption on my part correct?

If so, is there a way to trigger the P3 to accept a macro designed for
the P3 itself, using the rear USB connector on the P3?

In essence, I want to be able to control the P3 via it's own macro set
using the USB connector in the rear of the P3 itself.  Is this possible?


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Macro question

[David Cole]

I sure hope Elecraft follows suit with the in the P3 as well then!!!
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On Sun, 2016-01-24 at 17:33 +, Cady, Fred wrote:
> That's right, Dave.  I'll bet a nickle that a P3 firmware update will allow 
> that in the future because you can do that with the PX3.
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7X
> 
> For  all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of David Cole 
> <d...@nk7z.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 10:14 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Macro question
> 
> Hello group mind,
> 
> I have a P3 control question for you all...
> 
> It appears to me, that the P3 does not accept macros for itself, via the
> trigger launch process which fires off macros to the K3.
> 
> Is this assumption on my part correct?
> 
> If so, is there a way to trigger the P3 to accept a macro designed for
> the P3 itself, using the rear USB connector on the P3?
> 
> In essence, I want to be able to control the P3 via it's own macro set
> using the USB connector in the rear of the P3 itself.  Is this possible?
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Macro question

[David Cole]

That is exactly what I am attempting to do here, Hence my question as to
why I am unable to get the P3 to take a macro via the USB port...  I
want it on the Genovation keypad, not the P3 case.
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On Sun, 2016-01-24 at 10:21 -0800, Bill Frantz wrote:
> With this facility, I would consider using a micro controller to implement 
> two functions:
> 
>   P3 for split mode: Read VFOs A and B. Set center and span so A
>   and B VFOs are on opposite sides of the display. To use, tune
>   in the DX on A and put B just above the pileup. Press the
>   button.
> 
>   P3 for band scanning: Band edge aware setup for fixed spans,
>   e.g. 50KHz, 100KHz 200KHz. Read VFO A. Set span to the fixed
>   span. Set the center so the VFO is near the center of the
>   display and the lower edge is a multiple of half the span above
>   the bottom edge of the band.
>   
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 1/24/16 at 9:14 AM, d...@nk7z.net (David Cole) wrote:
> 
> > ... is there a way to trigger the P3 to accept a macro designed for
> > the P3 itself, using the rear USB connector on the P3?
> > 
> > In essence, I want to be able to control the P3 via it's own macro set
> > using the USB connector in the rear of the P3 itself.  Is this possible?
> 
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[Elecraft] Feature Request for P3

[David Cole]

Hello Elecraft,

Would it be possible for Elecraft to add the following feature to the
P3:

Allow P3 macros to be stored and triggered via the USB keyboard port on
the rear of the P3, as is currently being implemented now for the K3
macros.

In essence, I want the P3 to let me fire a P3 macro trigger, (in
addition to a K3 macro triggers), in the same way I now fire K3 macros--
using the USB port on the rear of the P3.

Thanks!

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Re: [Elecraft] Switching to Linux

[David Cole]

One hint about your Linux Switch, if you use Google Chrome, make sure
you install the 64 bit version of Linux, not the 32 bit version.  Google
just announced it is dropping 32 bit chrome.
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On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 16:34 -0500, Mike Markowski wrote:
> Bill,
> 
> Popular packages to consider:
> 
> 1. Rig control: hamlib at http://sourceforge.net/p/hamlib/wiki/Hamlib/
> 2. Light weight logger: xlog at http://www.nongnu.org/xlog/
> 3. dxcluster: xdx at http://sourceforge.net/projects/xdxclusterclient/
> 
> 4. Heavy weight logger: cqrlog at https://www.cqrlog.com/
> 
> Cqrlog is worth considering because it handles up/downloading to many 
> qsl sites like Log of the Word, Clublog, etc.  But it uses MySql and 
> sounds like it isn't the more minimal set up you're looking for.
> 
> I don't know of any linux K3 memory editors.
> 
> Good luck and you'll enjoy the change!  73,
> Mike ab3ap
> 
> On 01/22/2016 03:27 PM, Bill wrote:
> > [...]
> > Is there a good rig control or memory manager for the K3 written for
> > Linux users. I do no DX or contesting and I do not use any of the new
> > digital stuff - so I don't need all that extra weight, unless it is
> > easily ignored or removed.[...]
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Re: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

[David Cole]

Hi Fred,

I have no reason to believe it won't work with the KX3, or K3S either, I
just don't have one of the new K3S rigs, so I can't test it...  Hence
why I only talk about the K3.  

Now if Elecraft would just give me a K3S, I'd be happy to test it...  :)

Please do feel free to include the links to the setup.  Here is the a
direct link, which should never change.  

http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/

I will be updating it often with new macros.  I already have most filled
up...  

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On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 14:51 +, Cady, Fred wrote:
> GREAT job Dave.  I'll bet this will work with the KX3/PX3 too.  I'd like to 
> refer to it in the next editions of the K3S and KX3 books if that's OK with 
> you.
> 73,
> Fred KE7X
> 
> 
> 
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of David Cole 
> <d...@nk7z.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:38 PM
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved
> 
> Hello,
> I now have a Genovation CP48USBHID keypad working on my P3/K3 feeding up
> to 48 different macros to the K3 at a single button press.
> 
> See:
> http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/
> 
> for the how to, and a download for the patch to the Genovation to allow
> it to plug into the P3 and be recognized.
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Re: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

[David Cole]

The spreadsheet that comes with the Genovation keypad has keys on it
with the same aspect ratio as the physical keys.  This is so one can add
labels.  I added color, and labels, then printed and cut the paper to
fit under the keycaps.  The keypad comes with a keycap remover, so this
has been a godsend in labeling.  


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On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 10:31 -0500, Barry N1EU wrote:
> This is fantastic Dave and a groundbreaking development in rig
> interfacing.  Have you, or do you intend to, physically label the keys?
> 
> I NEED one of these.
> 
> Thanks & 73,
> Barry N1EU
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:17 AM, David Cole <d...@nk7z.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Fred,
> >
> > I have no reason to believe it won't work with the KX3, or K3S either, I
> > just don't have one of the new K3S rigs, so I can't test it...  Hence
> > why I only talk about the K3.
> >
> > Now if Elecraft would just give me a K3S, I'd be happy to test it...  :)
> >
> > Please do feel free to include the links to the setup.  Here is the a
> > direct link, which should never change.
> >
> > http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/
> >
> > I will be updating it often with new macros.  I already have most filled
> > up...
> >
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> > www.nk7z.net
> >
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> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
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> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 14:51 +, Cady, Fred wrote:
> > > GREAT job Dave.  I'll bet this will work with the KX3/PX3 too.  I'd like
> > to refer to it in the next editions of the K3S and KX3 books if that's OK
> > with you.
> > > 73,
> > > Fred KE7X
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of David
> > Cole <d...@nk7z.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:38 PM
> > > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > > Subject: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I now have a Genovation CP48USBHID keypad working on my P3/K3 feeding up
> > > to 48 different macros to the K3 at a single button press.
> > >
> > > See:
> > > http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/
> > >
> > > for the how to, and a download for the patch to the Genovation to allow
> > > it to plug into the P3 and be recognized.
> > > --
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> > > www.nk7z.net
> > >
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Re: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

[David Cole]

Hi,

It's not that difficult, most of the work is just programming the P3
macros into the P3 as Elecraft instructs you to do.  Which was harder to
do than prepping the Genovation, as I used an external keyboard on the
P3.  

Once the Keypad is updated, I just enter the triggers one time, hit the
download button on the keypad software, and I am done forever
programming the keypad.  

The keypad triggers the P3 to fire its macros, so you just program the
triggers in once, and on the P3 make sure they match.  If you want to
change macros, just change the P3 keeping the same trigger.  The
triggers are arbitrarily selected.  I used 1-z, 1-0, and F1-F12, one for
each key.  Then I just program the P3 to fire a macro on the appropriate
trigger.

The trick is in getting the triggers to match, and that is taken care of
by the chart you can download.

The write up makes it look a lot worse than it is because of the detail
level.  The entire process took about 3 minutes to prep the Genovation,
and the rest of the time was spent making macros on the P3.  

Once the Genovation is programmed I never program it again...  All it
does is trigger macros from the P3.

I must say, that after using the external keypad for a few hours on a
pileup it is nice...  I almost never touch the K3 anymore.  

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On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 06:46 -0500, Bill wrote:
> Sounds like a cottage industry in the making. Sell/deliver the keypad in 
> plug and play fashion along with 10 or 12 macros to be used as seeds and 
> samples (for modification and copying). Thus allowing easy installation 
> and learning how to do the macro stuff on the P3 (keypad already 
> programmed with the single alpha/numeric names for the macros to be 
> programmed in the P3).
> 
> Personally, I would pay for plug & play.
> 
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
> 
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

[David Cole]

Hello,
I now have a Genovation CP48USBHID keypad working on my P3/K3 feeding up
to 48 different macros to the K3 at a single button press. 

See:
http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/

for the how to, and a download for the patch to the Genovation to allow
it to plug into the P3 and be recognized.  
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[Elecraft] Genovation Keypad

[David Cole]

Hi,

Does anyone actually have one of these working with a K3?

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Re: [Elecraft] Wanted to share a beautiful hand made key with you.

[David Cole]

But it was cool anyway!!!  :)
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On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 08:26 -0500, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
> My dad was in the jewelry business so I gold
> plated my J-38.  It looked great, but as I
> remember, it really didn't help my sloppy sending
> very much.
> 
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On
> Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 11:10 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wanted to share a
> beautiful hand made key with you.
> 
> It's beautiful, and I suspect sends CW almost as
> well as my old WWII J-38, Hi! 
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft website now accessable through FIOS in NY

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I wonder what EXACTLY was the issue?
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On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 11:11 -0500, Fred Lauricella wrote:
> Started working properly here on FIOS in Poughkeepsie NY during the past 30
> min.
> 
> It looks like Rick, N1RM calling FIOS service did the trick.
> 
> 73 de Fred, WY2E
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[Elecraft] Who has the Genovation keypad working?

[David Cole]

Hi,

I would like to ask a few questions to someone that has the Genovation
pad working on the K3 please...  

If you would shoot me a note off list to "dave @ nk7z.net", with a phone
number in it, I would like to call for a short discussion about the
method of getting it to actually trigger the P3.  

I have macros programmed into the P3, I have the normal USB keyboard
working into the P3, and it fires macros, but the Genovation keypad
seems to simply not be seen, or more likely I am missing something...  

I "believe", I am mapping keys correctly, but I see the P3 makes no
distinction between an Upper Case A, and a lower case a...  I suspect I
am viewing things in error at that level, and maybe it is just mapping
key codes...  If that is the case, then I need to see how the Genovation
sends info out...  Anyway, I should not take much of your time, and I
would greatly appreciate about a 10 minute talk with someone who has it
running.  I am sure this is an understanding issue on my part, and I
just need a bit of guidance...

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

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Hi Jim,
I have that, and thank you for the info!  :)
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On Fri, 2015-12-25 at 12:26 -0600, Jim McDonald wrote:
> Note that Fred said a P3 with the SVGA option.
> 
> 73, Jim N7US
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> 
> Hi David,
> I don't know about a keypad but certainly a keyboard works FB.
> Happy Hols,
> 73,
> Fred
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Fred,
> Are you saying it is as simple as adding an external keypad to the P3, then
> triggering macros from the P3?
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> 
> On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 15:51 +, Cady, Fred wrote:
> > Hi,
> > A P3 with the SVGA option can store 50, 124 character macros that can be
> executed with a single Ctrl-, Alt-, or Alt-Ctrl-key.  You do have to have a
> keyboard attached to the P3 but there are a variety of small wireless
> keyboards that work.
> > Cheers and Happy Holidays to all,
> > Fred KE7X
> >
> > See www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[David Cole]

That is what I am looking for...  I can deal with the glue to make it
work, all I want to be sure of, (and another person tells me they are
using the Genovation), is that the Genovation will work...  The rest is
just glue to make it work...  Thanks again Joe!
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On Fri, 2015-12-25 at 15:14 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> It has been a very long time since I looked at the Gennovation USB/HID
> documentation and I do not own the P3SVGA (P3 only).  I do not know how
> the P3VGA macros are programmed but your description is close to the
> way I expect such a system to work.
> 
> I would recommend downloading software and documentation for both sets
> of hardware and fully understanding the operation before committing to
> either set of hardware - particularly given the cost.
> 
> 73,
> 
>... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 12/25/2015 2:36 PM, David Cole wrote:
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > As always you seem to have penetrated to the heart of my question...
> > THANK YOU!
> >
> > As I have neither seen nor owned one of these keypads yet, I assume one
> > must program each key to emulate a key on a keyboard, separately
> > first.
> >
> > So to check my understanding here is a brief overview:
> >
> > I program the Genovation, using a PC to have a few buttons emulate a few
> > ASCII keys, and unplug it, and set it aside.
> >
> > I then use a normal ASCII keyboard, jacked into the USB port of the P3
> > to program a few macros, using teh same keys as triggers I programmed
> > into the Genovation.
> >
> > I then remove the ASCII keyboard, and replace it with the Genovation
> > keypad, now if I press one of the pre-programmed keys, (and that key
> > matches a key I have pre-programmed into the P3), the macro associated
> > with that key will trigger, thus controlling the K3, or P3.
> >
> > Is that even close to correct?  If so I order a Genovation today!
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[David Cole]

Hi Joe,

As always you seem to have penetrated to the heart of my question...
THANK YOU!  

As I have neither seen nor owned one of these keypads yet, I assume one
must program each key to emulate a key on a keyboard, separately
first.  

So to check my understanding here is a brief overview:

I program the Genovation, using a PC to have a few buttons emulate a few
ASCII keys, and unplug it, and set it aside.  

I then use a normal ASCII keyboard, jacked into the USB port of the P3
to program a few macros, using teh same keys as triggers I programmed
into the Genovation. 

I then remove the ASCII keyboard, and replace it with the Genovation
keypad, now if I press one of the pre-programmed keys, (and that key
matches a key I have pre-programmed into the P3), the macro associated
with that key will trigger, thus controlling the K3, or P3. 

Is that even close to correct?  If so I order a Genovation today!
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On Fri, 2015-12-25 at 14:13 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> On 12/25/2015 1:26 PM, Jim McDonald wrote:
>  > Note that Fred said a P3 with the SVGA option.
> 
> In which the Gennoation USB/HID version should work in lieu of a
> keyboard as long as you know the keystroke equivalents to program it.
> 
> 73,
> 
>... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > 73, Jim N7US
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >
> >
> > Hi David,
> > I don't know about a keypad but certainly a keyboard works FB.
> > Happy Hols,
> > 73,
> > Fred
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

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and I thank you again sir!!
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On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 23:06 +0100, Hajo Dezelski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> have a look at this list
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/px3_keyboard_list_A3.pdf
> 
> I am sure it is also valid for the P3
> 
> 73 de Hajo DL1SDZ
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[David Cole]

Wow...  Anyone having tested this with an external keypad have a
suggestion for a device, or will just any external keypad work as long
as it is USB?
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On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 21:39 +0100, Hajo Dezelski wrote:
> In one Word: YES!
> 
> 
> 73 de Hajo
> 
> Gruss
> Hajo
> 
> ---
> Cela est bien dit, mais il faut cultiver notre jardin.
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[David Cole]

Hi Fred,
Are you saying it is as simple as adding an external keypad to the P3,
then triggering macros from the P3?
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On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 15:51 +, Cady, Fred wrote:
> Hi,
> A P3 with the SVGA option can store 50, 124 character macros that can be 
> executed with a single Ctrl-, Alt-, or Alt-Ctrl-key.  You do have to have a 
> keyboard attached to the P3 but there are a variety of small wireless 
> keyboards that work.
> Cheers and Happy Holidays to all,
> Fred KE7X
> 
> See www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of David Cole 
> <d...@nk7z.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:06 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)
> 
> Please keep this discussion on the reflector...  I am also looking for
> an external keypad for launching macros, that works with a P3, and a
> computer in place as well...
> --
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> www.nk7z.net
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> 
> 
> On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 14:43 +, Mike VE3YF wrote:
> > In February of this year, there was talk of using a Genovation CP24 Serial 
> > Keypad which would allow either 24 or 48 macros to be stored on the keypad 
> > and just hit the applicable key and send a macro to the K3. Unfortunately a 
> > couple guys tried out this keypad and it didn't work properly with a K3.
> >
> > While the idea is a great one, has anyone found a keypad that will work for 
> > this same purpose. It is either find another Keypad or go to something like 
> > a Pigknob, but the Pigknob is limited to 8 macros only.
> >
> > Any ideas etc would be greatly appreciated. Tnx and Merry Christmas to 
> > everyone.
> >
> >
> > 73 De Mike
> > VE3YF
> >
> > http://www.ve3yf.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: External Macro Launcher (Revisited)

[David Cole]

Please keep this discussion on the reflector...  I am also looking for
an external keypad for launching macros, that works with a P3, and a
computer in place as well...
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On Thu, 2015-12-24 at 14:43 +, Mike VE3YF wrote:
> In February of this year, there was talk of using a Genovation CP24 Serial 
> Keypad which would allow either 24 or 48 macros to be stored on the keypad 
> and just hit the applicable key and send a macro to the K3. Unfortunately a 
> couple guys tried out this keypad and it didn't work properly with a K3.
> 
> While the idea is a great one, has anyone found a keypad that will work for 
> this same purpose. It is either find another Keypad or go to something like a 
> Pigknob, but the Pigknob is limited to 8 macros only.
> 
> Any ideas etc would be greatly appreciated. Tnx and Merry Christmas to 
> everyone.
> 
> 
> 73 De Mike
> VE3YF
> 
> http://www.ve3yf.com
> [http://www.ve3yf.com/]
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Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Ext. Frequency Reference Input

[David Cole]

Speaking of using a GPSDO, I have a quick question...

I use a program called SBSpectrum, it shows frequency changes less than
one Hz.  

I note that the K3, does frequency correction in small sawtooth steps of
about 1/4 to 1 Hz, across a few seconds of time, repeatedly...  It is as
if some threshold is passed and the K3 then instantly jumps to a
corrected frequency, and then the process repeats...

I would like to avoid this, does using a GPSDO avoid this method keeping
the frequency stable?

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On Tue, 2015-12-22 at 00:08 +, Mike VE3YF wrote:
> GPSDO

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Re: [Elecraft] any ideals who might have these?

[David Cole]

Yup, I use an SO-239 metal connector cap on mine, looks great.
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On Fri, 2015-12-11 at 22:51 -0700, ky7k wrote:
> The mic connector is the same size as SO239 or N connectors so caps for those 
> will work, just google so239 cap
> 72
> 
> > On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:10 PM, KC6CNN  wrote:
> > 
> > I am looking for a cap of some sort that will screw on the microphone
> > connector on my K3 and my K2. 
> > I just want some type of cap that will protect it from dust. 
> > I saw a youtube video of a guy in the UK that had some type of a cap screwed
> > on his and it looked nice. 
> > Any ideals of where they got those or who can make them?
> > Thanks
> > Gerald - KC6CNN
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > KC6CNN - Gerald
> > K1 # 0014
> > K2 # 5486
> > K3 # 6294
> > KX3 # 757
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 M1 Button Corrupt

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Off to make another config file...
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On Sat, 2015-12-12 at 15:30 -0700, Ron N9RC wrote:
> Don,  Good news EE INIT cures the problem.  Bad news I'll be manually
> rebuilding my config.
> 
> 
> 
> -
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: B & W antenna

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Make that BWD-90, not BED-90.
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On Wed, 2015-12-09 at 22:20 -0800, David Cole wrote:
> The BED-90 works fairly well on 75 Meters, about 2 S units down from a
> dipole, but it has a 1:1 on almost any frequency between 3 MHz., and 30
> Mhz., which is fine for me as I am using a KW for MARS work, and we are
> on clear frequencies...  
> 
> I have heard several stories about what it has for a resistor on it, if
> anyone knows for sure, I would be most interested.

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: B & W antenna

[David Cole]

The BED-90 works fairly well on 75 Meters, about 2 S units down from a
dipole, but it has a 1:1 on almost any frequency between 3 MHz., and 30
Mhz., which is fine for me as I am using a KW for MARS work, and we are
on clear frequencies...  

I have heard several stories about what it has for a resistor on it, if
anyone knows for sure, I would be most interested.
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On Wed, 2015-12-09 at 19:17 -0800, Fred Jensen wrote:
> All Guard armories everywhere had/have them since I was a teenager [when 
> dirt was young].  They served/serve a specific purpose very well, wide 
> band coverage where nobody is trying to work DX.
> 
> We had fan dipoles [2 or 3 freqs] in SE Asia, tough to tune, especially 
> on missions.  Fortunately, when they arrived with our gear, the guys in 
> the Philippines had already adjusted and marked them.
> 
> I wonder sometimes why coupled-resonator dipole haven't caught on in the 
> ham community.  I've built several, the first when the WARC HF bands 
> opened.  They're cheap, easy to build, and extremely easy to adjust, and 
> they're "a half-wave dipole" on every band with a predictable pattern 
> and balanced feed.  I've never done more than 3 bands, but I've heard in 
> the past [anecdotally] doing 5 using those old crossed spacers designed 
> for cage elements.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016
> - www.cqp.org
> 
> On 12/9/2015 6:10 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
> > The B & W antenna was/is a T2FD.  I have several rolled up in my shed, and
> > all National Guard armories in Montana have them in use.
> >
> > 73 - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] New K3SYNA and RTTY

[David Cole]

Hi,

I also see big differences between the new and old synths...  I did some
very informal graphs of performance using the P3, and a neighbor, very
large reduction in noise for me when he transmits now...  They show a
marked difference in the noise.

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On Mon, 2015-12-07 at 00:18 -0500, Rich wrote:
> I am seeing dramatic improvements in weak signal RTTY decoding.
> 
> Are other K3 RTTY contesters out there seeing the same remarkable 
> improvement?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

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Isn't that the same Peter M that wrote the Dopplergram program?  If so,
he is one smart cookie...  He is in my Dopplergram group on Yahoo, and
the depth of knowledge he demonstrates almost daily is amazing...
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On Sat, 2015-11-28 at 03:08 -0700, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote:

> There was also an excellent article about it in Radcom by P. Martinez
> (G3PLX), "Long Delayed Echoes, A Study of Magnetospheric Duct Echoes
> 1997-2007," Radcom, Oct 2007, pp. 60-63 (not on the web to my knowledge).
> 
> I have an analysis of several such medium delayed echoes or
> magnetospherically delayed echoes (MDE), including that of G3PLX, here:
> http://la3za.blogspot.no/2010/03/magnetospherically-ducted-echo.html 
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Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

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I had no idea he was the originator of AMTOR, and PSK31 as well.  That
answers why he know so much...  

He is in the group for support of Dopplergram, and is very active
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On Sat, 2015-11-28 at 15:04 +, Stephen Prior wrote:
> Yes, he's also the originator of the amateur form of AMTOR and PSK31.
> 
> 73 Stephen
> 
> On 28 November 2015 at 14:13, David Cole <d...@nk7z.net> wrote:
> 
> > Isn't that the same Peter M that wrote the Dopplergram program?  If so,
> > he is one smart cookie...  He is in my Dopplergram group on Yahoo, and
> > the depth of knowledge he demonstrates almost daily is amazing...
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> >
> > On Sat, 2015-11-28 at 03:08 -0700, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote:
> >
> > > There was also an excellent article about it in Radcom by P. Martinez
> > > (G3PLX), "Long Delayed Echoes, A Study of Magnetospheric Duct Echoes
> > > 1997-2007," Radcom, Oct 2007, pp. 60-63 (not on the web to my knowledge).
> > >
> > > I have an analysis of several such medium delayed echoes or
> > > magnetospherically delayed echoes (MDE), including that of G3PLX, here:
> > > http://la3za.blogspot.no/2010/03/magnetospherically-ducted-echo.html
> > >
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[Elecraft] US Spot Counts...

[David Cole]

Hi,

Please forgive a slightly off topic post here...

I have just added US Spot counts by hour, for all bands as an aid to
knowing when the band is open, to my web page.

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Re: [Elecraft] What are your favorite K3 and KX3 macros?

[David Cole]

Hi,
I have a few macros here...

http://nk7z.net/wiki/elecraft-k3-macros/

Some I have gotten off the mail lists, and some I have built...  This is
my Wiki for the K3.  I just began adding to it a few months ago...

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On Thu, 2015-11-12 at 12:56 +0100, Hajo Dezelski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Although I have done my share in programming and have studied the
> programmers reference manual and have played with the macro examples, I
> must confess, that I am sometimes lost.  I looked up the net and found some
> interesting solutions, which only could be programmed if you really know
> how things play together in the Elecraft rigs.
> 
> I have learned that the need for K3 owners to program macros is not so high
> on the priority list for the UI is nearly complete, but for us "poor" Kx3
> and Px3 hams without the in-depth knowledge it would be great, if we could
> manage with the push of a button to let the Kx3 perform some somersaults
> ;-))
> 
> So if someone would open his bag of tricks concerning macros ... You are
> welcome.
> 
> 73 de
> Hajo ( DL1SDZ)
> 
> PS: My favorite noncompetitive macro in the moment
> KYWPLEASE IMPROVE BANDCONDITIONS TNX;
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Re: [Elecraft] Soldering crimped connectors is not a good thing.

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Could someone recommend a good crimper please?  This has been a most
interesting discussion.
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On Thu, 2015-11-05 at 12:41 -0500, Michael Blake wrote:
> leroy, thanks for your comments.  I don’t know what to say other than your 
> experiences are vastly different from my personal experiences as well as the 
> experiences of both the telephone industry  (Bell System and Verizon) and the 
> automotive industry.
> 
> While not intending to be mean spirited the fact that you have experienced 
> this probably means that the failed connections were not really properly 
> crimped.
> 
> Michael Blake
> K9JRI
> 
> 
> 
> > On Nov 5, 2015, at 11:05 AM, lmarion  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I have the proper tools.
> > Over time the joints have become intermittent.
> > 
> > The joints I properly crimped and soldered have never become intermittent.
> > I guess the molecular bond with solder is greater  ; )
> > 
> > Leroy
> > 
> > -Original Message- From: Robert Harmon
> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:30 AM
> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Soldering crimped connectors is not a good thing.
> > 
> > thanks Mike,   good info !
> > 
> > 73
> > Bob
> > K6UJ
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/5/15 7:18 AM, Michael Blake wrote:
> >> While many people recommend soldering crimped connectors, such as Anderson 
> >> Power Poles, it is not a very good idea.  The reason(s) it is neither 
> >> required, nor desired, is partially as follows:
> >> 
> >> 1. A PROPERLY crimped connection creates a molecular bond between the 
> >> conductor and the connector that is more conductive than soldering.
> >> 2. The soldering process causes corrosion because even rosin core solder 
> >> is slightly acidic.
> >> 3. The solder that flows into or onto the conductor (wire) causes it to 
> >> stiffen and increases the probability that vibration or movement will 
> >> cause the wire to break at that point.
> >> 4. The annealing of the copper wire is altered which also increases the 
> >> possibility of wire breakage due to vibration or movement.
> >> 
> >> It is absolutely necessary that the proper tool be used for the connection 
> >> being crimped.  If you are going to use a crimped connection it is 
> >> imperative that you have a tool that matches the connector.  If you do not 
> >> have the proper tool then DO NOT use crimped connections.
> >> 
> >> Michael Blake
> >> k9...@outlook.com
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[Elecraft] If you worked V47T in the CQWW last month...

[David Cole]

See this URL to hear your signal

http://km3t.org/v47t-cqwwssb2015/wtQsoPlayer.php

Just enter your call sign in the input window...

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

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I also run with no AGC...  It makes a major difference in how the data
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On Wed, 2015-10-28 at 00:22 +, Frank Precissi wrote:
> I run the K3 with AGC-Off in all digital modes and rely on the roofing/DSP
> filters to edge out really strong signals.  Most of the time the software
> will compensate in pulling the weak signals out of the mud a lot better
> than your rig making them louder.
> 
> I would suggest playing with each setting and see what works the best for
> your particular setup.  I've read mixed things about AGC pumping, but dont
> know if they are relevant to the K3.
> 
> Frank
> KG6EYC
> 
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:04 PM Bob McGraw - K4TAX 
> wrote:
> 
> > I do run a fair amount of PSK-31 and much enjoy the same.  In that
> > regard I always run AGC-F.   For selectivity, in dealing with strong
> > signals in the midst of weak signals, I shift the passband and tighten
> > the bandwidth as needed.RF gain is always adjusted based on band
> > noise such that signals just flicker the S meter.  NR and NB can be used
> > with success.  However adjustment of the parameters will be likely
> > needed,  again based on band noise and signals.  In other words "there
> > is no shoe size that fits all".Skill, practice and patience prevails.
> >
> > 73
> > Bob, K4TAX
> > K3S s/n 10163
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/27/2015 5:32 PM, Leroy Buller wrote:
> > > Hi guys
> > >
> > >   Old topic from a Old Newbie.  I have been fooling around with PSK 31
> > and I
> > > have it set up and working but I do have a question.  Do most ops using
> > > this mode turn off the AGC and then ride the RF gain control because of
> > the
> > > stronger signals in the band pass killing off the weaker signals?
> > >
> > > Is that how it is doneor am I missing something
> > >
> > > Yes, I have searched Google and could not find a good answer.
> > >
> > > Lee - K0WA
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Re: [Elecraft] Mic Settings

[David Cole]

Jim,
I would take you up on that if possible as well!!  Pick a time...
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On Tue, 2015-10-20 at 09:36 -0700, Jim Brown wrote:
> On Tue,10/20/2015 8:51 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
> > I am using a Heil HC-4 element with no
> > equalizer settings, mic 30 compression 18.
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> I'd be happy to listen to you on the air and talk you through adjustments.
> 
> Some suggestions. Ignore your numbers of 30 and 18 -- they are the wrong 
> thing to look at. Start with TXEQ -- set the three lowest bands to 
> maximum cut, take the 4th band down about 6 dB. Leave everything else 
> set flat (0dB). Now, turn compression all the way down, and adjust your 
> mic gain so that you see occasional peaks of full power. To get the 
> right setting, you may need to temporarily increase VOX GAIN. Now, turn 
> up compression so that on the compression METER, you see peaks of about 
> 10 dB. This is the way you want to run it.
> 
> This will get you in the ballpark, and it's time to get some signal 
> reports. Also, if you're like me, you probably yell louder during the 
> contest, so be prepared to turn the mic gain down to stay within those 
> settings.
> 
> You will, of course, want to balance the live mic with recordings. The 
> above assumes that the live mic is on the mic input and the computer is 
> on the Line Input. That's how I work. So once you're adjusted for the 
> live mic, you'll want to adjust computer playback to get the same 
> indications of compression.
> 
> There's more to the computer gain adjustment. It's written up here, 
> following the disucssion of computer sound cards.
> 
> http://k9yc.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 main DSP Board upgrade Price ?

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No he isn't...  
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On Sun, 2015-10-18 at 11:29 -0700, Phil Wheeler wrote:
> You are not alone, Ed :-)
> 
> Phil W7OX
> 
> On 10/18/15 11:16 AM, KD7PY wrote:
> > Was posted a while ago that as soon as all the K3S' orders were caught up
> > with that the new DSP upgrade board would be available..   I have been
> > waiting to up grade mine along with the KSYN3AUPG.
> > just waiting for costs and how close to being able to ship.
> >
> > Ed KD7PYex K7WIA
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

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That is exactly how I got V73D as well...  Watching him on the P3 work
people, and pre-positioning myself in front of him...
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On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 07:09 -0700, Mike K2MK wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> As you described, having both a Sub RX and a P3 are a great asset for
> working split operations. One area where the P3 excels is finding a quiet
> spot to transmit. It's not always as obvious with the Sub RX. With a modest
> station it may not be beneficial to jump on the exact frequency of the last
> QSO. A clear frequency can be a better choice.
> 
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
> 
> 
> 
> dyarnes-2 wrote
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using
> > the 
> > 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be the 
> > difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about 
> > every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The DX clusters don't
> > really 
> > help that much.  By the time you see the split indicated, it has probably 
> > changed a good bit.  If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on 
> > "outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong suit here! 
> > Hi. 
> > By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively
> > easy 
> > thanks to the 2nd RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding 
> > the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if 
> > working DX is your goal.
> > 
> > Dave W7AQK 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

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Then just wait for some poor person to transmit on top of the DX, in
error, and look for all the band cops sending UP UP UP, and you can find
the DX frequency as well.  :)
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On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 10:03 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote:
> On 10/14/15 at 6:27 AM, w7...@cox.net (w7aqk) wrote:
> 
> >I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it 
> >without using the 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 
> >2nd RX always seems to be the difference.
> 
> I find the P3 is really good for finding the DX in the first 
> place. (I am frequently in places with no Internet access.) A DX 
> pileup has a special look on the P3 with one (weak) station 
> transmitting and then the pileup coming back (except for the 
> ones who aren't listening to the DX and are just transmitting). 
> I agree with Mike that the P3 is also good for finding an open 
> place to transmit, particularly valuable when doing RTTY.
> 
> OTOH, I have a brand new 2nd receiver and diversity was 
> wonderful in the California QSO party. It beats the REV button 
> hands down. I would go with the P3 first. HIHI
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S / P3 Pre-Purchase questions

[David Cole]

Hi,
Just this morning, I used my P3 to look at the signals answering TX3X,
looking for an expanded view, showing 3 KHz wide, and centered on the UP
frequency.  This allows me to fit into the holes where no one is calling
during a pileup...  It takes very little time to set this up on the P3.
I can, and probably will, create a bush button for it.  Then it will
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On Mon, 2015-10-05 at 06:34 -0700, Ignacy wrote:
> You can look at comparison of LP-PAN and P3 on LP-Pan site. Take adjustment
> for smaller dynamic range of your $20 stick.
> 
> Advantages of P3 are:
> 1. Small size,
> 2. Independence from PC = stability
> 3. Ability to change parameters with one pushbutton. 
> Tight integration with K3 including the radio's bandwidth. 
> 
> P3 is especially useful in contesting/Dxing in CW with weak signal. At 2 KHz
> span one can see signals that are barely heard. 
> 
> I moved from SDR-IQ to P3 and feel it was a good move.
> 
> Ignacy, NO9E 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Windows 7 AGC on Input

[David Cole]

Hi,
Thank you, however I have been over that one...  I think Mike Flowers
hit the correct answer...
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On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 20:06 -0700, Rick Bates, WA6NHC wrote:
> From my saved email files... it may help/apply.
> 
> 
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=
> 
> Found this article posted on the Yahoo Groups Ten-Tec Omni VII group
> today:  
> https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/3eytah/huge_windows_bug_ruining_your_receive_performance/
> 
>  
> 
> The article discusses a Windows Vista and later versions bug when
> interfacing with an audio device utilizing the Texas
> Instruments PCM2900 series PCM2904 and below, pre-C revisions device.
> The article also shows a permanent (software configuration change) fix
> for the bug.
> 
>  
> 
> The article states that all Signalink USB digital mode interfaces are
> affected by this bug.
> 
>  
> 
> Knowing that some of you are using the Signalink USB, I’m sending you
> this info in case you were not already aware of it.
> 
>  
> 
> Some of you may have rigs with a direct computer interface for digital
> mode operation.  Your rig may use the affected TI device.  If so, you
> are also affected.
> 
>  
> 
> In my case, I use the Signalink USB.  When I first installed it, I
> noted I had to run the Signalink’s RX gain and Codec gain controls
> very low to get good levels to the computer.  As a result, I added a
> 10:3510 or -51db (voltage) divider on the Signalink’s input (mounted
> on the rig programming socket inside the unit).  Now I know why that
> was required – the bug in Windows for the audio device being used.
> With the bug fix from the article, I have now reverted back to not
> using the voltage divider.  Hopefully, levels are now above noise
> floor values and results will be better.  I’ve also downloaded and
> installed the digital level meter applet the author mentioned.  It is
> available at http://www.darkwooddesigns.co.uk/pc2/meters.html, about
> 1/3 down in the page.
> 
>  
> 
> Hope you find this article useful.
> 
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>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick, WA6NHC
> 
> 
> iPad = small keypad = typos = sorry ;-)
> 
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 8:39 AM, David Cole <d...@nk7z.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am trying to solve a slight digital problem, using my K3.  I
> > suspect
> > that Windows 7 has an AGC of some type on it controlling the Line
> > Input
> > levels.
> > 
> > Can someone verify if this is true, and if so, is there a way to
> > disable
> > the AGC on input?
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[Elecraft] OT: Windows 7 AGC on Input

[David Cole]

Hello,

I am trying to solve a slight digital problem, using my K3.  I suspect
that Windows 7 has an AGC of some type on it controlling the Line Input
levels.

Can someone verify if this is true, and if so, is there a way to disable
the AGC on input?

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Problem

[David Cole]

Hi Paul,
Thank you for the suggestion, but respectfully, I am not sure I want to
take such a brut force fix for this, as I have many prams set, that are
not at default.  Does this reset everything in the radio to factory?  

I want to understand what is happening before I make changes...
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On Thu, 2015-10-01 at 13:41 -0700, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote:
> Hi Ken, 
> 
> A 'parameter reset' should solve the problem.  Hold down the MENU button
> while pressing the POWER button.  This will reinitialize all the parameters
> to their default values.  
> 
> 73, 
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Update: K3 Issues Since Synthesizer Upgrade

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I got a few of the ERR KEY messages as well, I am unable to reproduce
them as well...
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On Thu, 2015-10-01 at 10:53 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi Dennis,
> 
> > #2- I have heard a number of loud audio "pops" since the above changes.
> 
> Please email me directly with a description of how these pops can be 
> produced, i.e. what controls you're using at the time.
> 
> 
> > #4- During CQWW RTTY, if I was transmitting and pushed a key- say A/B, or 
> > Rev- transmitting stops, I get an "Error PTT" followed by an "Error Key" in 
> > the VFO B window for a few seconds each, then the radio clears itself.  I 
> > can then resume transmitting.  No audio loss while this is happening.
> 
> This shouldn't happen. I've been trying to reproduce it. Again, let me know 
> exactly how the rig is set up and whether there's a way to consistently 
> reproduce it.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] The KSYN3A synth will always be available as a K3 upgrade

[David Cole]

Wayne,
THANK YOU!  That mindset youhave is why I bought Elecraft!
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On Thu, 2015-10-01 at 11:54 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just to put an end to any unfounded rumors: The KSYN3A will always be 
> available for K3 upgrades. We use the same synth module in the K3S, and there 
> is no end date.
> 
> 73,
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[Elecraft] K3/P3 issue

[David Cole]

Perhaps I missed the answer to this...

My SVGA external monitor shows signals about 1/2 to one S unit lower
than my P3 does on the native screen...  What am I missing?

If I use Peak Hold, there is a clear 1/2 to one S-Unit difference in teh
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3 issue

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Nothing, but THANK YOU...  Can you remail me please...
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On Thu, 2015-10-01 at 13:36 -0700, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote:
> Hi David, 
> 
> Check your inbox/spam folder, I emailed you directly on this.  
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[Elecraft] K3/SVGA Question

[David Cole]

Hello,
I noticed today, that the SVGA display shows one S unit lower than the
normal P3 display...

An example is as follows:

1.  I set the P3 to 200 KHz wide.
2.  SVGA shows plus/minus 100 KHz, as the P3 does.
3.  I turn on peak hold.
4.  I have a peak of S9 on the P3, but on the SVGA the peak is S8.

What am I not understanding here?

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Re: [Elecraft] What crystal filter do you use the most?

[David Cole]

Hi Mike,
I understand it is a roofing filter...  I have a number of hams, (5),
all within 1.5 miles of me, I need the roofing filter to remove them
during contests...  :)
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On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 12:13 -0400, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
> The filters you guys are discussing are roofing filters. The filtering you're 
> thinking about is done digitally, and is continuously variable. The K3s  
> isn't your Dad's analog rig.  
> 
> Here's an Elecraft article explaining roofing filters. 
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/Roofing_Filters.htm
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
> 
> 
> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Kenneth Christiansen <w...@i29.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi to the Gang
> > 
> > This is a subjective question but after using a 500 hz and 200 hz filter 
> > for 7 years I ordered a 400 filter for my K3s. The main reason is it works 
> > well for both CW and RTTY and of course the DSP does all the rest. I also 
> > ordered a 2.1 khz filter so if I go past 400 hz I get that one. It works 
> > well for me but this is just my opinion.
> > 
> > Ken W0CZw0cz at i29 dot net
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >> On Sep 28, 2015, at 10:18 AM, David Cole <d...@nk7z.net> wrote:
> >> 
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> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 07:57 -0700, dw wrote:
> >>> Hello gang,
> >>> Just ordered my first K3.
> >>> I haven't ordered any filters or accessories yet.
> >>> Want to wait and see what I really will need.
> >>> 
> >>> I'd like to illicit your experience with the use of crystal filters for
> >>> CW.
> >>> What filter do you find you use the most and why?
> >>> I won't be using the K3 for contestingjust casual CW-only DXing and
> >>> occasional rag-chews.
> >>> Of late, I've really enjoyed getting on 40m and 30m at sunrise.
> >>> 
> >>> Many thanks in advance
> >>> N1BBR :-]
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Re: [Elecraft] Best way to make comparative antenna signal strength measurements using K3 (and P3)

[David Cole]

Interesting question just popped into my head as I read this...  

Does the P3 follow which RX is selected?  

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On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 07:39 -0700, Bill Conwell wrote:
> I'd like to do some quick and dirty comparing of antenna output signals
> using my K3 (and/or P3).
> 
>  
> 
> (I've got two antennas I'd like to compare using different received carrier
> signals - e.g., from a neighbor's TX, W1AW RTTY bulletins, etc.)
> 
>  
> 
> I see that the K3 can display the RMS value of receiver AF output (mVp-p),
> unaffected by AF GAIN control.  And after that stabilizes, I can also get
> dbV to display.  (How long is the stabilization period?  Does the display
> sample and hold a single value, or is it averaged and continuously updated?
> It seems like the former.)
> 
>  
> 
> Is this the way to go, or is there something I can do with the P3 that will
> give a readout in dBm?  (I guess I could make a rough graphical measurement
> by setting the P3 display threshold to match the weaker signal, then
> switching to the stronger signal, and seeing how far above that threshold it
> rises - with Scaling maximized.)
> 
>  
> 
> I know there's also W8WWW's S-Meter Lite, with which I've also dabbled -
> presenting a digital S-meter, or relative dB, output.  (Or I could do a step
> attenuator approach, but then I couldn't compare by simply flicking the
> antenna switch, and QSB would be a problem.)
> 
>  
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
>  
> 
> Tnx,
> 
>  
> 
> /Bill, K2PO
> 
> Portland, OR
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Re: [Elecraft] What crystal filter do you use the most?

[David Cole]

Hi,
I use the 400 Hz filter for CW, and would enjoy a 1 KHz filter I
believe...  The 400 is just a touch to narrow for my tastes.  It works
well in crowded conditions, and I would not want to get rid of it, but a
1 KHz might get more use...
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On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 07:57 -0700, dw wrote:
> Hello gang,
> Just ordered my first K3.
> I haven't ordered any filters or accessories yet.
> Want to wait and see what I really will need.
> 
> I'd like to illicit your experience with the use of crystal filters for
> CW.
> What filter do you find you use the most and why?
> I won't be using the K3 for contestingjust casual CW-only DXing and
> occasional rag-chews.
> Of late, I've really enjoyed getting on 40m and 30m at sunrise.
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> N1BBR :-]
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Small solar array to handle just the shack, computers, and lighting

[David Cole]

Wayne,
Does this mane you will be developing the phase canceling RFI remover
what was discussed here a few months ago?  Kidding of course...
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On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 15:04 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> I received many helpful replies on my quasi-off-topic post. Once I've 
> digested it all and have something meaningful in the way of a summary, I'll 
> send an update. 
> 
> tnx
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Jim Lowman  wrote:
> 
> > Yes, Wayne did so and I obliged, asking him to post a summary of the 
> > replies that he receives.
> > One function of mailing lists like this is to share information. This is a 
> > topic that I don't recall being discussed here.
> > 
> > I disagree that the thread is off-topic in the first place.
> > It deals with power for the shack, presumably to power Elecraft equipment.
> > 
> > 73 de Jim - AD6CW
> > 
> > Letting Eric handle the list management.  I don't think he needs any help.
> > 
> > On 9/25/2015 11:14 AM, Oliver Dröse wrote:
> >> Please don't start another off-topic thread, guys! Wayne requested 
> >> responses off-list ...
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Olli
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Re: [Elecraft] Another Elecraft price increase...

[David Cole]

Yes, I agree as well...  Please stick to things radio...
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On Thu, 2015-09-24 at 21:02 -0400, Scott Manthe wrote:
> Tom,
> There are forums where the politicization of topics is appropriate. This 
> isn't one of them. If you want to proselytize to your captive audience 
> on Facebook, go for it, but as for doing it here? I say don't.
> 
> Scott N9AA
> 
> 
> On 9/24/15 8:43 PM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote:
> > "We have hit the point where we will be increasing prices slightly on a 
> > number
> > of our products by about the middle of October."
> >
> > Hm...again eh? Seems like everything is going up except wages for the 
> > American worker. Seems they stopped going up about inauguration 1980 & that 
> > gap just started getting bigger & bigger. I hope I live long enough to see 
> > Americans "just say no" about this absurd situation. I guess I haven't got 
> > there yet since we just bought a new 2016 Honda for the wife a few weeks 
> > ago but I'm getting there. I think I got there with ham radio awhile ago. 
> > Someone remarked about college tuition, new cars & the grocery store and 
> > instructed us to quit whining. Hilarious advice really. Yes America, just 
> > take it and keep on taking it. We plan to make more cuts & lower your wages 
> > even more, certainly not raise them and the CEO's...They only make 300 
> > times or more what the worker bee does...they need a raise and a tax cut! 
> > So buck up! Quit whining! Buy it or don't! We don't care!
> >
> > I say don't.
> >
> >
> >"If the knowledge of a God is the most necessary, why is it not 
> > the most evident and the clearest?”
> > -Percy Bysshe Shelley,
> >"The Necessity
> >
> >
> >"If the knowledge of a God is the most necessary, why is it not 
> > the most evident and the clearest?”
> > -Percy Bysshe Shelley,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question

[David Cole]

Hi,
Just making the point that as things are added, you will need more
space...  I once built a tight cabinet like that, and within a year, it
was too small...  
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On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 21:13 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote:
> That will likely go on top when I get it eventually :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David
> Cole
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:55 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question
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> What about the new Speaker?  :)
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> On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 15:28 -0400, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> > It's been a while and I'm a huge proponent of measure twice cut once. 
> > I'm building a hutch for my operating desk. The desk is 4' wide x 28" deep
> (2'
> > 4"). I'm right handed and my primary mode will be CW. I have both a 
> > Bencher paddle and a generic straight key. I need about 18" wide for 
> > my K3S and future P3. The K3S is 10"x10"x7.25"(stand extended and air gap
> above it.
> > Planning to use a 1 x or 2 x 12 for the shelf and 1x for the vertical 
> > supports.
> > 
> > Not sure on right to left arrangement with me sitting in the middle. 
> > Was thinking keys, then P3, then radio, then space to the left.
> > Allowing 3/4" for the end support, 9 inches for the keys to store, 
> > 3/4" for a vertical support, then 18" or so for the P3, then K3S, the 
> > 3/4 for vertical Support. That brings me 29.25" from the Right edge 
> > leaving 18" (if we subtract 3/4" for the end vertical support) for the 
> > Eventual AMP. If I eventually get the External antenna tuner it will 
> > go on top of the shelf or on top of the amp directly if it will fit.
> > 
> > Does this sound like a proper setup to operate CW with the arm on the 
> > desk..etc.. turn dials with the left hand..etc.. I'll have a 
> > laptop/monitors on top of the shelf and a smallish keyboard/mouse on the
> desktop.
> > 
> > Just trying to get it all worked out so I don't have to remake this 
> > thing several times.. why re-invent the wheel when someone has already 
> > done it right?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Jerry Moore
> > K3S SN# TBA Wednesday
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Station setup question

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What about the new Speaker?  :)
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On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 15:28 -0400, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
> It's been a while and I'm a huge proponent of measure twice cut once. I'm
> building a hutch for my operating desk. The desk is 4' wide x 28" deep (2'
> 4"). I'm right handed and my primary mode will be CW. I have both a Bencher
> paddle and a generic straight key. I need about 18" wide for my K3S and
> future P3. The K3S is 10"x10"x7.25"(stand extended and air gap above it.
> Planning to use a 1 x or 2 x 12 for the shelf and 1x for the vertical
> supports. 
> 
> Not sure on right to left arrangement with me sitting in the middle. Was
> thinking keys, then P3, then radio, then space to the left. 
> Allowing 3/4" for the end support, 9 inches for the keys to store, 3/4" for
> a vertical support, then 18" or so for the P3, then K3S, the 3/4 for
> vertical Support. That brings me 29.25" from the Right edge leaving 18" (if
> we subtract 3/4" for the end vertical support) for the Eventual AMP. If I
> eventually get the External antenna tuner it will go on top of the shelf or
> on top of the amp directly if it will fit.
> 
> Does this sound like a proper setup to operate CW with the arm on the
> desk..etc.. turn dials with the left hand..etc.. I'll have a laptop/monitors
> on top of the shelf and a smallish keyboard/mouse on the desktop.
> 
> Just trying to get it all worked out so I don't have to remake this thing
> several times.. why re-invent the wheel when someone has already done it
> right? 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Jerry Moore
> K3S SN# TBA Wednesday  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 to Pro III, my thoughts to Jeff, wb0m

[David Cole]

I must second Phil's thoughts here...  I also did the A/B, and now have
only a K3...  
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On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 10:30 -0700, Phil Hystad wrote:
> OK, before this thread gets the whack of Eric, my two bits.
> 
> When I got my K3, I also owned an Icom 756 Pro III.  My plan was to keep both 
> — I am the original owner of the Pro III and I had this feeling that every 
> time I sold a radio I regretted the decision.
> 
> Right from the start I did a detailed comparison and being mostly interested 
> in CW, my comparison tests were all about CW.  
> 
> Picking out weak signals — absolutely no contest.  I could copy a signal Q5 
> on the K3 that I couldn’t even hear on the Pro III even though both were 
> using the same antenna (switching back and forth).
> 
> Pulling out a signal amongst QRM and QRN — absolutely no contest.  The 
> filters on the K3 made a big difference that could not be matched by the 
> filters on the Pro III.
> 
> So, I became hooked on the K3.  When the P3 came out, since I was a lover of 
> the spectrum display on the Pro III, I bought it right away.  Now, the die 
> was cast.  The Pro III took up valuable room in the shack and collected 
> worthless dust I didn’t want to clean.  This went on for two years of total 
> non-use.  Finally, I decided to sell.  Turned on the Pro III for the first 
> time in two years to test it out and then sold it within one day via 
> Craigslist for $1850 (two years ago).
> 
> No, after two years, I have not regretted my decision to sell the Pro III.  I 
> am done with Icom unless they come out with something really great and 
> different (despite the fact that Icom HQ (USA) and their main service shop is 
> just five blocks from my home QTH).
> 
> Note:  if you operate SSB only (or, mostly) then the performance differences 
> between the Icom Pro III and the K3 are probably less dramatic although I 
> never did any comparison tests in SSB mode.
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I have both radios..bought both new...I'd advise you to keep your Pro III & 
> > add a K3 or K3s but if that's not an option then I would say keep your Pro 
> > III & wait a bit longer for the inevitable "next incarnation" of the 
> > K3...possibly a K4. I think you will find that you will miss your Pro III 
> > greatly if you let it go and you might not be convinced that you made a 
> > good decision after you get your new K3 in your hands. When/if you do get 
> > it in your hands, your first thought will be why is this K3 so much lighter 
> > than my Pro III???Yeah, it's a bit smaller (mine sets on top of my Pro III) 
> > but your Icom weighs in at over 20 pounds and your K3 might only weigh 7 or 
> > 8 pounds...both use an external PS so that's not the reason??? To many 
> > peeps that's awesome while to others it suggests something (or a lot) might 
> > be missing. I'll tell you right now that the Pro III is FAR easier to use 
> > than the K3 and you will need to purchase Fred Cady's (KE7X) manual to 
> > really learn the K3...IMO. You will also likely sense a certain "cheapness" 
> > to the K3 as compared to your old Icom. Depending on what you do with your 
> > radio, you may not notice any performance advantage at 
> > all...again...depends on what you do with it. I like both radios & don't 
> > want to start an argument about this radio vs that radio yet again...there 
> > have been zillions of such debates already, you can spend hours reading 
> > them online. If your Pro III is as flawless as mine (& one of the last ones 
> > produced) and not used that often (I have 3 radios which reduces wear & 
> > tear on any single radio), I would think very long & hard before parting 
> > with it. Hopefully you've sat down in front of a K3 and operated it so that 
> > your not surprised when you open the box, if you haven't done that...you 
> > need to do so. I know some that bought the radio and sold it soon after 
> > buying it because it wasn't what they expected. For those that tell you 
> > that "you won't regret it", maybe they really do regret parting with their 
> > Pro III but just want some company in the dunces corner!  I say that you 
> > may very definitely regret it! Mine is staying right where it is. 
> > 
> > kd0bcf
> > 
> > 
> >  "If the knowledge of a God is the most necessary, why is it not 
> > the most evident and the clearest?”
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Re: [Elecraft] IC-756 ProIII & K3S

[David Cole]

I have to echo these thoughts...  When I purchased my K3, (not S), I A/B
compared both to each other...  I was perfectly ready to sell the K3 if
it did not perform a lot better...  My goal was the best rig possible on
my budget...

I was going to take a month to do the A/B, as I expected them to be
close, in under a week I put the Pro III up for sale...  The K3 is that
much better, period...  I have several hams living close, and the K3
simply erases them unless they are with in 10 or 15 KHz, and running a
KW...  The Pro III was wiped out when they opened up...

I hear another layer of stations I simply did not hear with the Pro III.
You will not be sorry...


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On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 22:02 +, n...@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Jeff, 
>   
> I just recently went from the PROIII to the K3S. Although, my PROIII did NOT 
> have the Inrad roofing filters. 
>   
> The gotta haves for me were 100 watts, antenna tuner, 250hz 500hz 2.1khz 
> 2.7Khz and 6Khz roofing filters, and P3 Panadapter. I am a contester and DX 
> chaser.  
> I actually ordered with 200hz 5 pole filter, but that went unavailable during 
> the time my unit went into production. The combination of the 500hz and 250hz 
> filters serve my purpose well. I chose not to go with the second RX at this 
> time as I never used the dual watch on the proIII, and got very used to using 
> the spectrum scope and switching either back and forth between split or RIT. 
> I just never felt comfortable listening to TX/RX freqs simultaineously. Just 
> like I struggle trying to carry on a verbal conversation and coping CW, one 
> or the other please! Just my preference, and I'm comfortable with it :) 
> My main focus is contesting and was looking to improve RX capability on CW 
> and RTTY/digital. Also wanted to get rid of all the sound card interconnects 
> for AFSK operation. Secondary was improving SSB blocking even a little bit 
> over the PROIII. The K3S has proven to be all and more of what I was looking 
> for. CW and AFSK RTTY are 10 times better to work in contests. So, so much 
> more pleasant on the brain and ears! SSB turned out even better of an 
> improvement than I guessed there would have been. Lots more flexibility in RX 
> tweaking with NR/AGC/RX EQ and roofing filters band width for all modes than 
> was capable with PROIII. It used to be if I could hear them I could work 
> them. Now I'm finding, I can hear more than I can work, quickly! I have found 
> another layer or two that was always there but couldn't hear. 
> It all comes down to what you "gotta have" for your operating style. For me 
> the gotta haves were better RX filtering/flexibility, P3 to see the band, 100 
> watts and antenna tuner, and able to get all the sound card cables and 
> interface stuff out of the way. 
>   
> BTW, PROIII's are still holding value pretty well. I don't think their value 
> will change much between now and spring. Although, if you have another rig to 
> keep you on the air till then, you could sell now just to make sure. 
> I purchased my PROIII used in 2009 and could have sold it for a bit more than 
> I paid, but ended up selling it to my son for a little less. They are holding 
> value, "I think" due to the price tag of newer rigs hitting the market, 
> keeping the price tag somewhat inflated for the older rigs with attractive 
> functionality, IMHO. 
>   
> You will not regret a K3 or K3S. 
>   
> 73 and good luck! 
>   
> Gene, N9TF 
>   
> K3S 10057 
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: w...@flashdog.us 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 1:10:56 PM 
> Subject: [Elecraft] IC-756 ProIII & K3S 
> 
> Hello Everyone, 
> 
> I am considering selling my Icom IC-756 ProIII, with Inrad roofing filter, to 
> help pay for a future K3S. While at the moment I am somewhat inactive, due to 
> work and my remodeling of my home,  I don’t see myself getting a K3S until 
> Spring. 
> 
> However, I the more I wait, the more the ProIII the value declines. I still 
> have another rig to use. 
> 
> Question:  In replacing the ProIII, what would be the best most economical 
> add ons to the K3S? I really like the fact that the Pro III has the “Dual 
> Watch” feature and I use a multi-band antenna via Icom remote antenna “tuner” 
> (AH-4). I would to use the K3S with an SGC coupler (I think I’ve read that 
> you can program the K3 to provide 10 watts to “tune” the antenna). 
> 
> I”d like to hear from anyone who has gone from the Pro III to the K3 or K3S 
> and get their advice (all others are welcome, too). 
> 
> Tnx & 73, 
> 
> Jeff 
> wb0m 
> Nebraska 
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Re: [Elecraft] Product Idea for Elecraft

[David Cole]

Not sure what other tuners you are using, but my LDG AT1000- PROII, and
every other LDG tuner I have owned, takes about 3 seconds to tune a
pretuned frequency.
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On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 14:01 -0400, Jose Rivera wrote:
> Elecraft makes the most excellent antenna tuners. Of all the antenna tuners I 
> own (MFJ, LDG), the tuner in
> my KX3 is the best!! My KX3 tuner will tune anything in one or two seconds. 
> My other tuners take anywhere
> from 15-30 seconds to tune the same antennas.
> 
>  
> 
> So here is my suggestion to Elecraft - Make a standalone 100 watt antenna 
> tuner!! I think it would sell
> well. Not only for our Elecraft Radios, but mostly for all those poor 
> unfortunate souls, who don't have
> Elecraft radios.
> 
>  
> 
> Jose
> 
> N2LRB
> 
>  
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire labeling - slightly OT

[David Cole]

and clear heat shrink...
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On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 22:18 +0200, F5vjc wrote:
> Brother P-Touch labels.
> 
> 73,  Deni - F5VJC
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[David Cole]

That is Elecraft's way of reminding you that you have not selected an
option yet...  :)
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On Sun, 2015-08-30 at 19:29 -0700, Barry wrote:
 I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.  I'm
 presented with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class.  It
 says Dirst Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for
 the board.  Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost as
 $999.00 :-)
 
 Can 2 boards be shipped First Class or are they greater than 14 oz with
 packaging?
 If so, what is the most cost-effective shipping method within the US (CA to
 CO, specifically)?
 
 Tnx,
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Re: [Elecraft] Why K3's are on most DXpeditions

[David Cole]

Guy is correct, I have a ham living about 700 feet from me, and when he
opens up with his KW, my old Icom used to die...  The K3 does not even
let me know he is on if he is beyond 10 to 20 KHz.  Only way I can tell
is a HUGE spike in the P3 at his operating frequency.

I did a very informal set of tests located at


http://nk7z.net/wiki/elecraft-k3-macros/elecraft-k3-xlr-to-radio/elecraft-k3-new-synthesizer/


using the P3, and looking at the new synths, as compared to the old
synths.  The screen shots show how very tight the K3 really is when
placed next to a strong signal...




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On Fri, 2015-08-21 at 10:53 -0400, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 PVRC contest club members have known this very useful fact for quite a
 few years now. Our 3A North Carolina field day group (N4C this year)
 goes to 100% K3 on HF bands for field day so that we can have both CW
 and SSB going on the same band. We never hear the other TX on the
 band. Not even a little keyed hiss. Just plain NOTHING heard from the
 other TX on the band. We do take precaution to minimize coupling
 between two antennas on the same band. Don't want to burn anything up.
 
 M/M, M/2, M/S experience in many contests also return like results.
 
 Light, portable, relatively minimal power use, extremely remearkably
 clean TX signal, everyone now knows how to use K3's and is familiar
 with the front panel.  There's always enough K3's available, including
 a spare or two just in case. What's not to like.
 
 Not conjecture. Not KoolAid. Heading toward a decade of experiential
 proof from pedal to the metal contesting. Stainless steel plain
 indisputable facts.
 
 We're now waiting to see just how close we can get two 3A syn K3's,
 K3S, side by side on CW on the same band. That would be the typical
 run and S/P two operator  K3 complement per band in major multi TX
 setups. CQWWDX contests this fall will tell the story.
 
 This is where the improvements are not at all theoretical and have
 direct bearing on successful operations. Maybe doesn't apply to the
 ham who only uses the radio to talk to Uncle Elmer on 75m at 10 pm on
 75m SSB. Crush it to the wall WFO contest operators are another story.
 Like NASCAR drivers doing things to tires Aunt Matilda would never do
 with her Ford Falcon.
 
 Big difference is that I can't afford NASCAR grade cars, but I CAN afford a 
 K3.
 
 73, Guy K2AV
 
 On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:54 AM,  ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
  The illuminating facts are that the K3/S is selected because multiple radios
  operating in a close area don't interfere where other brands apparently do.
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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

[David Cole]

I tend to agree with Steve here...  My insurance agent said almost the
same thing...  Don't call in your home owners unless you really need
too...

Also, given that I believe the ARRL insurance seems to cover stupidity,
(you spill water in your rig it pays off), the fee is not all that
bad.  

I had a rider on my home owners policy for a rather expensive telescope
I once owned a few decades ago, and the cost was about the same, it was
also a stupidity coverage type of policy.  So given that the policy just
pays off for almost anything, I would expect it to be higher than
normal.  I will be getting ARRL insurance for my rig.

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On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 17:43 -0400, Steven Stuckey wrote:
 My homeowners insurance stated The ARRL insurance is a really good deal.
 If you have a claim on your ham radio equipment it would be against your
 policy and rates may be affected. While the ARRL insurance would not be
 affected by more than one claim. We strongly suggest you buy the ARRL
 insurance. Which I have done. Did you know the ARRL insurance (last
 checked 2014 before the new company took over) will cover everything and
 anything related to ham radio? You can insure coax, antennas, towers,
 connectors, rigs, computers, all accessories even concrete, radials and
 grounding. So if you want to insure the whole thing you can. If you get hit
 by lightening and it ruins your tower, antenna, concrete, grounding, rig,
 computer and anything else you only pay $50 per incident of not repairable.
 Even if it was $50 per item that is still a large savings. I believe it is
 well worth it. My 2 cents worth.
 ​73​
 
 Steven Stuckey - AC9GK - Indiana
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Re: [Elecraft] Rig Insurance

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I guess I am not quite as cynical as you.
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On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 19:26 -0700, Hank Garretson wrote:
 My insurance agent said almost the same thing...
 
 
 Of course an insurance agent would say that. It is to his advantage to have
 clients who don't make claims.
 
 73,
 
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Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a K3/K3S purchase?

[David Cole]

I still have both my HP-45, and 55 both still working!  Use them
exclusively, and both are RPN only!
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On Mon, 2015-08-03 at 23:04 -0400, Barry Baines wrote:
 Fred:
 
 I’m still using a HP-41 and I still have a functional HP-45 (works off the 
 power supply).  RPN works for me…
 
 FWIW, if you have an Apple iPhone, you can also get an app that provides a 
 full emulation of the HP-41.  It works very well with the look and feel of 
 the HP-41 and it allows me to have a “HP-41 with me all the time.  The app 
 is named “i41CX-RPN Calculator” from AL Software.  There is also a version 
 that has a printer function as well.  Check the Apple Store or the 
 developer’s website (http://alsoftiphone.com) for more information if 
 interested…
 
 
 73,
 
 Barry Baines
 WD4ASW
 
 
  On Aug 3, 2015, at 10:48 PM, k6dgw k6...@foothill.net wrote:
  
  
  
  While nowhere near the saddest day in my life, when I realized the keypad 
  on my HP41X was terminal, and there was no way to replace it,I sprang for 
  an HP 48GX,. While it's RPN, only Calc I can use anymore, I ve never really 
  understood it.
  That 41 was perfect, usable even if you didn't have the book with you.  
  Sort of like a K3.
  73,
  Fred K6DGW Sparks NV 
  
  
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
  
   Original message 
  From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com 
  Date: 08/03/2015  14:48  (GMT-08:00) 
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a
   K3/K3S purchase? 
  
  On Mon,8/3/2015 2:22 PM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
 But I spent the past 40 years working with computers and I don't want 
  one in my shack.
  
  Hi David,
  It was my second programmable 
  computer -- my first, about four years earlier, was an HP41.
  
  73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a K3/K3S purchase?

[David Cole]

Clearly this thread has run its course, and new ideas are invading!  :)
Perhaps it is time for the thread to die...
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On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 09:22 -0700, Phil Wheeler wrote:
 So using an RPN calculator gives you remorse over 
 buying a K3? Or over not buying one?
 
 I like my K3 and using RPN :-)
 
 Phil W7OX
 
 On 8/4/15, 8:55 AM, Mark Bayern wrote:
  ... and for an RPN calculator on Android there is RealCalc. It
  defaults to that odd mode that uses an equal sign, but the first item
  in the Setting menu is an opportunity to set it to RPN ... then the
  keyboard changes to a proper calculator.  It has no programmability,
  but it is a fine RPN calculator.
 
  Mark  AD5SS  ... still miss my 41CX at times
 
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Barry Baines bbai...@mac.com wrote:
  Fred:
 
  I’m still using a HP-41 and I still have a functional HP-45 (works off the 
  power supply).  RPN works for me…
 
  FWIW, if you have an Apple iPhone, you can also get an app that provides a 
  full emulation of the HP-41.  It works very well with the look and feel of 
  the HP-41 and it allows me to have a “HP-41 with me all the time.  The 
  app is named “i41CX-RPN Calculator” from AL Software.  There is also a 
  version that has a printer function as well.  Check the Apple Store or the 
  developer’s website (http://alsoftiphone.com) for more information if 
  interested…
 
 
  73,
 
  Barry Baines
  WD4ASW
 
 
  On Aug 3, 2015, at 10:48 PM, k6dgw k6...@foothill.net wrote:
 
 
 
  While nowhere near the saddest day in my life, when I realized the keypad 
  on my HP41X was terminal, and there was no way to replace it,I sprang for 
  an HP 48GX,. While it's RPN, only Calc I can use anymore, I ve never 
  really understood it.
  That 41 was perfect, usable even if you didn't have the book with you.  
  Sort of like a K3.
  73,
  Fred K6DGW Sparks NV
 
 
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
 
   Original message 
  From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
  Date: 08/03/2015  14:48  (GMT-08:00)
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse 
  on a
K3/K3S purchase?
 
  On Mon,8/3/2015 2:22 PM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
  But I spent the past 40 years working with computers and I don't 
  want one in my shack.
  Hi David,
  It was my second programmable
  computer -- my first, about four years earlier, was an HP41.
 
  73, Jim K9YC
 
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Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a K3/K3S purchase?

[David Cole]

Done, and thanks!
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On Mon, 2015-08-03 at 08:37 -0700, Matt Zilmer wrote:
 Dave,
 
 Look in the owner's manual for CONFIG: AF LIM.  This function will
 limit audio out when AGC is disabled.  I run mine around 20.
 
 It will save your hearing!
 
 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a K3/K3S purchase?

[David Cole]

Thanks Matt, I will look at it!
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On Tue, 2015-08-04 at 03:31 +, Matt Maguire wrote:
 A better solution than disabling AGC altogether may be to customize it
 to your needs. The K3 AGC is very configurable. The following article
 on Don's webpage is very informative:
 http://www.w3fpr.com/K3_AGC.htm
 
 
 Also, I would suggest checking out Fred Cady's book on K3 or KX3. I'd
 be quite surprised if Fred didn't do a full write-up on AGC
 configuration, together with some nice diagrams.
 
 73, Matt VK2RQ
 
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:38 AM -0700, Matt Zilmer
 mzil...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 
 Dave,
 
 Look in the owner's manual for CONFIG: AF LIM.  This function will
 limit audio out when AGC is disabled.  I run mine around 20.
 
 It will save your hearing!
 
 73,
 matt
 W6NIA
 
 
 On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:14:36 -0700, you wrote:
 
 Jerry,
 
 I don't regret selling my 756 PRO III, and replacing it with the K3 
 one
 bit!  
 
 My only complaint about the rig is the dynamic range in the audio
 section... If I have the AGC off, and one of my neighbors comes up
 within my passband, my ears get nailed big time...  There needs to 
 be an
 audio limiter on my rig...  
 
 Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
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Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a K3/K3S purchase?

[David Cole]

Jerry,

I don't regret selling my 756 PRO III, and replacing it with the K3 one
bit!  

The K3 is a much more versatile rig.  Not as pretty as the old Pro III,
(not as large either, which is a plus), but I don't really care about
pretty, I care about performance, and I have an entire new layer of
stations I hear now, that I did not with the Pro III...

Also, there are so many ways to configure the radio you will be able to
configure it for what ever your needs are...  Here is a few examples...

The K3 allows for setting the TUNE output level.  I have an auto tuner.
That tuner needs less than 100 watts to trigger autotune.  I have an
ALS-1306 amp, I set the TUNE level on the K3 to be 3 watts.  That 3
watts drives the tuner via the ALS-1306 Amp with enough power from the
ALS-1306 to force the tuner into retune mode if above 1.7:1. Thus I get
the equivalent of a tuner connected to the radio TUNE button, and do so
without any extra cables...  Single button tuning of the AMP, and the
tuner, all in under 10 seconds.

Most settings are per band, so I configure things, for each band, and
mode, and when I return the configurations return for each band/mode...

I thought the P3 was just a frill, it is not...  I removed it for a bit
to test some radio control hardware I am working on, and almost lost my
mind without it, I did not have a picture of the band in my head anymore
without the P3...  

So, no, I never looked back after selling the Pro III.  Prior to the
change over for me, I sat both rigs on the desk, and A/B compared them
for a week, using the exact same antennas, before I sold the Pro III, I
had expected to test for a month to make my decision, it took only a
week to decide.  

I was ready and willing to sell the K3 if it was not significantly
better, I have the K3, and not the Icom now!

I have a ham 700 feet away from me, and when he runs his K3 and his KW
Henry amp, I can't tell he is on if I am 20 KHz away...  The PRO III
desensed on his signal, across the entire band, if he was on SSB, and I
wan on CW, I could see, and hear it...  So again, I am so very happy I
have the K3 I would never go back.  If you want to see exactly how wide
the is looking at at 2 watts from 700 feet away see:

http://nk7z.net/wiki/elecraft-k3-macros/elecraft-k3-xlr-to-radio/elecraft-k3-new-synthesizer/

I did a compare of the old and new Synthesizers, and as an aside, it
will show you just how tight the K3 really is in strong signal
conditions.  

I have four hams within a half mile of me.  I really can't tell if they
are on, unless I get very close in frequency, (like under 10 KHz.), or
see them on the P3.

My only complaint about the rig is the dynamic range in the audio
section... If I have the AGC off, and one of my neighbors comes up
within my passband, my ears get nailed big time...  There needs to be an
audio limiter on my rig...  

Macro programming is nice, you can pretty much do anything you want with
the rig via Macros...  I have macros that totally set up my rig based on
the mode I select via software.  If I select RTTY, using MixW, the
macros fires for MODE START, and the radio is switched into DATA/RTTY
mode, transmit levels levels set, monitor levels set, etc, all
automatic.  I almost never touch the radio now, but to tune, or adjust
RF/Audio levels.  When I switch to PSK the same thing happens only for
PSK.  So nope, I am happy as can be with the rig...  Have fun, I am with
my K3!

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On Mon, 2015-08-03 at 08:59 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote:
 Just asking. It's a lot of money but appears to be a lot of radio. It's not
 as flashy as some.
 
  
 
 Just a lot to think about as I save up.
 
 Jer
 
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Re: [Elecraft] I wonder how many folks have had buyers remorse on a K3/K3S purchase?

[David Cole]

Same here Mike, best rig I have ever owned, and well worth the cost.
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On Mon, 2015-08-03 at 08:59 -0700, Mike Flowers wrote:
 Let me just add my 'Amen' to Dave's comments.  
 
 I went from an IC-756 Pro III to a K3 in 2012 and now run the full K-Line.  
 
 For me, the K3 is the best rig I've run in my 47 years on the air, and my 
 only regret is that I didn't get a K3 sooner. 
 
 -- Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - It's about DX!
 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KX3 Memory Editing Utility (revisited yet again)

[David Cole]

My guess would be that a different program author wrote it...  :)
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On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 15:58 -0700, Phil Hystad wrote:
 I have followed previous discussions on the memory editor issues (no support 
 for Mac, etc.) but I missed the answer to the big, big question.
 
 The big question is:  why is it that the existing Elecraft supported K3 and 
 KX3 utilities do not include a memory editing page built in and supported as 
 a mainline feature.
 
 Seems to be a no-brainer to me.  I would expect Eric or Wayne to say “Yah, we 
 need that in our utility programs, let’s do it”.
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 memory editor

[David Cole]

Chris,
I can get it to work some...  Use the little squares on the left to do
the cut, then use the actual data entry field to do the paste...  

Not sure what Elecraft did for cut and paste, but it does not work as I
would expect it to work either.
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On Mon, 2015-07-20 at 14:29 +1000, Chris Meagher wrote:
 Using the memory editor, cut and paste does not work
 on my 'spreadsheet'. Not via toolbar or menu or keyboard control c  v
 Clues anyone?
 Chris VK2ACD   K2 K3 KX3 etc
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Re: [Elecraft] Access to the back of the K3

[David Cole]

Hi Bob,
When I got my K3 I decided to totally rebuild much as you did...  Desk
is movable, and uses hangers for the cabling...  

See:
http://nk7z.net/rebuilding-the-shack/

for photos of the back of the desk, not just the front...
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On Sun, 2015-07-19 at 23:40 -0400, Bob Bennett via Elecraft wrote:
 I saw the comment about the rats nest of wires we have behind out 
 equipment. Based on convention, people normally put their tables up 
 against the walls. I have my tables 18 from the walls. This gives me 
 enough room to go behind to fiddle with the wires, which I seem to do 
 every few days.
 
 Just sharing.
 
 Bob/nz2z
 
 
 
 On 7/19/15 10:51 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
  Last week, I made some internal changes to the K3  and also added an
  external USB data interface device for RTTY.  What's apparent is that 
  cable
  management is getting way out of control.  To gain inside access to the K3
  almost requires a meditation exercise before going in.  Consider that a 
  PR6
  is mounted to the back of the K3.  The rear of the K3 is an absolute rat's
  nest of cabling.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Proposed On-topic indication.

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Speaking of list cop, thank you for deciding what is not necessary as
a topic  Just saying...
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On Fri, 2015-07-17 at 11:29 -0400, John Payne wrote:
 Come on guys, 18 messages related to a topic that is not even necessary 
 if the one complaining had just used that wonderful invention called the 
 delete key instead of trying to be a list cop.  No offense 
 intended,  just saying...
 
 W4CWZ
 
 On 7/16/2015 11:58 PM, David Cole wrote:
  guy,
 
  Your assumption that I was complaining is in error.  I was pointing out
  that the stated, only viable option was in fact not the only viable
  option...
 
  I suspect everyone here knows it is Elecraft's list...
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Proposed On-topic indication.

[David Cole]

guy,

Your assumption that I was complaining is in error.  I was pointing out
that the stated, only viable option was in fact not the only viable
option... 

I suspect everyone here knows it is Elecraft's list...


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On Thu, 2015-07-16 at 23:20 -0400, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 Lot of folks get in here and complain about stuff.  We just need to
 remember one thing: IT'S NOT OUR LIST.  
 
 
 It's Eric's list. 
 
 
 If you don't like something going on, as he has requested and posted
 many, many times, COMPLAIN DIRECTLY TO ERIC. (e...@elecraft.com)  His
 email address does, in fact, actually work. Whether he will agree with
 you and/or do something is a separate matter.
 
 
 Convince him and he might change something. Otherwise, it's his front
 yard, not ours. We are but invited guests.
 
 
 73, Guy K2AV.
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:48 PM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote:
 No that is not the only viable answer to this...  I moderate
 three lists
 on Yahoo, MixW, MMSSTV, and Dopplergrams...  All are open
 posting, and
 none of them go as far astray as this list does...
 
 The moderator needs to crack the whip is all..

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No that is not the only viable answer to this...  I moderate three lists
on Yahoo, MixW, MMSSTV, and Dopplergrams...  All are open posting, and
none of them go as far astray as this list does...  

The moderator needs to crack the whip is all..

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On Thu, 2015-07-16 at 12:57 -0700, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
 The only viable solution for this is to make this a moderated list.
 
 That means that someone (probably Eric) would read and review every 
 single post before it goes out to the rest of us.
 
 We don't want that, do we?
 
 It's far easier if everyone just follow the rules in the list charter.  
 Doesn't seem like too much to ask.
 
 73 -- Lynn
 
 On 7/16/2015 12:34 PM, Tom Schaefer wrote:
  In light of the flagrant inclusion of off-topic material on this list 
  (including this), I propose that everyone start adding an On-topic 
  indication to their subject line for things that are actually about 
  Elecraft. That way those of us that want to read only things related to the 
  list for which we subscribed, can avoid every random thought someone things 
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[Elecraft] New Synthsysers testing..

[David Cole]

Hi,

I have added a bit more information to the pages which show the new vs.
old synthesizer differences.  Just some clarification comments is all.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Upgrade or replace

[David Cole]

Bill,
For your usage, I would not even worry about replacing the K3 with a
K3S.  Just upgrade the synthesizer, and that is about all you will need
for Rag Chewing, etc...  Now, if you decide to start hunting DX, etc,
then you might start to worry...  

I have a comparison between the old and new synthesizers at:

http://nk7z.net/wiki/elecraft-k3-macros/elecraft-k3-xlr-to-radio/elecraft-k3-new-synthesizer/

using P3 screen shots to show what happens before and after new
synthesizers are added to two different K3 rigs, at two different
stations, with antenna about 700 feet apart.


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On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 09:07 -0400, Bill wrote:
 After reading all the posts about the improvements that can be made now 
 (and in the near future) to the K3, I find it difficult to decide 
 between a new K3S or to add the upgrades as they become available. I 
 have not set a list of improvement vs. costs to pen and paper yet ().
 
 I am not a DXer or contester - merely a rag chewer on 75 and 40. I am 
 fortunate, as my ambient noise lever here is well under 1 S unit. I use 
 external Behringer amplified speakers and have made many adjustments to 
 the EQ and other settings.
 
 The K3 is by far the best receiver I have used in over 55 years of being 
 on the air. I have to wonder what I will gain with a new K3S, making the 
 upgrades to the K3 as they become available, or just continue as I am. 
 Money is not the object, but I don't spend if there is nothing to be gained.
 
 I am thinking I am not alone in making this decision, although other 
 ham's use and circumstances may differ.
 
 Bill W2BLC K-Line
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Observation on new Synthesizers for K3

[David Cole]

Al,

Let me pose a set of conditions, and see if I understand this...

Is the smearing caused mostly by the phase noise sidebands, as a
resultant of phase flicker?  

i.e. If the phase noise were reduced on a transmitting VFO, then the
smearing would also be reduced, because the sidebands would no longer
reflect the wide band phase noise, as-- well-- sidebands?  Is this
correct?

If so, then does that mean that as a station gets stronger, one picks up
more of the phase noise, (a function of how far from center one is), and
that is why a signal gets wider as it gets stronger?  

It occurs to me that the the the RX VFO phase noise would be less
influencing, (on phase noise sidebands), than the transmit VFO phase
noise...  Is that correct?

If so, then that would explain why the largest change occurred when
K7OLN got his new synthesizer, as opposed to me getting my new
synthesizer, as shown in the difference between photos 2 and 3.  

Is my understanding correct?

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On Wed, 2015-07-08 at 05:14 +, Al Lorona wrote:
 We like to think that a VFO exists only at one frequency -- the
 frequency on the receiver display.
 
 
 But in reality every VFO has width, and it occupies not only it's
 nominal frequency but is smeared both lower and higher in frequency,
 too. This is because of the phase noise of the synthesizer or VFO.
 
 
 Because of the smearing effect of this phase noise, received signals
 can also appear wider than they are. The noise floor on either side
 rises in direct proportion to the synthesizer's phase noise. Dave's
 screenshots of the P3 spectrograms show this smearing clearly.
 
 
 An oscillator with less phase noise looks more like that ideal picture
 we all have in our heads -- of a signal that's infinitely narrow. In
 the third of Dave's screenshots you can see how the new synths are
 closer to an ideal oscillator-- the CW signal's width on the
 spectrogram is much narrower. 
 
 
 If a signal has lower noise sidebands (whether the sidebands are
 generated in the transmitter or the receiver... each of them has a
 synthesizer) then you can enjoy less interference from an adjacent
 signal. You will also *cause* less interference to your neighbors on
 the band.
 
 
 I have no idea of the design of the new synths, but in general to
 design a synthesizer with low phase noise you have to start with very
 low noise devices, pay really careful attention to the parts of the
 phase-locked loop like the Q, feedback, the numeric dithering, the
 loop filter and various other aspects of the circuit. It's a real art.
 It appears from Dave's observations that there is a significant and
 measurable difference.
 
 
 
 
 Al W6LX
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Observation on new Synthesizers for K3

[David Cole]

Hi,
Thanks, I need to think about this a bit prior to commenting on it. :)
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On Wed, 2015-07-08 at 10:20 -0400, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 Hi, Dave.
 
 
 Well, there is one thing you did not do.  A fourth condition, which
 would be difficult, a lot more work given what you were doing. That
 would be changing his syn first and noting the difference. It might be
 that the TX change first would create a different middle picture in
 the series. But I doubt it... 
 
 
 These are not linear additive behaviors, and explaining noise
 reduction from various sources is often very complex. The appearance
 in the *frequency span* of the heavy continuous noise is cut in half
 in the middle picture and then cut in half again in the third. That
 would appear that the combining is a multiplicative function. The
 difference at a given frequency would then be completely a child of
 the shape of the noise curve, rendering the reduction at some
 frequencies as an effectiveness measure pretty meaningless. 
 
 
 Noting that the heavy noise bandwidth is halved and then halved again
 presents a better assessment. By that measure the changes are equally
 effective.
 
 
 73, Guy
 
 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:02 AM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote:
 Al,
 
 Let me pose a set of conditions, and see if I understand
 this...
 
 Is the smearing caused mostly by the phase noise sidebands, as
 a
 resultant of phase flicker?
 
 i.e. If the phase noise were reduced on a transmitting VFO,
 then the
 smearing would also be reduced, because the sidebands would no
 longer
 reflect the wide band phase noise, as-- well-- sidebands?  Is
 this
 correct?
 
 If so, then does that mean that as a station gets stronger,
 one picks up
 more of the phase noise, (a function of how far from center
 one is), and
 that is why a signal gets wider as it gets stronger?
 
 It occurs to me that the the the RX VFO phase noise would be
 less
 influencing, (on phase noise sidebands), than the transmit VFO
 phase
 noise...  Is that correct?
 
 If so, then that would explain why the largest change occurred
 when
 K7OLN got his new synthesizer, as opposed to me getting my new
 synthesizer, as shown in the difference between photos 2 and
 3.
 
 Is my understanding correct?
 
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 On Wed, 2015-07-08 at 05:14 +, Al Lorona wrote:
  We like to think that a VFO exists only at one frequency --
 the
  frequency on the receiver display.
 
 
  But in reality every VFO has width, and it occupies not only
 it's
  nominal frequency but is smeared both lower and higher in
 frequency,
  too. This is because of the phase noise of the synthesizer
 or VFO.
 
 
  Because of the smearing effect of this phase noise, received
 signals
  can also appear wider than they are. The noise floor on
 either side
  rises in direct proportion to the synthesizer's phase noise.
 Dave's
  screenshots of the P3 spectrograms show this smearing
 clearly.
 
 
  An oscillator with less phase noise looks more like that
 ideal picture
  we all have in our heads -- of a signal that's infinitely
 narrow. In
  the third of Dave's screenshots you can see how the new
 synths are
  closer to an ideal oscillator-- the CW signal's width on the
  spectrogram is much narrower.
 
 
  If a signal has lower noise sidebands (whether the sidebands
 are
  generated in the transmitter or the receiver... each of them
 has a
  synthesizer) then you can enjoy less interference from an
 adjacent
  signal. You will also *cause* less interference to your
 neighbors on
  the band.
 
 
  I have no idea of the design of the new synths, but in
 general to
  design

Re: [Elecraft] Observation on new Synthesizers for K3

[David Cole]

My most active neighbor, (I have 5 hams in less than 1/2 mile from me),
runs an Icom 706MKII G, that is a real POS if I have ever seen one... 

It takes out most of the band when he is on, and running 100W, as
opposed to the K7OLN's K3, (750 feet form me), when running a KW and I
am able to operate 10-15 KHz away from the K3 at K7OLNs place.

The images at:
http://nk7z.net/wiki/elecraft-k3-macros/elecraft-k3-xlr-to-radio/elecraft-k3-new-synthesizer/
tell the story of why I got my K3...
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On Wed, 2015-07-08 at 09:34 -0700, Jim Brown wrote:
 On Wed,7/8/2015 9:04 AM, Alan wrote:
  By the way, a corollary to this is that it doesn't help much to 
  improve the phase noise of your radio if your neighbor's radio is dirty.
 
 I can testify to that!  My neighbor 8 miles away runs an IC7600. Real POS.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Observation on new Synthesizers for K3

[David Cole]

Hello,

I had what I believe to be a unique opportunity to test the new
synthesizer in a high signal level environment, under some controlled
conditions.  

K7OLN lives about 750 feet from me, and we both have static antenna
setups, and because he is running WSPR K7OLN also has static power
levels for these tests.  

The three test states are as follows:

1.  The first P3 capture is K7OLN's K3, using the old synthesizer, as
received on my K3 using an old synthesizer.

2.  The second P3 capture is of K7OLN, using the same equipment on both
ends, save the new synthesizer on my rig only, and received on my K3.

3.  The third P3 capture is after K7OLN upgraded his K3 to the new
synthesizer, with both radios using the new synthesizer.

I have a personal Wiki, and have published the data there at:

http://nk7z.net/wiki/elecraft-k3-macros/elecraft-k3-xlr-to-radio/elecraft-k3-new-synthesizer/

Not scientific, but close...  As can be seen the new synthesizers make a
BIG difference.  Bigger than I would have thought!  THANK YOU
ELECRAFT!  

K7OLN's purchase of a K3, (I want my Hat Elecraft!), made it such that
both he and I can operate on the same band, in the same segment, as
close as 10 to 15 KHz away from each other and not even know the other
station is there, save the HUGE spike in the P3, (which is supposed to
be there), all while at KW power levels for both of us.


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Re: [Elecraft] Observation on new Synthesizers for K3

[David Cole]

Hi,
I would be interested in a detailed explanation as to why things are
tighter with the new synths, as opposed to the old ones as well...
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On Wed, 2015-07-08 at 00:31 -0400, Robert Clark wrote:
 Interesting reading. What does the synthesizer actually do? How is the new 
 one better than the old one?
 
 NJ4J
 
 Robert W. Clark
 Executive Director
 Center for Personnel Development In CTE
 Temple University
 Philadelphia, Pa
 
  On Jul 7, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
  
  David and all,
  
  Eric's words at his early morning presentation at FDIM (Dayton) were that 
  the improvement surprised everyone at Elecraft - the results were much 
  better than expected.  So all K3 owners can benefit from that part of the 
  K3S development.
  
  73,
  Don W3FPR
  
  On 7/7/2015 6:32 PM, David Cole wrote:
  Not scientific, but close...  As can be seen the new synthesizers make a
  BIG difference.  Bigger than I would have thought!  THANK YOU
  ELECRAFT!
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control

[David Cole]

Robin,

A quick question...  If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
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On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 22:36 +0100, Robin Moseley wrote:
 Hi ,
 I will be working for HRD as a European support guy.
 
 The way it works  is .. you try HRD for 30 days for free.
 If you like it, you pay once only  for the version you tried  and for 
 upgrades for 12 months, you also get customer support from 3 dedicated 
 support guys and developers.
 If you are happy with the version you are running, and don't need support or 
 updates, then  you don't need to keep paying,  you have bought the license 
 for the software.
 
 If you decide that you want the full features of the latest versions, 
 support for new radios, windows operating systems etc, country list updates 
 and another 12 months of the support team, then it is half the original 
 purchase price per year.. so that is just under $50.
 
 Robin G1MHU
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control

[David Cole]

Hi Dick,

Just checking to see if the HRD software package can be rendered broken
by outside parties without a free update, after a year of ownership has
passed.  

HRD itself is free to update, or not update, as they see fit, I
understand that.  

I am not suggesting that they must update, but rather asking the
question-- would they update for free, if the software became useless
for reasons out of their control, and after a year of ownership.  

Useless being defined as some major part being broken, like LoTW, or
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On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 06:38 -0700, Richard Solomon wrote:
 Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once 
 
 If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
 control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.
 
 They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.
 
 73, Dick, W1KSZ
 
 On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
  Robin,
 
  A quick question...  If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
  format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
  ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
  have to pay for an update to get the correction?
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control

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On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 11:24 -0400, HRD Support wrote:
 In cases like this, fixes are free for the current version.
 
 New features are what are going to be charged.
 
 Bug fixes are free for the lifetime of the product.
 
 
 
  On Jun 13, 2015, at 09:38, Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.net wrote:
  
  Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once 
  
  If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
  control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.
  
  They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.
  
  73, Dick, W1KSZ
  
  On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
  Robin,
  
  A quick question...  If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
  format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
  ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
  have to pay for an update to get the correction?
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control

[David Cole]

Hi Joe,

I am comfortable with the answer I got from the vendor...  They support
things for the current version...  Looks like they are taking the
Microsoft model, support current version.


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On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 10:54 -0400, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 I doubt that *any* software company will guarantee free support for
 changes by third party companies/organizations (particularly since
 some companies like QRZ.com seem to make changes just to break third
 party software on a regular basis).
 
 In a fee for support model like HRD, LLC., free updates for any change
 in third party hardware/software would be economic suicide.
 
 73,
 
 ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 2015-06-13 10:30 AM, David Cole wrote:
  Hi Dick,
 
  Just checking to see if the HRD software package can be rendered broken
  by outside parties without a free update, after a year of ownership has
  passed.
 
  HRD itself is free to update, or not update, as they see fit, I
  understand that.
 
  I am not suggesting that they must update, but rather asking the
  question-- would they update for free, if the software became useless
  for reasons out of their control, and after a year of ownership.
 
  Useless being defined as some major part being broken, like LoTW, or
  K3 controls...
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Linux rig control

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Hi,
If you have a copy of Windows, try Virtual Box.
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On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 09:05 -0700, Matt Zilmer wrote:
 My mistake.  Fldigi and Flarq are both running under Ubuntu directly.
 The ppa that Kamal Mostafa runs has very stable Linux versions.
 
 I'm all hung up on getting wine to run M110A, and I'm stuck on that.
 
 Sorry for the confusion.
 
 73,
 matt
 W6NIA
 
 On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:12:29 -0600, you wrote:
 
 It would make a lot more sense to run fldigi directly under ubuntu 
 rather adding in the complex layer of wine.
 
 flrig is a very simple rig control program - but it does work very well 
 running on ubuntu variants and most other distros.
 
 73, Doug -- K0DXV
 
 On 6/3/15 7:46 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
  This isn't a direct answer to your question, Bill.  It does address
  the Linux issue to some extent.
 
  I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 here and have Fldigi up and running under
  Wine.  I'm working on getting MSDMT going now.  Tht is a software
  modem / terminal program  used for Army MARS message transfer on HF.
 
  With Fldigi, everything is working fine and it is as stable as Fldigi
  gets.  This setup runs using a Creative Labs EMU 0202.  I have to run
  the program via sudo because otherwise Fldigi can't get access to the
  sound unit.
 
  M110A is set up differently (for the present), so I can't run it as
  su.  So the EMU sound unit isn't visible, though the COM port works
  fine.  I'm slowly working this out.
 
  For just plain old rig control, you might try DM780 by itself under
  wine.  it only requires a COM port to operate the K3.  You have to set
  up the COM port under the dos_devices folder withing ~/.wine, I
  believe.  There are different web pages describing the how to for
  serial ports under wine.
 
  73,
  matt
  W6NIA / AAR9CD
 
  On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:21:29 -0400, you wrote:
 
  I am looking for Linux software to control the K3. Currently I use an
  old version of HRD - which basically does what I want. HRD is a no go
  under Wine. I am totally uninterested in logging apps and similar - only
  desire rig control.
 
  At this point I am running Linux Mint 17 on one machine and Win 10
  Preview on another.  Win 10 is filled with features - as in bloatware -
  that I do not need nor want. However, there are a few programs that I
  run that are Windows only types and have no serious clones available for
  Linux. HRD is one of these.
 
  Any suggestions? My goal is to run only a single system - Linux or
  Windows. It makes it too fiddly to run two full systems. Dual boot and
  VMware solutions have been explored and dismissed. Rig control would go
  a long way toward making the change to Linux only.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] SeaPac and HamCom booth help

[David Cole]

Hi,
I may be able to spend a pair of hours at Sea-Pac on Saturday...

Dave Cole
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On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 18:57 -0700, Lisa Jones - Elecraft Sales wrote:
 Elecraft will be attending both SeaPac in Seaside OR June 6-7 and
 
 HamCom in Irving TX June 12-13
 
 We would greatly appreciate any booth help that any of may be able to 
 provide at either show.
 
 If you are attending either show and would like to help our for a few 
 hours either day then please email me directl so that I can have a 
 volunteer badge ready for you.
 
 Thank you,
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Advice on software

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Mike,
I use MixW, and like it.  I have a review of it here:
http://nk7z.net/review-of-mixw-multimode-software/

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On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 03:31 +, k3...@comcast.net wrote:
 Mike, 
 I used FLDIGI or MIXW. Both are quite good. You don't need to worry about 
 radio control beyond PTT. I was using a SigaLink PSK for the interface and it 
 worked well. I have a KX3 these days and I use both the internal PSK cap, 
 abilities of the KX3 and FLDIGI. I go with what is the most convenient at the 
 moment; I still have my SignaLink PSK. 
 
 How you go will depend on what other software you use. I use Ham Radio Deluxe 
 and some radio control software. It's easy for me to go anyway I want. BTW: 
 Ham Radio Deluxe has a package DM780 that has PSK software and well as other 
 modes. There's nothing really wrong with DM780; I'm just accustomed to using 
 FLDIGI. 
 
 73, 
 Barry 
 K3NDM 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Michael Rudolph mrudo...@therabbi.com 
 To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:00:25 PM 
 Subject: [Elecraft] Advice on software 
 
 I want to operate psk with the kx2 using a computer. 
 
 What is good psk software? 
 Also, what software can I use to turn my computer into a panadapter? If I 
 always have my computer, is there any reason to purchase the panadapter 
 accessory? 
 
 Michael Rudolph 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

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No kidding, I was thinking of suggesting this as well...  
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On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 21:01 -0700, David Gilbert wrote:
 I have on three different occasions requested of Elecraft that such a 
 feature be added to the K3.  Two of those requests never received a 
 response, while the third got a we'll see if anyone in engineering is 
 interested reply (apparently nobody was).
 
 Personally, I think this is a significantly missed opportunity to expand 
 the usefulness of diversity reception in the K3, especially now that the 
 new synths retain phase lock when changing frequency. If even only one 
 receiver in the K3 had the ability to time shift the audio signal, it 
 would work.  The K3 already has separate volume controls and already has 
 the ability to mix the two channels.  With two antennas separated 
 horizontally (i.e., two verticals a suitable distance apart), the phase 
 could be adjusted to boost a desired signal by roughly 3db or null an 
 undesired signal (noise or QRM) by 20 to 30 db or more (depending upon 
 how stable the signals were). Directional antennas are not needed at all.
 
 I also think it would be interesting, and maybe useful, to use two 
 antennas separated vertically, such as a couple of dipoles or yagis on a 
 tower.  Adjusting the phase could potentially drop a severe notch on an 
 interfering signal IN THE SAME DIRECTION as a desired signal.
 
 Phase is preserved in the down conversion to audio so all this could be 
 accomplished at the audio level.  I'm not saying that's the best place 
 to do it, but worst case I'm going to learn enough software code to do 
 it myself using the sound card of my computer since nobody else seems 
 interested.
 
 73,
 Dave   AB7E
 
 
 On 5/26/2015 5:45 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
  It would be interesting to see if that feature could be added.
 
 
 
   Original message 
  From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
  Date: 05/26/2015  8:26 PM  (GMT-05:00)
  To: Tony McRae a...@ttecs.com.au, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction
 
  Tony,
 
  You are looking at information about how to compensate two unequal
  receivers for true diversity reception - two orthogonally opposed
  antennas receiving the same signal.
  The K3 makes that easy with a sub-receiver that is identical with the
  main receiver and they are phase locked together in diversity. When
  placed in diversity mode (using two antennas hopefully having different
  polarity or directional characteristics), you will hear enhancement of
  the reception from whichever antenna is receiving the best signal - you
  have each receiver in each of your ears, and the human brain will
  respond to the best signal.  No phase adjustment is necessary.
 
  OTOH, if you are looking to reduce the noise of your plasma TV and
  routers, that is another form of reception that could (but not
  necessarily) be related to diversity.  You would want to use a
  directional antenna aimed at the noise source to feed one receiver while
  being able to adjust the amplitude and phase of that noise signal to
  cancel out the noise source.
  It is possible that you could use the K3 with subRX to do that, the AF
  and RF gain controls will do the amplitude part of the process and if
  you provide an external mechanism for changing the phase of the two
  antennas, you may be successful.  The easiest phase change is simply to
  flip the noise receive antenna terminals which should achieve a 180
  degree phase shift, but the actual phase shift will depend on several
  other factors such as the length of the antenna feedlines and the
  physical placement of the antennas (which control the arrival time of
  the noise signal at the antennas).
 
  So, yes, it is possible that with suitable antennas placed properly, the
  K3 with subRX *could* serve as a noise cancelling system, but it was not
  designed for that purpose, it was designed to counter propagation
  effects such as fading due to polarization.
 
  73,
  Don W3FPR
 
  On 5/25/2015 9:00 PM, Tony McRae wrote:
  I have been watching some youtube clips showing how by adjusting the phase 
  and amplitude of two received signals on a diversity receiver local noise 
  can be reduced by more than 20db.
  This would be particularly useful to me as I have the dirtiest plasma TV 
  on one side of me and a gaggle of cheap ADSL routers on the other. When 
  pointed at them with my yagi the noise floor on 20-15m is over S7.
 
  The equipment used in the clip was the ANAN 100D SDR.
  Is anyone aware if this technique is possible using the K3 dual receivers?
  I have not found any place in the manual where it is 

Re: [Elecraft] Rear Panel mic connection

[David Cole]

Same here, using the rear connector, and all is well...
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On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 05:36 -0700, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
 I don't even know whether the front connector works.
 
 On 5/19/2015 2:21 AM, Frank via Elecraft wrote:
  I recall Eric mentioning an advantage to connecting the headset boom mic to 
  the rear panel headphone and mic connectors.  The manufacturer of the 
  headset advised this was not preferable due to the potential for ground 
  loops on the mic side.  Has anyone had any experience with ground loops on 
  the mic from headsets connected to the rear jacks?  I'd love to use them to 
  free up the front of the rig.
 
  Frank KG6N
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - Full Power Keydown

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Are you saying you run JT65 at 500 Watts?
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On Sat, 2015-04-25 at 05:06 -0400, Michael Eberle wrote:
 I have run JT65 at full power without any problems, but I manually set 
 the minimum fan speed to 6 during transmit.  May not be necessary but I 
 don't like for things to get any warmer than necessary.
 
 Mike
 KI0HA
 
 On 4/25/2015 3:33 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
  How long can you run the full 500 Watts for (duration)?
 
  I know the Manual states Duty Cycle at 500 Watts 10 minutes key down / 5 
  minutes standby
  For those running Full power Keydown modes (SSTV, ETC) what has been your 
  experience?
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 transmit monitoring with SVGA

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That would be the best option, I hope that is the way it works!
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On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 12:35 +0300, Vic Rosenthal wrote:
 Or, better yet, allow you to see the regular display on one screen and the 
 sensor data on the other?
 
 Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO
 
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  Will the new feature also display meters and waveform on the big screen?
  73 David G3WGN M6O
  
  
  
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Re: [Elecraft] New P3 meters

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Yeah right...  Never going to happen...  Hams are without a doubt the
cheapest people I have ever met.

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On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 18:32 -0500, Kevin Stover wrote:
 I do get a chuckle out of these product announcements from Elecrafdt on the 
 reflector.
 
 THE Design Engineer - The new Widget 2000 should have this and this and this 
 or it's a waste of time. 
 
 The Average Ham Radio Buyer -  The Wideget 2000 BETTER have this or this or 
 this feature and be FREE, or I'll stamp my feet and hold my breath, or go on 
 EHam.net and leave a bad review, till it does!
 
 The product hasn't even been released yet. A little perspective is in order I 
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[Elecraft] Got external Monitor running on P3

[David Cole]

Hi,
I got the external monitor running on the P3, was easy...  Cost all of
100 bucks for the monitor, and as far as I can tell it works great, a 7
inch device.

See:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201226395031?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

It is claiming to be 1920 by 1080!  It is sharp, and was almost plug and
play.  

I had to replace the supplied EU wall wart with a 12 V, center +, 1 A,
US, wall wart, but after that all was well...  Seems to not generate any
RFI either...  

The colors are a bit different from the P3, and it is not quite as
sharp, but I am happy...  Now if I could only get the DECODED CW, etc,
off the K3, and showing ONLY on the SVGA device...  :)

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[Elecraft] Ney Synths...

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Hi Elecraft,
Thanks!  They are in and worked first time!  Nice instructions!  Glad
you did away with the washer between the old synth board, and the
mount!  :)
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Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon?

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Wayne,
That is one of the reasons I purchased a K3, that exact commitment,
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On Tue, 2015-03-31 at 20:08 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 We don't comment on prospective product ideas. But the new KSYN3A synth 
 module is--as you noted--an example of our commitment to the K3.
 
 73,
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 On Mar 31, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote:
 
  Going out on a limb: The K4 will appear as upgrades to the K3. The new 
  synth is an example.
  
  Trying for Wyley E. Coyote levels of limb walking:
  
  A program interface to the auxbus for custom station automation.
  
  Digital audio interface between the K3 and Mac/Linux/Windows.
  
  More equipment for backpack stations. e.g. power, antennas, etc.
  
  
  If Elecraft makes a car radio, and I would definitely interested in 
  replacing my IC-706, I hope it follows the lead of car entertainment radios 
  going back to the 1940s and has single button tuning for at least 5 
  presets. If it is like the more modern radios, it may have both push and 
  hold tuning for each button. A serious attack on driver distraction with 
  ham mobile radios would be a very valuable feature.
  
  Another nice feature for a mobile rig is automatic tuning for screwdriver 
  antennas.
  
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Re: [Elecraft] CW

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Hello Bob,
I had the same feelings when I bought the K3.  This rig was clearly
designed by a CW person...  This is by far the best rig I have ever
owned...
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On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 03:31 +, Bob Gibson via Elecraft wrote:
  This is the most amazing radio I have ever used on CW. I have had a lot of 
 Yaesu rigs from the 9000 on down, and this is by far the best on CW.. I did 
 not want to try this radio out because of its size with a mind set of large 
 rig's. But I bought it in Feb along with the P-3 and what a radio!! Hat's off 
 to the Elecraft guy's!   73s Bob W5RG
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[Elecraft] Trade for K3 stuff...

[David Cole]

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Astronomical Objective: 12.5 inch diameter mirror
F/6, full thickness, (2.13 inches)
Fully aluminized, and fully parabolized
Pyrex, research grade mirror for sale or trade. 

This mirror was tested at better than 1/8 wave accuracy, (P-P wavefront)
A tested value of .972 for Sterehl rating. 

All testing was performed by Optical Wave Labs in California. The
original test certificate will be included with the mirror when
purchased.  The mirror was ground by Optical Wave Labs as well.

This is a high quality mirror, that has been finished, tested, and
aluminized by a professionals in the United States. If you are going to
build a 12.5 inch scope, this is the mirror to use!

To purchase this mirror, it would cost you between $1000, and $1500,
even locating a full thickness Pyrex blank is hard to do anymore.
Asking $800.00. 

I am no longer interested in Astronomy, (I was going to build a scope
out of this mirror), and the mirror is now up for sale, or trade, for
radio gear. 

I will consider any like value trade for this mirror. The mirror is in
mint condition, not near mint, but mint condition...Unused,
unmounted, and still packed in the original shipping box from the lab
that ground it. What have you to trade for it? 

I will pay shipping/Insurance for the mirror within CONUS, you pay
shipping/insurance within CONUS for your item.

Looking for amps, rigs, test equipment, etc... What have you?  Feel free
to offer up any sort of like valued ham radio equipment, or pretty much
anything electronic, or science related.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DATA A vs AFSK A

[David Cole]

LSMFT had several other meanings...  :)
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On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 17:47 -0700, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
 ... and it should be LSB because everyone knows: Low Space Means Fine 
 Teletype.
 
 On 3/17/2015 4:00 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 
  Note: in my comment below Mark-85 Hz should be MARK+85 Hz as AFSK A
  (LSB) reverses the sense of the tones - Mark is the lower of the two
  audio tones but the higher of the RF frequencies.
 
  73,
 
 ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
  On 2015-03-17 6:48 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
  Hmmm ... this may be the first time Fred Cady's book has failed me.  I
  understand now what each mode does.  What's still not clear is why
  would I choose one over the other?  Operator/User manuals tend not to
  answer that question, they are understandably focused on exactly how to
  operate the equipment.
 
  I'm very sure that, when I first set up RTTY, I went to AFSK A because I
  knew what audio frequency shift keying was and I didn't know what DATA A
  was.  It all worked, so I never changed it or tried out the other
  choice.  I guess if AFSK A is LSB and works with MMTTY in its default
  configuration, then DATA A is USB and I'd have to reverse the tones in
  MMTTY.
 
  I'll leave it as I've been using it, it works so it obviously doesn't
  need fixing.  I was just curious.  I have my pitch set at 915 Hz, I
  can't hear 2,125 Hz.  Thanks Joe and Mike.
 
  73,
 
  Fred K6DGW
  - Northern California Contest Club
  - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
  - www.cqp.org
 
  On 3/17/2015 10:07 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 
  On 2015-03-17 12:41 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Can you 'splain the difference between AFSK and DATA A?
 
  AFSK A and DATA A are both audio modes.  AFSK A uses LSB
  and FC is set to MARK - 85 Hz (the center of the two RTTY
  Tones).  DATA A is USB and FC is set to 1500 Hz (the center
  of the transmit audio passband [200 - 2800 Hz]).
 
  AFSK A also allows use of the AFSK transmit filter (a tight
  filter around the Mark/Space tones to eliminate hum/pops/etc.)
  and the use of the Dual Tone filter on receive.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shift and Width encoders sluggish

[David Cole]

I am having the same issue with the PWR, Width, and Shift encoders as
well...
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On Tue, 2015-03-10 at 22:23 -0600, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
 They tend to be not very responsive.  The power and speed encoders work 
 much smoother.
 
 Could they be dirty or is this possibly a known issue?
 

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