Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV
It sounds like someone with lots of spare time on their hands and some fancy calibration equipment could make some money by having people send them their KVCXO3-1s and record calibration data. The best part about this business is that if you really care about your accuracy, you will have to have this done every year (or more often) because as the crystals age, their resonant frequency can change. --Vernon On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: I'm suggesting that the only way we can handle this at present is to allow users to generate their own data. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Possible solution for missing RS-232 port on laptops
Whether or not the serial ports on the dock are real serial ports is still up for debate. It depends on the kind of dock you are using. The dock may just be a multi-function USB device that includes a serial port and a video adapter. But it may also be a pass-through for many kinds of devices. If it is the former, you would be better off (financially) to just get a USB serial adapter. And how real it is depends on what you will be using it for -- for me, Linux kernel hacking requires a real serial port if you want to use it as a serial console. Or for using it as the input PPS on a GPS disciplined time server, a USB serial port won't get you the accuracy you think you are getting. So beware --Vernon On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Ron - PE8E pe8e.elecr...@xs4all.nl wrote: There has been a lot of talk about the absence of real serial ports on more recent laptops. Here is something I recently discovered and want to share with you all. Maybe you can benefit ... Not to lang ago I received a HP Compaq 6710b laptop. On first sight there was no RS-232 output. With the laptop came a dockingstation and on that one I found 1 serial, 1 parallel, 1 DVI and 1 SVGA port (and several others). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Bug in firmware found?
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Gary Hinson wrote: ... While you're at it, the VFO Lock function doesn't block QSYs using the band button, or sent from the logging program, or using the XIT, and perhaps other ways too. It would be nice if it actually locked the VFO frequency, please Wayne. This *may* account for the occasional small TX frequency jumps of some K3 DXpeditioners. [Some might be deliberately moving escape When using one receiver and REV to scan a split pileup while VFOA is LOCKed on the DX frequency, it's possible for VFOA to change slightly if the Main knob is still spinning when you release REV. Just tested this race condition and found it to be real. Using either REV or A/B you can change the 'locked' VFO if the right knob is spinning when you are switching VFO places. Another way to get around the lock is to use a memory recall. Not sure if that would be classified as a bug or not, since memories are for both VFOs and it would be weird to change only one VFO. I suppose that could be a setting. That would classify it as a feature. Honestly neither of these is terribly important to me. But being a software engineer for my day job, whenever the firmware is discussed, it piques my interest. I was about to report that the LOCK button didn't LOCK all the controls on my radio (like the lock button on most any other device). But then I read in the manual, that it was just a VFO lock. It really surprised me when I had the LOCK engaged and I bumped the PWR knob and my power setting changed. But that was by design. I did find the concept counter-intuitive. (and by intuition, I really mean experience.) --Vernon N7OH Since I added the KRX3 and use dual RXs in split pileups I haven't noticed this as much. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Bug-in-firmware-found-tp6240623p6241882.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft K3] Frequency Calibration using Sidetone
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:08 PM, David Robertson dar...@comcast.net wrote: I see many references using the CW sidetone as a calibration tool for the K3's frequency readout. I fully understand the logic behind using the sidetone but this brings up a question. What is the reference for the sidetone frequency within the K3? Is in the K3's master oscillator? If you are in fact changing the master oscillator frequency to match K3's readout to an actual frequency, and if the sidetone frequency is derived from the same master oscillator aren't you defeating the purpose of your calibration. It seems logical to me to a method of calibration that your reference is not derived from the same oscillator you are trying to calibrate. I am not sure what is used to generate the sidetone, but even if it is the K3 master oscillator, you are probably safe to do it this way. This is because the master oscillator runs at 48.39 MHz, while your sidetone is at 400-900Hz. We are talking a 4-5 orders of magnitude difference here. That means that if you change the frequency by 100Hz (mine is off by 80 or so), you would only change the sidetone frequency by 80*10e-4 Hz, which is imperceptible. But that doesn't take into account the fact that the sidetone is all local. Your receiver generates the sidetone (of your choosing), which is N-Hz away from actual chosen pitch, where N is the frequency difference between the carrier of the signal and your tuned frequency. Hitting the SPOT button mixes in the chosen sidetone, which then creates nulls and peaks that are easy to discern even for the tonal impaired. But since BOTH tones are generated by your K3, it makes sense that they would change at the same rate, thus negating any changes from the master oscillator. Having said the above here is the method I use. On usb mode I tune the K3 to the reference standard you are using ( Any AM station such as WWV or any station of a known frequency). I set the readout to the exact known frequency of that station. I note the pitch of the sound I hear from the station (the tone from WWV or CHU works best) . Next I switch to LSB and note the pitch of the sound. If they are identical then the K3 is calibrated. If the pitch changes then you have to configure the master oscillator's frequency so the pitch between USB and LSB match. I relies the above method requires a good ability to note slight changes in pitch. Some of us do not posses that ability and must use a different method. For those that do, this method works. This is a method I have not heard of, so thank you for sharing it. --Vernon N7OH 73 Dave KD1NA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] PTT ??
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote: Question: does the PTT IN RCA/Phono connection merely operate a relay or switch in the K3? That is, by shorting the connection (closing the switch) I am operating a relay switch that stays closed as long as my switch (short) is closed. I rigged up a momentary push button switch to short out the connection. That works great for me. I also have an electronic key that I built that uses a transistor to 'close' the circuit. Either way works. I don't know if internally it is a switch or relay or what, but it is awfully quiet to be a relay. Also, I would like to know if it is normal (do other guys do this?) to use multiple PTT switches wired in parallel probably using some parallel connection phono jack thingy. I have at least two switches (one a foot switch to use with a mic and the other a externally controlled switch for my Signalink USB interface). Maybe a third switch for a hand held switch for another mic that I might use at times. No probably not three, but at least two different switches. It would certainly be possible to wire up several switches in parallel. If they are mechanical switches, then it won't hurt them at all. If they are electronic switches, you might want to add in some circuitry to protect from a short (depending on what kind of output stage we are talking about). --Vernon N7OH 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 not recieving [ End of Thread]
Yes, the original instigator did find the solution: PEBKAC - problem exists between keyboard and chair. Anyway, thank you for all your help. For whatever reason, as far as I can tell, my radio has the same settings as it did before, but it works. I think I just didn't know when or where to look for a decent signal. Remember that this IS my first HF radio and I have zero experience on HF. So, thanks for all your help and being my remote elmers. Vernon N7OH On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft e...@elecraft.com wrote: Let's end this thread. It is way off track. If the original poster replies regarding his query, that is OK. Eric Elecraft List Moderator, from time to time.. (Sorry for the delay moderating this thread, I am on the road.) www.elecraft.com _..._ On Mar 11, 2011, at 9:41 AM, John Lemay j...@carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Mike, you're right, the posting has been hijacked ! I'd be interested to know from the originator of the query whether an answer has been found to the K3 reception issue. John G4ZTR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 not recieving
Don, It looks like you and at least one other person have said that I need more radials. I will have to look into that. Thank you for your suggestion. --Vernon N7OH On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Vernon, If your K3 is receiving static, I would tend to blame your problem on the antenna rather than the K3. However, there is a way to check the K3. Beg, borrow or purchase an Elecraft XG2 signal generator. That will give you a tool to produce a 50 uV signal (S-9) and also a tool to do MDS measurements on your K3. I do suspect your antenna. Verticals do not work well in all locations - good performance depends on your soil conditions, and 25 foot radials are likely not long enough. For a good ground screen with the 43 foot radial, you need at least 32 43 foot radial wires for it to be effective. A vertical works great right on the edge of salt water, but inland locations vary depending on the soil conditions. I have always been disappointed with verticals. Actually, I suggest a more simplistic approach - use horizontal dipoles. Use the 43 foot vertical as a mast to hold up the center of a dipole. Get a 1:1 balun and construct a dipole for 40 and 20 meters. 2 radiator wires 33 feet long and two 16 foot long these two antennas can run on a single feedline.. Run the center up to the top of your 43 foot mast and hang the ends of the dipole wires as high as you can using whatever supports are available. You want an angle between the wires to be at an angle greater than 45 degrees. The two wires for 40 meters (the 33 ft long ones) should be in the same vertical plane, and the two wires for 20 meters should be at right angles to the 40 meter wires to keep interaction to a minimum. You mentioned 10 meters. Propagation conditions may be a problem too. The higher HF bands do not have many signals during the hours of darkness, and 10 meters may not have many signals during the day. 20 meters during the daylight hours is usually reliable and 40 meters at night will typically have good signals. During periods of greater sunspot activity, the higher frequency bands will show more activity, but during the recent sunspot minimum, there were times when 20 meters was barely usable, but conditions are improving. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/8/2011 1:06 AM, Vernon Mauery wrote: At the risk of exposing what a n00b I am when it comes to HF, I really need some help. I recently (last month) purchased a K3. First HF radio I have owned. I got my license 2 years ago and have spent most of the time since playing with VHF. I have been trying to teach myself CW and decided that it was time to step into the HF waters. I studied, ogled, and dreamed of my ideal HF transceiver. I finally found the K3 and having looked (at least a cursory glance) at all the others, I was sold. I saved my pennies and purchased. I also got myself a 43' untuned vertical antenna, balun, and radial wires. My setup: K3/100 has 100 feet of low loss 400 coax out to the 43 foot vertical on the hill in my back yard. It has 8 25 foot radials and a 4:1 balun. The K3 has the KATU3, KPA3, KTCXO3-1, KFL3A-400, and default 2.8KHz filters. I assembled it and did followed the calibration instructions as well as I could. I think I got everything, but obviously I missed something. Or maybe I just need an elmer to tell me what to do. I cannot seem to find any signals that make the S meter go above a 3 or 4. I have the RF gain turned up a fair ways (mostly to the top), and I can hear static. As I tune up some of the bands on SSB, I can hear a tone that changes higher in pitch as I tune up in frequency. I have tried listening for CW, but I am hearing nothing as I scan through the bands. I had a 10m horizontal dipole taped to my wall for a while until I found time to run the coax out to the back yard. I had hoped that since it was resonant on the 10m band, maybe it would be able to pick up something, but it was no better (or worse) than my vertical. As far as I can tell, the radio seems to transmit. I can see the power meter moving and the SWR meter moving. The ATU seems to be able to find acceptable settings on most of the bands with the vertical. But I can't hear them. You can't work them if you can't hear them, right? This is a desperate plea for help. Is it the radio or me? Please have pity on the n00b and walk me through my first HF contact. --Vernon N7OH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help
Re: [Elecraft] K3 not recieving
Yes. I can see the S-meter go from 3-4 down with static down to nothing with quieter static. My best guess is that I am not trying the right times at the right places. Thanks to everyone for the help. --Vernon N7OH On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Ross Primrose N4RP n...@aiko.com wrote: Does the received noise decrease when you disconnect the antenna? 73, Ross N4RP On 3/8/2011 1:06 AM, Vernon Mauery wrote: At the risk of exposing what a n00b I am when it comes to HF, I really need some help. I recently (last month) purchased a K3. First HF radio I have owned. I got my license 2 years ago and have spent most of the time since playing with VHF. I have been trying to teach myself CW and decided that it was time to step into the HF waters. I studied, ogled, and dreamed of my ideal HF transceiver. I finally found the K3 and having looked (at least a cursory glance) at all the others, I was sold. I saved my pennies and purchased. I also got myself a 43' untuned vertical antenna, balun, and radial wires. My setup: K3/100 has 100 feet of low loss 400 coax out to the 43 foot vertical on the hill in my back yard. It has 8 25 foot radials and a 4:1 balun. The K3 has the KATU3, KPA3, KTCXO3-1, KFL3A-400, and default 2.8KHz filters. I assembled it and did followed the calibration instructions as well as I could. I think I got everything, but obviously I missed something. Or maybe I just need an elmer to tell me what to do. I cannot seem to find any signals that make the S meter go above a 3 or 4. I have the RF gain turned up a fair ways (mostly to the top), and I can hear static. As I tune up some of the bands on SSB, I can hear a tone that changes higher in pitch as I tune up in frequency. I have tried listening for CW, but I am hearing nothing as I scan through the bands. I had a 10m horizontal dipole taped to my wall for a while until I found time to run the coax out to the back yard. I had hoped that since it was resonant on the 10m band, maybe it would be able to pick up something, but it was no better (or worse) than my vertical. As far as I can tell, the radio seems to transmit. I can see the power meter moving and the SWR meter moving. The ATU seems to be able to find acceptable settings on most of the bands with the vertical. But I can't hear them. You can't work them if you can't hear them, right? This is a desperate plea for help. Is it the radio or me? Please have pity on the n00b and walk me through my first HF contact. --Vernon N7OH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.” __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 not recieving
At the risk of exposing what a n00b I am when it comes to HF, I really need some help. I recently (last month) purchased a K3. First HF radio I have owned. I got my license 2 years ago and have spent most of the time since playing with VHF. I have been trying to teach myself CW and decided that it was time to step into the HF waters. I studied, ogled, and dreamed of my ideal HF transceiver. I finally found the K3 and having looked (at least a cursory glance) at all the others, I was sold. I saved my pennies and purchased. I also got myself a 43' untuned vertical antenna, balun, and radial wires. My setup: K3/100 has 100 feet of low loss 400 coax out to the 43 foot vertical on the hill in my back yard. It has 8 25 foot radials and a 4:1 balun. The K3 has the KATU3, KPA3, KTCXO3-1, KFL3A-400, and default 2.8KHz filters. I assembled it and did followed the calibration instructions as well as I could. I think I got everything, but obviously I missed something. Or maybe I just need an elmer to tell me what to do. I cannot seem to find any signals that make the S meter go above a 3 or 4. I have the RF gain turned up a fair ways (mostly to the top), and I can hear static. As I tune up some of the bands on SSB, I can hear a tone that changes higher in pitch as I tune up in frequency. I have tried listening for CW, but I am hearing nothing as I scan through the bands. I had a 10m horizontal dipole taped to my wall for a while until I found time to run the coax out to the back yard. I had hoped that since it was resonant on the 10m band, maybe it would be able to pick up something, but it was no better (or worse) than my vertical. As far as I can tell, the radio seems to transmit. I can see the power meter moving and the SWR meter moving. The ATU seems to be able to find acceptable settings on most of the bands with the vertical. But I can't hear them. You can't work them if you can't hear them, right? This is a desperate plea for help. Is it the radio or me? Please have pity on the n00b and walk me through my first HF contact. --Vernon N7OH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Linux/Mac K3 utility updates?
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us wrote: * On 2011 06 Mar 18:02 -0600, NZ0T wrote: B***h, b***h, b***h! ;) 73 Bill NZ0T It's OK everyone - I know this guy. Taken in the humor intended, Bill. :-) For the record, I received a private reply from David, W4SMT, who is the author in question. Understandably, he has had real life stand in the way of coding and other pursuits. I know how that happens. In my experience, this is exactly where the open source community can do the best. I have had to step back on a project before, only to see others pick it up with vigor in my absence. Being a Linux kernel hacker myself, I have some strong opinions about how software should be done. :) Free all the bits!!! --Vernon N7OH 73, de Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K144XV and FM Filters
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Stan Gibbs s...@ajaxsoftware.com wrote: I can't seem to find a clear answer in the archives or manuals, so I'll ask my question here: Are two FM filters required to listen to both the input and output of a 2m repeater simultaneously with the main and sub RXs? From what I gather, I would say yes. Since the sub RX is independent from the main RX, it will need its own filter. I think I heard somewhere that it was pretty common practice to fill the filters on main and sub RXs with the same setup. --Vernon N7OH Thanks, - 73, Stan - KR7C -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K144XV-and-FM-Filters-tp6088444p6088444.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 serial to serial
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'm not so sure... My FT-1000 MP Cat connection has a male DB9 connection, and the K3 has a female connection. If the MP's convention is standard for Yaesu rigs, then the FT2000 cord will not work. Serial cord connections on PC's are male. The K3 requires a cord with male on one end and female on the other. The MP requires a double female cord. That fact made all the cords I had used with my MP directly unusable with the K3. If the FT2000 CAT connection on the back of the rig has pins, the cord will not work for the K3 as is. An inexpensive male serial gender changer on the rig end will convert a double female. Oh, but be careful with gender changers because with serial connections, because not all serial cables are created equal; often, a double-female-ended cable will be a null modem cable (with RX/TX wires crossed), but not always. You can test your cable with a continuity tester to make sure that the pins on each end are all the same pin. The K3 needs a standard cable, not a null modem cable. See http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/cable/RS-232.html for more info. --Vernon N7OH I found the gender changers inconvenient with cord replacement (K3 travels a bit with me), and eventually bought new cords. 73, Guy. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:49 AM, n...@widomaker.com wrote: It should work fine. I replace my TS570 with a K3 and used the same serial cable. ...bill nr4c Quoting Adriano adriano.pera...@uol.com.br: Anyone knows if the Serial to Serial cable from FT-2000 would work w/ the k3? Tnx again PY2ADR K3 4795 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
