Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-26 Thread Phil Kane
I wish to thank all the folks here who offered helpful comments on the
problem.  Yes, I did all the checking of ports and drivers and
connections -  I've been dealing with those sort of things for years so
I've been there, but with no resolution this time.  Neil did relate his
solution to the problem and I will respectfully continue with him
off-line as to the details.

Again, thanks for the assist.--

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-26 Thread Neil Zampella

Phil,

I've got my K2/100  running under Win10 using DXLabs Commander.    I
could never get WSJT-X running the K2 directly using the built in Hamlib
settings, or with Omnirig or Flrig.    It works fine, and I was able
to create custom controls for Commander to adjust the power if I'm
running remotely using VNC.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/24/2019 11:02 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

Problem (described below) with the WSJTX program (the "home" of FT8)
trying to access K2.  I didn't get an answer on the WSJTX Yahoo group so
I'll try here.

Configuration:

Dell Laptop PC with iMic and RigBlaster Plus connected to Elecraft K2.
Both  the Elecraft and RigBlaster serial ports connected to the computer
are 9-pin "RS-232" wired ports and all drivers are current.

With PC running Windows 7, both MixW3 and WSJTX  2.0.0 using identical
CAT control and audio settings ran without problems.

After upgrading the computer to Win 10 with no other changes, MixW3 runs
properly but WSJTX 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 did not.  The error messages from
Hamlib are:

(Tune) "IO error while opening connection to rig"
(Test CAT)  "Communication timed out while opening connection to rig"

In additions, the frequency readout on the WSJTX UI has reverted to all
zeros.

Are there "permission" settings in Win 10 that didn't exist in Win 7?

Has anyone experienced this with Win 10 and found a solution?

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX

Interesting.

Using Windows 10 Pro I have one radio {model/brand} if I plug it in, set 
the application to communicate with the port as defined in Device 
Manager, all is well.  I can then turn the radio off and then back on, 
changing no cables or ports, and find the same application will not 
communicate with the radio.  Then I look at Device Manager and find that 
the port number has changed.  I change the port number in the 
application and all is welluntil next time.


And with another radio {Elecraft K3S}, I do not find that changing the 
physical USB connection on the computer will cause the communication 
port number to change.  Hence the port assignment is sticky.


This says to me all USB drivers are not created equal.   And likewise, 
I've experienced no issues being the result of Windows 10 updates.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 4/25/2019 4:14 PM, Michael Blake via Elecraft wrote:

My Window10 computer has 4 USB C ports and a 7 port USB3 hub.  I have 5 
different Elecraft USB Serial ports connected and they always receive the same 
com port number regardless of which USB port or HUB port they are plugged into. 
 K3s, KAT500, KPA500, KX3, SG3 and other non Elecraft devices.

I have never had them change as a result of a Windows upgrade.

73 - Mike - K9JRI





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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-25 Thread Michael Blake via Elecraft
My Window10 computer has 4 USB C ports and a 7 port USB3 hub.  I have 5 
different Elecraft USB Serial ports connected and they always receive the same 
com port number regardless of which USB port or HUB port they are plugged into. 
 K3s, KAT500, KPA500, KX3, SG3 and other non Elecraft devices.

I have never had them change as a result of a Windows upgrade.

73 - Mike - K9JRI






> On Apr 25, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Windows will usually assign the same port number IF you plug it into the same 
> USB port.
> 
> You can go into Properties for each device and change the port number - COM1 
> and COM2 are usually reserved for serial ports on the motherboard, even if no 
> RS-232 ports are present on the board.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 4/25/2019 4:14 PM, David Haines wrote:
>> Thanks for the confirmation.  That's exactly consistent with my experience.  
>> It's just too bad it has to be that way.
>> david, KC1DNY
>> n 4/25/2019 3:58 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>>> Sometimes you can disconnect the cable and then plug it back in and Windows 
>>> will recognize the device. In other cases you will need to power down the 
>>> device and back up in order for Windows to recognize the device.
>>> 
>>> Some assignments are sticky and will remain, while other cases it will be 
>>> necessary to assign a port number every time.  That is controlled in the 
>>> device driver code and the way Windows handles port assignments.
>>> 
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Jim KO5V  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>> 
>>>> I use Device Manager, and I've done what you described. However, it 
>>>> doesn't always seem to work. Sometimes the device ignores the COM port 
>>>> selected in its program and D.M, sometimes the settings won't stay 
>>>> selected after I close the program. Do I need to use Device Manager each 
>>>> time I start a device?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. 73, Jim  KO5V
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
>>>>> Sent: Apr 25, 2019 11:26 AM
>>>>> To: Jim KO5V 
>>>>> Cc: Elecraft List 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error
>>>>> 
>>>>> With Windows, DEVICE MANAGER is your friend.  Having it open and on 
>>>>> screen, you can plug in devices or unplug devices and see, in real time, 
>>>>> the port they are using.   This will then be the port to assign in an 
>>>>> application.  Also check the parameters of the port to assure the device 
>>>>> can communicate with the port.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Jim KO5V  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have similar problems with my Win7 64 bit machines. It's tough to 
>>>>>> configure any additional COM ports, everything seems to eventually 
>>>>>> default to COM 3, and I can't make any changes "stick". Using only one 
>>>>>> "COM port"device, Sometimes just unplugging, and re-plugging that 
>>>>>> device, or stopping and restarting the desired program will make the 
>>>>>> computer see the connected device; sometimes,not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I asked my brother-in-law, a Windows systems guy, what he would do, and 
>>>>>> his reply was that he basically does what I've been doing, but then 
>>>>>> explained about some "advanced stuff" that he would help me with, but 
>>>>>> that I shouldn't try them myself...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Make sure there's nothing else using the COM port, and see if the 
>>>>>> program will work (if you haven't already done that).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good Luck. 73, Jim KO5V
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Windows will usually assign the same port number IF you plug it into the 
same USB port.


You can go into Properties for each device and change the port number - 
COM1 and COM2 are usually reserved for serial ports on the motherboard, 
even if no RS-232 ports are present on the board.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/25/2019 4:14 PM, David Haines wrote:
Thanks for the confirmation.  That's exactly consistent with my 
experience.  It's just too bad it has to be that way.


david, KC1DNY


n 4/25/2019 3:58 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
Sometimes you can disconnect the cable and then plug it back in and 
Windows will recognize the device. In other cases you will need to 
power down the device and back up in order for Windows to recognize 
the device.


Some assignments are sticky and will remain, while other cases it will 
be necessary to assign a port number every time.  That is controlled 
in the device driver code and the way Windows handles port assignments.


Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 25, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Jim KO5V  wrote:

Hi Bob,

I use Device Manager, and I've done what you described. However, it 
doesn't always seem to work. Sometimes the device ignores the COM 
port selected in its program and D.M, sometimes the settings won't 
stay selected after I close the program. Do I need to use Device 
Manager each time I start a device?


Thanks. 73, Jim  KO5V


-Original Message-

From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
Sent: Apr 25, 2019 11:26 AM
To: Jim KO5V 
Cc: Elecraft List 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

With Windows, DEVICE MANAGER is your friend.  Having it open and on 
screen, you can plug in devices or unplug devices and see, in real 
time, the port they are using.   This will then be the port to 
assign in an application.  Also check the parameters of the port to 
assure the device can communicate with the port.


Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 25, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Jim KO5V  wrote:

I have similar problems with my Win7 64 bit machines. It's tough to 
configure any additional COM ports, everything seems to eventually 
default to COM 3, and I can't make any changes "stick". Using only 
one "COM port"device, Sometimes just unplugging, and re-plugging 
that device, or stopping and restarting the desired program will 
make the computer see the connected device; sometimes,not.


I asked my brother-in-law, a Windows systems guy, what he would do, 
and his reply was that he basically does what I've been doing, but 
then explained about some "advanced stuff" that he would help me 
with, but that I shouldn't try them myself...


Make sure there's nothing else using the COM port, and see if the 
program will work (if you haven't already done that).


Good Luck. 73, Jim KO5V
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-25 Thread David Haines
Thanks for the confirmation.  That's exactly consistent with my 
experience.  It's just too bad it has to be that way.


david, KC1DNY


n 4/25/2019 3:58 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

Sometimes you can disconnect the cable and then plug it back in and Windows 
will recognize the device. In other cases you will need to power down the 
device and back up in order for Windows to recognize the device.

Some assignments are sticky and will remain, while other cases it will be 
necessary to assign a port number every time.  That is controlled in the device 
driver code and the way Windows handles port assignments.

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 25, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Jim KO5V  wrote:

Hi Bob,

I use Device Manager, and I've done what you described. However, it doesn't 
always seem to work. Sometimes the device ignores the COM port selected in its 
program and D.M, sometimes the settings won't stay selected after I close the 
program. Do I need to use Device Manager each time I start a device?

Thanks. 73, Jim  KO5V


-Original Message-

From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
Sent: Apr 25, 2019 11:26 AM
To: Jim KO5V 
Cc: Elecraft List 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

With Windows, DEVICE MANAGER is your friend.  Having it open and on screen, you 
can plug in devices or unplug devices and see, in real time, the port they are 
using.   This will then be the port to assign in an application.  Also check 
the parameters of the port to assure the device can communicate with the port.

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 25, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Jim KO5V  wrote:

I have similar problems with my Win7 64 bit machines. It's tough to configure any additional COM 
ports, everything seems to eventually default to COM 3, and I can't make any changes 
"stick". Using only one "COM port"device, Sometimes just unplugging, and 
re-plugging that device, or stopping and restarting the desired program will make the computer see 
the connected device; sometimes,not.

I asked my brother-in-law, a Windows systems guy, what he would do, and his reply was 
that he basically does what I've been doing, but then explained about some "advanced 
stuff" that he would help me with, but that I shouldn't try them myself...

Make sure there's nothing else using the COM port, and see if the program will 
work (if you haven't already done that).

Good Luck. 73, Jim KO5V
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sometimes you can disconnect the cable and then plug it back in and Windows 
will recognize the device. In other cases you will need to power down the 
device and back up in order for Windows to recognize the device. 

Some assignments are sticky and will remain, while other cases it will be 
necessary to assign a port number every time.  That is controlled in the device 
driver code and the way Windows handles port assignments. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Jim KO5V  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> I use Device Manager, and I've done what you described. However, it doesn't 
> always seem to work. Sometimes the device ignores the COM port selected in 
> its program and D.M, sometimes the settings won't stay selected after I close 
> the program. Do I need to use Device Manager each time I start a device?
> 
> Thanks. 73, Jim  KO5V
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
>> Sent: Apr 25, 2019 11:26 AM
>> To: Jim KO5V 
>> Cc: Elecraft List 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error
>> 
>> With Windows, DEVICE MANAGER is your friend.  Having it open and on screen, 
>> you can plug in devices or unplug devices and see, in real time, the port 
>> they are using.   This will then be the port to assign in an application.  
>> Also check the parameters of the port to assure the device can communicate 
>> with the port. 
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Jim KO5V  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have similar problems with my Win7 64 bit machines. It's tough to 
>>> configure any additional COM ports, everything seems to eventually default 
>>> to COM 3, and I can't make any changes "stick". Using only one "COM 
>>> port"device, Sometimes just unplugging, and re-plugging that device, or 
>>> stopping and restarting the desired program will make the computer see the 
>>> connected device; sometimes,not. 
>>> 
>>> I asked my brother-in-law, a Windows systems guy, what he would do, and his 
>>> reply was that he basically does what I've been doing, but then explained 
>>> about some "advanced stuff" that he would help me with, but that I 
>>> shouldn't try them myself...
>>> 
>>> Make sure there's nothing else using the COM port, and see if the program 
>>> will work (if you haven't already done that).
>>> 
>>> Good Luck. 73, Jim KO5V
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-25 Thread Jim KO5V
Hi Bob,

I use Device Manager, and I've done what you described. However, it doesn't 
always seem to work. Sometimes the device ignores the COM port selected in its 
program and D.M, sometimes the settings won't stay selected after I close the 
program. Do I need to use Device Manager each time I start a device?

Thanks. 73, Jim  KO5V


-Original Message-
>From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
>Sent: Apr 25, 2019 11:26 AM
>To: Jim KO5V 
>Cc: Elecraft List 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error
>
>With Windows, DEVICE MANAGER is your friend.  Having it open and on screen, 
>you can plug in devices or unplug devices and see, in real time, the port they 
>are using.   This will then be the port to assign in an application.  Also 
>check the parameters of the port to assure the device can communicate with the 
>port. 
>
>Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 25, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Jim KO5V  wrote:
>> 
>> I have similar problems with my Win7 64 bit machines. It's tough to 
>> configure any additional COM ports, everything seems to eventually default 
>> to COM 3, and I can't make any changes "stick". Using only one "COM 
>> port"device, Sometimes just unplugging, and re-plugging that device, or 
>> stopping and restarting the desired program will make the computer see the 
>> connected device; sometimes,not. 
>> 
>> I asked my brother-in-law, a Windows systems guy, what he would do, and his 
>> reply was that he basically does what I've been doing, but then explained 
>> about some "advanced stuff" that he would help me with, but that I shouldn't 
>> try them myself...
>> 
>> Make sure there's nothing else using the COM port, and see if the program 
>> will work (if you haven't already done that).
>> 
>> Good Luck. 73, Jim KO5V
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
With Windows, DEVICE MANAGER is your friend.  Having it open and on screen, you 
can plug in devices or unplug devices and see, in real time, the port they are 
using.   This will then be the port to assign in an application.  Also check 
the parameters of the port to assure the device can communicate with the port. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Jim KO5V  wrote:
> 
> I have similar problems with my Win7 64 bit machines. It's tough to configure 
> any additional COM ports, everything seems to eventually default to COM 3, 
> and I can't make any changes "stick". Using only one "COM port"device, 
> Sometimes just unplugging, and re-plugging that device, or stopping and 
> restarting the desired program will make the computer see the connected 
> device; sometimes,not. 
> 
> I asked my brother-in-law, a Windows systems guy, what he would do, and his 
> reply was that he basically does what I've been doing, but then explained 
> about some "advanced stuff" that he would help me with, but that I shouldn't 
> try them myself...
> 
> Make sure there's nothing else using the COM port, and see if the program 
> will work (if you haven't already done that).
> 
> Good Luck. 73, Jim KO5V
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-25 Thread Jim KO5V
I have similar problems with my Win7 64 bit machines. It's tough to configure 
any additional COM ports, everything seems to eventually default to COM 3, and 
I can't make any changes "stick". Using only one "COM port"device, Sometimes 
just unplugging, and re-plugging that device, or stopping and restarting the 
desired program will make the computer see the connected device; sometimes,not. 

I asked my brother-in-law, a Windows systems guy, what he would do, and his 
reply was that he basically does what I've been doing, but then explained about 
some "advanced stuff" that he would help me with, but that I shouldn't try them 
myself...

Make sure there's nothing else using the COM port, and see if the program will 
work (if you haven't already done that).

Good Luck. 73, Jim KO5V
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-25 Thread David Haines
I'm having similar problems after going from Windows 7 to Windows 10.    
I'm using a KX3 on FT8 with WSJT-X, cheap $10 Sabrent USB Soundcard, 
nothing in the 9-pin RS-232 wired port of a Dell Inspiron 3670.  It all 
works well most of the time, but ... .


Occasionally I  get one of the two error messages you show.

My conjecture is that is has something to do with the COM ports, or 
shortage thereof.  The KX3 utility lists only one, COM3, when I try to 
download to the KX3.  It appears the COM3 port was taken over by another 
peripheral, maybe a printer?  Sometimes a reboot of the PC fixes it, but 
it would be nice to have a permanent solution.


Can you communicate to the K2 using the K2 Utility?

73 de david, KC1DNY, in the Maine woods.

elecraft KX3 s/n 8651

On 4/24/2019 11:02 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

Problem (described below) with the WSJTX program (the "home" of FT8)
trying to access K2.  I didn't get an answer on the WSJTX Yahoo group so
I'll try here.

Configuration:

Dell Laptop PC with iMic and RigBlaster Plus connected to Elecraft K2.
Both  the Elecraft and RigBlaster serial ports connected to the computer
are 9-pin "RS-232" wired ports and all drivers are current.

With PC running Windows 7, both MixW3 and WSJTX  2.0.0 using identical
CAT control and audio settings ran without problems.

After upgrading the computer to Win 10 with no other changes, MixW3 runs
properly but WSJTX 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 did not.  The error messages from
Hamlib are:

(Tune) "IO error while opening connection to rig"
(Test CAT)  "Communication timed out while opening connection to rig"

In additions, the frequency readout on the WSJTX UI has reverted to all
zeros.

Are there "permission" settings in Win 10 that didn't exist in Win 7?

Has anyone experienced this with Win 10 and found a solution?

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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[Elecraft] [K2] Rig Control Error

2019-04-24 Thread Phil Kane


Problem (described below) with the WSJTX program (the "home" of FT8)
trying to access K2.  I didn't get an answer on the WSJTX Yahoo group so
I'll try here.

Configuration:

Dell Laptop PC with iMic and RigBlaster Plus connected to Elecraft K2.
Both  the Elecraft and RigBlaster serial ports connected to the computer
are 9-pin "RS-232" wired ports and all drivers are current.

With PC running Windows 7, both MixW3 and WSJTX  2.0.0 using identical
CAT control and audio settings ran without problems.

After upgrading the computer to Win 10 with no other changes, MixW3 runs
properly but WSJTX 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 did not.  The error messages from
Hamlib are:

(Tune) "IO error while opening connection to rig"
(Test CAT)  "Communication timed out while opening connection to rig"

In additions, the frequency readout on the WSJTX UI has reverted to all
zeros.

Are there "permission" settings in Win 10 that didn't exist in Win 7?

Has anyone experienced this with Win 10 and found a solution?

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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