Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sub RX S-meter cal

2009-10-07 Thread Ken K3IU
I also noticed this the other day when I was messing about with the RF 
Gain Calibration and then wanted to recheck the S-meter calibration. 
Thought I probably had a button-push sequence messed up, but I wasn't 
able to finish the job for the SubRx.

73,
Ken K3IU

Mike Harris wrote:
 G'day,

 Has anyone managed to use the proceedure in the handbook to 
 calibrater the sub-rx s-meter?

 The metering is switched over to the sub-rx when in b SET mode. 
 However, as soon at you go into CONFIG the s-meter reverts to the 
 main rx making callibration impossible.  This can be checked by 
 rotating the main rx rf gain counter clockwise, the s-meter reading 
 changes.

 Unless, that is, I'm doing something terribly wrong.

 I never bother with the sub-rx s-meter in normal operation but the 
 implication is that it is adjustable.

 Regards,

 Mike VP8NO 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sub RX S-meter cal

2009-10-07 Thread N1JM

There is an error in the manual according to Wayne and you cannot calibrate
the sub rx S-meter.

John N1JM



Mike Harris wrote:
 
 G'day,
 
 Has anyone managed to use the proceedure in the handbook to 
 calibrater the sub-rx s-meter?
 
 The metering is switched over to the sub-rx when in b SET mode. 
 However, as soon at you go into CONFIG the s-meter reverts to the 
 main rx making callibration impossible.  This can be checked by 
 rotating the main rx rf gain counter clockwise, the s-meter reading 
 changes.
 
 Unless, that is, I'm doing something terribly wrong.
 
 I never bother with the sub-rx s-meter in normal operation but the 
 implication is that it is adjustable.
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike VP8NO 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sub RX S-meter cal

2009-10-07 Thread Ken K3IU
The S-meter Cal procedure in the manual worked up until about v.3.15 or 
so. Now I am pretty sure that it was NOT separately adjusting the SubRx 
S-meter, but I never checked, so I'm not sure. It doesn't really matter now.

I have determined that, at least on my K3 (#202) running v3.41 et al, 
after running the RF Gain Calibration procedure and setting the MAIN Rx 
S-meter, the Sub Rx S-meter is spot on. It actually follows the 
adjustment for the Main Rx S-meter, i.e., set Main Rx at an extreme and 
the Sub Rx shows the exact same extreme.

So... it looks to me like there is no reason to have a separate 
adjustment for the SubRx S-meter. I'm sure the manual will catch up.

73,
Ken K3IU
~~
N1JM wrote:
 There is an error in the manual according to Wayne and you cannot calibrate
 the sub rx S-meter.

 John N1JM



 Mike Harris wrote:
   
 G'day,

 Has anyone managed to use the proceedure in the handbook to 
 calibrater the sub-rx s-meter?

 The metering is switched over to the sub-rx when in b SET mode. 
 However, as soon at you go into CONFIG the s-meter reverts to the 
 main rx making callibration impossible.  This can be checked by 
 rotating the main rx rf gain counter clockwise, the s-meter reading 
 changes.

 Unless, that is, I'm doing something terribly wrong.

 I never bother with the sub-rx s-meter in normal operation but the 
 implication is that it is adjustable.

 Regards,

 Mike VP8NO 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sub RX S-meter cal

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Harris
G'day,

My results are:

Source - XG1, RX gain calibration per the utility routine:

Subsequently:

Main RX only, pre amp OFF  - 50uV (S9), 1uV (S2)

Sub-RX ON therefore splitter loss:

Main RX S8  S1
Sub-RX  S7  S0

No big deal but not identical.

As a matter of interest, the S-meter on the main RX had been set up 
a year ago or more as above.  When I checked it before doing the RX 
gain calibration I discovered that the 1uV and 50uV figures were S5 
 S9.  Little wonder I thought the local noise level had been 
creeping up!  Maybe after playing with the AGC parameters a re-cal 
of the S-meter is required, maybe not, but something altered it.  I 
assume that given the 50uV S9 setting was correct then it isn't 
associated with the XG1.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO


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To: N1JM johnn...@gmail.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sub RX S-meter cal


 The S-meter Cal procedure in the manual worked up until about 
 v.3.15 or
 so. Now I am pretty sure that it was NOT separately adjusting the 
 SubRx
 S-meter, but I never checked, so I'm not sure. It doesn't really 
 matter now.

 I have determined that, at least on my K3 (#202) running v3.41 et 
 al,
 after running the RF Gain Calibration procedure and setting the 
 MAIN Rx
 S-meter, the Sub Rx S-meter is spot on. It actually follows the
 adjustment for the Main Rx S-meter, i.e., set Main Rx at an 
 extreme and
 the Sub Rx shows the exact same extreme.

 So... it looks to me like there is no reason to have a separate
 adjustment for the SubRx S-meter. I'm sure the manual will catch 
 up.

 73,
 Ken K3IU

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sub RX S-meter cal

2009-10-07 Thread Wayne Burdick
Mike,

Now that you've done rf gain cal, you'll still need to adjust SMTR OF  
 SC so that you get S9 with 50 uV and S2-3 with 1 uV. RF gain cal  
linearizes the dsp's internal representation, while SMTR OF  SC set  
the actual meter indication.

Try the factory defaults first.

73,
Wayne


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On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Mike Harris mike.har...@cwimail.fk  
wrote:

 G'day,

 My results are:

 Source - XG1, RX gain calibration per the utility routine:

 Subsequently:

 Main RX only, pre amp OFF  - 50uV (S9), 1uV (S2)

 Sub-RX ON therefore splitter loss:

 Main RX S8  S1
 Sub-RX  S7  S0

 No big deal but not identical.

 As a matter of interest, the S-meter on the main RX had been set up
 a year ago or more as above.  When I checked it before doing the RX
 gain calibration I discovered that the 1uV and 50uV figures were S5
  S9.  Little wonder I thought the local noise level had been
 creeping up!  Maybe after playing with the AGC parameters a re-cal
 of the S-meter is required, maybe not, but something altered it.  I
 assume that given the 50uV S9 setting was correct then it isn't
 associated with the XG1.

 Regards,

 Mike VP8NO


 - Original Message -
 From: Ken K3IU kenk...@cox.net
 To: N1JM johnn...@gmail.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sub RX S-meter cal


 The S-meter Cal procedure in the manual worked up until about
 v.3.15 or
 so. Now I am pretty sure that it was NOT separately adjusting the
 SubRx
 S-meter, but I never checked, so I'm not sure. It doesn't really
 matter now.

 I have determined that, at least on my K3 (#202) running v3.41 et
 al,
 after running the RF Gain Calibration procedure and setting the
 MAIN Rx
 S-meter, the Sub Rx S-meter is spot on. It actually follows the
 adjustment for the Main Rx S-meter, i.e., set Main Rx at an
 extreme and
 the Sub Rx shows the exact same extreme.

 So... it looks to me like there is no reason to have a separate
 adjustment for the SubRx S-meter. I'm sure the manual will catch
 up.

 73,
 Ken K3IU

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[Elecraft] [K3] Sub RX S-meter cal

2009-10-06 Thread Mike Harris
G'day,

Has anyone managed to use the proceedure in the handbook to 
calibrater the sub-rx s-meter?

The metering is switched over to the sub-rx when in b SET mode. 
However, as soon at you go into CONFIG the s-meter reverts to the 
main rx making callibration impossible.  This can be checked by 
rotating the main rx rf gain counter clockwise, the s-meter reading 
changes.

Unless, that is, I'm doing something terribly wrong.

I never bother with the sub-rx s-meter in normal operation but the 
implication is that it is adjustable.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO 

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