Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Key out (was CW sideband)
ps: the first thing that drives me crazy about the K3? The fact that the radio (and the amp) key when I'm playing with my paddles and just wanna hear my own CW. Me too. I guess it must be done this way for people who send the key first to their amp or antenna switch, and then get their PTT back to the radio from it? Like from an extra contact pair on a relay that bypasses a mast-mount preamp. People hate smoking those. I also would like to be able to turn it off, so that Key Out occurs only when VOX or PTT is already asserted. Yet another menu option for the bottom of the software wish list! Also, I'm away from my K3 now but I could swear that it works at full QSK even if you don't have QSK enabled. That's pretty odd. 73 and thanks for listening, Carl WS7L K3 #486, 1 year old and owner is still smiling. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Key out (was CW sideband)
If you don't want power output when you hit the key, turn off the VOX while in CW mode - the rig responds with PTT in the message area. To get power out with VOX off, you must press the XMIT button or active the PTT (with a footswitch, for example) while keying the paddles. Depending on what you mean, this is also the answer to the full QSK statement. VOX on means that pressing the key activates the transmitter. QSK on means the RX is active between code elements. Here is the truth table for VOX and QSK: VOX QSK Off (message = PTT) Off (message = SEMI) XMIT button or PTT to transmit Off On (message = FULL) Same as Off - Off On (message = VOX)Off Key = transmit; no RX between elements On On Key = transmit; RX between elements 73 -- Brian -- K1LI K1 270 -- K2 2070 -- K3 2465 On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Carl Clawson carlclaw...@verizon.netwrote: ps: the first thing that drives me crazy about the K3? The fact that the radio (and the amp) key when I'm playing with my paddles and just wanna hear my own CW. Me too. I guess it must be done this way for people who send the key first to their amp or antenna switch, and then get their PTT back to the radio from it? Like from an extra contact pair on a relay that bypasses a mast-mount preamp. People hate smoking those. I also would like to be able to turn it off, so that Key Out occurs only when VOX or PTT is already asserted. Yet another menu option for the bottom of the software wish list! Also, I'm away from my K3 now but I could swear that it works at full QSK even if you don't have QSK enabled. That's pretty odd. 73 and thanks for listening, Carl WS7L K3 #486, 1 year old and owner is still smiling. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Key out (was CW sideband)
That isn't the problem. Even if you have VOX off, hitting the paddles activates the T/R relay line to the amplifier. It does so even if you put the K3 into TEST mode. There's no power output, but the amp relay (and anything else that may be activated by PTT) engages. 73, Dave AB7E Brian Machesney wrote: If you don't want power output when you hit the key, turn off the VOX while in CW mode - the rig responds with PTT in the message area. To get power out with VOX off, you must press the XMIT button or active the PTT (with a footswitch, for example) while keying the paddles. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Key out (was CW sideband)
I guess it must be done this way for people who send the key first to their amp or antenna switch, and then get their PTT back to the radio from it? Like from an extra contact pair on a relay that bypasses a mast-mount preamp. It is Key Out - not amplifier PTT. The difference is subtle but simple. However, if you don't want your amplifier keyed, put the amp in standby. Also, I'm away from my K3 now but I could swear that it works at full QSK even if you don't have QSK enabled. That's right - it does. Again, the signal is Key Out not Amplifier PTT. Key out should ALWAYS follow the straight key (or internal keyer) input regardless of whether the K3 is producing power. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Carl Clawson Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:36 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Key out (was CW sideband) ps: the first thing that drives me crazy about the K3? The fact that the radio (and the amp) key when I'm playing with my paddles and just wanna hear my own CW. Me too. I guess it must be done this way for people who send the key first to their amp or antenna switch, and then get their PTT back to the radio from it? Like from an extra contact pair on a relay that bypasses a mast-mount preamp. People hate smoking those. I also would like to be able to turn it off, so that Key Out occurs only when VOX or PTT is already asserted. Yet another menu option for the bottom of the software wish list! Also, I'm away from my K3 now but I could swear that it works at full QSK even if you don't have QSK enabled. That's pretty odd. 73 and thanks for listening, Carl WS7L K3 #486, 1 year old and owner is still smiling. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Key out (was CW sideband)
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: That's right - it does. Again, the signal is Key Out not Amplifier PTT. Key out should ALWAYS follow the straight key (or internal keyer) input regardless of whether the K3 is producing power. Actually, it follows the logical OR of XMIT button and key. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
