Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-19 Thread Rick Bates (WA6NHC)
It’s also a growing, dynamic therefore unstable collection of code.  Wait for 
it to mature. 

Rick WA6NHC

Smell Czech correction happen

> On Dec 19, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Neil Zampella  wrote:
> 
> FWIW ... easier said than done, there's a lot more to it than there is to CW, 
> RTTY, or even PSK.
> 
> Neil, KN3ILZ
> 
>> On 12/19/2018 9:44 AM, Andy McMullin wrote:
>> I’d vote for that idea too!
>> 
>> Regards
>> Andy, G8TQH
>> 
>>> On 19 Dec 2018, at 14:36, Bob N3MNT  wrote:
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>>> Maybe add WSJT-X capability to PX3
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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-19 Thread Neil Zampella
FWIW ... easier said than done, there's a lot more to it than there is 
to CW, RTTY, or even PSK.


Neil, KN3ILZ

On 12/19/2018 9:44 AM, Andy McMullin wrote:

I’d vote for that idea too!

Regards
Andy, G8TQH


On 19 Dec 2018, at 14:36, Bob N3MNT  wrote:

Maybe add WSJT-X capability to PX3



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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-19 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Wayne,

Some means to GPS-lock the frequency, ala the QRPlabs QLG1:

https://www.qrp-labs.com/qlg1.html

This would make running a number of really-low-power long-transmit-time
digital modes like WSPR and QRSS more practical.

Also, built-in Free-DV support would be really nifty, for all the
K-line.  This is starting to show up in certain competitive radios.

Thanks for asking.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE


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Subject: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the
"eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear
From: Wayne Burdick 
Date: Tue, December 18, 2018 1:41 pm
To: Elecraft Reflector , "k...@yahoogroups.com"


Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult
field conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field
Day, of course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well
beyond this, conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new
technology, even recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.

Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable
transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading
to the present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly
compact, multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of
the AX1 and its accessories.

No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us
about your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best?
Where could things have been improved? For example, when you were
clinging to a tree limb using an inverted vertical last winter, could
you still hear signals above the blizzard? On that ironman run, did you
need an antenna that deploys with one hand? Maybe an integrated
speech-to-FT8 converter? And when you embellish your tales beside a
campfire, should your detachable keyer paddle double as a bottle opener?

A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter.
All of them will help inform and inspire the next generation of
Elecraft's outdoor product line.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-19 Thread Andy McMullin
I’d vote for that idea too!

Regards 
Andy, G8TQH 

> On 19 Dec 2018, at 14:36, Bob N3MNT  wrote:
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> Maybe add WSJT-X capability to PX3
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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-19 Thread Bob N3MNT
Maybe add WSJT-X capability to PX3



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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Neil Zampella
It went QRT in April when it returned to Hawaii.  If they send it 
out again, it'll probably run 2.0 :)


Neil, KN3ILZ

On 12/18/2018 5:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:

How about KH6JF/MM?
Is KH6JF/MM running 2.0 or 1.9 ?



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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread kevinr
Make sure the on board computer has either nano or vim, gcc, and make.  
That way you can modify the code while you walk.  A CW to editor 
function would be helpful.


   73,

   Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 12/18/18 5:53 PM, Keith Onishi wrote:

A small box, which consists of a Linux computer with WSJT-X and Bluetooth 
capable to communicate with smartphone applications, attachable to the left 
side of KX3 without connection cables would be nice. This helps digi-mode field 
operation.
I have experienced some frequency drift during FT8 and other JT type digi-mode 
operation. Weak signal with frequency drift on field operation may be less 
decidable. I guess some internal design change would reduce the frequency drift.

73 de JH3SIF

Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi
Sent from iPad

2018/12/19 3:41、Wayne Burdick  のメッセージ:


Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult field 
conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field Day, of 
course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well beyond this, 
conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new technology, even 
recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.

Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable 
transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading to the 
present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly compact, 
multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of the AX1 and its 
accessories.

No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us about 
your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best? Where could 
things have been improved? For example, when you were clinging to a tree limb 
using an inverted vertical last winter, could you still hear signals above the 
blizzard? On that ironman run, did you need an antenna that deploys with one 
hand? Maybe an integrated speech-to-FT8 converter? And when you embellish your 
tales beside a campfire, should your detachable keyer paddle double as a bottle 
opener?

A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter. All of 
them will help inform and inspire the next generation of Elecraft's outdoor 
product line.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Gwen Patton
Keith, you should investigate the new DRAWS hat for the Raspberry Pi,
currently on offer from Northwest Digital Radio. Right now it's still in
the early days of release, but it's getting better and better, and they
plan on a complete micro workstation for digital operations. It has lots of
the features you would need.

It's not quite to the point of just plugging it into the left side of a
KX3, but that's probably something some enterprising engineer could cobble
up as an adapter, or a 3d printer project. I've got one of the boards, I've
just been waiting for the developer types to find all the flaws and figure
out all the additional bits necessary to make it truly complete before I
dive into it.

Besides, I'm in the middle of relearning my code, so I can use CW again! I
was a CW operator back in 2000, but I let it slide and haven't used it in a
long time. So I need to relearn it!

Here's the website. There's also a mailing list on groups.io if you need
more information.
http://nwdigitalradio.com/draws/

73,
Gwen NG3P

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 8:54 PM Keith Onishi  wrote:

> A small box, which consists of a Linux computer with WSJT-X and Bluetooth
> capable to communicate with smartphone applications, attachable to the left
> side of KX3 without connection cables would be nice. This helps digi-mode
> field operation.
> I have experienced some frequency drift during FT8 and other JT type
> digi-mode operation. Weak signal with frequency drift on field operation
> may be less decidable. I guess some internal design change would reduce the
> frequency drift.
>
> 73 de JH3SIF
>
> Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi
> Sent from iPad
>
> 2018/12/19 3:41、Wayne Burdick  のメッセージ:
>
> > Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult
> field conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field
> Day, of course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well beyond
> this, conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new technology,
> even recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.
> >
> > Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable
> transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading to
> the present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly compact,
> multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of the AX1 and
> its accessories.
> >
> > No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us
> about your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best? Where
> could things have been improved? For example, when you were clinging to a
> tree limb using an inverted vertical last winter, could you still hear
> signals above the blizzard? On that ironman run, did you need an antenna
> that deploys with one hand? Maybe an integrated speech-to-FT8 converter?
> And when you embellish your tales beside a campfire, should your detachable
> keyer paddle double as a bottle opener?
> >
> > A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter.
> All of them will help inform and inspire the next generation of Elecraft's
> outdoor product line.
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Keith Onishi
A small box, which consists of a Linux computer with WSJT-X and Bluetooth 
capable to communicate with smartphone applications, attachable to the left 
side of KX3 without connection cables would be nice. This helps digi-mode field 
operation.
I have experienced some frequency drift during FT8 and other JT type digi-mode 
operation. Weak signal with frequency drift on field operation may be less 
decidable. I guess some internal design change would reduce the frequency drift.

73 de JH3SIF

Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi
Sent from iPad

2018/12/19 3:41、Wayne Burdick  のメッセージ:

> Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult field 
> conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field Day, of 
> course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well beyond this, 
> conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new technology, even 
> recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.
> 
> Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable 
> transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading to 
> the present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly compact, 
> multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of the AX1 and its 
> accessories.
> 
> No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us about 
> your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best? Where could 
> things have been improved? For example, when you were clinging to a tree limb 
> using an inverted vertical last winter, could you still hear signals above 
> the blizzard? On that ironman run, did you need an antenna that deploys with 
> one hand? Maybe an integrated speech-to-FT8 converter? And when you embellish 
> your tales beside a campfire, should your detachable keyer paddle double as a 
> bottle opener?
> 
> A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter. All of 
> them will help inform and inspire the next generation of Elecraft's outdoor 
> product line.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Fred Jensen
Well ... leaving Tucson AZ a few years ago, we were approaching TSA 
security when I discovered my Swiss Army Knife in a pocket of my cargo 
shorts.  I had a small carry-on so I unzipped my shaving kit and tucked 
it inside figuring it would be gone.  I wear braces on my legs and carry 
some scrap metal in my shoulder and am toast at TSA anyway.  I got the 
usual close inspection, but my knife made it through unscathed.  OTOH, 
that shaving kit, a Christmas present, contained a teeny little 
fingernail scissors and file in one of the side pockets that I didn't 
know about.  TSA found them and took nearly 30 min to decide what to do 
with them ... despite my telling them to just throw them away.


To really be useful, a Swiss Army knife can't really be glued to anything.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 12/18/2018 2:14 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Glue a Swiss Army Knife to the side and you have all of that and more. 
Of course, you can no longer carry it in the passenger cabin of an 
aircraft - TSA will confiscate the entire radio if it is glued.


73,
Don W3FPR



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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread hawley, charles j jr
I carried the smallest Swiss Army knife with the little 1 inch blade, scissors, 
and tooth pick onto a cruise out of Orlando once and they confiscated it. When 
we got on the boat, in our suite, there was a bar with a cork screw, knives and 
forks in the drawer, etc. Kind of ridiculous. But they gave it back to me after 
the cruise.


Chuck Hawley
 c-haw...@illinois.edu

 Amateur Radio, KE9UW
 aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" 
in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

Glue a Swiss Army Knife to the side and you have all of that and more.
Of course, you can no longer carry it in the passenger cabin of an
aircraft - TSA will confiscate the entire radio if it is glued.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2018 4:57 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> How about a small plastic “toothpick” imbedded in one paddle and a small 
> stainless “tweezer” in the other (ala Victorianox)?
>
> Sent from my iphone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Dec 18, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Thorpe, Jeffrey  wrote:
>>
>> Since the KXPD3 has two paddles, why not a bottle opener on one, and a can 
>> opener on the other?
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Glue a Swiss Army Knife to the side and you have all of that and more. 
Of course, you can no longer carry it in the passenger cabin of an 
aircraft - TSA will confiscate the entire radio if it is glued.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2018 4:57 PM, Nr4c wrote:

How about a small plastic “toothpick” imbedded in one paddle and a small 
stainless “tweezer” in the other (ala Victorianox)?

Sent from my iphone
...nr4c. bill



On Dec 18, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Thorpe, Jeffrey  wrote:

Since the KXPD3 has two paddles, why not a bottle opener on one, and a can 
opener on the other?


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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Geoff Allsup
Great story! Thanks!

geoff - W1OH 



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> On Dec 18, 2018, at 15:35, John Harper  wrote:
> 
> Not sure if you'll be interested in an older story from back when the KX1
> was new, but it saved my bacon (knee) once upon a time:
> 
> https://ae5x.blogspot.com/2018/12/rain-and-sprain-in-30m-telegraphic.html
> 
> John AE5X
> https://ae5x.blogspot.com
> 
>> Tell us about your operating adventures. And misadventures.
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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Bob N3MNT
How about KH6JF/MM? 
Is KH6JF/MM running 2.0 or 1.9 ?



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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Nr4c
How about a small plastic “toothpick” imbedded in one paddle and a small 
stainless “tweezer” in the other (ala Victorianox)?

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> On Dec 18, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Thorpe, Jeffrey  wrote:
> 
> Since the KXPD3 has two paddles, why not a bottle opener on one, and a can 
> opener on the other?
> 
> Jeff - KG7HDZ
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Jim Brown  wrote:
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>> How about KH6JF/MM?
>> 
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>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Thorpe, Jeffrey
Since the KXPD3 has two paddles, why not a bottle opener on one, and a can 
opener on the other?

Jeff - KG7HDZ

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> How about KH6JF/MM?
> 
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> 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread John Harper
Not sure if you'll be interested in an older story from back when the KX1
was new, but it saved my bacon (knee) once upon a time:

https://ae5x.blogspot.com/2018/12/rain-and-sprain-in-30m-telegraphic.html

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com

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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Jim Brown

How about KH6JF/MM?

https://ae5x.blogspot.com/2018/03/hf-voyager-ocean-going-drone-with-kx3.html

73, Jim K9YC

On 12/18/2018 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Tell us about your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best?



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[Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-18 Thread Wayne Burdick
Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult field 
conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field Day, of 
course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well beyond this, 
conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new technology, even 
recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.

Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable 
transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading to the 
present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly compact, 
multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of the AX1 and its 
accessories.

No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us about 
your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best? Where could 
things have been improved? For example, when you were clinging to a tree limb 
using an inverted vertical last winter, could you still hear signals above the 
blizzard? On that ironman run, did you need an antenna that deploys with one 
hand? Maybe an integrated speech-to-FT8 converter? And when you embellish your 
tales beside a campfire, should your detachable keyer paddle double as a bottle 
opener?

A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter. All of 
them will help inform and inspire the next generation of Elecraft's outdoor 
product line.

73,
Wayne
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