Re: [Elecraft] A Heartfelt Plea

2014-12-30 Thread Chris Hallinan
As usual, everyone has an opinion! ;)

I have been involved with Internet mail lists (many hams call 'em
reflectors) since before there was a world wide web.  Proper etiquette is
to top post like I have done, so it's easy to read the current reply.
Often, snipping a message content will lose important context that a
later reader might want to reference. Most mail lists (this one included)
are archived.

Just my humble $0.02.

73,

Chris
K1AY


On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, David Bondy G4NRT da...@g4nrt.com wrote:

 I know that I am new to this list but I'd like to make a plea from the
 heart (I will be posting the same plea on some other groups):

 Would list members please, please, please think about what they are doing
 when they quote an entire message (and sometimes many, many replies) when
 posting to the list.

 Sometimes there are quotes of quotes of quotes and the content is actually
 just one line!

 In the main, I read this list on my phone and I sometimes find it almost
 impossible sometimes to actually find the intended content!

 What's wrong with editing what you're going to quote - and perhaps using
 snip to show that you've done it?

 Thank you for reading this and I hope that it will have a positive effect.

 73

 David G4NRT



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Re: [Elecraft] A Heartfelt Plea

2014-12-30 Thread Alan Hawrylyshen

 On Dec 30, 2014, at 10:51, Chris Hallinan challi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As usual, everyone has an opinion! ;)
 
 […]  Proper etiquette is
 to top post like I have done, so it's easy to read the current reply.
 […]

As you rightly point out, everyone has an opinion. I think that the convention 
varies from community to community.
The Outlook and Exchange clan seems to like top-posting. The old USENET / Unix 
folks see to prefer bottom posting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

and for fun : https://www.google.com/search?q=top+posting+considered+harmful

Best advice here is to get guidance from the moderator and failing that - the 
community consensus. In either case, consistency is better than alternative - 
which I admit - I have done here. 

Since this is a meta discussion, I will refrain from responding further to 
limit list traffic. Private comments are welcome.

There is a certain amount of humor intended here.

Sincerely,
Alan
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M0WTH
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Re: [Elecraft] A Heartfelt Plea

2014-12-30 Thread Rick Hewett

On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Chris Hallinan wrote:

As usual, everyone has an opinion! ;)


Of course,


Proper etiquette is to top post


In my day, top posting was considered most impolite, while snipping and 
interspersing replies (to give just enough context while keeping the

messages as short as possible) was considered proper.


Most mail lists (this one included) are archived.


and, if messages are properly threaded, only the most minimal quoting 
should be required.



Just my humble $0.02.


and my tuppence. ;)

73, Rick 5Z4/M0LEP

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Re: [Elecraft] A Heartfelt Plea

2014-12-30 Thread John Harper
This topic has already been addressed by Elecraft:

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm

 

John AE5X

http://www.ae5x.com/blog

 

 

 

As you rightly point out, everyone has an opinion

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Re: [Elecraft] A Heartfelt Plea

2014-12-30 Thread Phil Wheeler

Hi, David -- and welcome to the list.

Generally I agree with your comment, though I'm 
sure I occasionally forget to edit as much as I 
should.  OTOH -- deleting too much can make the 
reply pretty hard to understand, so both extremes 
should be avoided.


The other thing is that these lists were never 
designed to be read on the limited screen of a 
smartphone -- and since I sometimes use mine to 
read the messages, I realize what a problem the 
limited real estate of those screens can cause. 
Still, I'd rather read here with my iPhone than 
post messages here with it's keyboard:-)


73, Phil W7OX

On 12/29/14 11:54 PM, David Bondy G4NRT wrote:

I know that I am new to this list but I’d like to make a plea from the heart (I 
will be posting the same plea on some other groups):

Would list members please, please, please think about what they are doing when 
they quote an entire message (and sometimes many, many replies) when posting to 
the list.

Sometimes there are quotes of quotes of quotes and the content is actually just 
one line!

In the main, I read this list on my phone and I sometimes find it almost 
impossible sometimes to actually find the intended content!

What’s wrong with editing what you’re going to quote - and perhaps using snip 
to show that you’ve done it?

Thank you for reading this and I hope that it will have a positive effect.

73

David G4NRT


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[Elecraft] A Heartfelt Plea

2014-12-29 Thread David Bondy G4NRT
I know that I am new to this list but I’d like to make a plea from the heart (I 
will be posting the same plea on some other groups):

Would list members please, please, please think about what they are doing when 
they quote an entire message (and sometimes many, many replies) when posting to 
the list.

Sometimes there are quotes of quotes of quotes and the content is actually just 
one line!

In the main, I read this list on my phone and I sometimes find it almost 
impossible sometimes to actually find the intended content!

What’s wrong with editing what you’re going to quote - and perhaps using snip 
to show that you’ve done it?

Thank you for reading this and I hope that it will have a positive effect.

73

David G4NRT



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